#predebut hongjoong

[stealthatsweater]

babies!!!!

[sp4ceboo]

listen to me rant about predebut unwhitewashed ateez:

firstly, i apologise for this absolute shitpost, and i don't know where any of the photos are from so apologies if they're acc urs or smt.

secondly, i apologise for the fact none of this is in order because this originally started as predebut yungi and then descended into ot8 chaos.

thirdly, i apologise for the huge rambles about whitewashing and fine men.

lastly, i apologise because i have no clue how to change size of pictures in tumblr so some are massive and some are tiny (send help)

just look at this:

OK FIRSTLY LIKE MINGI'S ACNE?? i never thought i'd find acne attractive (like, i don't mind it, but my view on it has always been pretty neutral, it's just a thing that happens sometimes). erm like first of all thank you for debunking that stupid 'glass skin' thing because for the people who actually don't have glass skin it's such an expectation to live up to, and secondly you're fine as fuck. LIKE SHUT UP RN I WANT TO KISS HIM AUBAUVVFASIKYFSAA. and then there's that picture of him in the car which i can't find rn and he's like looking to the side and he highkey looks like keeho from p1h like um mingi u had no right to look that fine predebut like have you seen skz predebut they literally looked like infants?

everyone else under the cut

ok, onto exhibit b, yunho.

LOOK AT HIM. i actually don't know if this is predebut yunho because he looks damn good but the twitter post said so, so idk but like??? he was either 19 or sub 19 here like???? I DO NOT SEE 19 YEAR OLD MEN OUTSIDE ON THE STREET LOOKING AS FINE AS THIS. and if this picture isn't predebut well my arguement is still valid because the other pictures of him which i can't be bothered to add rn still look cute asf.

i love the predebut pictures of seonghwa because he's so unwhitewashed it's beautiful.

im pretty sure this is a picture of him from the third kq fellaz thingy, so that counts as predebut, but OMFG HIS SMILE??? AND HIS SKIN IS SO NICE AND LIKE UNWHITEWASHED?? LET MY BOY'S SKIN BREATHE OMFG-

here's predebut hongjoong:

LIKE????? HE'S SO CUTE I WANNA PUT HIM IN MY POCKET?? i know this post has disintegrated from me saying predebut ateez were fine to me just fawning over them being cute teenagers but like i would a hundred percent have fallen for them if they had been my classmates or anything so um yeah.

so onto yeosang:

like... the sass? the visuals? from day one? I SEE YOU BROTHER. also ignore how the pictures are getting like younger and younger ok finding predebut pictures is hard. oh yeah and did i mention whitewashing in this post like thank god the predebut pics aren't whitewashed.

ok now san:

LIKE EXCUSE ME???? I HAVE MANY WORDS TO SAY?? like umm he was a hundred percent a twig back then but like one look at his unwhitewashed face and i would have d i e d. he'd have been one of those guys i saw across the street and had to do a double take because he's highkey FINE. also it doesn't help that i acc know a guy who kind of looks like a mix of predebut san and predebut seonghwa who i highkey had a crush on last year but um tmi.

so onto wooyoung:

i acc had to look hard for a good picture where i wasn't about to start cracking up over his bowl cut so we're just gonna accept this one. as you can see he already had the 'i am a kpop idol with trendy shoes on' thing going on so his fate was already destined. also more appreciation for no whitewashing like THANK YOU THANK YOU AAAAAH. also another guy i'd probably have a crush on if they were in my class.

last but not least jongho:

i know there were many funnier pictures i could have put on but like um i just really love this photo bc he just looks so... jongho. erm and let me mention one more time that his skin is breathing!! he's not whitewashed!! what a man.

congrats if you made it to the end of this absolute batshit crazy post

[toxicrevolver]

im in love with your love with the eyebrow man 💖🤭

I’m glad 🤣 I keep getting the two of them confused and that’s legit how I refer to him in my head. I need to watch kinnporsche already but my brain just isn’t allowing me. After I watch that I’ll probably end up trying to find other shit he’s in bcs that’s what I do if I like an actor.

[beabatiny]

𓇼 𝘈𝘵𝘦𝘦𝘻 𝘍𝘪𝘤 𝘙𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴 𝘌𝘱.𝘍𝘰𝘶𝘳! 𓇼 𓆞 𝘔𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘴 𓆞 𓇼 𝘔𝘪𝘯𝘰𝘳𝘴/𝘈𝘨𝘦𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴/𝘉𝘭𝘢𝘯𝘬 𝘉𝘭𝘰𝘨𝘴 𝘥𝘰𝘯'𝘵 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵 𝘰𝘳 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘣𝘦 𝘣𝘭𝘰𝘤𝘬𝘦𝘥 𓇼 𓇼 𝘰𝘵8/𝘮𝘶𝘭𝘵𝘪𝘱𝘭𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘴 𓇼 𓈒𓏸 A Cup Of Care - @woncon poly!woosan x reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Ad Astra per Aspera - @alxtiny pirate!ot8 x navigator!reader (series) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Ateez as Disney Princes - @edenesth disney prince!ot8 x disney princess!reader (scenarios) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Ateez Meeting Single Mom Reader [Part One] [Part Two] - @reallychaoticwoo ot8 x single mom!reader (scenarios) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Ateez When Their S/o Gives Them Cuteness Aggression - @elllisaaa ot8 x reader (scenarios) 𓈒𓏸 𓇼 𝘬𝘪𝘮 𝘩𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘫𝘰𝘰𝘯𝘨 𓇼 𓈒𓏸 Anything You Could Do, I Could Do Better! - @pyeonghongrie teacher!hongjoong x teacher!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Back Off! I’m Married - @solaris-amethyst non-idol!hongjoong x reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Behind Closed Doors - @domm1etae idol!hongjoong x idol!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Boy With The Pearl Necklace - @hongjoongtime117 idol!hongjoong x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Day & Night - @youngies-bae predebut!hongjoong x reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓇼 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘬 𝘴𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘩𝘸𝘢 𓇼 𓈒𓏸 16.51 - @itstheghostofmypast bf!university student!seonghwa x university student!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 [23.27] - @yizhou-time non-idol!seonghwa x reader (timestamp) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Beneath The Candlelight - @atzaurora bf!seonghwa x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Breakfast - @littlefireball bf!seonghwa x reader (drabble) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Dirty My Ride - @starminzoo rider!seonghwa x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓇼 𝘫𝘦𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘺𝘶𝘯𝘩𝘰 𓇼 𓆞 Boyfriend - @notsoverymerry bf!yunho x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓆞 Communion - @kitten4sannie priest!yunho x nun!reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Did You Like Her In The Morning?, Yunho | Die With A Smile, Yunho - @halaboyz bf!yunho x reader (two povs) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Don’t Smile - @tyungelic ex!yunho x gn!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Drunk - @sweetiesicheng non-idol!yunho x reader (drabble) 𓈒𓏸

