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malewife-yoomyeongwoo · 2 years ago

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Had another au idea for tsctir that involves HYJ going back in time (about 5-6 years) using the wishing stone, like before, except the wishing stone requires a payment of equal value to the wish (in this case, its at the cost of most of his remaining life) and he goes back in time with his current body.

So, HYJ shows up in the past (scars, injuries, leg injury and all) several months before the awakening broker incident can take place and desperately tries to get in contact with his brother. When he finally does (im thinking that HYJ manages to get HYHs attention cause hes waiting around his brothers guild for him to get back from a dungeon), HYH is shocked (his face twisting with dread? And maybe HYJ notes that the HYH of the future wouldnt have made the mistake of letting his emotions show on his face which makes him feel a bit nostalgic) to see his hyung in crutches and carrying injuries that he shouldnt have and looking older? more exhausted and worn down? than his hyung should be and he’s livid cause, what the hell happened while he was in the dungeon?

The change is too sudden and too severe for HYH to ignore and he has HYJ brought into his guild to get to the bottom of it. HYJ goes through the process of apologizing to HYH and talking and HYH has HYJ explain whats going on cause his hyung looks older, has injuries that couldnt have healed this much while he was in a dungeon, and his hyung uses his crutches like hes had them for a long time, and the notifications hes gotten of his hyungs current state doesnt match up with the hyung hes seeing in front of him; so HYJ gives a, very lacking, explanation (just enough to explain that hes from the future thanks to a wishing stone) but HYH accepts it cause HYJ is able to prove that its actually HYJ and not someone else using some kind of disguise.

So, due to everything surround his future hyungs situation (and how could he abandon his hyung when he looks so Tired?), HYH has HYJ live with him.

Its, awkward. At first. But HYJ is nurturing by nature. He knows he doesnt have long left to live. Hes not trying to get anywhere with the time he has left. Hes just, trying to do what he shouldve done for his dongsaeng. So, this time around, he doesnt hold back and he doesnt mind (though he does get bored) being confined to the house.

HYJ tells HYH lots of things about the future (his way of making it up to HYH for all the stress hed caused him pre regression) in order to help him grow his guild much more easily. And “all hyungs are equal” HYH is happy to have HYJ living with him again. His, significantly older, hyung who stays home and worries over him, cooks him meals that remind him of when they used to live together, and who dotes on him with lots of love and affection. His hyung who looks at him fondly, even if sadly at times, and treats him like a child (even more so than usual, which he blames on the larger age gap, even tho hes an adult, but its a dynamic thats oddly comforting).

During this time, HYJ realizes that he hadn’t seen HYH smile in the 8 years that they had been apart (except when hed died protecting him) and seeing his dongsaeng smile so easily and freely now just. Breaks his heart. HYH smiling an enjoying himself in his hyungs company is what gets HYJ to break his silence on what happened. He starts by apologizing, which confuses HYH cause his future hyung hasnt done anything? But the way HYJs voice wavers has HYH feeling concerned, but HYJ continues. “I dont know how id never noticed it before. Have you really not smiled in all the time we’ve been apart? Have you been happy at all?”

How had he gone so long without realizing a single thing? “I’m sorry I didnt notice how miserable youd been. I’m sorry for failing to be a proper hyung.” And maybe HYJs crying (but trying really hard not to) and HYHs trying to comfort him saying “It’s not your fault; i didnt explain anything” but “I should’ve noticed. You hadnt smiled all that time. It’d been 8 years. I dont think Id ever seen you look happy. How could I have been so blind?” And maybe he’s hugging HYH by this point and rambling “I was so caught up in my own anger after you left; so focused on how i felt that it took-“ he pauses “Yoohyun-ah. You died trying to protect me from an ss class lauchitas dragon that showed up in a d class dungeon i was in. It took you sacrificing yourself for me to realize you still cared. It took you dying for me to realize just how much i needed you in my life. How much i missed you and wanted you in it. I’m sorry for getting mad when you interfered. Im sorry for resenting you all those years. I’m so so sorry. I wish i could take all of it back. You didnt deserve any of that. I should’ve been supporting you. Im sorry. I’m sorry.” And, by this point, HYH knows that future HYJs been in dungeons and had awakened but he hadnt known all of this, but he does know that his future self wouldnt have regretted dying for his hyung. His hyung was his whole world; his life wouldnt have been worth living if hed lost his hyung. He doesnt say it though. Its not what his future hyung would want to hear.

