#plato says love is a serious mental disease

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I could last days saying nothing but Sad-One's quotes

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Hi, sorry but I was wondering if you have any romantic or philosophical "ancient Greek" quotes/phrases/poems?

Thank you :)) I love your account btw its so helpful

Ancient Greek Proverbs & Phrases

“A gift consists not of what is done or given, but in the intention of the giver or doer.” (Seneca)

“Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all.” (Aristotle)

“Every heart sings a song, incomplete, until another heart whispers back. Those who wish to sing always find a song. At the touch of love, everyone becomes a poet.” (Plato)

“Eyes that don’t see each other frequently are soon forgotten.” - Μάτια που δεν βλέπονται γρήγορα λησμονιούνται (Proverb)

“For all great men, the entire earth is a tomb.” - Ανδρών επιφανών πάσα γη τάφος (Thucydides)

“Love consists of one soul that is living within two bodies.” - Η αγάπη αποτελείται από μία ψυχή που κατοικεί σε δύο σώματα (Aristotle)

“Love is a serious mental disease.” (Plato)

“Love without a bit of stubborness isn’t tasteful.” - Αγάπη χωρίς πείσματα δεν έχει νοστιμάδα (Proverb)

“Man—a being in search of meaning.” (Plato)

“No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it’s not the same river and he’s not the same man.” (Heraclitus)

“One word sets us free from all the weight and the pain in life. And that word is: love.” - Μία λέξη μας απελευθερώνει από όλο το βάρος και τον πόνο στη ζωή. Και αυτή η λέξη είναι: αγάπη (Sophocles)

“People are like dirt. They can either nourish you and help you grow as a person or they can stunt your growth and make you wilt and die.” (Plato)

“The tongue has no bones but it crushes bones.” - Η γλώσσα κόκαλα δεν έχει και κόκαλα τσακίζει (Proverb)

“The unexamined life is not worth living.” - Ο ανεξεταστος βιος ου βιωτος ανθρωπω (Socrates)

“Τhe world only exists when you can share it.” - Ο κόσμος μόνο όταν τον μοιράζεσαι υπάρχει (Tasos Leivaditis, Greek poet)

“There are two things a person should never be angry at: What they can help, and what they cannot.” (Plato)

“We can’t live with each other, neither can we live without one another.” - Εμείς μαζί δεν κάνουμε και χώρια δεν μπορούμε (Proverb)

“What you leave behind is not what is engraved in stone monuments, but what is woven into the lives of others.” (Pericles)

“When the mind is thinking, it is talking to itself.” (Plato)

“Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” (Plato)

Sources: 1 2 3 4 5 ⚜ More: Writing Notes & References

Thanks so much for your lovely words! Hope this helps with your writing :)

[rumahrmh]

Take a chance, even if it scares you. Or maybe I should take the opposite:

If you’re not scared, you’re not taking a chance.

If you’re not taking a chance, then what the hell are you doing anyway?

So, should I have to be scared? Have no idea for that.

It’s not just about me, ready to make a new romantic relationship, or jump into some—butterfly in my stomach—feeling with someone I attracted to. It’s not about the head over heels action I showed to my friends.

Plato said Love is a serious mental disease. Totally agree with that guy. I’m not ready for another breakups, or even the rejection at the beginning. What if she’s not really into me? What if she’s just being nice as a person? What if our coffee time, or dinner, is just another compliments she wanted to treat me back? I’m not ready for all of the awful scenario.

My friends—best friends always told me to take a shoot. Ask her out, get the sign if she likes me. They say, girl knows when someone has made a romantic movement. Yeah, sometimes I feel like I already get the sign. But sometimes it was too blurry, it’s like there’s a big curtain covered her mind, or maybe a Robin Scherbatsky and Ted Mosby’s heart switch button.

Hey, how could I miss this point. What if… That’s me, who was having the button for all this time? What if she actually had give me the sign but my eyes were too blinded to see those sign? Someone please tell me what I’m supposed to do. Thinking about it makes me sick.