𓇼 𝘬𝘢𝘯𝘨 𝘺𝘦𝘰𝘴𝘢𝘯𝘨 𓇼 𓈒𓏸 Behind The Eyes - @srslyscary non-idol!yeosang x reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Chicken Date - @augustbutwinter non-idol!yeosang x gn!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Don't Forget About Me - @idyllic-ghost idol!yeosang x reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Fever - @beenbaanbuun bf!yeosang x reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Jennifer’s Body!Yeosang - @justaaveragereader jennifer!yeosang x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓇼 𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘪 𝘴𝘢𝘯 𓇼 𓈒𓏸 3:03 am - @323cutie bf!san x reader (timestamp) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Baby, Love Me Lights Out - @hongjoongspoetry idol!san x reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Choi San As Associate Professor - @melsvt associate professor!fiancee!san x reader (drabble) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Crimson - @hwaslayer non-idol!san x stripper!reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Destined To Be A Girl Dad - @makeitmingi dad!san x mom!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓇼 𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘪 𓇼 𓈒𓏸 3:07am - @cheryrri bf!mingi x reader (timestamp) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Broken Doll - @freyaphoria yandere!mingi x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓆞 Cold Red Iron - @bvidzsoo iron man!mingi x secretary!reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓆞 Dinner Table - @mingi-s-dimples bf!non-idol!mingi x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Friends To Lovers With Mingi - @lxvemaze friend!idol!mingi x reader (texts) 𓈒𓏸 𓇼 𝘫𝘶𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘰𝘰𝘺𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘨 𓇼 𓆞 Almost Home - @shadowkoo bf!wooyoung x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓆞 Better Make This Quick - @xosannie non-idol!wooyoung x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓆞 Craving The Storm - @atzaurora bf!wooyoung x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Crown Heist - @srslyscary thief!wooyoung x queen!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓈒𓏸 Cyberpunk's Bartender - @rems-writing bartender!wooyoung x gn!reader (one-shot) 𓈒𓏸 𓇼 𝘤𝘩𝘰𝘪 𝘫𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘩𝘰 𓇼 𓆞 Back From The Dead - @essenteez vampire!jongho x reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Finding Our Way Back - @03jyh23 ex-bf!idol!jongho x ex-gf!single-mom!reader (series) 𓈒𓏸 𓆞 Mr. CEO - @milkandhwaney ceo!jongho x employee!reader (one-shot) 𓆞 𓆞 My Comfort Is You - @crimsonbubble dilf!jongho x reader (drabble) 𓆞 𓈒𓏸 Punk Jongho Headcanon - @rems-writing punk!jongho × sweetheart!reader (headcanon) 𓈒𓏸

[starillusion13]

Hello! I love your writing!! I saw that your requests are open so I would like to ask what type of outfit would attract and turn on ateez members👀

Imagines...

These are just my thoughts, you might can agree and disagree at some point in your perspective but knowing them since predebut, this is my opinion on their likings and nature. But honestly, I was really imagining myself while writing this like how would I dress up if I ever get to meet them personally lol. i'm being too much delulu right now. I need some serious therapy.

Hongjoong

The man who is in love with passionate and hardworking girls rather you can say, a dedicated woman. He loves the way if you are always dressed up fashionably according to the occasion. If you are wearing a tight short dress or a long body-hugging slit gown for a night party or business meeting party then you should have to feel under watch. He would steal glances of you now and then and would keep you by his side and whisper some good and nasty compliments, to let others know how to keep their eyes off from you as you are taken by him. He would try to maintain a proper image in front of everyone with a wide toothy grin but behind the sly smirk is how he thinks of bending you in-front of the mirror and see you falling apart in that classy dress. Also, his soft side would get attracted if you wear any clothes and shoes designed by him, like the designer jackets which will make him proud that you are appreciating his hobbies and he would secretly click your pictures in it.

Seonghwa

Oh, a sweet personality who has always this adoration and awe in his eyes whenever he gets a glimpse of you. He loves a person who is a very soft aesthetic and dress up femininely. Wearing cute skirts or frocks like summer dress or casual wears. He would find you the most beautiful one in these outfits. He likes the way your dress flows with the light breeze and a bright smile adorning your face which brings a small smile on his face. He would hold your hand and feel himself the most luckiest one to have you and would try to help you in every other household chores so that you don’t look exhausted and can spend sweet times with him. But, it’s not always about this sweet romance as he might sometimes lose control to see you cooking and back hugging you in the kitchen in those frocks and well, he would bring the heaven to the kitchen counter.

Yunho

A tall handsome who doesn’t know how to keep his eyes off from you. He just finds you attractive in anything. He is like a hopeless lover and feels so happy just to see you holding his big hands with your cute little hands. Maybe, he likes you the most when you wear skirts as he would swiftly lift you up in his arms and place you on his lap, you placing your hands around his neck and both having beautiful smile on your faces. His one hand would caress your face and the other would going up and down your bare thighs. He loves the way you look so vulnerable in those cute skirt and top that it’s very difficult for him to leave you alone. Your every small shifting on his lap makes him hard and painful but no matter what he just wants to keep those cute skirts on you, rest everything off. Theres one more thing that attracts him more is you in his big clothes as you looked like a kitten dumped under the pile of clothes and he would coo and hug you all the day.

Yeosang

Well, he might be of two types. His one personality like you in some cute outfits which are totally like frocks and skirts and sweetly hold your hand and compliments here and there. He would often try to match his outfits with you and let you buy couple wears to let others know to whom you actually belong. His sweet demeanour is far to recognise that’s hiding a demon of possessiveness. He is very shy whenever he tells you about his favourite skirt or dress that looks absolutely beautiful on you. He loves it more whenever there are some cute floral or pattern designs on the dress. But if the dress is looking too sexy on you then just expect his other personality, his fingers inside of you as he would love to see you making little noises in those cute outfits. He just loves you so much so he doesn’t know how to really appreciate you in the dress so he sometimes tries to make a drawing of yours and you secretly keep it treasured in your closet.

