#poddkhao bl boys love

[scrumptiousstuffs]

Previous anon here - sorry but I don't like cp culture and even then I wanted First to be in a cp with Gawin. They were something else.

It seems to me you are contradicting yourself here?

You don’t like CP culture. But then mention you wanted First to be partnered with Gawin in a CP. And your previous asked alluded Khaotung is being held back artistically because of his CP with First. So, I’m not sure where you stand.

Nevertheless, you are of course free to like and dislikes whoever you want. You are also free to dislike the whole CP culture. However, it is here to stay because that’s how the Thai BL industry currently works, and perhaps this might change in the future where BL actors can partner and act with whoever they want. I mentioned in a previous asked, this is rare cause of how rooted CPs and their fandoms are in the Thai BL industry and ultimately, this is a business for both the company (and the boys).

And if you are going to be dealing with the industry long-term, I reckon it’s better for the individuals in any CPs to find someone they have faith and trust in (like what FK have for each other).

Also, I have always thought of CP like the golden era of Hollywood (although not as restrictive) - I’m talking the 1930s to 1940s era; where a M/F couple is often paired multiple times by their studios for different movies because of their on-screen chemistry and to capitalise their popularity. And it takes Hollywood years to go beyond that, where actors/actresses are now free to partner with whoever they want provided they pass the audition process. Thai BL (and BL as a genre) is still in its infancy. I don’t see the CP thing going away anytime soon.

As for First/Gawin as partnership, there is no doubt these boys can make chemistry with any boys thrown to them (in fact, I will believe it if FK say they are in love with a rock, to be honest) - First/Gawin certainly make a beautiful pairing on-screen. But off screen, Gawin has already moved on with Josh (for the upcoming vampire series) and well, First has never been shy with how possessive he is of Khaotung’s time and attention (the boy was happily third wheeling with every single event his bestie went with Podd during the PoddKhao era).

So, I just don’t see them “breaking up” unless it’s what both FK mutually agreed to do so. And for now, I just don’t see it happening.

[talkingbl]

The Good and Bad of Tonhon Chonlatee

SPOILER WARNING. TW: rape, sexual assault, sexual harassment

The Good:

Characterization of supporting characters (especially Na and Aunt Nam)

Chon's general characterization as a self-identified gay man who is not toxically masculine or misogynistic and generally not judgmental. His brief arc with the unnamed nail technician and former sex worker is incredibly well-done for a Thai BL

Following the previous point, the nail technician character was treated decently well in this story. The fact that she was a bigger lady was never a point of repulsion for Chon (instead, he was more concerned that she was a woman and he's a gay virgin)

Characters who openly identify as non-straight and not just male characters who say "he's the only guy I'll ever like" (Na)

Parent-child conflict that isn't inherently about child's sexuality (Ton and his dad--technically it's about having a grandchild)

No real filler episodes, everything generally served the plot and there weren't any one-off 'let's go to the beach/camping' episodes

Male lead (Chon) shows physical attraction toward love interest (Ton) on multiple occasions

Ton and Chon's actors (Podd and Khaotung) have a somewhat understated but definitely present and persistent chemistry. Podd has the same look that Bright Vachirawit and Pond Naravit have opposite their co-leads Win Metawin and Phuwin Tangsakyuen. He just looks at Khaotung like he's the most interesting person in the room

For a man who just came to terms with being in love with another man, Ton is surprisingly open about his relationship with Chon and, once he confesses, not once does he second-guess his feelings for Chon

Charming story with an extremely charismatic cast of actors outside of a few

Mike Chinarrat. He's just so good at the comedic yet serious when he needs to be style of acting. It brought a lot to the show in terms of good acting

The Bad

Multiple characters are either raped, implied to have been raped, sexually assaulted, and/or sexually harassed with no actual repercussions for the attackers and/or exploration of the emotional trauma victims experience as a result. Under this one, Ai and Ni sexually assault Chon (played for laughs), Neung is implied to have been raped (NEVER addressed), and Chon kisses Ton without his consent (glossed over). I'm sure there's more instances too but yeah...

Ton is just....what the fuck is his character? One second he's bashing gay people and FORCING his male "childhood love" to lose his virginity (to a woman at that), the next he's confessing how he's known all along that his childhood love is, indeed, in love with him and that he feels the same way. They use the excuse of him having to live up to his parent's expectations despite the fact that it makes 0 sense if you think about it longer than a second

Casual colorism in the casting ONCE AGAIN. Nearly everyone who is portrayed as a bad/unsavory character is visibly darker than our "heros"

Same tired ex-girlfriend is an evil mastermind trying to break up our boys for no good reason trope

Ton's dad's character was not well flushed out. We think he's homophobic but actually he's anti-anything not straight and cis but then, no, actually he just wants his son to give him an heir but then all the characters claim that he hates gay people again and it's just like wtf? Is he homophobic, transphobic, tolerant unless it doesn't serve his goal of having grandchildren, all of the above, none of the above, just what? They go back on his characterization so much that I don't actually know what his biases are and which groups he's against/not against

Ton is dense as fuck to the point where it's a bit unrealistic..