HYJ, over the course of living with HYH (and sometime after the above scene), ends up convincing him to explain everything to the HYJ of this time. His relationship with HYH had been bad but he could still make a difference for his brother now so he does. So, instead of lecturing HYJ about the awakening broker incident (it helps that he knew it would happen ahead of time and why his hyung would even think to do such a thing), HYH apologizes and explains the situation. He explains why hes been getting in his hyungs way; why hed left; why hes cut off contact (seeing future HYJ as distraught as he was before gives him the push he needed to actually be honest about everything) . They end up talking for a long time and their conversation ends with their first hug in 3 years (and maybe an award winning act that resembles what had happened in the original timeline to prevent people from realizing anything’s changed) and a promise to keep in touch and hang out from time to time (albeit discretely; just until HYH has the best guild in Korea). And maybe HYH, at the recommendation of future HYJ, gives past HYJ an envelope containing a lot of cash and tells his hyung to pursue what he really wanted to do with his life; to get the education he had given up for HYHs sake? Idk

When future HYJ sees HYH return home, he looks much more relaxed and like a weights been lifted off his shoulders. It also makes him feel horrible again for not realizing just how much hed made his dongsaeng worry over him —how self centered and uncooperative hed been. It leaves a touch of guilt, bitter in his chest, lingering. But he also feels happy knowing that HYH wont have to suffer the way he did in the pre regression; that things wont have to get as bad as they did.

Of course there’d need to be scenes where HYH gets to enjoy being spoiled and HYJ cant say no to HYHs puppy eyes (especially cause a 20yr old is easily still like a kid in the eyes of a 30yr old); i just dont know what kinda scenes to make happen for this yet (pls let me know if you guys have any ideas)

As HYJ starts to reach the end of his life, the effects of the sacrificial wish stone starts making itself known. HYJ starts to get weaker and weaker; he tries to brush it off telling HYH not to worry, but the first time HYH comes home to find HYJ collapsed on the floor, HYH panics and forces him to see a doctor. When the doctors cant find anything wrong, HYH is about to start going off (to ask for more tests to be done), but HYJ stops him saying theres something else he needs to come clean about regarding his situation. And, when the doctor leaves, HYJ explains that the wish stone was actually a sacrificial wish stone, and he’d sacrificed most of his life in order to go back in time. This information leaves HYH feeling really distraught and he tries to find ways to increase his hyungs life span or improve things in some way, but nothing works. HYJ paid the price before regressing. But, he was able to do what hed wanted, so hes not too upset. His main worry is that HYH would feel sad, so he talks to past HYJ about everything and makes sure that he wont make the same mistakes that hed made (makes sure that his dongsaeng wont be alone this time).

When HYJ reaches the end of his life, hes already bed bound. Hed lost the strength needed to carry himself but now hes having a hard time moving his arms and anything more than talking drains him. He knows hes going to pass soon. HYH takes a vacation just to spend all of his time at his hyungs side. HYH tries to smile and keep things light hearted for his hyung, but, when HYH thinks HYJ isnt looking, HYJ catches HYH looking so sad. Then, one morning, HYJ Knows hes not going to make it to tomorrow and he lets HYH know. HYH tries to hold it together at the news and doesnt leave his side. HYJ doesnt miss the way his hands tremble at the news. The past HYJ is brought over at future HYJs request (he wanted someone to be there for HYH) and, when the time comes, HYH is sobbing and trying to give HYJ some of his own life force to keep him around but HYJ is like “No. I’m ready to move on now. Thank you for giving me the chance to make up and thank you for taking care of me and i love you and im so proud of you.” And he tells the other HYJ to take proper care of his dongsaeng and to be there for him and past HYJ nods and thanks future HYJ for helping to mend their relationship.

And, this time, HYJ is the one who gets to smile softly as he looks at his dongsaeng for the last time.

#tsctir #the s classes that i raised #fic ideas #sacrificial wish stone au #han bro dynamics #han yoohyun #han yoojin #doting parent han yoojin #pain :(#HYJ regression #post and pre regression HYJ exist simultaneously #pre regression HYJ #post regression HYJ #tsctir au

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yersina · 2 years ago

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hi! i saw you post about suggesting prompts, what about a pov outsider on post-regression hyj? it could be from the main cast or some staff from the association, tv staffs, etc etc! feel free to go wild!