San

He just can’t keep his hands off to himself whenever you are around him. He loves to see you in classy outfits where he can proudly present you as his partner to everyone. He has this side where he wants to see you in all elegant and classy and people admiring you for your beauty and success but he also loves your silly side. So, You in any elegant outfits might make him go crazy for you as he would definitely bring you to his parents to arrange for a wedding the next day. Speaking of turning him on, maybe if you are a very confident woman in a classy dress approach him but acts all shy during the conversation with him closely, it might turn your planned day into something else. Maybe his hands and minds both will be somewhere else unlike other times. Welcome the demon inside the sweet man.

Mingi

Tight outfits will make him hold you tightly against his body. Anything that highlighting your curves and hugging your body perfectly would turn him on. His here and there light touches and patting your head with a smile as if letting the others around him know that even if they are looking at you but you are only for him to touch and desire. Licking his lips and staring at you while you sexily sits across him on a sofa when you both have gone for a dine out would make it so hard for him to not drag you home and see you fall apart. But apart from this, he has a soft side which is majorly available the whole day, he is just always whiny for your attention so if you are wearing his favourite outfits then it might make him too soft for you to handle. He might also like baggy clothes on you sometimes as he thinks those look cute on you.

Wooyoung

He is such a Loverboy that he will always let you know about his likings and love for you. As usual, you both first met in the dance studio so that’s the very first thing he liked about you being having the same passion as his and you in the dance practice fits like a tank top or crop tops with sweat pants is the weakest point for him. He loves you in those funky outfits or tomboy-ish clothes but would definitely love anything which gives off an aura of dominance from you. Simply, those just turns him on even if you both are in public. Sometimes, you jokingly wear his clothes especially those hoodies as they are very much comfortable but to him, he wants you to always wear his clothes and maybe do all the nasty things that coming across his mind at the moment.

Jongho

He will never let you know that he loves you in your classy work outfits. Yes, this man is very reserve but a cute lover if you know him after spending 24/7 with him. Every morning whenever you are wearing those straight pants with a plain shirt or solid top , or maybe like a knee length skirt and blazer outfit. OH GOSH, have mercy on the man as he would be staring a bit too obvious that you have to raise your eyebrows and ask him continuously if you would change it or anything wrong with your look. He will wave it off as nothing or swiftly sing few lines for you to make you smile but inside his head the only thing is going on that why it is necessary for you to appear such perfectly for the meetings where all the eyes will be on you and he would not be there to glare them off. Lastly, he might just love you in outfits which are not too much revealing.

[ Please let me know if you like this sort of imagines, this is really my first time doing this sort of writings so idk how it turned out but I had fun. I want to make a NCT ver. on this so badly. Aldo, the other requests are in the queue to be posted soon. wait patiently babygorls, I'm back with all my out of world imaginations..... ]

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[conscbgb]

Ateez from the Past

Predebut Seonghwa was offered the leader position in Ateez, him being the oldest among all the members, but he immediately refused it telling to the manager and staff "There's no point in being in this team if Hongjoong isn't the leader"

Me everytime I think about it:

Gif credit tagged on it 🙏

[teezingsiyeon]

#PRE-DEBUT

her tomboy personality and handsome looks got her scouted by numerous boy group entertainment agencies when she was in highschool

was scouted by kq’s founder, kim kyu wook after sending in song lyrics she wrote herself

officially joined kq a year after hongjoong as a lyricist/producer

was offered to continue working as a lyricist and producer under kq, but instead declined after wanting to pursue singing

was introduced in the six member predebut group #KQ CHIX, a female k-rock/pop band (opposite to dance group KQ FELLAZ)

after collaborating on the viral Pick It Up dance cover which was met with a positive response, siyeon was added to the group’s debut line up

2 members left the company, while the rest three #KQ CHIX members formed k-indie rock band #BLAZE under a sister company of kq

#EARLY LIFE

used to be, and still is often labeled as the “son” of her family due to her tomboyish nature

has a sister who is older by eight years

her childhood dream was to become a basketball player

spent a few months abroad as an exchange student in Canada when she was twelve

learned to play the electric guitar when she was there, and picked up piano during her trainee days

enjoyed playing basketball and singing in the school band with her friends throughout highschool

attended an all girls school, where she famously earned her nickname of “the handsome sunbae of class 2”

copyright @ teezingsiyeon

[atzjieun]

[241012 TWITTER UPDATE]

[#지은] happy birthday jongho oppa! i wanna sing together in our next life too

#ATEEZ #에이티즈 #JIEUN #지은

Translated from Korean by Google

@ATEEZofficial

↳ [#종호] HEY you promised to never post that picture >:(

↳ @ATEEZofficial

↳ [#지은] oops sorry my hand slipped

@songmingimybeloved

↳ literally sobbing over that predebut pic they were so small :((

@applejjongho

↳ makz are so underrated i love them sm

@loveliyeo

↳ guys remember when hongjoong mentioned how long it took jieun to start talking to the members and he said that jongho took the shortest amount of time? well i do. and now i'm sad about it. 😭

[atiny-for-life]

Creative Spotlight Masterlist - All of Ateez's Solo Projects

Ateez's Full Storyline Explained

Ateez's label, KQ Entertainment - Everything you need to know.

With so many new Atinys coming in, I figured now would be a good time to shed some light on all the boys' creative solo projects over the years, big and small. Click on the name to get to the post (all posts will remain updated whenever a new project is released!):

Hongjoong

Seonghwa

Yunho

Yeosang

San

Mingi

Wooyoung

Jongho

While you're at it, here are some lesser known group projects:

Up here, we've got their first ever predebut original song, and down here their appearance as a dance crew in a Bibi collab (center Jongho!):

In 2019, they also covered Block B's Very Good in suits (back then, their performances still had to be short so it's not a full cover but they brought the energy):

In 2020, all KQ artists collabed for a fun little Christmas/New Years song and it was glorious (they devided by roommate-arrangements so we got Yunsan in gaming gear, Woojongsang being goofballs and Matz dancing like grandparents at a wedding while Mingi was on hiatus):

[omghallucinations]

idle soyeon and ateez hongjoong--2 idols both alike in indignity (very in the weeds edition: decans, chart patterns, retrogrades, degrees, etc)

(part 1 probably, this kind of very nitpicky sorting shit is addicting to me, let's DO it)

my personal fascination!!! do you not see the twinning?? these two have very "the same/different" charts and present really similarly, with the same MC, first house and ascendant.

same: simultaneously a bad bitch who can kill you and the silliest lil dummy in the world. cult of personality. big idea person. cutey tiny adorable. shapeshifter. bossy as fuck, but also baby?? vegetable anti. kind of a dweeb. otaku bestie energy

i wanna focus on the things that are similar between them to pick out any key differences, so let's get VERY INTO THE WEEDS.

