#please remember that is LGBT+ NOT LGT+
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nonokoko13 · 10 months ago
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Why can't people like a celebrity without imagine them as queer? Can't people like Taylor music without go saying she's lesbian/queer when she hasn't said anything about that. Pretty sure if she was attracted to women she would have already said it 🫠
Even in the hypothetical scenario where she was queer indeed pressuring somebody to come out or out them yourself is selfish, stupid, dangerous, toxic and overall fucked up (-᷅_-᷄)
We have so many queer pop icons out of the closet but you need to headcanon your favourite ally/het as lgbt for...comfort reasons? Just because she's your fav? Because you are queer? Dude she's not a fictional character can you not spread false information or discuss real people orientations and just enjoy their content 💀
all goofing aside I genuinely don't understand the urge to reimagine Taylor Allison Swift as a secretly queer icon when the pop music scene(TM) is like. literally overflowing with women who actually like women. Gaga and Kesha and Miley and Halsey are right there. Rina Sawayama and Hayley Kiyoko and Rebecca Black and Kehlani and Victoria Monét and Miya Folick if you're willing to get slightly less top 100. Janelle and Demi for them nonbinary takes on liking girls. like what are we doing here. like I'm not even saying you can't enjoy Taylor but why would you hang all your little gay hopes on her.
#saying this as bi myself btw#WHO SAYS LADY GAGA DOESN'T COUNT AS QUEER JUST BECAUSE SHE'S A BOY KISSER TOO#i'm tired of this shit#please remember that is LGBT+ NOT LGT+#bi/pan folks exist. No need to act like people is either gay or straight and there's no in between when that's clearly *false*!#And even if you aren't lgbt+ I think having this opinion of not giving real people hc sexualities/orientations is still valid#you have too much free time if you're wasting it to theorize about somebody private life while ignoring the very much confirmed queer icons#Plus. If you care sm about somebody sexuality to the point if they aren't what you want them to be you get disappointed/upset#rather than caring more about their work which they produced and you supposedly consume as a self-proclaimed fan...#Are you really a fan of them? I don't think so.#A true fan loves them for who they are or what they produce. Not because for who they feel attracted to#Imagine working your way to the top as a musician or whatever career you pursue and your fans grade your worth or their liking to you#based on who you kiss or sleep with or who you don't 💀#feeling like OOP pfp for real#this is exhausting#Idc less about who Lady Gaga kisses. Yeah having her as bi icon was important to me but if tomorrow she decides to come out as smth else#I'll keep listening her music. Because I like her music. And her personality. And some of her outfits. The end#there are many songs made by women/nb who like women iswtg#you don't need to pretend straight people isn't straight in order to like their music or to like them as a person I promise it's okay 🙏#Also what in the actual fuck is that article??? People seriously get paid for writing that? 💀💀💀💀#So sorry for all the shit you must have read in order to need to do this thread OP and afterwards too#ALSO BATMAN NAME based opinion and good taste hell yeah ✨#the you in all this post only goes to those who think like that btw. If you feel offended the problem is on you#how about taking reading comprehension classes before speaking. Some people are in dire need of it#those who believe a bi is less queer icon than a gay one is in my blacklist. If you come to me with that bs I'll block you on sight
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knightofbalance-13 · 7 years ago
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http://dudeblade.tumblr.com/post/164840215031/icindernikos-dudeblade-icindernikos
This argument? really? Someone else figure out how many times this excuse argument has been used please. I genuinely want to know how many people have used this argument and how many times it’s been used.
My cynical and sarcastic comments aside…
Maybe because you keep trying to use these people as your bias argument: Remember that time during BMBLB you tried using LGT people and their mental illnesses s an attack on RT, a bisexual called you out anbd you proceeded to eb a condescending douche to the point you told them to commit suicide? (http://dudeblade.tumblr.com/post/162638201666/magecunt-14-is-at-it-again / http://dudeblade.tumblr.com/post/162639498436/yknow-what-i-take-back-what-i-said-about-kob) Yeah, some oif them don’t li8ke it so trying to speak for all of them kind of pisses people off. You can say YOU want representation but that’s it: You are allowed to speak for no one but yourself. Anything else, like speaking for people against their will, is wrong.
First off, it’s been nearly FIVE YEARS since they made that promise, and the only things they have to show for it are the Scarlet Fanboy, and a VA’s headcanon. Five Years. Over FOUR volumes. I get that it’s not the end of the series, but if they really want it to feel natural, then they would have done it a long time ago.
And in those five years, do you know what actually happened in romance? Three sunk ships, one dubious one and one barely, not even confirmed canon one. Yeah, they’\;ve been taking their sweet ass time with heterosexuals too. Also: Proof that they said they’d give an LGBT character at a specific Volume or time and broke it. No? Then the promise still stands, no matter how long it takes.
Secondly, you can’t write RT a hall pass for their lack of representation. Just because YOU’RE okay with it doesn’t make it okay. There are other people in the LGBT+ community that are miffed about the lack of representation. Are their opinions invalid because they aren’t giving RT an excuse? - Because that’s how you’re coming off as.
And what you are doing is any different. Wait, it is: @icindernikos is only speaking for themselves and you are trying to speak for a community as a whole you are not a part of and people are telling you to stop. Kind of comes across more as “What I SAY only matters” than what they are doing.
Also, this is not the first time an LGBT person has said they are fine waiting or disagreei on the queerbaiting so this isn’t just one person: This is multiple people contradicting you. People who WOULD be affected by your inseesant preaching and attacking, making them look bad and giving them a worse product because you spoke over them. These people have grown to the point they rival the number of people calling queerbaiting and if factor in the silent majority, the numbers far outnumber you so you should probably take that as a hint and stop talking about the issue they don’t want you too.
Also, I’m either Bi or Pan (Still trying to figure out which), and I’m pretty miffed about the lack of representation. Sorry that you can’t write them a hall pass for this sort of stuff, but it’s the truth. Similarly, I can’t write a company a hall pass for how they treat Filipino characters despite being Filipino myself - that would be stupid.
A. I find that highly skeptical as I have more mlm fanart in my Tumblr than you and you have a stated bias and hate against the male gender (http://dudeblade.tumblr.com/post/160161209960/rwde-theory-reactions-to-everything / http://dudeblade.tumblr.com/post/163800343229/i-hate-jaune) so you claiming to be bi or pan seems more like you want the status to talk over LGBT people who speak out against you.
B. Actually, they can: By showing that the community is not unanimous or even majorly against this, it shows that this is a PERSONAL issue and not a COMMUNITY issue and thus road speaking and broad terms are not allowed.
And C.By this logic, I can claim to speak for teh whole RWDE tag: Do you really want ME to have full control over what you say? Because I am sadistic enough to abuse it.
Sorry if I took what you said the wrong way, but like I said, it’s coming off as if you’re saying that opinions that disagree with yours are invalid because they don’t give RT an excuse for their baiting.
And your words say that you aren’t sorry, their voice doesn’t count because it doesn’t support what you say despite you being an outsider and they give a reason why RT ISN’T queerbaiting.
Basically: You’re projecting again Dudeblade while being a homophobe as well. Next time and each time after: Speak for yourself and yourself ALONE.
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