Seo Byunghoon’s first job as a newly Awakened hunter is working as the secretary for the boss of HR at Haeyeon—and, by extension, Haeyeon as a whole. It’s not the glory that most hunters imagine, but Seo Byunghoon likes his job, and he especially likes the safety that it offers. He’s a C-Rank, which means that he could probably make a fair bit of money as the lead for lower-ranked dungeon teams, but he’s fond of having his limbs where they are and not having to regularly dive into near-death experiences.

Seok Simyeong is a fair but strict supervisor, and Byunghoon quickly learns to adopt his no-nonsense attitude, especially towards the overconfident hunters that swagger in, looking for a place at Haeyeon. At least once a week, an E- or F-Rank tries to come in and talk their way into joining, and it’s almost always Byunghoon’s job to turn them away.

Today, a tired-looking man walks in and tells him, “Hey, I want to talk to Yoohyun.” Byunghoon is appalled at his informality.

“The guild leader doesn’t take appointments,” he informs the visitor, trying to keep his annoyance off of his face. Guild Leader Han Yoohyun does, technically, but certainly not for people like the man in front of him. “Do you have any other business with Haeyeon?”

The man sighs like Byunghoon is the one inconveniencing him. “I just want to talk to him, okay? He’s my—tell him Yoojin came to see him.”

Byunghoon eyes him suspiciously. “Can I see your ID?”

There’s nothing wrong with the card that the man hands over, as far as Byunghoon can tell. Han Yoojin, 23, F-Rank hunter. “Are you related to the guild leader?” he asks, eyes catching on the last name.

“Yeah, he’s my brother.” Han Yoojin doesn’t look at him as he says this, though, and scuffs a shoe on the ground. It all leaves a bad taste in Byunghoon’s mouth.

Seok Simyeong never told him about any protocol for the guild leader’s relatives—as far as Byunghoon knew, Han Yoohyun doesn’t have any relatives. Not ones that would want to visit, at least. He’s not allowed to make appointments for the guild leader on his own anyway, so he reaches for the phone and calls Seok Simyeong.

“Hello?”

“Seok Simyeong-nim, a man named Han Yoojin is here to see the guild leader.” Byunghoom doesn’t like how Han Yoojin stiffens at the sound of Seok Simyeong’s name.

A sigh rattles down the line. “Oh, him again? Just send him away. The guild leader doesn’t want to see him.”

“Understood.”

��If he comes again, you can send him away then too.”

“Yes, sir.”

Byunghoon hangs up the phone, and even before he opens his mouth, he can tell that Han Yoojin knows what he’s about to say. “Unfortunately, I cannot arrange a meeting for you right now. If you have any other business with Haeyeon, please let me know. Otherwise, we ask that you leave the premises.”

Han Yoojin’s lips thin, expression darkening. For a long moment, Byunghoon braces himself to walk around the desk and escort Han Yoojin out of the doors. It wouldn’t be the first time it’s happened, but it will be the first time that Byunghoon has felt so much grim satisfaction from doing so.

In the end, though, Han Yoojin’s mouth twists into a bitter frown and he slinks out of the building without another word. Byunghoon waits, tense, for him to change his mind and barge in again, but he doesn’t come back.

Byunghoon’s first impression of Han Yoojin is an angry, resentful man, one that he can hardly believe is related to the guild leader. Han Yoojin is weak in all the ways that Han Yoohyun is strong, and Byunghoon can understand now why the guild leader chose to cut off ties with such a person.

Unfortunately, this is not the last time he encounters the man in the next few years, and his impression only gets worse.

Byunghoon stares down at the personnel file in his hands. Han Yoojin, it’s labeled. Byunghoon never thought this day would come even in his wildest dreams. He doesn’t bother asking Seok Simyeong if he’s certain, but he indulges in a healthy amount of doubt in the privacy of his own mind.

“He’s not an official employee, but Han Yoojin-ssi will be by on Tuesday to receive his tour of Haeyeon,” Seok Simyeong is saying. “You’ll be in charge of showing him around.”

“Yes, sir.”

Byunghoon is not looking forward to this at all.