Am I ready for this?

[cosmicfan776]

nothing's fair in love and war

and plato says love is a serious mental disease

Sorry to tell you this but you could not beat Plato even if you wanted to. He was a professional wrestler as well as philosopher.

Sorry but you are getting beat up so bad.

Sorry.

Typical plato behaviour. Won't even give me the satisfaction of beating him

[carou-sol]

Dion (probably): Plato says love is a serious mental disease.

[somerpmemes]

Infinity Train S1 Starters

Change as needed

“Way to abandon me in my time of need.”

“300 miles is not a quick hop.”

“Did I just hallucinate a train station?”

“Are you building a coffin?”

“That’s kinda a weird thing to joke about.”

“Alright good guy, pop that bad guy!”

“Is that weird for a house? No roof?”

“This place has some stuff that’s okay about it and some stuff that could be better.”

“Okay, everything has rules. Even crazy things have their own logic.”

“Don’t think of it so much as a pyramid scheme as a pyramid team.”

“It would be surprising if you never died.”

“I have $12.42 but one of the pennies is Canadian.”

“I’ve always been more interested in the peculiar and unique.”

“What is your hair?”

“It’s not as weird as it sounds.”

“Look at me, I’m a musical genius!”

“Can I interest you in a sunbeam to lie in?”

“The sun’s gonna burn out one day. Enjoy this while you can.”

“Looks like I’ll have to start writing his obituary.”

“I’m going as fast as I can but I’m going nowhere.”

“Just because you can’t figure out things immediately doesn’t mean it won’t happen eventually.”

“We can’t always force progress, ___.”

“Oh, you’re okay. I’ll just keep your obituary on file then.”

“If anyone’s keeping track, I think I’m winning at being right about things.”

“You know, you suggest we sleep on things a lot.”

“Are you tired of owning things that aren’t donuts but could be donuts?”

“That’s definitely what happened, but knowing it doesn’t feel any better.”

“I’ve always suspected stairs can’t be trusted.”

“If they knew it was broken they would’ve fixed it.”

“It wouldn’t be like this if I had just been better.”

“How can I not try and fix it? It’s my fault.”

“I know what it’s like to think that if you’d just been better, things would’ve been different, that you’re responsible for fixing things that are beyond your control.”

“Just know that I speak from experience when I say, this is not your fault.”

“I am a pacifist by nature but a warrior by necessity.”

“Hey, I can help you if you talk to me.”

“You never ask for help.”

“I’m not ignoring everyone, I can just handle my problems myself. That’s completely different!”

“They’re gonna make a statue of her one day.”

“We’ll put that one down as a team effort.”

“This would have been so much easier for all of us if you had just stayed put.”

“All of this is your fault.”

“Nothing will ever change.”

“Fatalism doesn’t suit you.”

“Sleeping’s creepy.”

“Plato says love is a serious mental disease.”

“But where’s the showmanship?”

“I always do the right thing.”

“You keep a pipe in your backpack?”

“Who will you lose next?”

“You can’t keep trying to recreate your old life. You have to learn how to live in this one.”

“We have to adapt to the changes in our lives. It’s the only way things can get better.”

“I’m very uncomfortable with how much I missed.”

“Wait, wait! Hug! Hug first!”

[crstapor]

Terror White

“You’re either with us or against us.” - George W. Bush


1.

On January 6th, 2021, domestic terrorists invaded the Capital Building in an act of political insurrection. Their intent was to overthrow the will of the people by preventing certification of a free and fair democratic election. They did so at the behest of their political leader (who was impeached a second time for inciting this gross transgression of his oath of office), other voices in their party - the so-called GOP - and talking head agitators inhabiting the far-right media echo chamber. Nearly to a man, a woman, a they, each of these terrorists were white.

