#polymnia worship

[songofapollon]

The Muses

Lord Apollon is often referred to as the Leader of the Mused, and depicted with Them, and I’d like to honor Them as well as Him with introducing Them!

The Muses

There are 3 sets of Mousai (Muses)

- The Mousai Titanides, 3 or 4 elder Muses, children of Ouranos and Gaia

- The 9 Olympian Mousai, the ones I’m mostly talking about in this post

- The Mousai Apollonides, 3 daughters of Apollon

The 9 Muses are goddesses of music, song, dance, knowledge, and inspiration. They are children of Zeus and Mnemosyne.

The Muses are Kalliope (epic poetry), Kleio (history), Euterpe (lyric poetry), Melopmene (tragedy), Terpsichore (choral dance and song), Erato (Erotic poetry), Polymnia (sublime hymn), Ourania (astronomy), and Thalia (comedy).

[diana-thyme]

Greek Gods 101: A Masterlist

This is a masterlist of the “Greek Gods 101” series. This series aims to provide basic information and worship ideas for both major and minor deities. This masterlist also involves heroes, deified mortals, spirits, and other figures of Greek mythology.

Aceso

Acheron

Acratos

Aedos

Aegle

Aeolus

Aether

Aglaea

Akhlys

Ampelus

Amphitrite

Ananke

Anemoi

Angelia

Anteros

Antheia

Aphrodite

Apollon

Aporia

Ares

Arete

Ariadne

Aristaeus

Artemis

Asklepios

Asteria

Astraeus

Astrape

Athena

Atlas

Bia

Britomartis

Calliope

Carpi

Cassandra

Ceraon

Cerberus

Ceto

Chaos

Charon

Chione

Chiron

Chloris

Chrysos

Circe

Clio

Clymene

Comus

Cratus

Cronos

Daphne

Deimus

Deipneus

Demeter

Dicaeosyne

Dike

Dionysus

Dysnomia

Ececheria

Eileithyia

Eirene

Ekho

Electryone

Eleos

Elpis

Endymion

Enyo

Eos

Epiales

Epione

Epiphron

Erato

Erebus

Eris

Eros

Ersa

Eucleia

Eudaemonia

Eunomia

Eupheme

Euphrosyne

Euporia

Eupraxia

Eurybia

Eurydice

Eusebia

Euterpe

Euthenia

Eutychia

Fates

Furies

Gaea

Galateia

Ganymedes

Gelus

Hades

Harmonia

Harpocrates

Hebe

Hecate

Hedone

Hedylogus

Helius

Hemera

Hephaestus

Hera

Heracles

Hermaphroditus

Hermes

Hestia

Hesychia

Himeros

Homonoia

Horae (Seasons)

Horae (Time)

Hormes

Hybris

Hydros

Hygieia

Hymenaeus

Hypnus

Iaso

Iris

Lelantus

Lethe

Leto

Macaria

Matton

Medusa

Melinoe

Melpomene

Methe

Mnemosyne

Morpheus

Nemesis

Nike

Nyx

Oizys

Orpheus

Orthannes

Ossa

Ourania

Ouranos

Ourea

Paeon

Paidia

Palaemon

Pallas

Pan

Panacea

Pandaisia

Pandora

Pannychis

Panopia

Paregoros

Pasithea

Pegasus

Peitho

Penia

Penthus

Persephone

Perses

Perseus

Phales

Phanes

Phaunus

Pheme

Philophrosyne

Philotes

Phobus

Phoebe

Phorcys

Phthonus

Phusis

Pistis

Plutus

Poena

Polemus

Polymnia

Pompe

Pontus

Ponus

Porus

Poseidon

Pothus

Priapus

Prometheus

Pronoea

Prophesis

Psamathe

Pseudologoi

Psyche

Ptocheia

Rhea

Selene

Silenos

Sophrosyne

Soter

Soteria

Styx

Tartarus

Telesphorus

Terpsichore

Tethys

Thalassa

Thalia (Mousai)

Thalia

Thallo

Thanatus

Thaumas

Thea

Themis

Theseus

Thesis

Thrasus

Thyone

Tithonus

Triptolemus

Triton

Tritopatores

Tyche

Tychon

Urania

Uranus

Zagreus

Zelus

Zeus

What is a “Universal Offering/Devotional Act?”

