#pride anogie

[froggyrights]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have another question (8/30)

HiHi, today we are again diving into the evolution of another word: queer!

The word queer entered the English language around the 16th century, and initially meant "strange", "odd" or "eccentric". (This is a slightly unrelated sidenote; as someone whose dialect of English is Hiberno-English, the word queer is still very commonly used to still mean this, and has also evolved to the word "quare" which can be used in place of "really" or "very" to provide adverbial emphasis <- like if someone is "quare tall" they're so tall that you're kinda in a little disbelief about it. Anyway just thought this was a fun side note because I really had not realised this word was controversial for people until I was on the internet)

Anyway, onto the late 19th century, the word queer began to have the connotation of "sexual deviance", before then starting to be used specifically about the "sexual deviance" of "feminine men".

The first, or at least one of the first, recorded time that the word queer was used as a pejorative for gay was in a letter written by John Sholto Douglas, 9th Marquis of Queensberry, about his son's relationship with Oscar Wilde. This letter was read out in Wilde's trial in April 1895 (in which he was being tried for "gross indecency" or "homosexuality"), and in it Douglas refers to Wilde and other gay men at the time as "Snob Queers". It is believed that American newspapers picked up this phrase and began using it themselves, thus spreading the pejorative to the US's vocabulary.

"The Concise New Partridge Dictionary of Slang" (1937) defined the word queer as "Homosexual. Derogatory from the outside, not from within. US, 1914", which tells us both that by 1914 it was a common pejorative or insult for gay people, but also, that queer people were using the word to refer to themselves as well. Around this time, queer, fairy, trade and gay all signified distinct "categories" of homosexual men. Historian George Chauncey notes in his book ("Gay New York") that queer would've been the self-identifier of ""masculine"" gay men.

We can also assume that this is what was happening in the U.K. as well, as a letter held in the National Archives shows us (you can look up the letter in full, search the full name of the person and "My Dear Billy"). This letter was written by a man named Cyril Coeur de Leon to ‘My Dear Billy’ in 1934. Billy was the owner of "The Caravan Club", a ""disorderly house"" of ""male prostitutes"", and in it he writes "Just a note to say that I am very disappointed about you. I honestly thought you were queer, but different from the others, and I liked you very much […] I have only been queer since I came to London about two years ago, before then I knew nothing about it." This use of queer is arguably ahead of it's time, given that at this point queer was exclusively about gay men, whereas de Leon mentions he "still likes girls occasionally".

Over the years though, queer has evolved from the narrow definition of "gay man" to "gay men and lesbians" to "anyone not heterosexual" to "not heterosexual and/or not cisgender". And despite the fact that for the majority of the time that it has meant "gay" it has been used by the community, some people are still of the opinion that the word is "too offensive" to be used, but thankfully, this argument isn't as common as it was in the 90s and 00s, though still annoying persistent.

And as for my question, today I want to know firstly, if you use the word queer yourself? and secondly, what is your favourite word/way to refer to the queer community? (for example, "friend of dorothy" is funny to drop into conversation, and today I spoke to some who said they were "looking forward to meeting other *limp hand movement* at [pub name] tonight!")

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

I LOVE the word queer me and the queer are married and in love holding hands into the sunset forever 😍🥰

it's by far my favorite word to use to refer to the community but some other more specific words I like are dyke and in dutch the word 'pot' which has been (and still is) used as a derogatory term for lesbians but started being reclaimed in the 70s. I think it's so awesome I love it

[nonoqy]

I think pride is banned from florida bc desantis 😭😭💔💔💔💔

NO WHAT this is terrible 😭 ok they should go to la or new york or something like that then ☹️☹️

[dnfnoodles]

happy pride month 🌈

happy pride month anogie

[nervouswaltz]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have another question (8/30)

HiHi, today we are again diving into the evolution of another word: queer!

The word queer entered the English language around the 16th century, and initially meant "strange", "odd" or "eccentric". (This is a slightly unrelated sidenote; as someone whose dialect of English is Hiberno-English, the word queer is still very commonly used to still mean this, and has also evolved to the word "quare" which can be used in place of "really" or "very" to provide adverbial emphasis <- like if someone is "quare tall" they're so tall that you're kinda in a little disbelief about it. Anyway just thought this was a fun side note because I really had not realised this word was controversial for people until I was on the internet)

Anyway, onto the late 19th century, the word queer began to have the connotation of "sexual deviance", before then starting to be used specifically about the "sexual deviance" of "feminine men".