Images of ‘good old boys’ traipsing down the halls of the people’s house waving confederate battle flags, kicking feet up on the Speaker’s desk, walking off with public property or smearing their shit on the floors pervaded the internet. These images provided by the villains themselves, posted shamelessly to social media profiles.

As a result of this treasonous, insulting, juvenile, despicable, and ultimately futile effort five people died. Even still, hours after the fact, a majority of members of the so-called GOP voted in accordance with the will of these terrorists. They voted to overturn the results of a free and fair election in the world’s oldest modern democracy. They did so because they believed there were serious ‘concerns’ (‘concerns’, let’s be clear, that started with them and like the Ouroboros, ended up with the confusing, if unhygienic, phenomenon of not knowing where their mouths or assholes ended or began) with the 2020 presidential election. After over 60 court cases arguing that point only one was ruled in their favor. None of the 50 States comprising our union found any evidence of wide-spread fraud. Indeed, a federal agency tasked with monitoring election security stated unequivocally that the presidential election of 2020 was one of the most secure in a generation.

And yet? There they were. Spouting conspiracy theories, assaulting police officers (those stalwart stewards of the ‘law & order’ they otherwise claim to love), brandishing spears and bearskins, stealing mail, leaving death threats to the Vice President, fundamentally acting the fool. A bunch of bullies let out of detention with rage and rebellion on their minds.

Let me be clear: each and every one of these terrorists should be hunted down by law enforcement and charged to the fullest extent of the law. They should then be prosecuted and the judges in each and every case should show or allow no mercy. These barbarians must never be allowed to storm the gates again.

Fine.

But that’s not the really interesting question here. The far-right has been producing assholes forever (one of the few things the ‘right’ is truly consistent at). What’s actually interesting is how these insurrectionists arrived at the conclusions they did. Which is to say; how did their ‘thinking’ bring them to this point.

2.

While it might be tempting for some on the left to see that last sentence as a joke, let’s remember we’re sitting at the adult table. These terrorists, being human, sharing our genetic code, are people - real, live, eating, shitting, fucking, anxious, sleeping, scared, afraid, terrified people - just like you and me. As much as it would be easier if we could see them as Uruk-hai instead of our brothers and sisters, sadly? That’s what they are. Family. Part of the Human Condition.

Though humans that are clearly very, very, very sick. My diagnosis? Mind Cancer. Let me explain, under the assumption my readers understand the difference between mind and brain. As such, I am not asserting that the terrorists are physically sick. From their pics and videos it’s clear many are - obesity, hypertension, anal retention - though that isn’t the point. It’s their mental programming, their minds, that have been infected. Infected with what?

Put simply? A disjointed ontological phenomenology obscured, obfuscated, and accelerated by persistently chaotic epistemological aberrations. Said plainly? Their ability to process reality has been impaired.

Why? Racial resentment, poor economic opportunities, an aversion to books and learning? Yes. All that. Plus? The internet, which has created a new Dark Ages.

Paradoxically, one built on light.

3.

Look. Self-interested demagogues intent on self-aggrandizement are nothing new. Nor are their ability to rally or rile a downtrodden populace. Sadly, demonizing the ‘other’ is also pretty par for the course in these scenarios. An old story, all told. What’s new this time is how it happens.

In a single second - count it out! One Mississippi - a beam, or photon of light moves 186,000 miles. Roughly seven times the circumference of the Earth. The new speed of hate. The internet, that modern marvel ushering in Humanity’s first truly post-scarcity resource, is built on light. Philosophers have for millennia wed knowledge with light. And now we all (well, those of us in the post-industrial world) carry a terminal connected to this internet in our pockets. A stunning marvel of human ingenuity. One would imagine that access to such a wellspring of knowledge and information would have a truly edifying affect on the Human Condition. Perhaps, in aggregate, or retrospect, it will. At the moment?

Yeah ...

