#plastic surgery podcast

[drjaycalvertmd]

Celebrating 250 Episodes! The Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery Podcast with Dr. Jay Calvert

[meganfoxrocksmyworld]

Reasons I Love Megan Denise Fox.

She's unhinged.

[headlinehorizon]

The Osbournes Podcast: Candid Reflections on Plastic Surgery and More

Join Sharon and Kelly Osbourne as they open up about the world of plastic surgery and share their personal experiences on their revived podcast series. From discussing their own procedures to addressing the risks involved, they emphasize the importance of honesty and removing the stigma surrounding cosmetic enhancements.

[inkandguns]

Gross. Like the host of whatever podcast, I too am a natural body supremacist. Every woman has her own unique beauty. Trying to look like everyone else only leads to nightmares like this.

[eluxcastar]

What in the LORD'S name have they done to my boys like. Urd is…decent, better than the others but less girly pop and I think Rígr stole his hair gel. but Rígr looks like he'd use the words "dating market" unironically and would tell me to buy crypto

I've genuinely never seen someone so ambiguously bullyable how are these the same person. He looks like what happens when men get too much plastic surgery and get dangerously close to the uncanny valley

Not you two tho you're still great honeys

POV you're the female guest on an alpha male podcast

[emphasisonthehomo]

An incomplete list of things that instragram has arbitrarily decided that I’m interested in, when I have never sought out or interacted with any of said content, except to say again and again that I don’t give a shit and I don’t want to be shown it:

Christianity

Islam

Judaism

Neo paganism

Witchcraft

Lana del Rey /Taylor Swift/Chappell Roan (I’m lumping these into one, because it’s like every other week the algorithm decides I must love some random white popstar)

Hairdresser/barbershop (braiding, extension installs, fades, hair dye, wigs, etc.)

Cars/motorcycles (including street racing, low riders, classic cars, etc.)

Nails (press on, nail decorating, etc.)

Lash extensions

Mommyblog/family blogging content

Pro vegan propaganda

Anti vegan propaganda

Right wing qanon brianrot

The worst liberal hot takes you’ve ever heard

Fishing (creating handmade lures/people holding up fish, etc.)

ASMR/satisfying videos (slime, soap cutting, people clacking their nails on shit, etc.)

Pimple popping (🤮)

Van life

Text to speech readings of reddit posts

10000 podcasts I’ve never heard of in my entire life

Gymfluencers

Bigoted memes

South Park/Family Guy/other bad tv shows

High school theater content

Random sports (baseball, cricket, f1 etc.)

Cosplayers

Anime clips

Furries

Joe Rogan

K pop

Balloon arch companies

Weddings (photographers, planners, people getting married, etc.)

Nurses violating HIPAA

Cosmetic procedures (botox, lip filler, liposuction, plastic surgery, etc.)

Niche memes about industries I’m not in (construction, car sales, landscaping, etc.)

Straight couples

Those man on the street videos where people shove a mic and a camera into a stranger’s face and ask them questions.

Full on tradwife shit

It’s not that these are all “bad” things or anything (though obviously some of them are absolute horseshit) it’s just that I Do Not Care, and no matter how many times I’m say this, I can’t avoid that content.

And I think that says a lot about how you can’t curate your own online experience anymore, without some algorithm trying to shove something down your throat.

[paranoidgemsbok]

Podcasts doing ad reads for fucking plastic surgery. Lip fillers n shit. Like shut the fuck up.

[drjaycalvertmd]

Dr. Jay Calvert & Dr. Millicent Rovelo discuss Breast Augmentation 101! Everything you need to know if you're considering a breast aug! From implant type - Silicone vs Saline, Implant placement - sub-muscular(under the muscle), sub-glandular(over the muscle), or sub-fascial, incision pattern, profile, creating cleavage, how to find the right surgeon for you, implant complications, common misconceptions, cost, and what you NEED to know BEFORE you show up for your consultation.

[kiefbowl]

You are probably aware of this given your interest in the topic, but some other interesting things to look at for the fucked up fertility industry (and how they absolutely don't give a fuck about their patients/clients or the children they produce):

This piece from reveal specifically talks about how fertility clinics downplay something as basic and fundamental as the health risks of twins and triplets.

https://revealnews.org/podcast/misconceptions/

Sarah Zhang (excellent science writer) has written a lot (mostly for The Atlantic) about fertility ethics and legal issues. In this piece, she talks about a case where a clinic mix up led to a couple using the wrong samples to conceive, and that only coming to light years later, and the ensuing legal case

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/07/ivf-embryo-mix-up-parenthood/593725/

I think I've already seen you talk about The Retrievals, but good lord that's fucked up.

