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dreadfutures · 10 months ago

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Loving LUMO: 2018 to Present :)

Just up in my feelings about my dog today. He's doing great! I love my dog! I just wanna talk about him. A lot. :) Like this is looooong.

I got my dog at the end of my senior year of undergrad, after I knew I got into a PhD program. I knew I couldn't make it through alone so I wanted a dog.

When I was young, I wanted a wolf! I wanted big fluffy scary looking dogs. Then I wanted a pretty, fluffy, exotic dog. But as I grew older and actually MET dogs (I didn't have a lot of them in my life before), I realized that those weren't the dog breeds for me. I wanted a dog that fit my lifestyle, but also a dog that NEEDED a home, and love. And I wanted to make an impact, rescuing a breed that was often found in overflowing shelters in the US.

Why coonhounds? **mentions of animal abuse, skip to the next section

In California, shelters are primarily full of huskies, chihuahuas, german shepherds, and pitbulls. Since I didn't know where I was going to live or what the ordinances would be, I reluctantly decided I couldn't get a pitty. Many of the chihuahuas, huskues, and GSDs in shelters have serious health problems, probably coming from puppy mills and unethical breeding situations. I knew that any dog could develop an expensive health condition (foreshadowing) but I wanted to find a breed where that was less likely to happen.

I had read that the less "pretty" working dogs are usually better bred. They're smart, learn quickly, and (many hunting dogs) are content with long lazy seasons on the couch. I also learned that hunting dogs are abused and abandoned after hunting season, especially when people get "hunting breeds" and assume all the complex training of hunting is instinctive--it's not, it must be trained. But these "Defective"/"Failed" hunting dogs are let go to freeze and starve, and shelters can't take all of them. Someone called them the chihuahua of the south lol.

“It is sad when they treat these dogs as ‘tools’ they can throw away, instead of treating them like family members.”

Whether dumped or lost, these hunting dogs end up in local shelters, if they’re lucky. Many times they end up shot, hit by cars, or die of starvation or disease.

Believe me I read up on all the downsides of adopting a rescue vs. getting a purebred puppy from a breeder. I read up on all the downsides of hunting breeds. And even so I knew this was probably going to be a good fit.

I also found Maddie on instagram, who is a gorgeous redtick coonhound and possibly the most well-trained dog in the world. I was convinced and turned to a national Coonhound Rescue that takes coonhounds from the south and moves them across the country to be loved in places where they're not so common.

Finding Lu

I originally did want a female redtick that looked like Maddie, so I put in an application for one. The rescue called me and said they had another dog in mind for me and my lifestyle, "But he has a lot of skin! That means he drools A LOT."

His name was Dallas.

Dallas is a handsome 2 year old American English Coonhound being fostered in [city]. He enjoys the simple life and loves nothing more than a warm, comfy place to sleep. He is housetrained, cratetrained and leashtrained; also good in the car. He would do well in a home with slightly older children and would make an excellent companion. This boy wants a loving and consistent family or person to show him how great his life can be. He weighs about 55 lbs and also does well with cats and other dogs.

This is the photo I was sent. :) I fell in love. This was going to be my dog! MY DOG. My first dog. Mine.

I was told he had been found on the streets, emaciated and sick, and that he had become an absolute counter surfer and couch potato in his foster home. And he could climb 10 ft fences if he saw a cat lol. They said he had "anxiety," but as I learned it was severe, severe PTSD from abuse.

I was originally going to name him Mo. For "Mopey." He had the saddest brown eyes and emo eyeliner, it seemed to fit. But "Mo" sounds a lot like "No!" and I soon realized they weren't kidding about hounds being independent and strong-willed. I still wanted "Mo" to be part of his name, but decided on LUMO as a chemistry reference since it was very relevant to my subfield I was going into. So he became "Lu."

The very first day I took him home, he had explosive diarrhea all over the car and there were no dog bathing places taking walk ins, so I had to haul his 35 pounds of skin and bones into the bath. Intense bonding experience to be sure.

He was so, so skinny. You can see in the photos how knobby his tail is, and how you can count his spine, and how all his ribs and his hips stick out. People would come up to me at restaurants and YELL at me "don't you FEED YOUR DOG?????? how can you be so cruel?" as if there wasn't a possibility that I was rescuing an emaciated and abused dog?

I thought he was skinny because of his past on the streets, and I think that was part of it for sure. But what I learned was that he wasn't just having digestive issues because he was "adjusting to his kibble" -- he's actually allergic to chicken, and he was on a chicken diet.