At the moment it seems that the more access to information humans have the more they double down on tribal identities, wish fulfillment, instant gratification (read: porn), perceived slights, fantasy lands, Rick Astley videos, or the jibbering incoherent rantings of simple capitalists fomenting the fragile emotional states of low information individuals who feel they have no place in this world. This is a fundamentally devastating epistemological conundrum. Why? For centuries the barrier to the future was the amount of information, knowledge, you could access or process. Yet here and now? Here and now there might be too much access. Too much information. More so, the striking fact that our ability, as a species, writ large, to process or parse this information has not kept pace with the information at hand. A sad equation that inevitably leads to moments like 01/06/21.

4.

The Trump Terrorists of January 6th, 2021, weaponized the internet to facilitate their attempted coup. As did their ‘dear leader’ throughout his humiliating single term in office. In fact, it was the geometrical acceleration of connectivity and interconnectedness enabled via the web and its insanely capitalist platforms that allowed for their ‘movement’ to incubate and evolve. While it is true that neo-liberal policies advocating globalist economics and monetary policy are at the current root cause of most ills genuinely affecting rural, or poor, or uneducated MAGA-heads, it’s also true that apart from an Independent from Vermont no one in the political economy of the last couple decades gave much of a shit about these poor and dispossessed inheritors of old racial mythemes and toxic narratives of self-reliance. No one that is, other than their ‘dear leader’. Never mind he didn’t intend to ease their suffering in any material, or structural way. He talked about it. He tweeted about it. And then he gave them a little song and dance at the rallies. Breathtaking stuff.

However, it wasn’t just the performative act of playing ‘authoritarian’ that got them hot and bothered. No, it was at the same time the eternal need to belong to a group, the legitimate feeling of economic obsolescence, coupled with these new tools of information transmission. Tools that at once gave them powers unheralded and seemingly ensconced them in a protective shell, a perpetually larval manifestation of all their baser inclinations. A reactionary ‘safe space’ from which they could launch a thousand ships of intolerance and hate. What good is truth if you can’t weaponize it? What good are facts if you share them with everyone else?

And so we find ourselves revising Plato. There isn’t just one cave in which we are chained, kept from reality. There are multiple tunnels, alcoves, deeper caverns in which we might dwell. Furthermore, if lucky, there are different days, vistas, egresses in which we can escape from the confines of ignorance. Much like the lucky Mormons, it would seem the far-right believes there are plenty of planets in which ‘Truth’ can dwell. Never mind that multiplying ‘Truth’ in such a way doesn’t actually produce more truth.

In fact, it reduces ‘Truth’. Impoverishes it. Hollows it out.

Which is sad, really. For the major harm caused by these rebels isn’t to our democratic institutions, nor our mythological vision of our nature, nor that ever-loving economy - but to the very fabric that binds the social contract on which all the preceding rely.

That fabric being, specifically, a shared objective reality.

5.

How can we survive if we can’t agree on basic facts? Can a multi-racial, multi-cultural, representative democracy exist when a large percentage of the comprising citizens don’t believe in, or even acknowledge, that that’s actually what’s happening? Is White Supremacy so fundamentally a part of our nation’s DNA that the country can’t exist without it? If so, for those of us who vehemently oppose White Supremacy, the question might then be: is the country worth saving?

Most versions of Western Ethics indicate that violence is not the cure. Nor do I advocate such a position. At the same time I’m deeply troubled, because due their illness these actors are neither rational or coherent. Ergo, we can’t reason with them either. So what next?

To corral the revolutionary, if inchoate, spirit of these sick, fringe minds diseased as they are by hate, grievance, and digital oubliettes would any policy proposals be acceptable? Perhaps as fantastic an idea as the images from 01/06/21, what if the Federal Government decided to halt its obsequious sycophantry to corporate America and ‘elites’ and instead actually, seriously, emphatically reinvested in the heartland, in Main Street, in the working class? Wouldn’t it be ironic if a little more socialism was truly the cure these hatemongers require?

6.

Maybe we should step back and listen to the wisdom of George W. Bush.