(anyone who reads this is a real one and we are bros for life because this is niche in so many ways)

the same: capricorn neptune at 29° conjunct capricorn ascendant (spiritual workaholic)

neptune is at 29°, the anaretic degree--exam season is on, babes!!

anything at the anaretic degree= talent, tests, urgency, intensity, crisis

like damn can they both Act and Create and Visionary!! but um self-sacrifice is not your profession, babes? with capricorn neptune rising, they compulsively take on responsibilities.

they are both semi-monomaniacal and probably work best alone--or they think they do. if they could get away with it, they would do everything themselves (bc they know how they want it!!!), truly predebut soyeon fine... i'll do it myself.

the mood is...

shapeshifters, can completely inhabit a character

life is about artistic expression and creation, but also authority!

idealism, big issues, humanitarianism but through a practical lens

art, beauty, tapping into Feelings and Experiences of humanity (songwriter shit)

spirituality, religion??? some connection to like... The Universe, a higher being, a Grand Idea, something like that

full of empathy and kindness lowkey

capricorn wants strict boundaries and neptune wants to merge with others, so my guess would be that they often either go too hard with boundaries (into the studio, shut the door, talk to no one, become a ghost) or too light (i will take every meeting for every single thing no it's fine i got it don't worry you can take a nap i don't need sleep yes i will work over the weekend and do the work of 7 people myself)

both capricorn and neptune looooove to deny the self. capricorn ignores the self in favor of The Work (whatever Their Work is); capricorn neptune specifically has a jesus complex and wants to carry the cross for everybody. also there's religion stuff there in general!

damn honestly, talk about overwork issues and inability to delegate, #mood

different: hongjoong's direct neptune, soyeon's retrograde neptune (witch vs. EXTREMELY witch)

faith is going to be more important and more Pressuring for soyeon. both of them have neptune following them around through life like..

capricorn ascendant: gotta Work neptune, whispering in their ear: consider the Beyond 🥺... consider Humanity 🥺 cap ascendant: gotta work neptune: consider a total lack of boundaries.... consider ghosting everyone you know,,, 😶‍🌫️ cap ascendant:gotta make that money🤑 make purse🤑 neptune: Art, Creation... the Aesthetic... cap ascendant: got a fur coat so i make it purr 😎

hongjoong's neptune is like, "perfect script, no notes."

however, soyeon's neptune is coming in with edits.

capricorn ascendant: gotta Work (gotta work) neptune rx: that's me in the corner... capricorn ascendant: gotta make that money? 🤑? neptune rx, screeching: THAT'S ME IN THE SPOT 🗣️ LIGHT 🗣️ LOSING MY RELIGION capricorn ascendant: make... purse? neptune rx, yowling: WHAT IF GOD WAS 🗣️ONE OF US🗣️ capricorn ascendant: got a fur coat??? neptune rx, bellowing: ART AND COMMERCE ARE INTERLOCKED SEMIOTIC PRACTICES A NON-LINGUISTIC SIGN IS BOUND TO THE INTERPRETANT WHO IN TURN IS IMPRISONED WITHIN SOCIETAL CONVENTION,,, WHICH, capricorn ascendant, frantically googling: ..; haha so i don't make it purr, actually i, um, unravel the mythos of the symbol,,, also the coat is vintage?? neptune rx: 😈

basically soyeon is under more pressure to develop her own conception of spirituality and connection to The World Beyond and shit. retrograde planets are usually associated with past life stuff (like some thematic shit went down and was unresolved in a past life which means u have to reckon with the planetary themes now) and a pressure to individuate, aka decide shit yourself.

soyeon is a bit more revolutionary when it comes to her spirituality, and the way she connects to Humanity's Vibes is more... mystical?? idk. i mean it really tracks that she's a practicing buddhist and shares that as a part of her Idol Image.

aquarius uranus in the 1st house: well sinead o'rebellion!!

it's in the 1st house, in its own decan, it's SUPER visible. we've already got our spiritual goats (neptune conjunct capricorn ascendant) and now it's time to make this significantly um.... well a little bit meaner but also cooler and more Revolutionary!

aquarius uranus in the 1st=aquarius rising flavor

a capricorn rising can be very strict and structured and potentially traditional in their worldview (not as much these two, not with neptune conjunct ascendant). uranus in the 1st house says lmao fuck your bourgeois ideas in this very black and white no-excuses kind of way

they could both be excellent revolutionary leaders if they wanted

they truly want to overthrow shit they don't agree with--but at the same time they're both canny, capricorn knows how to play it just within the rules and push boundaries just enough to stay out of real trouble so they can keep their positions of authority (although i bet their personal opinions are pretty radical)

they're comfortable in situations of dramatic change or instability--they do well in chaos or unpredictable situations especially for earth risings

there's an inherent difference in their personalities--they know they're not like other people in many ways and they can't hide that. they feel misunderstood and often are misunderstood, people project stuff onto them (neptune) and misread them as harsher than they are (capricorn, uranus).

neither of them could follow orders for more than like 2-3 hours because the minute they think something is stupid they are rebelling (uranus), losing any respect they still have for the stupid-order-giver (aquarius), completely evading control (neptune) and/or taking control themselves (capricorn). lmao what is hongjoong gonna do in the military, that's gonna suuuuck.

you can tell them to do whatever, sure, but when it comes to The Work they are literally going to do whatever they want, sorry.

just physically they have the skinny compact capricorn rising look with the alien uranus flavor and soulful neptune eyes--plus the neptunian shape-shifting ability. they're two of the best performers in the game.

different: soyeon's retrograde uranus conjunct ascendant, hongjoong uranus direct in the 1st house

soyeon's aquarius uranus is retrograde, and also widely conjunct her ascendant, so it's gonna be more... loud.