The first, or at least one of the first, recorded time that the word queer was used as a pejorative for gay was in a letter written by John Sholto Douglas, 9th Marquis of Queensberry, about his son's relationship with Oscar Wilde. This letter was read out in Wilde's trial in April 1895 (in which he was being tried for "gross indecency" or "homosexuality"), and in it Douglas refers to Wilde and other gay men at the time as "Snob Queers". It is believed that American newspapers picked up this phrase and began using it themselves, thus spreading the pejorative to the US's vocabulary.

"The Concise New Partridge Dictionary of Slang" (1937) defined the word queer as "Homosexual. Derogatory from the outside, not from within. US, 1914", which tells us both that by 1914 it was a common pejorative or insult for gay people, but also, that queer people were using the word to refer to themselves as well. Around this time, queer, fairy, trade and gay all signified distinct "categories" of homosexual men. Historian George Chauncey notes in his book ("Gay New York") that queer would've been the self-identifier of ""masculine"" gay men.

We can also assume that this is what was happening in the U.K. as well, as a letter held in the National Archives shows us (you can look up the letter in full, search the full name of the person and "My Dear Billy"). This letter was written by a man named Cyril Coeur de Leon to ‘My Dear Billy’ in 1934. Billy was the owner of "The Caravan Club", a ""disorderly house"" of ""male prostitutes"", and in it he writes "Just a note to say that I am very disappointed about you. I honestly thought you were queer, but different from the others, and I liked you very much […] I have only been queer since I came to London about two years ago, before then I knew nothing about it." This use of queer is arguably ahead of it's time, given that at this point queer was exclusively about gay men, whereas de Leon mentions he "still likes girls occasionally".

Over the years though, queer has evolved from the narrow definition of "gay man" to "gay men and lesbians" to "anyone not heterosexual" to "not heterosexual and/or not cisgender". And despite the fact that for the majority of the time that it has meant "gay" it has been used by the community, some people are still of the opinion that the word is "too offensive" to be used, but thankfully, this argument isn't as common as it was in the 90s and 00s, though still annoying persistent.

And as for my question, today I want to know firstly, if you use the word queer yourself? and secondly, what is your favourite word/way to refer to the queer community? (for example, "friend of dorothy" is funny to drop into conversation, and today I spoke to some who said they were "looking forward to meeting other *limp hand movement* at [pub name] tonight!")

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

hai anogie this is funny u sent this while i was doing my shot (happy tboy thursday) and i have like. a sorta complicated history with the word queer. i used to be a fucking annoying asshole “queer is a slur” person when i was like. 14 but that came from being chronically online and projecting my insecurities upon an entire community. which is rough!! but over time i’ve warmed to the term and use it interchangeably with gay to refer to myself. i still kinda have this belief that while to me, queer is something i’ve reclaimed, other people haven’t, so my general use of it is “if someone else expresses they’re cool with it, i’ll use it for them, but i don’t wanna overstep.” in the same vein, i prefer only ppl i know/trust to call me queer since i don’t know what context they’re using it in. same as my other queer friends jokingly calling me the f slur. it’s fine, since i know they’re not being cruel or homophobic.

also i do like Limp Wrist Community but i generally just call it the lgbt community i’m kinda basic that way. i do like seeing what other people have come up with it’s def a highlight for me :)

[minecraftdog]

The postman is a little late today, there were lots of deliveries to do this week for some reason (something about sending potatoes? The post office was very occupied, must have been a pretty important event). But your delivery is here now with a special rainbow edition bouquet, still as fresh as when I sent it, and don't forget the note either!

🌹🌹🏵️🏵️🌼🌼☘️🍀💠💠🪻🪻

You open the note and glitter falls out:

Happy Pride month!!!

Thank you so much anogie ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 and happy pride!!!!

gonna need to clean up the glitter for weeks but it's worth it..