He was losing a lot of weight from the diarrhea, and he was SO itchy, and he had constant infections in those big, soft ears. We did a lot of elimination to figure out his allergies and he's actually allergic to a lot of things, but chicken is by far the worst.

As soon as I switched him to salmon, he started gaining weight really well, shooting up to a healthy 50 pounds. He also stopped getting constant ear infections!

The trauma

So the thing about Lu is that he isn't just "anxious." Anxious doesn't describe him:

He was terrified of blond men with sunglasses. Like just wanted to melt into the ground and phase through walls levels of terrified. My best friend and room mate was a blond man who wore sunglasses all the time. Fortunately he had grown up on an Estate with a whole bunch of working dogs and was so good at helping me get him over his fear. He was afraid of strangers in general, but none as much as blond and bald guys.

He was GREAT on leash from the start! But randomly, he would just...stop. Freeze, plant his feet, stare glassy-eyed into the distance at nothing at all. Nothing in particular triggered it. Not sounds, not anything I could identify in common. Just sometimes...he'd just freeze and shut down. I had to carry him sometimes as far as a football field to get home. Often it was right in the middle of the street. :( After ten or so minutes of staring, he would come-to, and he would sit down and look around all disoriented.

Also I had been warned about how some dogs "pull" on leash. It turns out that most people are talking about pulling...ahead. And training a dog who pulls ahead is WAY different than a dog who tries to pull backwards. Lu was so skinny that he could slip out of his harness, no matter what size of his harness. I quickly learned there was no tying him off and going into restaurants by myself, because he could EASILY chew through any leash in a few seconds, and he could slip right out of his harness and just DIP. But even on walks, during his PTSD flashback moments, he could pull back so hard his arms would come up by his head and he'd just noodle out of his harness.

He was terrified of stairs. Going up and down. My bedroom was on the second floor. The beach was down a steep flight of stairs.

He had no idea how to play with other dogs at all.

He was scared of grass. It was as if he had never stepped on grass before and thought it was lava. I'm suspicious that he might have been trapped in a concrete outdoor dog run or kennel for most of his young life.

He had persistent UTIs... and he counter surfed and ate a whole stick of butter, and went into acute pancreatic failure.

He had some sort of paw trauma. it was impossible to touch his paws, let alone clip his nails. No matter how skinny and weak he was, it took more than 5 people to hold him down long enough to clip his nails. He was terrible at the groomers. Dremels weren't any betters.

Pretty early on I had to settle for "progress" over "perfect."

We took baby steps together. From May to August, he became so much more outgoing. He fell in love with my two tall blond sunglasses guy friends. He started learning to get excited about toys. And we developed a routine so he wouldn't destroy my room when I left him alone.

I had to respect that he definitely, 100%, always knew what I wanted him to do when I gave him commands. And when he refused and said "No," there was no food, no toy, no incentive I could give him to get him to do it. At least not that time.

When I first moved to grad school that September, I had a lot of people in my cohort come over to my apartment. Lu hid under my bed the whole time and wouldn't take any treats to coax him out. We lay a whole pack of turkey in front of him and he wouldn't come out. :(

But within a few months, he had a growing circle of human friends that he was comfortable with. And honestly even by October of that year, if a new stranger came to the apartment, all they had to do was get up on the couch and offer him a Merrick toothbrush treat and he'd be in their lap.

Here he is with his companion cube in early 2019. He loved that suede couch lol.

Health issues :(

So because he ate a whole stick of butter and went into acute pancreatitis, we started monitoring his blood levels. They got better after treatment--but never back to "normal." They remained at the "hmm this looks like renal failure, Cirrhosis, or hepatopathy" levels, which was weird, because he was constantly getting happier and acting healthier every day!!

Eventually a vet suggested we see an internal medicine specialist. Turns out.... Lu's liver is like. Tiny. Like puppy sized. He has had this disease since he was a baby, which is why he's never known he was sick lol.

After about 9k of imaging and stains and biopsies, we learned:

He has copper hepatopathy, which today my new vet's jaw dropped as a like "WOW we HEARD about this in vet school but I've NEVER actually seen it! It's so rare!"

His liver is tiny, full of fibrosis, cirrhotic, tons of remodeling (in the bad way). His liver is ORANGE from how much copper is in it. The damage is completely irreversible. I have a copy of the biopsy & lab results and I can just imagine the scientist at the research institute they sent the samples off to, their voice as they wrote this report. It screams "HOW IS THIS DOG ALIVE?"