Yes I did listen to the The Retrievals!! I think last month or the month before. Really lays bare how medicine is not exempt from cultural beliefs, with the juxtaposition of real medical issues (pain from lack of anesthesia) and the constructed medical issue (you want to conceive a baby) - the patriarchal constructed idea taking precedence over real women's pain. Highly recommend any feminist listen to it.

It definitely should come to no surprise to any feminist that the for-profit fertility and adoption industries looooove to lie, much like any industry! It comes in the form of lobbying, creative marketing, and of course just straight up lying to your customers. The fertility industry and the plastic surgery industry in my mind are holding hands in this way, that recovery from any of these procedures is easy, no worries, like magic. And of course, the over reliance on detached clinical language when it suits them (like in ads to egg donors...a sort of "you aren't using them, who cares!") just to flip to over reliance on pathos when it suits them ("we understand your internal need to hold a baby in your arms, it's more powerful than science" sort of talk), when really neither the emotional nor physical repercussions should be taken lightly. It's easy to persuade a young 20 something who needs money that her genetic material totally has no emotional weight, dude. just like it's easy to rely on the magical thinking that already exists in the cultural conscience to persuade women that pregnancy is sort of a nebulous, a baby is just small and then it just gets big, who knows what goes on in there process, instead of a long set of very specific biological processes that require many of your resources. Like, it really is your blood and energy and hormones making this baby, not just your "womb" doing "magic".

One of the things I find alarming is if you search "risks of egg donation" is how the results from all sorts of different .coms and .orgs are all over the place, with few linked sources, and a general blase attitude of how there are few proven risks to date...but also the process requires you to give yourself hormonal injections every single day for minimum two weeks. I'm not saying you should start believing conspiracies and think "well definitely there are risks being ignored and hidden on purpose", I'm just saying it follows a pattern in women's health, where things are understudied and the more convenient narrative is believed over trying to get data. What do we actual know about injecting hormones every day for two weeks (at least) for the long term? I don't know!!! There doesn't seem to be any serious data anywhere. Could be low risk, could be high risk, who cares!!! Do it three or four or five times for $$$ and you can find out in 5 or 40 years, if you're even believed.

[g-xix]

what’s your opinion on the hate towards faith kelly with people saying she has plastic surgery and that?? also people saying ethan should leave her

Heya mate, my opinion is that men in particular see Faith Kelly with hatred because of their lack of understanding, and moreover, a lot of them already hate Faith, and just choose to pick on her because they want to see her get grilled even more.

Towards the beginning of the introduction of Faith into the Sidemen fandom, everyone thought she was class. She made cute TikToks with him, she was (still is) gorgeous, she was the embodiment of a good girlfriend because she was new and nobody had any reason to dislike her.

As more of her personality grew and people began following her and what she did and said, I think lots of women began empathising with her, whereas lots of men began disliking her more and more.

Her first big controversy was the "Why the fuck did the pornstar sit on Ethan when Faith, his GIRLFRIEND was literally carrying his baby."

That was a BIG drama which I think reaaally divided the whole of the male and female demographic of the Sidemen fandom. Most women ((including myself)and some logical men) could empathise with Faith, because WHY did Ethan let that situation get that far? Having a girlfriend and letting a woman sit on you is bad behaviour on it's own, but the to extent of having a PREGNANT GIRLFRIEND, carrying YOUR BABY, allowing that to happen is absolutely stupid. Especially when Ethan had NUMEROUS opportunities to get up or say no to Mia Malkova sitting on his crotch, nonetheless.

And alternately, many (immature) men thought that Faith was overreacting, because look! Ethan's a YouTuber! He's an e n t e r t a i n e r... he gets a pass for these things because he just did it for a YouTube video, it's fine! To which I say... Shutthefuckupthat'ssomebullshit. It wasn't really a highlight of the video. It wasn't the funniest thing- it wasn't even really good content. The only "good" content that came out of it was Faith's TikTok's or Ethan having to explain himself on Sidecast's, and the only reason people enjoyed that was because they were allowed an opinion on the conflict and could watch the beef play out whilst also adding fuel to the fire with all their snide comments and keyboard warrior-ing.