The casual outing and forced outing of multiple gay characters by Baipai, Ai and Ni. Baipai outs Ai and Ni at the end, which leads to a Ai and Ni nearly being evicted from their home. And, again, Ai and Ni out Chon through SEXUAL ASSAULT.

Characters being made to apologize for their sexualities and occupations on multiple occasions. Off the top of my head I can think of: Ai, Ni, and Miriam apologizing to Ton's dad at the end for "negatively influencing" Ton to be interested in men

On that note, Ton not speaking up in that moment and telling his father that he's allegedly loved Chon since he was a child and that Ai, Ni, and Miriam didn't "change" him kind of annoyed me. That would've shut Ton's dad up quickly but he NEVER said anything about it

The or unexplained plot devices that need explanation. For example, how the hell did those bed pictures get leaked? How did Amp get the pictures she sent to Ton's dad? These questions need answers lol

Miriam's absolutely horribly unbelievable "pregnancy belly" that was just a sack of laundry stuffed into a dress

Most of the acting was just okay..supporting characters generally had better acting than our leads

Baipai's character. I just could not stand her. I even preferred Amp over her because at least Amp contributed to the plot

Speaking of the plot, the dumbass jealously plots have got to stop. They are so boring and repetitive. I'll admit that Tonhon Chonlatee pulled it off better than other series, but there was still so much they could have explored with the two compelling leads other than "let's make Ton jealous for 2 episodes"

The (lack of) kisses. The physical intimacy in this show was so stale it might as well have been a Chinese bromance censored by the CCP. Every kiss they either diverted the camera or had the actors do that weird tightly pursed lip smashing thing where neither person actually even opens their mouth for the kiss. Yet at the same time they showed a straight kiss 100%. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with this if it was rated G or something or even if the actors just weren't comfortable yet, but Podd has had better makeout scenes in other shows, and in 2gether Mike and Toptap actually have on-screen kisses

Even though I credited Tonhon Chonlatee for having an openly pansexual character (Na), they still had one of our main characters (Ton) claim to "only like Chon and no other men." Apparently you can be straight and like a guy as long as he's the only guy you currently like I guess.

[gunsatthaphan]

😎😎😎

[ppinacolada]

Let's go... to the place we went when we were kids 🥺

[myktnw]

[moviesstoriesandbooks]

Yo watch tonhon chonlatee. Is so mfing funny.

[liz-asian]

I love this photo of them ❤️

[uwuheart]

khaopodd wallpapers

[talkingbl]

A New Year Means an Updated List

of the Best actors BL has to offer. As with last time, for this list I will only consider actors who have had Main/2nd Main Couple roles in one or more BL-related series and/or films. Purple = new entry or higher ranking from the previous list. Red = lower ranking from the previous list.

Tier 1 - Phenomenal actors who make you believe fully in their characters. These actors have only a few weaknesses but numerous strengths. They evoke empathetic responses, making you feel what the characters feel. The actors in this group can compete with the best actors outside of the genre.

Gun Atthaphan

Billkin Putthipong

Wayne Song

Nanon Korapat

Tier 2 - A full step above Tier 3 actors, these actors are convincing in their roles but struggle with one significant aspect of acting. These actors are typically excellent in emotionally intense scenes, but struggle with light-hearted scenes (rarely vice-versa). There is a recurrent awareness of the fact that these actors are acting that limits suspension of disbelief at times.

Krist Perawat

Fluke Natouch

Ohm Pawat

First Kanaphan

Fiat Pattadon

Singto Prachaya

White Nawat

Off Jumpol

Tier 3 - Above-average actors in the BL genre that do well enough to make you care about their characters. Their characters seem natural and charismatic but there is typically a feeling that these actors are simply playing themselves a lot of the time, which can distract from their characters' stories.

Max Nattapol

Neo Trai

Tay Tawan

Charles (Shan-Tsun) Tu

Rookie Watch - Rookie BL actors who need practice in key areas, but still offer Tier 3 (and at times above)-level acting. These actors are the ones to watch 2-3 years down the line to adequately judge their growth.

Mix Sahaphap

Phuwin Tangsukyuen

Win Metawin

Santa Pongsapak

Honorable Mentions - Actors who do one or two things really well and have great potential but generally float around average.

*PP Krit

Pod Suphakorn

Zee Pruk

Note: *honestly don't know how to rank PP, b/c I feel he's not T1, I haven't seen enough to say he has the range for T2, but he doesn't have the 'I'm just playing myself' vibe of T3 despite being just as skilled than most of the T3 actors.

[gunsatthaphan]

“Na, can I have a word with you?”

[talkingbl]

Pairings I Loved At First Sight (Canon)

NeoShin, 3 Will Be Free

PhuphaTian A Tale of A Thousand Stars

LeonPob, Don't Say No

MorkPi, Fish Upon the Sky

LiChengMuren/LiChengTengTeng, History 4: Close to You

TehOhAew, I Told Sunset About You

TonhonChonlatee, Tonhon Chonlatee

WilhelmSimon, Young Royals

[ppinacolada]

he really.. just- went 🍆

"Chon, thanks a lot for being with me.."

