#pls feel free to rb with other parallels

[kitsunecrows]

a heart is a heavy burden, but it is not one we need to carry alone

familiar, why is this so familiar

[furryanarchist-blog]

this is gonna b long, but im mad and got issues with the inclusionist side. if u got somethin 2 add (cus lets b honest this gonna b biased as fuck bc i only interact with the worst of the inclusionists so i probs wont see the worst of the exclusionists) feel free to add it, id appreciate it and would b relieved 2 b proved wrong if u actually can prove it. (tldr; is at the end of the post)

tw: uncensored q slur, swearing, bold, brief nazi & concentration camp mentions

when talking about ace discourse, it is a intracommunity issue. its all lgbt+ people arguing with each other because of how they see things differently. so when addressing the discourse as a whole you have to acknowledge all the sides of it, because there isnt just one. that being said you can still discuss the issues that inclusionists have and the issues exclusionists have just talking about in those groups seperately. i see a lot of posts that discuss the “entirety of the discourse” but just talk about the opposing views they have. thats created a whole bunch of different standards each side has been held accountable for.

this post by @dogsanddiscourse is a great example of how each side is held to different standards. those who participate in the discourse on the inclusionist side do tend to ignore the issues on their side. even when shown how it can be problematic, a majority will still not acknowledge it. a good example of this is the CAH discourse. both sides made a cardcast discourse pack (exclusionists, and the 2 inclusionist ones x  x ) and there was plenty of talk about them. for instance the deck made by @x-q-u-e-e-r-x which featured many slurs (none of which have been used in ace discourse) had many people reblog and support it, where as the exclusionist deck got flack for including ace and aro identities. i have pointed out to people that some cards in the inclusionist pack were iffy at best, and no one has yet to acknowledge that. if you have a issue with something (cah discourse packs) you should acknowledge both sides who are doing it, not just the opposite side. (another example if u wanna look at smthing real bad is everything to do with discourseshit)

what i really hate the most is that you cant ask inclusionists to take a look at what someone is doing without 1) “attacking all aces and aros” 2) “accusing a entire side for one persons actions” 3) “being a bigot”.

people (not everyone!! but there are people who rb from these blogs) are continuously reblogging from people who have said straight up homophobic things like acerecourse, uninueclus, wetwareproblem, golbatgender / periegesisvoid, myidentityisnotaslur / memestealingasexuals, featherinmycapandcheese, and ppl like tenichyfingers, theangrybi / robotbisexual, kuroba101, drg-aido, vaspider, strategicgoat, juunkrat (who i havent seen in the discourse tag for a while, but this is why i dont like them) i could go on. there are many popular inclusionist blogs that people will continuously reblog from and support no matter how many times they will be called out. but, on the other side. as soon as a exclusionist has done something problematic they are immediately exiled and cut off (which is toxic and a whole nother discussion for a dif post)

even when not talking about specific people but ideas and symbols inclusionists will never directly address it but instead ignore it. i havent once (pls correct me if im wrong im beggin to b wrong) seen inclusionists speak out about: the ace triangle (a direct parallel to the triangles gay people had to wear in nazi concentration camps), not calling people things they dont want to be called (queer, allosexual), using “we’re here, we’re queer, get used to it” to co-opt cishets into the lgbt+ community. where as the exclusionist side will no-platform ad ignore anyone whos been called out, (example, example (u just gotta tell me who and ill look into it), example)

tldr; i just got a huge problem with the inclusionist side cus none of nyall will take accountablity for shit u say like this. everyone just sweeps it under the rug and ignores it. its frustrating especially when people turn around and say “well ur side did this” to completely ignore the problems uve been shown. and its not even u so y r u defending them. like seriously, its not impossible for u to acknowledge that uve made mistakes, everyone does. like all i want,, if for everyone to just step up and be responsible. like, if u say shit, u gotta take shit, u cant just keep hiding and blocking. square up and take responsibility for your actions

[kitsunecrows]

familiar, why is this so familiar