[suenitos]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have another question (2/30)

It is well known that the first Pride in June 1970 took place one year after the Stonewall Riots in 1969, but do you know who organised it originally? Her name was Brenda Howard, and I think she is best described by the bright pink pin she always wore, which said "Bi, Poly, Switch - I know what I want." She was friends with many of the people involved in the original riot and first organised a one-month anniversary riot in July of 1969. Then, one year after Stonewall, she and a committee planned Gay Pride Week and the Christopher Street Liberation Day Parade. Because of this, she is often referred to as "The Mother of Pride" and her original idea eventually transformed into the New York Pride celebration we see today.

One of the committee members L. Craig Schoonmaker is responsible for coining the word "Pride" in this context, and said in 2015 “A lot of people were very repressed, they were conflicted internally, and didn’t know how to come out and be proud. That’s how the movement was most useful, because they thought, ‘Maybe I should be proud.’”

Though the parade started off with only a few people showing up at the set time of 2pm, by the end of the event they had thousands of people filling 20 blocks of the city. Today, New York Pride regularly exceeds 2 million people!

So my question today is: have you ever attended a Pride parade? And if so, was it like you expected?

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

this is really awesome anogie ^_^ i actually attended my FIRST pride parade a few months ago through my uni (crazy to think about) ! tbh... it wasn't as fun because i didnt have my friends there with me :( but i did really enjoy it and maybe i shouldve expected it but i felt really safe in that space :') even if it was complete strangers i had some interactions that i'm gonna think about for a long time. i bought some flags and it was just. really good and healing. i hope i can go to more pride events in the future and connect with more people and make friends etc.

[tinamybeloved]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have another question (2/30)

It is well known that the first Pride in June 1970 took place one year after the Stonewall Riots in 1969, but do you know who organised it originally? Her name was Brenda Howard, and I think she is best described by the bright pink pin she always wore, which said "Bi, Poly, Switch - I know what I want." She was friends with many of the people involved in the original riot and first organised a one-month anniversary riot in July of 1969. Then, one year after Stonewall, she and a committee planned Gay Pride Week and the Christopher Street Liberation Day Parade. Because of this, she is often referred to as "The Mother of Pride" and her original idea eventually transformed into the New York Pride celebration we see today.

One of the committee members L. Craig Schoonmaker is responsible for coining the word "Pride" in this context, and said in 2015 “A lot of people were very repressed, they were conflicted internally, and didn’t know how to come out and be proud. That’s how the movement was most useful, because they thought, ‘Maybe I should be proud.’”

Though the parade started off with only a few people showing up at the set time of 2pm, by the end of the event they had thousands of people filling 20 blocks of the city. Today, New York Pride regularly exceeds 2 million people!

So my question today is: have you ever attended a Pride parade? And if so, was it like you expected?

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

I have not attended a pride parade I’m not out to my family so it’s just a little unfortunate for me I would love to attend one in the future Ty 🌈 anogie

[dwter]

january 'dnfer' sixth u are a national hero 🫡💚💙

its hard, but its honest work. 💚💙

[froggyrights]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have another question (6/30)

Okay, today we are back with flags, this time of the gender variety.

Agender: Created by Salem X ("Ska") in 2014 (Tumblr user formerly known as Transrants), this flag consists of 7 horizontal stripes [black, grey, white, green, white, grey, black] The black and white represent the absence of gender (in different ways), the grey represents semi-genderless and the light green represents non-binary gender.

Bigender: There are actually quite a lot of widely used bigender flags,(like more than you think), largely due to the original flag creator being accused of transphobia (among other things). So I have picked the probably second most common [after the original]. This one was created by camp-MLM on tumblr in 2019 and it has 7 stripes [Blue, light blue, white, lilac, white, light pink, pink], and the colours dont actually have a set meaning, with the original poster giving an idea of meaning, but leaving the majority of it up to each persons own feelings with their experience basically.

Demiboy, Demigirl, and Deminonbianry: These flags were designed by the same person Salem X, who also happens to be the person who designed the Agender Flag. All three flags consist of 7 horizontal stripes [Grey, Light Grey, Blue(boy)/Pink(girl)/Yellow(nonbinary), White, Blue/Pink/Yellow, Light Grey, and Grey] The pops of colour in the middle are to represent the aspects of either masculinity/feminity/nonbinary(-inity?) experienced by demigender people, while the greys are to represent the partial connection to gender.