capricorn ascendant: Gotta Work (gotta work) neptune rx: that's me in the corner... uranus rx, dead serious: disobedience is man’s original virtue capricorn ascendant: gotta make that money? 🤑? neptune rx: THAT'S ME IN THE SPOT 🗣️ LIGHT 🗣️ LOSING MY RELIGION uranus rx, staring capricorn dead in the eye: the proletariate has nothing to lose but their chains capricorn ascendant: make... purse? neptune rx, yowling: WHAT IF GOD WAS 🗣️ONE OF US🗣️ uranus rx, poorly hiding a guillotine: complacency is complicity...bitch

not saying she is a committed revolutionary in every respect just saying she could if she wanted to despite her compromising 7th house placements and libra moon (all of whom also committed to equality and fairness!)

also just in general, social change is going to be a driving force for soyeon in a different way than hongjoong--he also has a good amount of that but it's maybe less... political? less intense? than it is for soyeon. not surprising, for a female producer in south korea. if i were her i'd be furious 100% of the time.

soyeon also has a lot more creative control of idle's music than hongjoong does of ateez's--idk if that is by design for HJ or not. the urgency of control/individuality/personal expression is stronger astrologically for soyeon with the retrograde planets so it does track?

i think hongjoong is more willing to let things go, in some ways. soyeon is more willing to let things go in other ways, so!

the same: ruled by saturn, saturn acting up at the base of their charts, saturn retrograde

damn i love people who are saturn-ruled. saturn is lowkey my favorite. people who are saturn-ruled or saturn-dominant tend to Go Thru It but in return there is a gift. like damn saturn is a harsh parent but saturn cares soooo much. you will Suffer but it will be the making of you, u know?? also people who cross you will eventually get fucked up by the universe.

both of them have insanely active saturns that anchor their charts. cannot emphasize enough how intense these fuckers are. since they both have a retrograde saturn, they are less attached to the trappings of societal norms than they could be. also they are really gonna have to deal with their issues with authority??

different: saturn at 29° aries v. saturn in taurus

hongjoong: ruled by saturn in aries at 29°

another 29°! neptune isn't hongjoong's only big talent/tester--saturn has joined the chat. first of all aries saturn is already weird and jumpy as fuck. aries is a baby and saturn wants you to grow the hell up. aries loathes a rule, saturn has the rulebook in hand and is annotating as we speak!! there's inherent conflict within the heart of an aries saturn. a real tinderbox tbh--both saturn and aries really think they're right. who will win???

(there are no winners :( they have to learn to live together :()

in aries--leadership, drive, doing it all on your own so pretty clear uhhh workaholic situation

anything at 29° is frantic--it's about to pass to the next sign, so it wants to do everything before it leaves. hongjoong has this almost manic need for control and leadership and creation, action, drive.

3rd house=gemini flavor, cute! i mean, weird for saturn, but fun for me personally. saturn is exerting a lot of force in communication, language, learning. maybe he had a very restrictive childhood education that also made him like way more committed to being in charge himself bc rules are stupid. unless they are his rules, in which case they are perfect, so.

square capricorn neptune (exact) and ascendant-- the aries-capricorn square is the most #leader one u can imagine. take no prisoners, extremely cardinal sign. if there's a crisis or a zombie apocalypse bet on hongjoong--he can really pull together a survival plan in the face of abject horror. snaps for hongjoong!

with neptune here it's softer, more concerned with humanity, less monomaniacal. so we don't have to worry about hongjoong turning his ragged survival group into a fucked up cult or something, he'll make good choices for the collective, more snaps for hongjoongie!

still there's a conflict between his saturn, who is suuuper harsh and out for itself and wants to act without restrictions (aries) and his softer neptune who cares about the greater good or service and wants to be more democratic or measured and mature--so going back to the zombie apocalypse, hongjoong might be prone to taking extreme action and then regretting that shit. deducting a snap for hongjoong. hm maybe he should have a second-in-command 🤔

a very productive square, here! lots of energy and action--lots of creation and follow-through. trust him in a zombie apocalypse but make sure you've got checks and balances in your pseudo-government.

opposite scorpio lilith -- there's an optimism about aries that scorpio does not share. aries is a baby. scorpio is a hardened nordic detective in her forties. she's making cynical asides and aries is toddling off towards a beautiful future

in scorpio opposite 3rd house saturn hongjoong loOOVEs the drama and #secrets and #intrigue but he acts like everyone else is bothering him by bringing their drama to him

the 9th house is more uranus-y stuff--rebel with a cause. god i would pay real cash to see what he was like in school. or would have been like in school if he hadn't been a trainee which probably took up all his energy. he hates rigid societal standards and dumb rules and shit!! hates injustice!!! i feel like we would have been expelled together, it'd be so romantic🥹

saturn wants hongjoong to Take Charge, Take Responsibility, and lilith is like DISAVOW SOCIETY, OVERTHROW THE EARTH. lilith constantly is telling hongjoong how people are CROWDING him he's TRAPPED they're gonna BETRAY HIM SOMEHOW even though saturn wants that responsibility and social interaction. fight!

soyeon: ruled by saturn in taurus

soyeon is practical. she focuses on what can tangibly be done and she works methodically. she doesn't really do "writer's block" bc she's like ah, hating my work is a natural stage of creation, just gotta keep going. she's a lot softer than she appears, but if she wants something her way she will get it that way.

soyeon likes the physical parts of creation. she likes being in the room and she likes her equipment and her stuff. she likes messing with the files, and she has a very physical feeling about it. it makes me think about how she is when producing--how she talks her members through what she wants, it's very focused on the body and the physical way to make the sound.

i imagine hongjoong is more about the ideas when he explains things, or generally more like, let's experiment a lot and then i'll narrow everything down later. soyeon has an initial vision and takes incremental steps to guide people to that vision--and she wants it her way before she edits. she needs the vision to be concrete.

she has less frantic energy here than hongjoong. soyeon is absolutely a workaholic and is gonna have to deal with that, but she's less afraid i guess. hongjoong probably has really dramatic ups and downs with his work, but soyeon is more level-headed. she might decide she hates something later (superlady) and she's never gonna change her mind on that but it's not gonna send her into a tailspin. it's more like she'll want to work her way out of any perceived failure immediately.

super strong square to mars: hello productivity! also very similar to the capricorn-aries square--you can also put soyeon in charge during a zombie apocalypse. she will be very level-headed and practical and will remember to secure a reliable water supply.