Feel free to request or suggest deities! This list will be done in order but you can ask for me to complete one that’s further down the list.

This list is subject to change. There are probably repeat deities (deities who go by multiple names, parts of groups like the Horae or Charities who are mostly grouped together, etc.) on this list. Some deities are not on here. Some names are spelt wrong or different.

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[superkooku]

Thank you for the tag 😛

So here's my opinion on the subject :

For starters, your story is fundamentally different from Greek mythology.

There is that Disney™ charm and innocence that, while perfectly fitting the story, is completely absent from the myths, that aim for more epic, tragic stories, or for allegoric representations of real life.

So it's already very difficult to compare. I did find some stuff, though.

1. Aster as Orpheus

(though I agree that both love their wives immensely and would do anything to protect them)

Aster as "Epic the musical" Odysseus ? Maybe. Jay made him a bit more conventionally heroic than in the myths. Odysseus is a hardened soldier, whose body count is pretty high (especially with a whole lot of suitors and dead Trojans).

I don't want to try babying Aster, ofc, especially since he matured, but he's still softer than Odysseus.

(and thank you for making me picture Aster doxxing himself to Polyphemus 😂)

Orpheus is a way better pick, especially since Aster is a musician in your human alternative universe. And Aster seems to love music.

Plus Orpheus is the student (and sometimes son) of Apollo. Apollo is the god of many things, including music, medicine, arts and the sun*.

With Aster being a star (and befriending the sun), it's even better.

*Helios is the main sun god. It's more secondary for Apollo.

Fun fact : Orpheus' voice is stronger than the sirens'

Fun fact n°2 : his voice is so enchanting than even the wildest beasts calm down and listen to him. Heck, even the trees are charmed ! Reminds me of Aster's magic.

Though it's clear that whatever death Aster has is way happier than Orpheus'... just make sure he doesn't come across crazy women in the woods and normally he's safe 😂.

Fortunately, after Orpheus died, his soul was reunited with Eurydice's.

2. KOW!Asha as Antigone

Medea isn't that bad of an idea, honestly. But I also have another pick : Antigone.

Again, let's ignore the unhappy ending.

Antigone : she fought with her king/Uncle Creon and was deeply against injustice, though for wildly different reasons. She was so determined that she was ready to die (and did) for her values.

She was a courageous young girl.

Other potential candidates

+ The muses : goddesses of the arts, who inspired heroes. There isn't a muse of drawing, but if I had to pick one : Polymnia. She's the muse of rhetoric and poetry.

And I wouldn't really compare her to Ariadne. Though it would be neat to mention that Dionysus offers her a crown of stars as a wedding gift.

3. KOW!Magnifico as king Pygmalion or Tantalus

Thank you anon for precising "DISNEY" Hades. In the mythology, they don't match at all.

Hades is the rightful lord of the underworld (even Elysium, which is kinda like an ancient Greek heaven).

He does his job very well and never tried to kill his brothers.

Which king did Magnus resemble more ?

King Pygmalion, not to be confused with the sculptor who fell in love with his creation.

Like Magnus, he was power hungry and murdered his uncle and his sister's (Dido) husband. He then steals all their riches and Dido's forced to run away.

Ngl, I had to dig pretty deep to find this one. More well-known kings are either not evil (like Odysseus, Midas), or ambiguous (Minos, Agamemnon).

The only really "evil" kings are Cronus and Tantalus. The latter is more interesting because, according to Ovid, he murders his own son and, out of hubris, serves him as a meal to the gods in order to test their omniscience.

Greek authors find other reasons for his punishment, but he always ends up in Tartarus.