When Tuesday comes around, Byunghoon spends the morning watching the clock, tapping his fingers impatiently as the hands creep closer and closer to eleven o’clock. Perhaps Han Yoojin will not show up at all, and Byunghoon won’t have to go through this awful duty.

Right on time, though, the front doors slide open and Byunghoon raises his head to meet the hard gaze of Haeyeon’s guild leader. “Guild Leader!” He scrambles to his feet to bow properly. “I wasn’t expecting you today.”

“I have a dungeon later today, so I won’t be here for long.” Han Yoohyun turns to the person next to him, which is when Byunghoon realizes that Han Yoojin came in with him. “Hyung,” he says, and Byunghoon is shocked by how his entire stance softens. Is this really the person who refused to let Han Yoojin past the front step for three years? “I have to go. Stay here. Don’t go anywhere.”

Han Yoojin rolls his eyes. “Yah, Yoohyun-ah, I can take care of myself.”

“Still, hyung should be careful.”

Byunghoon watches in stunned confusion as Han Yoojin waves off the guild leader like a mother scolding her son to go do his homework. “Ah, Seo Byunghoon-ssi, isn’t it?” he says, turning back to Byunghoon and sketching a belated bow. “I’ll be in your hands.”

There’s something… lighter about the man now, he thinks. Han Yoojin no longer carries himself like there’s an immeasurable burden upon his back. The anger and sadness has made way for something brighter, and when combined with the gentle way the guild leader was treating his brother, Byunghoon is persuaded to hesitantly set aside his previous conception of Han Yoojin. The person in front of him is almost someone else entirely.

“Yes,” he says slowly, still rewriting his three-years-old idea of Han Yoojin. “Follow me. We can start with the training facilities.”

This is a good thing, he thinks as he leads Han Yoojin along a familiar path through the Haeyeon buildings. This new Han Yoojin has the approval of both Seok Simyeong and the guild leader, and the man himself seems much happier for it. Byunghoon’s not sure what brought this change on, but it seems like only good things have come of it so far.

Maybe this is a new era of Haeyeon, he muses, before chuckling to himself quietly. What a fanciful thought.

#anon ask #sina writes #sctir #s classes that i raised #fanfiction #i loved thinking abt this one #what does yj’s 180 personality flip look like to outsiders hahaha #the second half of this is vaguely canon but also not really bc I’m too lazy to reread the earlier chapters #weird lil side note but byunghoon probs wouldn’t call seok simyeong by his name #he’d use his title but I have no clue what ssm’s title would be (이사님???) so I just left it out lmao #the language nerd in me thinks this is v important to point out

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malewife-yoomyeongwoo · 2 years ago

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No no you are absolutely right; the way he rationalizes his behaviors and the way he acts and the things he’s willing to do are a byproduct of the circumstances he was in, the way people viewed/treated him, and how his actions affected those he cared about pre regression. People gain a sense of who they are and their identity through multiple avenues, and HYJs entire identity, prior to HYH leaving him, involved being a caretaker for HYH: he sacrificed what he could’ve had for HYH (by dropping out of school); he worked and saved money in order to make sure that HYH could go to college and live how he wanted; his favorite things to talk about involved HYH because HYH, his kid, his dongsaeng, was his whole world. Prior to the dungeons opening, HYJ had never had to act dishonestly or manipulate/take advantage of people; he never had to metaphorically climb over the bodies of other people in order to survive. He was a simple man (single dad) who was satisfied with his life the way it was cause his life had purpose and meaning (that purpose and meaning being HYH). When HYH left him, not only did was it painful (he’d been betrayed; probably felt used and abandoned), but his whole identity and purpose had been ripped from him. Who was he without HYH? He didnt have an answer.

Its “classic” (as classic as it can be with how HYH left) empty nester syndrome.

So, he’s trying hard to get back in contact with HYH —to gain some sense of what was with regards to who he was- but he’s interrupted at every attempt and denied. So, he goes to try and become a hunter. In becoming a hunter, he gained some semblance of an identity that wasnt related directly with being a caretaker for HYH, but, in that process, hed had to deal with the brutality of being publicly hated after the media destroyed his public image; he had to use his skills, skills that are meant to be used to help support the growth of other people, in order to take advantage of them for his own gain; and he had to murder people. All of these events would lead to him learning, and eventually believing, that he was a bad person (through the way people treated him and how the actions he took went against the values he probably held prior to dungeons forming). And, he learned, through his actions (cause he Knows what it means to influence a target and how he’ll benefit from their death and continues to do it at their expense) that hes someone who manipulates others into liking him and uses their death to his advantage.