Confronting what was at the time the most disheartening terror attack on the homeland, Bush made clear not all who could otherwise be lumped in with the terrorists were terrorists. In the same way that, yes, not all Trump voters are Trump Terrorists.

Even so. Bush made it clear you needed to pick a side.

With us - toward a diverse future in which the promise of the Founders is emboldened and expanded for all who live between our shores. Or against us - back to your stunted hovels and holes with all the other low information troglodytes you like to cosplay revolution with.  

Choose.

It’s your call. But choose quickly, because history is watching, and only one path moves toward the future.

C. R. Stapor Longmont, CO 01/16/21

[soyfuerte-7]

Love is a serious mental disease by Plato (supposedly). First off, did Plato really say that? I’ve been wondering this since I had edited the photo. I was wondering if they had really said this quote and what made them say that. Love. Love isn't something you give from your heart if you want to get technical. People say this all the time, “I love you from the bottom of my heart” ... Okay? Your heart really has nothing to do with the love. Your heart is the muscle that runs your body but the feeling you have for the love and everything, that is tied with that is in your brain. I’m sure if we had started out telling someone a different phrase it may sound better. But, for now it sounds like “I love you from the very top of my brain” or something like “I love from the (insert specific part of the brain here).. the comparison isn't quite the same.

[blue-sentinel]

❤

Plato said that “love is a serious mental disease”. What does your muse think of that?

He whole hardheartedly agrees. N’hil has recently came to see love as madness. He described it to affection to be “more of an affliction, debasing rationality and instigating people to commit unthinkably foolish actions.” He was initially frustrated with the concept entirely and perceived it to be a threat to his ability to remain a rational and level headed decision maker.

But then he realized how inescapably human romance is.

The many observed examples of relationships and the drama that has come from them initially lead N’hil to perceive it as something that should be avoided at all costs. After all, it frequently caused an excessive amount of drama between his friends and acquaintances. But when he caught feelings himself, he began to realize how intoxicating and invigorating they were. Whether its a consequence of his lack of experience or an exaggeration, N’hil thinks that once a person falls in love, they should follow after it with a measure of prudence and determination. 

It’s a necessary madness. To him, the feelings of attraction and love are an unstoppable force of humanity that need to be recognized and respected. That’s not to say that he thinks a person should submit themselves entirely to it to a destructive extent, but rather appreciate and embrace the feelings as they come.

[safrona-shadowsun]

❤ : Plato said that “love is a serious mental disease”. What does your muse think of that?

The Courier snickered a bit. “It’s an ugly way of defining it, yes? But I can understand the comparison. Loving the drink too much can become a disease. Loving someone in a way that they cannot love you back can become a disease of obsession. And loving power’s given Azeroth its mad tyrants and megalomaniacs.”

 “Is it the same when family protects one another out of love, or when a Knight swears fealty to his nation out of declaration of love? Is it a disease when you find yourself loving and missing the sound of a voice? Maybe…”

A smirk now. “Even if it’s all a disease, I don’t think any of us can say we’ve truly lived until we’ve come down with that sickness.”

{ @nocturnedreaming }

[ironinspo]

     𝐩𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐨𝐩𝐡𝐲 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐯𝐚𝐥𝐮𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐬𝐤 𝐦𝐞𝐦𝐞 —

Does your muse have a strict honour code?

Is fate something your muse believes in?

Have your muse say what their motto in life is (or if they don’t have one, have them think about it).

Does your muse agree that “fortune favours the brave”?

Is your muse religious? Which religion do they follow, if any?

Neitzche said that “hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man”. How does your muse feel about that?

Does your muse believe in reincarnation? An afterlife?

Is your muse a pacifist? To what degree?

If your muse were a ruler, how would they use their power?

Plato said that “love is a serious mental disease”. What does your muse think of that?

Would your muse call out someone who does something bad on a busy street?

Lots of philosophers talk about the significance of music. What does music mean to your muse?

Would your muse sacrifice themselves or their time/money to help someone else in need? Or would they mind their own business?