(and no, Zeus isn't an evil king 😅. He did some... more than debatable stuff, but he was worshipped as a god of justice and he is also the rightful king. So, yeah)

And Creon, who I mentioned earlier, isn't an evil king.

4. KOW!Amaya as Medea

You already mentioned her, so I'll keep it short.

Though Medea isn't as evil as Amaya, I can see the inspiration in KOW (especially in her earlier life).

Then there's what I told you earlier about the cursed necklace of Harmonia.

Also, obvious similarities: they're both powerful witches who fled their kingdoms.

(and both aren't in good terms with kids...)

And Jason abandoning her for someone else, except his new wife is actually innocent and a victim of Medea's rage. While Harmona admittedly deserved at least some punishment.

Other picks :

+ Circe : another witch who, ultimately, isn't as evil. If we count Ovid, she changed Scylla into a monster because she loved the god Glaucus (who in return loved Scylla).

If we don't, she doesn't fit as much.

+ Queen Ino : tried to kill Athamas' children after marrying him. Queen Ino's the first evil stepmother 😂. Before Lady Tremaine and the evil queen, we had Ino.

(well, the second bitter stepmother, if we count Hera. But she's not an evil queen.)

Ino also had her fair share of suffering, mainly because she took care of her nephew Dionysus. And Hera didn't like it very much.

Bonus point : Typhon and Echidna

The only thing close to an "evil couple" in Greek mythology.

They gave birth to many monsters and Typhon almost defeated the Olympians, thus taking over the Earth. But Zeus defeated him and now he's in Tartarus.

All in all

I struggled a bit, ngl. Greek mythology is fascinating to study, but because 90% of its characters are morally nuanced, it doesn't fit the Disney tone.

(That didn't stop them from making Hercules. I won't complain, since I really liked that inaccurate movie).

But here's my answer.

I reread the backstory of the villains and at the end you mentioned that Amaya is Persephone and Magnifico is Hades (from Disney). I was wondering which of the ancient Greek gods (or other characters from Greek mythology) do you associate Asha and Aster with?

So I kept looking for greek love stories with happy endings... And as ya'll can imagine that's a pointless endeavor, most are tragedies, and the few happy ones we do have don't fit with Asha and Aster.

So instead I decided to just pick greek characters that remind me of Asha and Aster, regardless of who those loved.

I'd say Asha reminds me most to Medea

Now hear me out, I know what you're thinking (If you're familiar with her myth)

"But Anny! Medea killed people!"

Yeah yeah I know, that's not what gives me Asha vibes in her, quick summary for those who don't know:

Medea was a princess, that fell in love with a "hero" named Jason

(She only fell in love with him because Hera made her fall in love with him, so she would help him survive the many trials her father was putting him through, Jason was like Hera's champion, that's why she gave him this lil intervention)

So Jason took Medea home with him, after she literally saved his life, and they had two kids together. But later, Jason decided he wanted to marry another princess, like, one still in power instead of Medea that was a run away princess.

Medea obviously got furious that her husband would marry someone else just for the perks. But she didn't just sit down and took it like many other maidens in greek mythology would, nuh-uh, she started plotting her revenge.

She elaborated a plan to kill both their kids and Jason's new girlfriend, through clever scheming and also potions- because did I mention she makes potions? Yeah turns out Medea was also a big inspiration for me when writing Amaya, she's kinda my favorite girl in greek mythology.

So WHY does she reminds me of Asha? Well simple, Asha stood up against injustice and did everything she possibly could to outwit the villains and had plenty of moments where her quick thinking saved her by a hair (Flashback to the climax of Kingdom of Wishes). Asha plans things out and speaks her mind, she and Medea are both strong, not physically, but in their wit.