Then theres the survivors guilt, and the memories transferred to him that made that guilt so much worse. So not only was he being told he was a bad person, not only did he believe it, but he also Felt that this belief was true. No doubt that lead to some form of self hate. Having to harden his heart and distance himself is something he definitely had to do like you said. Having lost so many people pre regression would actually make it make sense for why he keeps thinking, by default, the people around him are going to leave him. Pre regression, everyone hed formed some kind of bond with ended up leaving —whether on their own (HYH leaving probably left a pretty deep scar for him; something that made him feel inadequate cause no matter what he did he couldnt get his brother back) or by dying. And, due to failing to be what an older brother is for HYH (and probably because HYH surpassed him in every way), he also felt inferior.

The way he rationalizes the actions, post regression, that he sees as being what a good person would do, is as if he’s holding onto the idea that, at heart, he isnt a good person and “See! Look! Im just doing these good things in order to reap the benefits of it later. I wouldnt do good things for no reason. That’s what good people do and im not a good person. Saving YMW was cause id benefit from it! Being BYMs patron was because i didnt want others to take advantage of her naivety cause then id incur a loss.” He’s trying to hold onto the identity hed gained pre regression.

I’m not gonna say that HYJ is a saint. Hes not. But he is a caregiver at heart; it was a role that he naturally took on before his parents died and something he continued to do lovingly and happily for HYH even after theyd died; its something he continues to do as easily as he breathes post regression. There was no reason for him to grab and care for chirpie; no reason to stop the little guy from eating poisoned mana crystals but he did cause chirpie is baby shaped and hes a caregiver so he probably couldnt help himself.

And the whole “No matter how many times Yoojin insists on taking advantage of others, he inevitably finds himself looking after them.” ??? God you are so right. He really cant help being a caretaker! Its who he is! Hes got a lot of love to give! And he so desperately wants them to love him back but hes so scared of them abandoning him or dying that he prepares himself for the former and desperately tries to prevent the latter.

Due to what hed experienced pre regression, HYJ has become a caregiver who can and will do bad things if it will benefit his kids (and is kinda insane about it from an outside perspective; case in point, consider how he responds to Moon Hyuna after she talks behind HYHs back; an F rank threatening an S rank??? That’s kinda insane ngl).

His biggest problem, the thing that causes everyone around him the most grief, is that he views himself as not being someone as worthy as his kids; in his mind, his kids’ lives are more valuable. Sure, parents can feel that theyd rather die than lose their child (and HYJ is shown asking peace not to die before him when he gets kidnapped the first time in the LN), but im sure this feeling is amplified for him due to his trauma of losing HYH as well as the fact that peace is an influenced target; theres a sense of responsibility for HYJ who has, essentially, assumed care for all who he influences.

I 100% agree that his internal monologue is more due to his trauma and sense of self, pre regression, conflicting with his actual actions and him trying to rationalize it.

When it comes to STW and SHJ, while he does grow to cherish them, i feel like this happened a lot more naturally/gradually than it did with people he applied his keyword to. Also, the way he interacts with them is less like a caretaker and more like people of equal standing. I havent read the MTL of the story yet, but from what I recall of the LN so far, he hasnt gone out of his way to protect either of them from harm at his own expense the way hes done with YMW (the loan shark guild and then he tries again in the golden forge to protect YMW from the flames of the elemental), BYM (being her patron and going out of his way to tie up loose ends with her uncle), and HYH (spoilers: acting as bait and letting himself get taken by the guild leader that HYH couldnt win against).

The way he interacts with those hes influenced is as if hes the one in charge (in the parental kinda way; tho his dynamic with YMW is changing but idk how much of this is cause YMW is essentially “leaving the nest” or cause YMW never had a caretaker to see HYJ as) who has to take responsibility for them and the actions he took for their sake (only knowing them for less than 2 months at the time) do not seem like actions he wouldve taken for SHJ or STW within 2 months of meeting them.