[ppinacolada]

"Pull out your UNTAMED weapon & thrust it in my 9th hole"

[myktnw]

[talkingbl]

Best BL Actors (a running list)

This list will only be taking into account actors who have had Main/2nd Main Couple roles in one or more BL series and/or films.

Tier 1 - Phenomenal actors who make you believe fully in their characters. These actors have only a few weaknesses but numerous strengths. They evoke empathetic responses, making you feel what the characters feel. The actors in this group can compete with the best actors outside of the genre.

Gun Atthaphan

Wayne Song

Tier 2 - A full step above Tier 3 actors, these actors are convincing in their roles but struggle with one significant aspect of acting. These actors are typically excellent in emotionally intense scenes, but struggle with light-hearted scenes (rarely vice-versa). There is a recurrent awareness of the fact that these actors are acting that limits suspension of disbelief at times.

Fluke Natouch

Ohm Pawat

Tier 3 - Above-average actors in the BL genre that do well enough to make you care about their characters. Their characters seem natural but there is typically a feeling that these actors are simply playing themselves a lot of the time, which can distract from their characters' stories.

Max Nattapol

Tay Tawan

Off Jumpol

Rookie Watch - Rookie actors who need practice in key areas, but still offer Tier 3 (and at times above)-level acting. These actors are the ones to watch 2-3 years down the line to adequately judge their growth.

Win Metawin

Mix Sahaphap

Neo Trai

Phuwin Tang

Honorable Mentions - Actors who do one or two things really well and have great potential but generally float around average.

Pod Suphakorn

Zee Pruk

Charles (Shan-Tsun) Tu

[gunsatthaphan]

BL Ask Game

I was tagged by: @bl-fan thank you so much Natalie!!! 🥰 this is gonna be super hard lmaoo also I’m gonna use this as a redemption for the 30 day bl challenge which I failed miserably since I’m inconsistent af lol 😬

Favorite Main Couple: KhaiThird, TharnType, TinCan

Favorite Side Couple: RamKing 🥺🥺, Saizon, MingKit (2m2), MorkSun

Favorite Main Character: Third, Knock, Hao Ting,... (I know there are a few more but these are the first ones that come to mind)

Favorite Side Character: Fong ♥, Ram, King, Zon, Ming (2m2)  

Favorite Female Character: Manaow, Yihwa, May (sotus), Kitty (dbk), Pear (2gether)

Favorite Siblings: Zon & Zol 4 the win lmao they’re absolutely iconic. no. 2 would be Hao Ting and his sister bc they’re super sweet ♥

Top 5 BL: TOL, TharnType, LBC, 2Moons2, Why R U

First BL: HIStory 2: Crossing the Line

Currently Watching: LBC2, Oxygen, FriendZone 2, My Gear & Your Gown, I’m Tee Me Too, Mr. Heart.

Favorite BL Of This Year: Why R U & Still2gether 

Most Anticipated Upcoming BL: 10000% TONHON CHONLATHEE I’ve never been more whipped skjfhsdf I apologize to my followers who have to endure my irrational excitement lol

Most Rewatched BL: TOL

BL You Think Is Overrated: where your eyes linger

BL You Think Is Underrated: My Gear & Your Gown!!!!!! please watch it!!!!! Also I rlly liked TWM2 lol don’t kill me. Another one is Love Love Me. 

Favorite Trope: I love me some good enemies to lovers lol but I also go soft for friends to lovers; though this one is really hard to do storytelling-wise so it has to be done well.

Best Kiss: SaiZon, Why R U Ep13 👀

Favorite Male Actor: Gun Atthaphan ♥️ 

Favorite Female Actor: Namtan Tipnaree (she hasn’t appeared in a lot of bls but she’s a goddess so she has to go on the list deal w/ it)

Actor You Think Is Underrated: def my boy Chimon Wachirawit 🙏🏻 Also I feel like ppl are still not giving Tommy enough credit?? He’s phenomenal. 

Favorite Newcomer: Khaotung aka the only love and light of my life 🥺🥺🥺❣️

Favorite Veteran: I’m not sure what that means since I only know that term from military lmao so I’m gonna say Tay Tawan bc he always slays in School Rangers ksjfsd 🤷🏼‍♀️

Favorite Actor Pairing: *opens 142 slide ppt* listen. Tonhon Chonlathee hasn’t started and yet PoddKhao are already the most iconic pairing in the bl world. Your faves could never. mewgulf who. offgun who. thanks 4 coming to my ted talk. don’t @ me.

Favorite Friends: ManBoss (2gether), MingWayo (2m2) & PharmTeamManaow (UWMA)

thanks for tagging me!!! ♥️ I’m tagging:

@arjunashankar @dollopheadsandclotpoles @metawwin @brightwin @bbrightwins @taytawan @tawanv @winmetawinssimp @dangerous-button @lostinbl @maddiesup @nieves-de-sugui @earthpodd @metawin @seekingstarlightinthecity and everyone else who’s in the mood! :)) 

I’m curious to see yall’s masterlists lol 🙈

xxx