Genderfluid: This flag was created by JJ Poole in 2012, and they designed it to "encompass all gender identities". It has 5 horizontal stripes. [Pink(Femininity), White(all genders), Purple(interlinking/crossover of femininity and masculinity), Black(lack of gender(s)), Blue(masculinity)]. However, in 2021, LGBTA wiki user "FruitIndividual" designed an alternative flag, and it is rapidly catching on, so you might see this one instead, it consists of 9 horizontal WAVY stripes (meant to represent the fluidity of this gender) [Colours Pink, Light Pink, White, Lilac, Purple, Lilac, White, Light Blue, Blue]

Genderqueer: This flag was designed in 2011 by Marilyn Roxie. The flag has 3 horizontal stripes. [Lavender(androgyny/meshing of masc and fem), White(Neutral), Chartreuse(Outside the binary)]

Non-Binary: Kye Rowan created this flag in 2014 to be flown alongside the genderqueer flag (NOT replace it). This flag has 4 horizontal stripes. [Yellow (Genders outside the binary), White (All/many genders), Purple (Genders which are a mix of masc and fem) and Black (Lack of gender)]

Transgender: Monica Helms designed this flag in 1999, and she said that the idea came to her early one morning; "When you wake up, and you're still sort of groggy and everything but you're starting to think, and your mind is starting to fill with images - that's when it came to me" and also called it "divine intervention". She brought the first trans flag to the 2000 Phoenix Pride Parade, and it is now in the possession of the Smithsonian. The flag consists of 5 horizontal stripes, [Blue, Pink, White, Pink, Blue], the pink and blue stand for girls and boys while the white represents thouse who are transitioning, intersex people and people who feel like they have no/neutral gender. A quote of hers i love about the design is "The pattern is such that no matter which way you fly it, it is always correct, signifying us finding correctness in our lives"

So, since we talked about gender pride flags today, im going to ask a slightly personal question (but it is vague on purpose, share as much or as little as you want), but please describe your gender WITHOUT using any traditional words, so for example, personally i would describe my gender as an out of body experience, like im witnessing my gender from below me in a hospital bed while i float aimlessly near the ceiling. <- have fun with it, use whatever comes to mind first, anything but traditional gender words please!

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

Ooooh I love this one I love seeing people describe their gender!

For me I think it's like being in a bedroom, and it's dark, and there's these two muffled voices coming from behind the wall, just muffled enough so you can't understand what they're saying. Like being a child and hearing your parents still talk downstairs. Sometimes you can make out one sentence, but never more than a few words. Something like that at least hahaha

[froggyrights]

That's okay! Don't feel any pressure, you really don't have to answer them, and if you do, you don't need to feel any worries about ""quality"", I'm not a teacher marking you! :)

Seriously though, you do whatever you feel comfortable with, it's all good! (if you want me to stop sending them though, I will? I don't want to be annoying lmao (but i am absolutely fine to keep sending them even if you never answer them, I'm only copy and pasting them from my original ask tbf)) <-🌈 🎉

Aww that's really sweet 😭💞💞 please don't stop sending them I love reading them they're super cool!!!! I am determined to answer at least one one of these days I am determined now. 💪

I'm glad you know I'm not purposely ignoring them or something though I love them !

[nervouswaltz]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have another question (7/30)

Hello hello, today we are going to take a dive into the word "Gay".

The word gay dates back all the way to the 12th century, and comes from the Old French word "Gai" meaning "full of joy or mirth". This word might have evolved from the Old German word "Gahi" meaning "impulsive", however this is unconfirmed.

This was in use for centuries to mean any version of happy, carefree, mirthful, joyful or bright, and didn't have any sexual/sexuality link until roughly the 1600s.

At that point, the "carefree" gay started being used to call a person immoral or promiscuous, and the Oxford English Dictionary defined it at the time as "addicted to pleasure and dissipations. Often euphemistically: of loose and immoral life". So, a prostitute eventually became known as a "gay woman", and somewhat ironically now, a "gay man" was a womanizer or a man who had a lot of sex with woman (especially prostitutes). This also meant that a "Gay House" was a perfectly normal way of saying "Brothel", and this is also where the word "Gaiety" comes from ("lively celebration or festivities" <- it is a common word in theatre names nowadays).