I just find it so funny, as another analytical scientist.

The other funny thing is that they prescribed him chelation therapy to help him get better (it didn't help and he doesn't get worse without it, so we have since stopped that; it was expensive). My PhD thesis is in metal chelation lolololol of Ni, Co, Cu. lololol

So that was an expensive process. He has to have a prescription low-copper diet, which has stopped most of his symptoms of this disease, and we have to do expensive blood tests to make sure he doesn't get worse.

And then he became a sock eater.

He passed the first few. Then he got sick. With the vet's help, he was able to pass it without surgery. And then the next time, it was life or death.

The vet I went to was so unethical and immoral but it was my only fucking option. I wouldn't have my dog here if my best friend at the time hadn't been wealthy enough to give me the 13k I needed on the spot, in cash, to save my dog's life with surgery.

In the hospital, the fucking awful vets:

claimed to use dissolving stitches. I don't think they did; I still feel them! 4 years later!!!

let him get a skin infection all over his body that made his paws swell up and bleed, and his paw pads fall off and bleed. It was terrifying. And cost me more money of course. It was so evil. He still has scarring all over his legs from it where fur hasn't grown back :(

He has bad teeth but according to the vet "not the worst! :)"

He expresses his glands in his sleep sometimes. UGHHHH they don't tell you that about dogs lol.

He still is terrible for claws. It's been worse and worse lately, to the point where I worry about how long his nails are and whether it will be bad for his joints. But it's the only thing he's really ever been aggressive for. :( I really worry about him. I have trained him to scratch a board of sandpaper to file them down, but they get sharp that way too lol.

Progress, not perfect. He lets me give him paw massages and check his nails and manhandle him, but just. Not clippers or dremel. :( Not there yet.

Anyway, he has been super healthy for many years now. He's got lumps and bumps and skin tags. The vet thinks he's about 9 years old, and definitely a senior. ;_; <3

Things I Love about LUMO

His ears are, I'm not kidding, the softest material in the world. And so warm. He loves it when I stick my finger in his ear and tickle his brain. He loves an armpit scratch. His tail used to be like, stuck, in such a sad position and I never thought he'd wag his tail and now it waves high all the time.

They told me he would probably never be a dog who plays. But when I got him, within a few weeks, I found the puppy inside of him. He runs like a silly rocking horse, completely uncoordinated and flopsy. He'll do fetch. He loves surgically disemboweling stuffed animals. He throws around his XTREME CHEW PLASTIC ANTLER and plays fetch with it with me.

He has several "spots" where I can get his leg thumping when I scratch him. He loves to be wrapped up in a burrito of blankets and sit in a sunbeam.

He leans on me and looks up at me with those big brown eyes and there's no fear or sadness in them anymore it's just sweetness and silliness.

He is so smart. He's attended a bunch of PhD level classes, and he's developed his own language. He's so smart. He knows how to tell me what he wants, he knows the rules and knows how to push them right up to the limit. He loves his sweaters. He will tell me what he wants by tapping on things with his paw. He knows that if I hold out my left hand it's to hold his paw and do a shake. If I hold out my right hand it means wait. He knows that the camera I have can see him and he'll knock it over so he can do mischief.

He loves his velvet chaise lounge. He loves his memory foam ultrasoft velvet bed. He loves his goose down comforter. He loves to sit on my pillow and fart. He basks in sunbeams and curls up in a tiny tiny little ball and he shrimps and sucks on his toes. He's basically a cat. He doesn't really want to go on walks, he pulls me back inside as soon as he's done his business. Except for when we have company--he loves walking with a pack of people.

When he talks to me, like just having a conversation, he sounds like a seal. Like a tortured seal. Or like a crying baby. He's never really figured out how to be a dog or sound like a real dog but we understand each other that's what matters.

He absolutely takes advantage of this to complain when I am not giving him what he wants. He'll roll over on the ground like a drama queen and wail and cry like I'm abusing him and it's because I'm across the room holding a pork chop that's just for me.

Today in the car he was WAILING like a seal, which usually means "LET ME OUT I NEED TO POOP" but after 3 or 4 tries to walk him, he made it clear that what he ACTUALLY meant was "PEDAL TO THE METAL GIRLS LET'S GO WHY AREN'T WE MOVING WHY IS THERE NO WIND ON MY FACE OR FLAPPING IN MY EARS MOOOOOOOOOVE."