I guess I could also compare her to Ariadne since she was also clever by helping Theseus escape the minotaur labyrinth, buuuuut Ariadne isn't as cool as Medea, like come on, at the end of the classical stage play she RIDES HELIOS FLYING CHARIOT LIKE A FREAKIN GODDESS JUST TO TAUNT JASON!!! SAYING SHE TOOK EVERYTHING FROM HIM!!! THEN SHE PROPHESIZES HE'LL DIE ALONE!!!! AND THAT THE GODS ARE ON HER SIDE!!! BECAUSE HES A LYING LIL OATH BREAKER!!!

Anyway, it gives me the vibes of Asha flying on her hand drawn flying carpet to defeat Magnifico and Amaya, and then saying "No one believes your lies anymore" while they're being turned into stone, she's just a badass like that.

As for Aster, maybe it's the Epic: The Musical fan in me talking, but eh, Odyseus.

Simply because I can totally see Aster going through hell and back to find Asha, the same way Odyseus did for Penelope, and also because I can see him being dumb enough to give his full name and address to a cyclops he just blinded. But as more and more shenanigans happen (And by that I mean most of his army freaking dying) he becomes more willing to be more ruthless for the sake of his men that are left and so they can go back home, similar to how Aster matured and even got a lil sadistic in the end there when he decided to turn the villains into stone.

Alternatively, I could also let the Hadestown fan in me win and say he reminds me of Orpheus, but that makes me too sad, considering what happens to Orpheus and Eurydice in the end. Let's say if you cut Orpheus turning to look back, yeah that relationship is very Aster and Asha vibes.

@superkooku you like greek mythology right? Do you have other ideas?

[alexandreaiteiaabronia]

Mythology

Early life

According to Apollodorus and a fragment of Pindar, Orpheus' father was Oeagrus, a Thracian king, or, according to another version of the story, the god Apollo. His mother was (1) the muse Calliope, (2) her sister Polymnia, (3) a daughter of Pierus, son of Makednos or (4) lastly of Menippe, daughter of Thamyris. According to Tzetzes, he was from Bisaltia. His birthplace and place of residence was Pimpleia close to the Olympus. Strabo mentions that he lived in Pimpleia. According to the epic poem Argonautica, Pimpleia was the location of Oeagrus' and Calliope's wedding. While living with his mother and her eight beautiful sisters in Parnassus, he met Apollo, who was courting the laughing muse Thalia. Apollo, as the god of music, gave Orpheus a golden lyre and taught him to play it. Orpheus' mother taught him to make verses for singing. He is also said to have studied in Egypt.

Orpheus is said to have established the worship of Hecate in Aegina. In Laconia Orpheus is said to have brought the worship of Demeter Chthonia and that of the Κόρες Σωτείρας (Kóres Sōteíras; 'Saviour Maidens'). Also in Taygetos a wooden image of Orpheus was said to have been kept by Pelasgians in the sanctuary of the Eleusinian Demeter.

According to Diodorus Siculus, Musaeus of Athens was the son of Orpheus.

Adventure as an Argonaut

Main article: Argonautica

The Argonautica (Ἀργοναυτικά) is a Greek epic poem written by Apollonius Rhodius in the 3rd century BC. Orpheus took part in this adventure and used his skills to aid his companions. Chiron told Jason that without the aid of Orpheus, the Argonauts would never be able to pass the Sirens—the same Sirens encountered by Odysseus in Homer's epic poem the Odyssey. The Sirens lived on three small, rocky islands called Sirenum scopuli and sang beautiful songs that enticed sailors to come to them, which resulted in the crashing of their ships into the islands. When Orpheus heard their voices, he drew his lyre and played music that was louder and more beautiful, drowning out the Sirens' bewitching songs. According to 3rd century BC Hellenistic elegiac poet Phanocles, Orpheus loved the young Argonaut Calais, "the son of Boreas, with all his heart, and went often in shaded groves still singing of his desire, nor was his heart at rest. But always, sleepless cares wasted his spirits as he looked at fresh Calais."