It was really stupid in my opinion, that whole Mia Malkova, Sidemen Tinder conflict, because it shouldn't have happened; Ethan should've known better.

But that's the start of the Faith Kelly hate train. A few other things that have contributed to it are:

The fact she doesn't want to take Ethan's last name and rid her own. Ethan wants her to take his last name, "Payne". She wants to keep some of her family name and made a compromise, agreeing to go for "Payne-Kelly". I feel like Ethan's patriarchal values really spoke to me when he threw a little tantrum at the idea of that.

"permission slips": the name given to the action of Ethan checking with Faith whether he's good to go out. People called it "micromanaging" and "controlling" from Faith, but that's literally basic communication? Tell your partner you aren't available and check that you haven't got plans with them or signed up to something else beforehand...?

The podcast. Because apparently if you aren't interested in what they're doing and saying, you can't just scroll by without hate-commenting.

The fact that she has an Essex accent. People hate it and say "God I could never date a girl that sounds like that"... Then don't?

Her nose. Because she has a nose which literally fits the beauty standard, but some people still found ways to get angry.

And now there's the whole problem with the fact she got surgery.

I personally don't think there's a problem with getting surgery in the first place. If you're insecure about something and that's holding you back, change it; we have surgery available to all for a reason and if it's safe to do so, I see no problem with it.

Faith got bits n bobs of surgery done when she was younger, and she cleared up on an Instagram story, and which is also evident on an old clip of her on some TV dating show.

She had cheek fillers, chin fillers, jaw fillers and lip fillers (which I'm certain of, I don't know of any others if i'm honest). And that was because she didn't like her face shape and thought that to be more pretty, she ought to get those done.

Since then, she's used 5ml dissolver (im not too sure what exactly she said she got done but there was the number 5 somewhere, and she said that all filler had now DEFFO been dissolved) and gotten all filler removed from her face, leaving her with a softer, more heart shaped face and what is in my opinion, an overall prettier face. Beauty of course is in the eye of the beholder.

Now whilst I can empathise with Faith for being insecure when she was younger and thus getting surgery which she in later life dissolved as she realised she was happy with her face, I know that the male "Faith-Hating" population cannot.

This is likely because of the belief that plastic surgery = fake, fake, fake = bad, bad, bad. This is quite a common view which I believe that men and older generations uphold; surgery is for those who focus only on aesthetics and makes you fake which means you aren't naturally pretty aka makes a woman worth less. A very crude explanation of the patriarchal view on plastic surgery.

I think this view is quite shallow and superficial in itself because it lacks engagement with a what? argument, because whilst males can identify that women (may) get surgery out of insecurity, they cannot engage WHAT the problem with that is.

What is the big problem regarding a women deciding to change her face slightly? What does it matter to you if someone makes their lips slightly puffier? What effects does it have on your life whereby you feel the need to then go onto Faith's page and tell Ethan that HE NEEDS TO LEAVE HER!!!!

Hence moving onto the "Ethan should leave her" opinion, I think it's absolutely shocking.

Lacks grace, etiquette and fundamental respect to HARASS someone who you look up to- someone who you (perhaps) IDOLISE just to command them that they must leave their girlfriend.

And I've seen these comments time after time.

Why do they tell Ethan that he must leave Faith?

Because of the permission slips. God forbid having a girlfriend that controlling, that she'd want to know when her boyfriend wouldn't be home so that she can plan out her day accordingly.

Because she argues with Ethan on the podcast. Quite ironic that their little bickers over the little things have people thinking that they are always arguing and completely toxic. Wait til those fans hear about banter between friends.

Because she's "the type" to cheat. This one was mind-bogglingly stupid: people were telling Ethan that Faith is the type to cheat, whilst she claimed to have a little celeb crush on Haaland. For those who don't know, this is Haaland:

He obviously isn't an absolute stone cold stunner, but he's quite sweet. A little celeb crush on him is v reasonable. But for some reason, these thickos just cannot understand that having a celeb crush DOES NOT MEAN SHE'S GONNA CHEAT!!!!!

The whole REASON for a celeb crush is the sort of idolisation that someone is so cute and dreamy and that it's find to have that crush because it's not like you'll ever meet them or have a chance with them... i mean, that's literally the definition of having Hall Passes in relationships!