Does your muse feel a strong connection to any of the seasons? Why?

What does your muse think the meaning of life is?

[schattenwerfenkeineschatten]

❤ jehan

❤ : Plato said that “love is a serious mental disease”. What does your muse think of that?

Jehan would like you to know this is a mistranslation. It should be, “love is a madness.” Plato says this through Socrates in Phaedrus. Not a disease but divine madness, a gift from the Gods. Himself mad with love (among other things), Jehan doesn’t find himself disagreeing. Amantes, amentes.

[sisterlilybug]

I saw Infinity Train and LOVED it!!! I love One-One and wanted to make a humanized version of him. Sorry it’s only drawings of his face q-q I’m not too good with drawing bodies

[sacradementiae]

✍, ✿, ☁, ❤, and ♫

philosophy & values ask meme

✍ : Have your muse say what their motto in life is (or if they don’t have one, have them think about it). 

I am not sure that Kefka has canonically a motto concerning his style of life, although a quote is known that defines his personality quite well, or at least, his way of acting. 

Read my lips - mercy is for wimps! There’s a reason “oppose” rhymes with “dispose”…If they get in your way, kill them!

 If we consider this valid, I would say that he does not need to explain it because accompanied by his mannerisms and fame, it is strong enough in the concept that it implies. 

✿ : Does your muse feel a strong connection to any of the seasons? Why?

This answer is already more personal since although in FFVI Kefka complains all the way to Figaro Castle, I think is the result of multiple things together, not just the heat of the desert. 

It would be easy to think that Kefka who, feeling some kind of attraction to fire, preferred summer, the warmest stage of the year, but I do not discard winter, since it has some evocation to an end with leafless trees, and this cold stage being falling in the final months of the year. 

It would depend on his mood, like everything… 

☁ : Nietzsche said that “hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man”. How does your muse feel about that?

Oh coming from Nietzsche, being one of the philosophers whose words most evoke me the character in some aspects, especially existentialist, Kefka would totally agree. 

I think that in his final monologue, Kefka already expresses his opinions about it quite well, he finds it meaningless or a waste of time.

❤ : Plato said that “love is a serious mental disease”. What does your muse think of that? 

This reminds me of a quote I saw once here and it seemed like a concept that Kefka could develop in his head.

Love is like a virus. It can happen to anybody at any time. 

Love changes you, both physically and mentally. Somehow resembling a mental illness, without going too far as psychosis in its early stages or felt to the extreme.

♫ : Lots of philosophers talk about the significance of music. What does music mean to your muse? 

This answer is also obviously personal since I like to think that some time before his insanity, music was relevant to Kefka, a way of expressing himself without using words or a way to connect with others, to play an instrument with another musician..

[helelsonofthemorning]

One-One: Plato says "love is a serious mental disease."

Cat: That, we can agree upon, ball.

Infinity Train, episode 9, "The Past Car".

For the record, I...want so much to say that they're completely wrong.

[pick-and-shovel-laborer]

❤

❤ : Plato said that “love is a serious mental disease”. What does your muse think of that?

((Well the only love interest that I’m really familiar with is Goldie though I know he’s had others in both DuckTales and the comics.  I guess Scrooge kind of experiences this with Goldie, particularly in the Don Rosa comics where he keeps a painting of her above his bed and a lock of hair and considers it his most prized possession.  Of course Scrooge still hasn’t openly admitted he still loves her [except maybe in the original DuckTales series.]  When they’re around each other I’d say they’re both kind of stubborn, so I guess you can say he may find some truth in Plato’s statement but Scrooge [and Goldie are] kind of afraid to give into that “serious mental disease” and try to keep their minds as rational as possible.  Of course Scrooge’s love of money can certainly be irrational, when he goes to crazy extremes to save or earn the tracest amounts [i.e. “The 87-Cent Solution,” and the original “Treasure of the Golden Suns” is good example as well] but then again he never openly admits that his love for money is a “serious mental disease” either.