Death of Eurydice

The most famous story in which Orpheus figures is that of his wife Eurydice (sometimes referred to as Euridice and also known as Argiope). While walking among her people, the Cicones, in tall grass at her wedding, Eurydice was set upon by a satyr. In her efforts to escape the satyr, Eurydice fell into a nest of vipers and suffered a fatal bite on her heel. Her body was discovered by Orpheus who, overcome with grief, played such sad and mournful songs that all the nymphs and gods wept. On their advice, Orpheus traveled to the underworld. His music softened the hearts of Hades and Persephone, who agreed to allow Eurydice to return with him to earth on one condition: he should walk in front of her and not look back until they both had reached the upper world. Orpheus set off with Eurydice following; however, as soon as he had reached the upper world, he immediately turned to look at her, forgetting in his eagerness that both of them needed to be in the upper world for the condition to be met. As Eurydice had not yet crossed into the upper world, she vanished for the second time, this time forever.

The story in this form belongs to the time of Virgil, who first introduces the name of Aristaeus (by the time of Virgil's Georgics, the myth has Aristaeus chasing Eurydice when she was bitten by a serpent) and the tragic outcome. Other ancient writers, however, speak of Orpheus' visit to the underworld in a more negative light; according to Phaedrus in Plato's Symposium, the infernal gods only "presented an apparition" of Eurydice to him. In fact, Plato's representation of Orpheus is that of a coward, as instead of choosing to die in order to be with the one he loved, he instead mocked the gods by trying to go to Hades to bring her back alive. Since his love was not "true"—he did not want to die for love—he was actually punished by the gods, first by giving him only the apparition of his former wife in the underworld, and then by being killed by women. In Ovid's account, however, Eurydice's death by a snake bite is incurred while she was dancing with naiads on her wedding day.

Virgil wrote in his poem that Dryads wept from Epirus and Hebrus up to the land of the Getae (north east Danube valley) and even describes him wandering into Hyperborea and Tanais (ancient Greek city in the Don river delta) due to his grief.

The story of Eurydice may actually be a late addition to the Orpheus myths. In particular, the name Eurudike ("she whose justice extends widely") recalls cult-titles attached to Persephone. According to the theories of poet Robert Graves, the myth may have been derived from another Orpheus legend, in which he travels to Tartarus and charms the goddess Hecate.

The myth theme of not looking back, an essential precaution in Jason's raising of chthonic Brimo Hekate under Medea's guidance, is reflected in the Biblical story of Lot's wife when escaping from Sodom. More directly, the story of Orpheus is similar to the ancient Greek tales of Persephone captured by Hades and similar stories of Adonis captive in the underworld. However, the developed form of the Orpheus myth was entwined with the Orphic mystery cults and, later in Rome, with the development of Mithraism and the cult of Sol Invictus.

Death

According to a Late Antique summary of Aeschylus' lost play Bassarids, Orpheus, towards the end of his life, disdained the worship of all gods except the sun, whom he called Apollo. One early morning he went to the oracle of Dionysus at Mount Pangaion to salute his god at dawn, but was ripped to shreds by Thracian Maenads for not honoring his previous patron (Dionysus) and was buried in Pieria. Here his death is analogous with that of Pentheus, who was also torn to pieces by Maenads; and it has been speculated that the Orphic mystery cult regarded Orpheus as a parallel figure to or even an incarnation of Dionysus. Both made similar journeys into Hades, and Dionysus-Zagreus suffered an identical death. Pausanias writes that Orpheus was buried in Dion and that he met his death there. He writes that the river Helicon sank underground when the women that killed Orpheus tried to wash off their blood-stained hands in its waters. Other legends claim that Orpheus became a follower of Dionysus and spread his cult across the land. In this version of the legend, it is said that Orpheus was torn to shreds by the women of Thrace for his inattention.

Ovid recounts that Orpheus ...

had abstained from the love of women, either because things ended badly for him, or because he had sworn to do so. Yet, many felt a desire to be joined with the poet, and many grieved at rejection. Indeed, he was the first of the Thracian people to transfer his affection to young boys and enjoy their brief springtime, and early flowering this side of manhood.