So, what im trying to imply by saying the caretaker skill goes both ways is that, even if HYJ is unaware of it, hes just as severe with his influenced targets when it comes to their wellbeing as they are for him despite the fact that he hadn’t known them for long (just as it influenced them to trust him readily, its influenced him to readily care for them). This doesn’t mean that he cant form bonds with others in more natural ways (like with STW and SHJ) or be nurturing with them as well.

You could argue that he doesnt Need to go that far for STW and SHJ cause theyre adults that can easily handle themselves in ways that YMW and BYK cant really (YMW cause he was also f rank and BYM cause shes a minor with less experience). But HYH, though still young, does have the strength to handle himself and has experience that BYM doesnt have. HYJ also knows that HYH can handle himself cause, pre regression, thats what HYH does. But, HYJ still goes above and beyond for HYH (an influenced target) in a way that he doesnt for STW or SHJ (though that could also be in part due to his trauma of losing HYH).

You’re right that HYJ frets over STW in that way, and I rationalize that as being something he does cause his Nature is that of a caretaker. But i feel like him putting himself in danger here was more related to that fact that he didnt really see that he was in danger by taking these actions (L rank fear resistance can make dangerous situations not seem that way) or he didnt value his safety enough to prioritize it over his need to be nurturing towards those he cares about (due to his low sense of self worth).

He’s the kind of person who, whether for an influenced target or not, would lean towards caring for the people he cares about. Hes just more reckless about it much more quickly when it comes to his influenced targets. Hes still reckless with non influenced targets, but its only after he cares about them that hes like that, and thats where the low self worth comes into play. He doesnt value his safety and well being so he does things to care for others even if it means he’s putting himself in harms way (like with STW who likes to bite).

Youre right when you say that HYJ is an unreliable narrator that doesnt understand his own feelings. He tries so hard to convince us that he doesnt care, but his actions are very good at showing us the reality of the situation (just like with the situation with SHJ and him smiling). I also agree that its him trying to distance himself cause its something he had to do to survive pre regression.

HYJ is a morally grey character who gives back what hes given without remorse and thinks that hes a bad person. But…

“At his core Han Yoojin is a genuinely caring person who’s include to look after others. He wouldn’t have gotten the title Perfect Caretaker otherwise.” Yea! He is! At his core that’s exactly what he is and thats exactly it. People can gain optimize skills based on things they have an aptitude for rather than just gaining non-optimized combat related skills due to the circumstances of their awakening. HYJ has stated in the LN that didnt awaken due to the awakening brokers he we went to but awakened due to something else (i dont remember what exactly ended up doing it so feel free to correct me if im wrong). So he must’ve awakened as a caregiver cause that was what his natural aptitude was for, and, most of the skills he gains are supportive in nature. He literally cant be anything other than what he is. Hes just not aware of the fact that him getting the “Perfect Caregiver” isnt just cause HYH accepted him as a caregiver but because its in his very nature to be one.

I need to talk about an idea i’ve had for a while regarding Yoojin’s title “Perfect Caregiver”.

As we all know, its a skill that influences its target so that they see HYJ as their caregiver (the LN states that it makes their target associate HYJ with someone they see as a caregiver in their mind, but, if there is none they associate as a caregiver, they just see HYJ as HYJ). Its described as a one way influence, However, I’m starting to think that this skill goes both ways; that it affects HYJ just as much as it affects his target.

Despite intending to use his targets for his personal gain, HYJ ends up, again and again, acting as a proper caregiver for them and, instead of chaining his targets to him in order to reap the fruits of his labor, lets them have the freedom they need to leave if that’s what they desire (he lets YMW do his own thing rather than forcing him to be stuck with him after gaining is SS class skill and he, instead of taking advantage of the contract with BYM, makes sure to make a contract that is fair). We all know that HYJ isn’t above manipulation and murder, so using people or chaining them to him for his benefit wouldn’t be so unusual, but, when it comes to his influenced targets, he just. Doesnt.

Not only does he properly take care of them —he goes above and beyond for them and gets angry when anyone harms them and will, usually, get revenge on their behalf (consider how he handled the guild that forced YMW into an unsavory contract and the fact that he became BYM’s guardian so people wouldn’t take advantage of her). He even feels bad about the idea of taking advantage of them as he’d originally planned. Sure it could be argued that he started to actually care for them, but, based on the amount of time that had passed, it hadn’t been very long before YMW and BYM got to the point where he could start benefiting from them. It wasnt long enough for him to form a deep connection that would warrant him “risking his life” for YMW (when he saved YMW from that loan shark guild) or personally dealing with BYM’s uncle (as he does in the LN).