taurus square leo: fixed square--stubborn as FUCK. SUPER productive. creative, some ego situation. resting bitch face in a massive way. loves an object. loves a good house. loves a good vibe. loves comfort and pretty things.

quincunx pluto: hm well there's the fear! i retract what i said about the fear. issues with authority, also she probably both desperately wants the approval of authority figures and wants to fully ignore their influence and go her own way. confusing!!

trine the sun (exact): lucky!! damn i wish i had this aspect. as another adhd bitch, consistency is not my bag. it is however, soyeon's bag. it's an earth trine and it's saturn-sun--soyeon is disciplined as fuck and reliable in her work.

she also has the lilith opposition but it's not out-of-sign, so we've got fixed squares and a fixed opposition! attachment, desire, sex, money, power, all that fun stuff. veeeery secretive in some ways.

you can also trust soyeon in a zombie apocalypse. very good head on her shoulders, will be super productive, will think about proper waste disposal. she will not share power though, so that could be a problem. also she probably thinks she does share power and it's like "... girl? what about this is screaming teamwork exactly???"

same: locomotive charts with mars "engines"

in a locomotive chart, planets are all around the chart 3/4ths of the way. the "engine" planet sets the tone for all the other ones. both soyeon and hongjoong are led by mars--action, initiation, survival, drive. any locomotive chart wants to go-go-go, but mars leading it--extra this.

different: everything else!

hongjoong's planets are led by his 8th house virgo mars

8th house is the scorpio house, fixed water, depth, transformation, deals, secrets, darkness

UNNECESSARILY DRAMATIC

may enjoy bdsm or transgressive sexuality in some way? especially with the scorpio of it all. sexual but feels weird about it (virgo)

virgo wants to be of service, wants to pick out what is useful, wants to critique, wants to fiddle with everything, virgo is cautious, virgo is freaking out about something

works to avoid feelings (workaholic +10)

virgo also loves a crisis, and with the 8th house... it's not that deep, hongjoong... it's not that deep....

the 8th is mars and pluto ruled, so hongjoong's mars gets a boost here too, and a scorpio flavor--he lowkey (highkey) can be very very intense

in a fixed house wants to do things its own way, in a mutable sign its willing to adapt however to survive. earth and water and a fire planet. confusing!! very weird mars vibe! lots of conflicting energy!

super wild exact jupiter-mars opposition--bringing the drama yet again, girl. at least he's funny as fuck. also a really good leader! makes people feel good and seen! not afraid of the Darkness (that much!)

however... those hasty decisions... girl be grateful for your capricorn rising bc this could've been a disaster.

also pisces jupiter is really cute and jupiter is hongjoong's final dispositor (rules everything). very important jupiter!! it all comes back to his ideals and philosophies and dreams for the future. he's very future-leaning in general. much more emotional than some of his other placements might lean or try to lean--and jupiter trine sun and venus... ahh my heart. cute placement. more on this another time.

soyeon's planets are led by her 7th house leo mars

7th house is a libra house, venus-ruled, it's cardinal air, it's communication, it's relationships, it's uhhh having to litigate for ur life all the time ha ha ha?

leo mars wants to shine, wants to LIVE FOREVER through creation, creativity, praise, the spotlight

leo and libra, very it's not that deep babes it's just a laugh babes

in the sun decan it's all about personal expression!! it's a little bit tinkerbell I live for the applause applause applause (+5 sharpay from hsm)

in a cardinal and angular house it wants to act first, in a fixed sign it is sure of itself, we've got a real unobstructed leader energy here--the 7th house is a little more hesitant but everything else is propelling mars forward

fire and air are friends and they wanna party. fire sign, air planet, fire planet--the energy is super pure super unified, consistent, complimentary (if hongjoong's locomotive is a lil cautious and intense soyeon's has NO FEAR and it DID come here to make friends)

soyeon's mars is right up against her descendant--it's like a little fuel pot for her but it might uhh give her indigestion? there's this little bubbling anger pit she pretend she do not see a lot of the time. it probably feels deeply unproductive and maybe scary to feel her anger, but if she doesn't face it it's gonna face her, girl!

opposite her ascendant and 1st house neptune--holy avoidance batman, soyeon simply loves to close her eyes and ignore a problem, byyyye

the back n forth between her optimistic puppy leo mars and her sad swan capricorn neptune is very creatively potent tho

lmao fire trine to her her sag pluto, she's genuinely hilarious, versatile creatively, can shake shit off well

soyeon's fear of not proving herself enough or whatever actually propels her to action instead of freaking her out, canNOT relate but good for her

in conclusion this is really fun for me lmao I'm gonna do another edition. stay tuned for the 10th house I guess!!

[everyonewooeverywhere]

Super off topic but need to talk abt it, so, around when ateez first debuted I had looked into them and picked mingi/san as my bias bc they were so cute :(( and then stuff happened (I'm a Monbebe so when wonho left mx I dropped kpop for good until atz Coachella) and my bias is Hongjoong and mingi. Mister fucking Choi San is creeping in the dark recesses of my brain again the past comeback and I've been so feral that idk if it's actually me or hormones bc my attraction usually changes a bit during ovulation, which is USUALLY when I ahve the hots for san. But I am NOT ovulating!!! Infact my period is LATE 🗣🗣(not pregnant unless it's the second coming of christ) and I was borderline snarling on a voice call talking abt his stupid tits!!! Hongjoon has to knock some sense into me before I turn into a san bias instead bc thats where I'm heading (included a screenshot of me freaking iut iver him to be funny)....was I always supposed to be a san boy. I liked him predebut....he's haunting my narrative (my bussy)

oh me too on the wonho thing 😭 i was a huge monbebe in 2018-19 and after he left i didn't listen to kpop at all for a while. i got into txt at the end of 2020 but that was it until like 2022 when i started listening to other groups again.

but you're so real for the san thing 🫠 because perfect body aside, something about his eyes just have me so fucking crazy. like his toktoq lives!? and the way he looks into the camera?! lord 😮‍💨 like that's a man who will cherish you for the rest of his fucking life.

that's why he gets the hormones going crazy. because you cannot look into those eyes and not feel some sort of intimacy.

like please excuse me while i throw my legs over those wonderful shoulders and let him put me into a mating press. we could be having the nastiest most unprotected and fucking filthy sex ever right now but whatever. he don't want me ig 😒

[imtrashbutcute]

ATEEZ if they were dropped inside Genshin Impact

AN: I know there’s a term for this exact scenario but I can’t quite think of what it is exactly XD also, I’ll probably end up making this a full series if y’all want it. A couple of my friends ( @joychiri and @chuimoon 💜💜) and I randomly got the idea of what it would be like if the members of ATEEZ were suddenly dropped into the Genshin Impact universe so here’s what we ended up with.