Then in the 1890s, the term "Gey Cat" ("gey" was a Scottish version of "gay") was used to refer to a "younger man in the company of an older man" or a man who offered sexual services in return for food/protection. Because of the implications of "sexual submission2 in the first definition, this phrase is thought to be the origin of "gay" as "homosexual", rather than just as "sexual deviant".

In 1951, the Oxford English Dictionary for the first time defined "gay" as slang for "homosexual", but this usage was in less mainstream communities at least 30 years earlier, specifically in US prisons and homeless camps.

"Bringing Up Baby" in 1938 is probably the first movie to use "gay" in its modern context. Cary Grant wears a lady's feathery robe in one scene, and when asked why he ad-libbed "Because I just went gay". (<- however, it is unlikely that "mainstream audiences" understood this, and likely thought he meant the carefree definition)

So, with all these definitions, I want to ask you, what makes you feel ""gay""? (any definition you want! :))

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

hi pride anogie i feel the most Gay (in like. queer and happy senses) when i am surrounded by queer joy (hanging out with my friends). i’m really lucky that my core friend group is 1. all in one place rn and 2. all queer so i feel so immensely safe and like i belong with them and it’s AWESOME :)

[nervouswaltz]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have another question (3/30)

Today's piece of history comes in the form of a film/documentary recommendation of "Paris Is Burning".

"Paris Is Burning" was released in 1990 and it provides a snapshot of New York City in the 1980's through the eyes of the city's African American and Latinx Harlem drag and ball scene. The title itself refers to an annual ball held by the artist Paris Dupree, who is featured in the film, and the film explores the elaborately structured ball competitions, where the contestants are judged on their dance talent, the beauty of their clothes and their ability to adhere to the categories.

The focus is on rival fashion "houses" (a term coined by legend Crystal LaBeija, and her successor of the Head of the House of LaBeija, Pepper LaBeija, is featured prominently in this film), showing us their competitions, the House "Mothers" and the experiences of being both queer and POC during the AIDs crisis.

It features legendary voguers, drag queens, and trans women of colour - the main figures and fights for queer rights, and people that we, and especially US Americans, owe a lot to.

I think this film is a great starting point for an introduction to the people who helped build both the ball scene and the drag scene to the absolutely phenomenal standard it is today. It's also just ICONIC.

As for my question, something that is talked about a lot in this film is the ability to/act of "throwing shade" and the skill of "reading", both of which are terms coined by the black queer community and refer to subtle and/or clever ways of insulting or conveying disgust with someone or thing. So, and this is only tangentially related, what was your favourite line from Larray and Issa's "Cancelled Remix"?

(yeah, yeah, not as related as usual, however, I wanted everyone to be able to answer at least one question because my other question is:)

Have you seen this film? And if so, what did you think of it? (if you haven't seen it and end up watching it from this ask, please tell me what you think!! xx)

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

hi pride anogie :3 uhhh i really like george and dream got matching buttplugs i think it’s silly. i also haven’t seen paris is burning (i need to) but i really do love old queer movies !! always open to recs

[nervouswaltz]

Hello! Happy June! It's Pride and I have a question (1/30)

The original Pride Flag was designed by Gilbert Baker at the request of Harvey Milk, with the first flags flying at the San Francisco Gay Freedom Day Parade celebration on June 25, 1978.

It had 8 colours to begin with, but these changed throughout time [the hot pink was removed due to scarcity of fabric and the 7 colour design was changed to six to make designing banners for lamp posts easier/more symmetrical]

The hex codes of the original 8 colours are as follows: fc6cb4//fc0404//fc8c04//fcfc04// 048c04//04c4c4//44049c//8c048c

Which one is your favourite? (Alternatively, do you have a different colour you think would've worked better?)

Happy Pride 🌈 🎉

happy pride anogie !! i love the rainbow flag especially since each stripe has a meaning so i think i’m gonna go with purple for spirit :) i also think pink should be brought back because it makes the palette feel a little less intense imo + pink meaning sex is an important thing to have especially as these rlly caustic ideas of purity culture are seeping into the lgbt community like. idk the original flag is so full of care and love and life and i wanna see it more places for SURE

[dwter]

happy pride to you too :)

love u anogie ❤️🌈🌟