He rationalizes his behavior as being the thing that would benefit him the most, but its easy to come up with a logical reason to explain why youre doing something; its much harder to uncover the real thing thats motivating one to act a certain way. He’s acting, for their benefit, before he has the chance to rationalize his actions.

He’s soft with his targets in a way that a proper caregiver would be: even though it annoys him how clingy they get with him, he handles it like a parent who’s kids want his attention and handles it in ways that a parent would (in the LN, when YMW and BYM first meet, he says something along the lines of “i like people who diligently do their work” when theyre arguing about who HYJ likes more instead of giving them a proper answer). He doesn’t get mad at them or show his annoyance towards their clinginess. It could be cause of guilt he feels about it (the LN explains that he lets HYH’s extreme behavior go because its only worse cause of his skill), but he was letting HYH be extreme without making a big fuss about it or getting mad at him about it even before he’d realized that it was due to his skill (he did try to escape but he hadnt been harsh with HYH).

To further emphasize this point, consider his whole interaction with blackie/inky. He spent 30min bonding with this salamander monster and applied the keyword on it. Normally, one would be sad about an animal they bonded with dying on their behalf, but, not only did HYJ try to fight so that they wouldnt have to die, he expected that blackie/inky would most likely die and still tried to make it so that they wouldnt have to die when he could’ve just waited to take advantage of final gratitude rather than getting in harms way. When blackie/inky died, he was already regretting the fact that theyd passed, but became even more distraught after receiving their memories saying that “(final gratitude) it really was a skill that shouldnt be used”. Blackie/inky had felt affection towards HYJ and HYJ felt the affection towards blackie/inky as a caretaker would.

Of course, HYJ didnt let the guy that killed blackie/inky live peacefully or die without pain.

So, my theory is that the “Caregiver” title makes it so that HYJ genuinely starts caring for his targets the way a caregiver would once its target has been influenced. HYJ doesnt think or seem to know about his skill affecting him so that he ends up genuinely caring for his targets, but, again and again, even for targets he’s only recently acquired (spoilers: Noah) he ends up being really soft and yielding towards their needs. He’s like a parent who gives in when their kid begs for candy.

HYJ is no doubt self centered and manipulative; but he really puts in the effort for his kids (whether he realizes it or not). It’s in his nature to be a caregiver (not a lot of people would drop out of school to work and support their younger siblings education). Being a caretaker is all he knows and, really, its all he truly wants (he’s at his happiest when hes able to live peacefully with his kids). Whenever he has the chance to talk about his kids, he does so lavishly with unending praise and affection. He automatically likes people who speak well of his kids and actively dislikes anyone who speaks ill of them. His kids are his entire world.

He laments over the fact that monsters arent allowed outside after seeing how happy peace is to be out of his room and in the bigger training area, and actively lets peace play to his hearts content. He plays with a rope in a tug of war game with peace cause its what peace wants to do even though its the most tiring thing for him (to the point where he needs to wear a lot of gear in order to play with peace in this game) and thinks “if you like it, so what if its a little tiring”.

This is coming from the guy who constantly talks about living the rest of his days in a lazy fashion without much work involved. He also is shown thinking, in the LN, about getting things for HYH cause HYH might like them or cause they might help his dongsaeng.

Even his skills are all centered around being supportive in nature. And who is he supposed to be supporting? His kids of course. He laments not having any offensive skills, but its literally in his nature to support others and care for them. You could also look at is as his caregiver title influencing the types of skills he gains so that he can use them to support his kids.

At his core, he’s a doting parent who loves being able to support his kids, so the caregiver title just increases the potency of that, as well as creates a fast pass, for those he ends up influencing.

I think theres something to be said about titles and skills and how they relate to one’s nature or personality but this is what i got for now.