Hongjoong

Hongjoong would probably end up being dropped in Fontaine because with their fashion and technology, it’d be one of the most fitting places for him to end up. He’d more specifically land somewhere in the Court of Fontaine. He’d probably end up with either a dendro or hydro vision, but I’m leaning a bit more toward a dendro vision because of his pursuit of learning and trying out different styles of music. Hongjoong also gives off bow-user vibes, similar to Tighnari and Collei.

Seonghwa

Seonghwa would end up somewhere in Liyue when he first gets dropped in Teyvat. I’d wager either around Stone Gate or in Jueyun Karst. There isn’t as much of a reason compared to Hongjoong, it’s really just the vibes he gives off. He’d probably end up with a cryo vision which is fitting because of the fact that he originally was going to be a rapper but ended up debuting as a vocalist. That, along with his insecurities when it came to his singing voice predebut, adds to why he’d have a cryo vision. Seonghwa would be a sword user for fairly obvious reasons (Wonderland, Kingdom version to be specific).

Yunho

Yunho would end up landing in Mondstat. Probably somewhere just outside of the main city, like Springvale. I don’t have a specific reason why, but Yunho would have a hydro vision. As much as I want to say that he’d be a claymore user, I feel like he’d actually be a catalyst user, similar to Neuvillette. He just gives me hydro catalyst vibes.

Yeosang

Now Yeosang is a unique one. He’d also land in Fontaine, probably somewhere near Marcotte Station. This is mainly because of Yeosang’s love of building and flying drones. I feel like he’d end up welding two visions. The first one being anemo because predebut Yeosang and up until fairly recently when he decided to suddenly beef up, that man was a bit of a twink (I say with the most love possible). I have yet to see a male anemo user that isn’t a twink. I feel like he’d also end up wielding a dendro vision because of his insane duality. Plus, that one performance of Bouncy where he’s in the green shirt, forest fae princess vibes right there. He also would probably end up being a catalyst user because, once again, fae princess.

San

San would probably end up in one of the abandoned villages located on Serai Island which is in Inazuma. He honestly gives me Inazuma vibes, which is one of the biggest reasons that he’d end up there. I could see him having an electro vision. Once again, no specific reason, it’s just the vision that I think fits him best. San would also wield either a sword or a polearm. I’m leaning more towards a polearm because of his martial arts training, plus I imagine him doing the types of aerials that Thoma does when he’s using his elemental skill.

Mingi

Mingi would land either in Sumeru or Inazuma. If he were to land in Sumeru, it’d probably be in either Gandharva Villa or Port Ormos. If he landed in Inazuma, however, he’d probably end up near the Kamisato Estate or somewhere in Ritou. With his passion and fire (no pun intended) that he displays when he’s rapping, I imagine him with a pyro vision. Plus his stage presence is also very fitting for his vision. Mingi would probably end up as a claymore user similar to Dehya and Diluc and have a quicker attack sequence similar to how Itto’s attack pattern is in game.

Wooyoung

Wooyoung, the brat that he is, would also end up in Liyue. The Heavenly Principles had probably intended for him to land elsewhere, but he’d likely will himself to land in Liyue with Seonghwa, just to be a menace to him. They likely would still be separated but would be the first to reunite because Wooyoung is persistent. He’d end up having an anemo vision because, once again, I have yet to see a non-twink male anemo character. Plus, that one move in Crazy Form he does before the chorus, twink behavior and no one can convince me otherwise. I can see him using a polearm because of how agile that man is. Like, I’d say he’s about as agile as Xiao with the personality of Heizou.

Jongho

Now last, but certainly not least, we have Jongho. Jongho would probably end up on Sumeru. More specifically he’d probably end up in either Sumeru City or Port Ormos. I would envision him with a geo vision because of his steadfastness and commitment to his craft. Plus, he just seems like he’d have a geo vision. Lastly, I think he’d use either a claymore like Navia and Itto or a polearm like Zhongli and Yun Jin.

[ihavetoomanyfandomstobesane]

to those who know me i wanted to make a post about my ult biases so here we go

heeseung from enhypen. homeboy been my ult since first i laid eyes on him predebut and i haven’t looked back since. he’s been my number one always

seonghwa and hongjoong from ateez. listen. these two are a package deal to me. i can’t rank one higher than the other. they’re the newest on this list but by the gods i love them so much

chan (chanhyuk) from to1/too, now disbanded. yeah it fucking hurts. i love him a lot tho and he’s been on this list the longest

ryujin from itzy. i’m queer as fuck what did y’all expect. i am so gay for her

in conclusion i am in love with all the idols on this list and would run away with them in a heartbeat

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Hi, would you mind doing the same reading for yeosang or other mmbrs career?and share if you don't mind any pressure, though

ateez tarot reading

next big thing in each member's career

do I have their energy permission to do and share this reading? the emperor, 6 of wands

this is based on tarot and energy reading, don't trust me or rely on my words ☝️

seonghwa

something he used to do or enjoy predebut, a collaboration of some kind, he still developing this skill. it's emotional, intense, scary, a bit aggressive, he gotta juggle a lot at once, speed is also important. so this is making me think of rap, like getting an official position as one, which in ateez's case includes writing lyrics too. big stuff. the idea of a concept is important here too.

this year, next year, around his birthday, numbers 3, 6, 4 stood out.

hongjoong

his spread makes me think of rapping and collabing too (lil uzi vert x ateez 🧍‍♂️). hongjoong has got many options, this next big step is gonna bring him much visibility, he's gonna be showing off a lot, there's a lot of shimmer, which may be related to fashion. he's in a position of big authority delegating this and that, it's an emotional step for him, maybe a dream come true. the next big thing for hongjoong may be a clothing line or something similar 😭🫂

3 is a very consistent number here, 2 and 4 also. this is the consequences of his actions, gradual growth, completely inevitable, may start this year or next year, and get really done around this time of year 2025/6, september may be an important month for this project.

yunho

yunho might be acting again soon. this seems to be in it's early stages yet, like audition process. it's dreamy, a big big deal, it's emotional too, he seems nervous about it. I did read a while ago that yunho may soon live romance vicariously through fantasy and tv.