— Ovid. trans. A. S. Kline, Ovid: The Metamorphoses, Book X

Feeling spurned by Orpheus for taking only male lovers (eromenoi), the Ciconian women, followers of Dionysus, first threw sticks and stones at him as he played, but his music was so beautiful even the rocks and branches refused to hit him. Enraged, the women tore him to pieces during the frenzy of their Bacchic orgies. In Albrecht Dürer's drawing of Orpheus' death, based on an original, now lost, by Andrea Mantegna, a ribbon high in the tree above him is lettered Orfeus der erst puseran ("Orpheus, the first pederast").

His head and lyre, still singing mournful songs, floated down the River Hebrus into the sea, after which the winds and waves carried them to the island of Lesbos, at the city of Methymna; there, the inhabitants buried his head and a shrine was built in his honour near Antissa; there his oracle prophesied, until it was silenced by Apollo. In addition to the people of Lesbos, Greeks from Ionia and Aetolia consulted the oracle, and his reputation spread as far as Babylon.

Cave of Orpheus' oracle in Antissa, Lesbos

Orpheus' lyre was carried to heaven by the Muses, and was placed among the stars. The Muses also gathered up the fragments of his body and buried them at Leibethra below Mount Olympus, where the nightingales sang over his grave. After the river Sys flooded

Leibethra, the Macedonians took his bones to Dion. Orpheus' soul returned to the underworld, to the fields of the Blessed, where he was reunited at last with his beloved Eurydice.

Another legend places his tomb at Dion, near Pydna in Macedon. In another version of the myth, Orpheus travels to Aornum in Thesprotia, Epirus to an old oracle for the dead. In the end Orpheus commits suicide from his grief unable to find Eurydice.

"Others said that he was the victim of a thunderbolt."

From Wikipedia

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Orpheus the musician & beast tamer.

Art by Brittany Beverung @artistfuly

[winebrightruby]

planetary attributions of the Muses

I had a theory a while back that, if all things fall under the influence of the planets and their spheres, the Muses could be similarly categorized, perhaps even approached as intermediaries or embassies of their respective planetary rulers.

Why the Muses, you ask? I’ve been exploring some wider, more applicable branches (? terminology?) of magic, and before jumping into “develop strong relationships with spirits who will help you magic!”, I figured I should explore the spirits and deities with whom I’ve already developed strong relationships through worship and offerings. If the Muses did indeed hold some type of planetary sway, I could extend my worship of them into invocation during planetary workings as well as other spellwork.

There are 9 Olympian Muses and 7 classical astrological planets. I assumed going in that either the two luminaries (sun and moon) or the Greater Benefic and Malefic (Jupiter and Saturn) would have two representatives. It became clear pretty quickly that it was the planets, not the luminaries, that had two Muses.

I ran through several weeks of offerings, divination, and experiments evoking the relevant (I thought) Muses on particular days or for particular workings. I made several (or many) changes to the list throughout these workings. I don’t know if this list is universally true or, frankly, if it’s even relevant to anyone but me. But here’s what I’ve come up with in terms of planetary rulerships of the nine Olympian Muses:

Sun: Calliope, eldest sister, muse of eloquence and prestige, tutor of princes Moon: Ourania, muse of astronomy, science, and mystery, heavenly singer Mars: Terpsichore, muse of dance, who expresses her every feeling in her body Mercury: Euterpe, singer of lyric poetry, she who delights in infinite variety Jupiter: Thaleia, joy and mirth and abundance; and Polymnia, singer of sacred songs, dignity of religious service and authority Venus: Erato, beloved, Aphrodite’s handmaiden Saturn: Melpomene, Thaleia’s mirror, muse of tragedy and catharsis; and Kleio, historian, who tells every story that we might remember their lessons

There’s still so much potential to explore, but I feel like I have a solid foundation to build on.