I bet the situation would be 10x bloody worse and somehow still anti!Faith, if Ethan said that he had a celeb crush on... idk SELENA GOMEZ or someone famous n gorg like that, and Faith said "what so you'd cheat on me for her?", voicing Ethan's fans in her Haaland-situation.

And I think a lot of these scenarios follow that logic.

Flip the roles around- assume Faith said/did the things that Ethan does to her, but instead did those to Ethan...

The Sidemen incellular-fanboys would go off their rockers. How dare she! She's such a cheater! He should leave her!

In summary, I think the spawn of the hate towards Faith Kelly is born out of patriarchal, hypocritical double standards from a male demographic of teenaged Sidemen-fans who cannot yet develop empathy and understanding to anything Faith does, and due to their own self-important ignorance, refuse to even try empathise with Faith and thus instead of choosing to educate themselves and understand- they take the easy route and decide to send her sexist and unjust hate instead.

Sorry for the waffle and hope that makes just enough sense for atl one person to read this and think "you know what, that isn't half untrue"

[not proofchecked, ignore spelling errors]

[na19love]

Inside the sinister world of the Sussex Squad online trolls making Kate Middleton’s life a misery with bullying and lies!

The Squad getting called out at last

THEY branded themselves the Sussex Squad, carrying out some of the worst online bullying of the Princess of Wales

Their campaign of hate began when they peddled sick conspiracy theories around Kate’s abdominal surgery, claiming she was the victim of domestic violence, was in the middle of a divorce from Prince William or hiding away after plastic surgery.

Even when the princess last week bravely told the world she is undergoing chemotherapy, the cyberbullies claimed her video was AI-generated.

Behind some of the worst trolling is a group using the hashtag # Sussexsquad who have made outlandish claims about Kate in defence of their heroine, the Duchess of Sussex.

Their chief cheerleader is US tech entrepreneur Christopher Bouzy, who appeared on the Sussexes’ Netflix documentary Harry & Meghan to call out online hate.

Here is Bouzy openly accusing William of domestic violence on a podcast days ago

Ugly inside and out

...

And the trolls cruelly claim Prince William threw his wife “under a bus” after the princess admitted tweaking her annual Mother’s Day picture

We spoke to three people who claim they have been trolled mercilessly and sent frightening messages for speaking out about the squad.

The women claim they have been doxxed — had private details leaked — on Twitter/X, while their families and friends have been hounded on social media.

One told us how she was subject to a smear campaign which alleged she was complicit in a family member’s death.

She was also sent an email with her home address and picture of her house from Google maps.

One victim told us: “They dig deep to find out everything about you.

“They dox your name on Twitter and hound any family members — even young kids — linked to you via social media.

“Then they start hounding your place of employment, kids’ schools and spreading terrible rumours about you.

“In one case, they called a friend’s place of work and started screeching death threats to staff.

“They contacted her teenage daughters and started threatening them. They do everything they can to get you deplatformed (removed from social media) by making complaints.

(These people are sick in the head)

A third said: “Most of the main royal accounts have been targeted over the years. Around 200 accounts were bullied off Twitter with the constant relentless harassment from the squad.”

On a now-deleted post on the Sussex Squad podcast page, one Meghan supporter warned: “If you come on our platforms you lose your right to privacy. We will find you, call your jobs, contact your families etc. Try it and see what will happen.

Interesting article...

[transmutationisms]

ok i was waiting for the kettle to boil and thinking about that baudelaire poem that goes like "i leave to gavarni, poet of chlorosis, his troupe of babbling hospital beauties, for i can find among them no rose red enough to satisfy me" or whatever idk i translated it a million years ago. but like. would baudelaire not be such a peak "internet consumerist tiktokers are ruining society" tumblr poster. can you not see him on here listening to raquel s benedict's podcast and rephrasing uncredited rayne fisher quann tweets into long melodramatic posts for the rad adjacent anti plastic surgery set. sorry

[edenfenixblogs]

Cactus and sage for the ask game!! 🌵🌿

cactus ⇢ something you’re currently learning (about)?

Norman-era English history

sage ⇢ what ‘medium’ of art (poetry, music, fiction, paintings, statues etc.) is the most touching to you? why do you think that is?