For a while he was 69 pounds (NICE) but he's back to 64 lol. He stays between 63-70 pretty much depending on how active he is.

Anyway I have been reminiscing a lot because I figured it was time to add him to the "happy endings" page on the rescue website and I was going down memory lane.

Looking at the photo I took on the day I brought him home, and a photo I took last month, you can see his white face is spreading.

The defined white bit on his nose that whispers between his eyes has now spread to both his eyebrows, and his cheeks are getting quite white. But his eyes are bright and his ears are perked up and he is safe and warm and loved and stinky and soft. He gets fresh treats all the time (he loooooves celery, and pears, and sometimes carrots and sweet potatoes. and tortilla chips. and salmon oil.). He loves his prescription kibble and our routine. He has lovely friends and lovely car rides and he is just the best dog I could have asked for in my life when I got him and every day.

I've had to be so patient and calm and kind even when I was scared and angry, with his stress and his ptsd and his destructiveness and messiness. All he deserves and needs is love and he knows what's wrong and what isn't, sometimes he just can't help himself, and we move on together. He made sure I had a reason to come home and not sleep in lab during my PhD. He made sure I had a reason to get out of bed during my PhD.

And now we're just living our best lives together. :)

#personal #loving lumo #dogs of tumblr #idk if that's a thing #rescue dog #coonhound

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rosenrot234 · 4 months ago

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First 2 pics are Peach as a baby. Mom found them on the breeders facebook. Pic 3 is a more recent pic of her.

Look at these chonky little sausages. ( If folks ask, I would have preferred to adopt a shelter pittie but Peach was part of an accidental litter and was the runt. I have too big a soft spot for runts since I'm a premie )

Mama Pitbull was putting in the work, those were some fat puppies

#pitbull #bully breed #her full name is Princess Peach for those that wonder on the pitbull tag

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lucylulu92 · 1 month ago

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Okay... uhhh.... ANYONE!!!! CAN ANYONE HELP ME PLEASE??? I REALLY WANT TO FIND A GOLDEN RETRIEVER/PITBULL MIX!! A puppy!! Like a breeder... can anyone tell me where there is a breeder for this cross-breed ANYWHERE in the US?? Please? Sorry I'm all amped up. It's just... yeah. Please? Pretty please? (Also, thank you)

#dog #dog where #golden retriever/pitbull mix #breeders anywhere for this breed??#help me please!!!!

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is-the-owl-video-cute · 1 year ago

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One thing I rarely hear brought up in the pitbull debate is the idea of making them legal to own, but only if spayed or neutered. Breeding bully mixes is the act that should be restricted, not owning them. I feel like both sides can agree on these two points:

1) Pitbulls/Bully mixes are not suitable for every home

Bully mixes are big strong dogs with a terriers drive and stubbornness. In inexperienced hands, this is a recipe for disaster. Even if their agressiveness towards humans is highly overblown, they're still more likely to be dog aggressive than many other breeds, and pretending that they're not just puts others people's pets at risk. Are they the only aggressive breed? Of course not, but you don't hear the Belgian Malinois people saying that they're easy going, low maintenance family dogs. A properly trained and socialized bully can be a wonderful family pet, great with everyone, dogs and cats included. But an improperly raised one can easily become 50lbs of muscle and teeth yanking the lead and hurling itself towards Granny and her little white maltishizpoo, and that's not going to turn out well for anyone. While it's true that every dog is a big commitment, and any dog can turn out aggressive, ignoring the unique challenges you face training a bully breed is just going to end up hurting the breed's reputation in the long run.

2) There are more bully mixes in the US than homes that want them.

It's no secret that US shelters have more bully mixes than basically any other type of dog, and these dogs are much more likely to put down than other breeds. I believe ethically breeding dogs is a good thing, as not every home is right for every dog, and there's nothing wrong with wanting a dog with predictable traits (as long as you do your due diligence to find a breeder who health tests the parents, and maybe don't pick one of the breeds that are genetic hot messes, but I digress). However, I don't see how it's possible for anyone to ethically breed bully type dogs while you can walk into basically any shelter in the US and have your pick. This includes bully puppies too, at least in my area, so you can't even make the "starting from a blank slate" argument.

Idk, to me this seems like a solution both sides should be able to agree on. Yes, it sucks that irresponsible people are ruining a good breed (though tbh the breeders are already doing that themselves, just google micro bully or XL bully to see the extremes these dogs are being deliberately bred too). People who want the drive of a terrier can seek out one of the many other midsized terrier breeds. People who just want a family pet will start finding actual lab mixes in the shelter, as opposed to bringing home bully mixes that may be more dog than they're prepared for.