#han yoojin #the s classes that i raised #tsctir #character study #doting parent han yoojin #fic ideas #you! you get it #thank you for your big brain takes #this was v fun to read and respond to #my ramblings

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yersina · 2 years ago

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Oh 100%!!! Honestly, I think the angle of trying to protect hyj probably wouldn’t even occur to shj because it’s… just that nonsensical?? (I’m sorry yoohyun, I get it but I don’t have to like it) So to him it’s like, hyh is just incandescently angry at shj whenever they see each other for no discernible reason, which I’m p sure shj would find really funny lmao. (On the other hand tho, you’re right, hyh would be sooooo furious bc shj is a physical reminder of everything he can’t do. And he can’t even fight the dude bc yj would be mad at him abt it, so he’s stuck in this impossible impasse until he either figures his shit out or is miserable forever. Fun times! :D )

I didn’t even consider the pre/post regression implications!! Pre reg is great and that’s where most of my story is, but oh god post reg hhhhhhhhrrrrggdbdhffkdbh like yj lands five years in the past and his first thought is for yoohyun but his second is for shj—where are they? Are they safe? I think according to the timeline I laid out hyj is already awakened by the time the regression happens? So I imagine that hjyj are still in the trust building part of getting to know each other, and naturally shj Immediately knows that smth happened because he is Perceptive As Fuck™️. So hyj is grappling w reacquainting himself w this younger version of his guild leader while shj is subtly-but-not-subtly trying to figure out wtf happened to his hyj

Hello hi I am normal about this plot bunny yes.

Just came across a half-written sctir snippet that I completely and utterly forgot existed in my notes app???

One of the basic principles of business is that if your competitors are too stupid to recognize their own assets, take them.

Sung Hyunjae trusts Choi Mingi to tell him the truth when he says that Han Yoojin works at the Starbucks that’s a half hour drive from their guild building, but he doesn’t quite believe him until he walks in and sees Han Yoohyun’s brother working behind the counter.

“Han Yoojin,” he greets, walking up to the counter. Yoojin immediately stiffens, eyeing Hyunjae suspiciously.

“If you want to talk to me because of Yoohyun, I’m not making any statements,” he says gruffly, stiff but rehearsed. Pity.

“Why, Yoojin-ssi, I just want to talk to you for your own sake,” he says, giving Yoojin a flawless smile. Yoojin sputters delightfully at that, but in the end, he doesn’t look any less suspicious than before.

Cannot stop thinking abt the possibility of pre-reg seseong hyj

shj is very bastard and would have absolutely no qualms w poaching yj if he wanted to

Which he does

Cause, like, awakening definitely isn’t genetic or anything, but the very glaringly obvious media black hole around hyj is, well, obvious, and shj has never met a sore spot that he hasn’t wanted to push

So he wanders over to wherever hyj is working at the time and shamelessly tries to poach the unawakened brother of his largest rival guild

Hyj doesn’t really understand what’s going on other than that shj is holding up the line, but this is the most anyone has ever spoken to him about dungeons and awakening since yh waltzed out of his life, so he’s reluctantly but understandably intrigued

One thing leads to another, and hyj agrees to let Seseong sponsor his awakening

(yes, hyj is aware that this means he’ll join seseong afterwards. no, he’s not thinking abt hyh during all of this. he’s NOT. really. definitely. yeah.)

i have a lot of thoughts and headcanons around what exactly hyj’s stats and skills would be outside of canon circumstances, but for the sake of this verse, i’m gonna put him at stat b, skill a rank—exceptional, but not too abnormally so

and like, the familiar raising skill is impressive, but at an a level it’s not earth-shatteringly amazing, you know? the only person that would really benefit from it is ksy, so shj puts that idea on the back burner

but you know what DOES catch his attention? the teacher skill

so he starts dragging yj on every single dungeon clearing opportunity to build up his familiarity with the skill and push his limits so he can use it to its fullest extent

also. yknow when ksh (i think?) was describing why he and the rest of haeyeon are loyal to yh? and how there’s a certain level of dedication and admiration born from following someone into danger and being able to follow them right back out?

yeah. y e a h.

like, hyh is his brother, and hyj is never ever ever going to forget that. ever. he raised that boy with his own two hands and hyj loves him to the ends of the earth even if they haven’t said a single word to each other in two years

but shj is his guild leader

#sina rambles #sctir #I’m not even gonna get into the regression event itself and how that’s gonna happen in this verse #the pre reg media probably tries to spin the whole thing into a sibling rivalry which hyh Hates #also: ooh asks!! exciting ^^

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