This is impossible. No art is most touching to me. They’re all equally touching. I will say that my medium of preference is writing in terms of what I put effort into and what I give as a finished product to others. I enjoy drawing as a hobby that relaxes me—but it’s for me, not others. But I LOOOOOVE looking at other people’s art—paintings, photos, fanart, sculpture etc. Serialized narrative media in general (book series, TV, podcasts) is my passion. I spent many years as an actress and performer and still appreciate a good performance, but I got tired of my body being my actual literal business and feeling like I had to ask other people permission for how I was allowed to look. I think acting is a truly fulfilling art form when one is allowed to just perform. It’s beautifully collaborative and it teaches truths about humanity. But it also allows you to hide in the fictional person you’re being. I avoided processing trauma for years, because I never had to confront my real problems when I could instead use them to bring other people to life. I really respect actors. It’s such a difficult life in a way that people who haven’t done it will never understand. You spend so little time feeling your own emotions or controlling your own body. It’s no surprise to me that so many actors develop serious substance problems or eating disorders or crazy plastic surgery or other issues. When you can’t do the work internally it’s easy to look for external solutions. And you have to do all of that while people feel entitled to your body and time and effort. And yet, when you melt into a character, it’s magical in a way that’s unique to that experience. And when someone performs so well you forget it’s all a performance? It’s transcendent. It’s ephemeral and only exists as long as you’re looking at it, and then it’s gone. Especially on stage. What an amazing thing humans have done by developing an entire art that by its nature is built in front of you every time and then have it disappear.

I’m also a huge fan of practical arts — woodwork, knitting, crochet, embroidery, fashion and design, etc. I love the idea of making something that lasts and gets use. I love that every time I sit at a table, I can think about the human being who learned the art of carving it and assembling it. I like that someone can put art on a piece of fabric and suddenly it becomes beautiful to look at and a comfortable throw pillow. I love that someone can knit a blanket that will delight my eyes and keep me cozy on movie night.

And there’s so many other forms of art that I haven’t even been able to address here.

Art is magic. Every form. What’s the point of asking what kind of magic is most magical? It’s all fantastic and important.

[battleangel]

Why Cant I Be Naked Outside?

Ive been naked inside of my apartment all day for the past two days.

Im a full-time freelance podcaster.

What started out as pure laziness and a response to an arthritis flareup turned into a thought experiment:

What would happen if I went outside naked right now?

Why cant I go outside like this? Who am I hurting?

One of the biggest bullshit programming in American soeicty from the literal time we are "born" is you cant be naked outside.

Lifelong conditioning, programming, brainwashing and endless reinforcements.

And I literally cant walk outside right now naked without potentially being arrested, harrassed, assaulted, raped, abducted and/or killed.

The societal programming against public nudity is both conscious and subconscious, subtle and overt, transparent & hidden, embedded & obvious.

Why cant I go outside naked?

Bullshit automatic responses:

•Safety

•Hygiene

•"Public decency".

Lmao.

"Order & morality".

Big fucking yikes.

Why does the state have an "interest"?

Hygiene is such a crock.

The people who say omg!hygiene like the ones who commented my tiktok in my underwear are all full of shit.

The lie is vaginal discharge, menstrual bleeding and STIs (genital warts & herpes, etc) could potentially infect and/or transmit diseases, bacteria, germs, etc on public chairs, benches, seats, stadiums, etc if people werent wearing underwear.

So, they claim not wearing underwear is "unhygienic" therefore public nudity laws are necessary.

So, if I go outside in underwear that covers my butt and pussy and nothing else, were good to go right?

Ofcourse not, because there are topless laws for women.

Nipples are outlawed.

There isnt the slightest pretense about hygiene.

They just screech about "teh childrenz!" (who also have nipples btw) and "public decency" and they throw in a lie about how its "unsafe for women" when they would be the first ones out there raping the first woman who had her tits out.

Yeah, okay.

Its not about "morality", "order", "decency", "hygiene" or "safety".

Its about motherfucking control, repression, paternalism, the patriarchy, misogyny, sexualizing the female body, the contrived creation of the "forbidden" and the "taboo", its about making people hate their bodies, shame, repression, forced guilt, sex is bad, hiding the body, no confidence, never flaunting, women never owning their sexuality, Madonna/whore complex, virginity as a prized communal possession, virgin as status and trophy, women presenting themselves to men to be consumed, women presenting themselves as objects of desire, equating femininity with demureness and being ladylike with being pure innocent and virginal, female obsession with clothes hair makeup jewelry endlesd adornments plastic surgery dieting through othering their own bodied by keeping it hidden under bras underwears Spanx Skims undergarments girdles slips tights stockings skirts dresses jeans pants shorts corsets socks knee highs thigh highs, othering mystifying commodifying & pornifying the female body by keeping it hidden in real life from men until they lose their virginity and creating an environment where men depersonalize the female body and make it a vessel of their endless wet dreams and masturbatory fantasies.