8 is an important number, may already be in progress, 6 and 3 also consistent. 2024, august, beginning of the year is important too.

yeosang

this spread can be interpreted as the end of his work as an mc in the show, and/or a new opportunity in a different but equally popular program in korean television. this is a skill he already has developed and is proud of, but doesn't get to use often, this would have more national than international reach. it's an opportunity that brings him liberation and excitement but makes him unsure because of real-life complications.

11, 2, 9, date calculation is not reliable for this reading, but the number 11 was super consistent.

san

a solo thing, for sure. his next big thing is related to his individuality and emotional maturity, this has to do with what makes his soul happy. it's an emotional thing that makes him look careless but he's very well prepared and thought about this a lot. the next big step in his career is a path not usually taken, it's scary, he doesn't know what comes next, anything can happen. this requires a lot of self control and introspection. I'm not sure what it is, san is quite secretive these days, but the cards may indicate romance depending on the perspective. this may be the revelation of something very important to him, changing the perspective of the general public, requires a leap of faith.

next august, this was really sure. when he feels confident.

mingi

mingi's thing has to do with discomfort, energy renewal, soul searching and is a big deal, makes him unsure. it's probably something unseen to the general public. mingi may get a big celebrity as a mentor backstage, become a guide for a big name or even take another break, either way, it's his destiny, he needs this. this may somehow relate to his future spouse, like he accumulates money or meets them because of this. it's something he's used to doing but still feels intimidating for him. this may be music, which he usually writes in a very personal and metaphorical manner.

he'll have to lose something to win something even bigger, really important for his future. may start or have started this year and "end" next year. numbers 8 and 7 are very consistent.

wooyoung

connection, relationships, fighting, competing. he comes out successful but not without making enemies along the way, it's almost like a scandal, which may make him look immature or have to do with the way he was brought up/his family. this may have international reach and make him influential, it's probably to do with his artistic side or his opinions. this is something he'll learn from and may taint his image.

november or september of this year or next, maybe next chuseok holiday (description reminds me of isac

jongho

ALL royalty cards, this is a really really big deal, a big influence, big position, maybe an authority figure. something he feels extremely comfortable, maybe even casual in/doing, he has accumulated skill and easily shines in (definitely to do with singing), very likely a solo thing but I see a big, influential female energy, someone or something he may be a fan of.

may happen on his b-day this year

[ateezivy]

sasaeng rumors

 ˗ˏˋ ivy and mingi are dating. 

     ……❪ this was released about 5 months before dispatch even caught them. most fans didn't believe it but once dispatch posted about it was when people started to believe it. ❫

 ˗ˏˋ ivy vapes to cope with stress. 

     ……❪ this was spread around a lot in 2020, and many fans didn't believe it because ivy has talked about her disliking for harmful substances. there is a good chunk of fans that believe it though ❫

 ˗ˏˋ ivy smokes weed when she can, but not often. 

     ……❪ fans find this rumor funny. it spread around the beginning of 2023. ❫

 ˗ˏˋ ivy went on many dates during her rebellious stage and hooked up with some idols. 

     ……❪ this was spread during 2019-2020. not many fans cared about this, they didn't believe it. many fans said that if it was true they didn't care enough. ❫

 ˗ˏˋ now that wooyoung and ivy aren't fighting anymore, it's said that ivy and san fight the most. 

     ……❪ this was spread around 2021, but it was proven false by ivy when she said "i'm still most likely to fight with wooyoung or hongjoong because our personalities can clash a lot" ❫

 ˗ˏˋ ivy had a crush on stray kids' jeongin during her predebut and ioi days. 

     ……❪ it's a joke between the two fandoms now. no ones really worried about it at all and they find it funny. ❫

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[yunwooz]

i’m still thinking about it but the reason it’s so frustrating and infuriating for so many fans is because so much of the effort put towards ateez’s growth comes directly from the fandom. it comes from the fandom reaching out to content creators and brands and hyping up opportunities meanwhile kq finds and picks very niche and small things like wonderwall or this new pott collab rather than taking advantage of the brands and people who express desire to work with them. they lose out on so many opportunities by constantly booking ateez completely full while also using them as a buffer to get hype and opportunities for their new group, and there wouldn’t be a problem with that if kq were putting in the same amount of time and effort into promoting ateez as well. they’re hurting both ateez and their juniors bc how can their juniors stand on their own and make their own name that isn’t attached to ateez if the company just pushes them as ‘ateez’s juniors’ and nothing else??

they don’t let ateez do tiktok challenges with other artists despite having three members (hongjoong, yunho, yeosang) all in prime opportunities to capitalize off there dj/mc positions to take part in challenges. bc they pack ateez’s schedule so full with things like kcon and tours that it limits the opportunities other members receive when you have members like yeosang, san, yunho all expressing how badly they want to release contents like covers. seonghwa has been begging to do mc work for well over a year. you literally have hongjoong and seonghwa telling fans on lives ‘hey these members don’t get to sing so they really want to do covers’ and your group is 5 years into existence?

you don’t promote the opportunities they have well beyond saying ‘hey x member will be here at this date and time’, you don’t market to your chinese fanbase at ALL despite starting to do so with your new group, you don’t promote your japanese comebacks anywhere except one platform which is your japanese twitter account, but then you release 45 pieces of merch to run your most popular group who pull your ass out of debt into the ground bc all you want to do is use them as a cash cow to fund your newer projects. it’s infuriating as a fan to watch and as someone who has been following ateez since predebut it’s so fucking frustrating to watch their company basically lose interest in promoting them and pushing them to greater heights. 

we get 1 comeback a year and 2 tours, and you haven’t given ateez a full length album since 2019? you gave them a full length album within a year of debut and haven’t given them another in the past almost 4 years that’s absurd. members constantly talk about having so many songs waiting to be released but on the single album released with halazia all we got were remixes and an outro??? and the line distributions are a shred better bc wow wooyoung and yeosang get four lines instead of one! after 5 years!

all that fucking money ateez are earning them off all those tours and festivals, kq can and should hire more staff and legit business professionals who can pick up every ounce of slack otherwise they’re gonna lose their precious moneymaker by either running them into the ground with burnout or by stagnating ateez’s growth to the point of no return.