If everyone was naked from jump street (we are but we dont stay that way), noone would give a shit.

Nudist colonies and beaches are like that, nudity is the everyday norm so noone reacts, cares, stares, points, ridicules, insults, harrasses, etc.

They all just go about their day at the beach, eating, shopping -- so then, why cant we all do that at non-nudist colonies & beaches?

Please.

They want the rapes, sexual assaults, molestation, sexual abuse, hebephilia, pedophilia, sex addictions and compulsions, sex disorders, repressions & traumas.

Its a tool of societal control to control the populace just like violence is.

US has the most violence per capita in the world.

Gun deaths, shootings, stabbings and murders.

It doesnt have to be this way.

They want it this way.

Why are my vulva, labia and nipples such a problem?

Why has my naked female body been so sexualized, otherized & dehumanized?

Why is a natural thing -- my naked female human body as is -- something that is met with such force, sexualized violence, oppression, repressed desires, rage, outrage, anger, terror, shock, revulsion, arrests, being killed while in custody, jailed, convicted, fined?

Why cant I just walk outside like this, fully naked, and check the mail all of two minutes away and then walk right back to my apartment without saying anything or interacting with anyone?

Why does my landlord care?

Why does the mailman care?

Why does the white stay at home Karen, her dry ass husband and Little Timmy and Madison care?

Why does the maintenance man at my apartment complex care?

Why do my three neighbors in my apartment complex -- all male and single -- one downstairs under me, one upstairs and one downstairs in the unit next to me care?

Why does the person walking their dog care?

Why does the doordash delivery driver care?

Why does the school bus driver care?

Why does a naked female body elicit such strong, visceral, ugly, vicious, violent, unhinged responses?

[drjaycalvertmd]

Dr. Jay Calvert & Dr. Millicent Rovelo discuss Breast Augmentation 101! Everything you need to know if you're considering a breast aug! From implant type - Silicone vs Saline, Implant placement - sub-muscular(under the muscle), sub-glandular(over the muscle), or sub-fascial, incision pattern, profile, creating cleavage, how to find the right surgeon for you, implant complications, common misconceptions, cost, and what you NEED to know BEFORE you show up for your consultation.

[aviculor]

I'm watching the Dead Meat Podcast ep on Longlegs and they're bringing up a pretty important thing. The timeline.

There was never any evidence of his presence inside the homes, which is highly unlikely if he did what he did to the Harkers to literally anyone else. Was that supposed to be like the only time he ever forced his way into a house and physically attacked someone? Getting Ruth as an accomplice obviously made giving families the dolls easier, but we're supposed to believe no one else in his early days was like "get away from my daughter, you fucking creep"?

And there was no trace of Ruth? Witnesses? A nun carrying a big box to the doorstep right before the killings? Sitting on their sofa while the killings happen? If she was the one leaving the letters, there must have been fingerprints. How was she never linked to the Birthday Murders?

Lee's actions, particularly when Longlegs paid her cabin a visit to leave her the cipher key, imply she's not a very good cop. She might have been led by the nose through her academy training by her psychic powers which were because of the doll which was because of Longlegs.

What was the point of it all? Why leave the notes? Why help Lee's investigation? Was it all just to sow chaos because ooh spooky devil worship? Was Ruth rejecting the doll really worth it for Longlegs to spend the next 20+ years of his life orchestrating Lee killing her? To the point that he considered his life's work completed once he finished setting that up? I mean, I guess it is a more tangible motive than just "mwahaha devil demands sacrifice". But it's not exactly satisfying? idk, I know Oz Perkins wanted to make Longlegs seem like an offputting loser rather than glorifying a serial killer as "cool" or "interesting". But it's like there's this whole other story that got trimmed for brevity. Between the glam rock obsession and the song released on Youtube and his face looking like a series of botched plastic surgeries, it's *implied* Dale Kobbler was a wannabe rock star. Probably not a real one because then there would have been something the FBI could have dug up about him.

But I guess in the end, it didn't need to have ironclad internal logic because it was an incredible film from all technical standpoints. It ticked all the boxes for me. I fucking loved it.