If there are arguments against making breeding bully type dogs illegal (apart from the dumb "well you can't enforce it 100% so why even bother" type stuff), I genuinely would love to hear them. I don't have anything against the people who love bullies and who adopt those dogs from shelters, y'all are doing a good thing

(Also, shelters who refuse to euthanize aggressive dogs and in general lie to cover up dogs' issues: you're making the problem so much worse. Maybe people would be more willing to adopt bully mixes if there weren't so many stories of people adopting a dog only to end up with a dog with issues they can't handle)

Man I’m fully just answering this ask to get it out of my inbox because I’m sick of having to scroll by it when I’m looking for something.

Just because there isn’t a character limit in asks anymore doesn’t mean there’s not a limit to how much you can plague me with before I simply don’t read it. I still haven’t read more than two sentences of this and I don’t intend to because yes there should be regulations on who can breed ANY dog breed in the interest of ensuring ethical practice is followed, no this doesn’t make sense to just apply to one type of dog because “it’s not good for every home” that’s such a non-argument because most working breeds are also not good for every home.

#Anyway I’m not reading this whole speech so if that’s also what anon said oops #I’m not going to read the thesis paper in my inbox

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automaticlovercomputer · 10 months ago

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What Is a Micro Bully Puppy?

Micro Bullies represent one of the recent and most in-demand hybrid breeds in the American Bully family. These dogs closely resemble their larger counterparts but are the smallest and lightest version of the breed. Instead of being purebred, a Micro Bully is a combination of a Pocket Bully and a Patterdale Terrier. To elaborate further, the Pocket Bully, sometimes called a Pocket Pitbull, is a crossbreed of an American Bully and a Patterdale Terrier, resulting in a smaller size compared to the Standard Bully. The Micro Bully maintains the robust Bully appearance but is intentionally bred to be even smaller by introducing another Terrier into the mix. These hybrids fall under the category of Exotic Bully breeds and gained recognition as a distinct breed around 2008, with the Micro Bully being the latest addition.

This lineage of dogs is highly sought after due to their attractiveness, intelligence, and family-friendly nature. Similar to other designer-cross breeds like the Labradoodle and Cockapoo, blending the American Bully with the Patterdale Terrier allows for the preservation of familiar features while incorporating other desirable traits. Consequently, there is a growing interest in acquiring this remarkable hybrid, which offers the strongest and most compact version of a Bully dog currently available.

Know About A Bully Dog

A Bully dog, also referred to as a Bully Pit, Exotic, or Extreme Bully, originated in the 1980s in the United States and officially became a recognized breed in 2004. The term "Bully Dog" is a broad description encompassing various dogs characterized by a muscular and blocky appearance. This term includes dogs with "bull" in their names, such as the American Pitbull, French Bulldog, and the English Bulldog. Some believe that the American Bulldog, Old English Bulldog, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier contributed to the development of the American Bully breed.

Distinguishing between the different types of Exotic Bully breeds within the American Bully bloodlines can be perplexing. As this is a relatively recent breed with evolving standards, references to authorities like the American Bully Kennel Club can clarify the primary distinctions in breed types. It's crucial to recognize that Micro, Standard, Pocket, and XL Bullies essentially represent the same dog, differing only in height. In contrast, the Classic Bully is distinguished by its particular type.

The Size Of Classic Bully, Pocket, and Micro Bully Puppy

The Classic Bully is a bit smaller than the standard American Bully, standing 16-20" tall, and weighing less than 60 lbs.

Pocket Bullies, are 14-19" tall, with weight varying based on their muscular build. Retaining the strong qualities cherished by bully breed enthusiasts, these dogs are occasionally known as Pocket Pitbulls or Shorty Bullies.

The Micro Bully is a smaller category within Pocket Bullies, staying under 16" tall and weighing less than 50 lbs when fully grown. Despite their size, they have a sturdy and muscular build, inheriting traits from Exotic Bully breeds but in a more compact form.

These dogs are great for smaller homes or yards, fitting in well with families. They are often referred to as Miniature Pitbulls, but it's essential to distinguish them from the separate Pitbull and American Bully breeds.

The Cost Of A Micro Bully Puppy

The cost of a Micro Bully puppy depends on your plans for the dog. If you're getting one for breeding from a top-notch bloodline, it will be more expensive compared to a puppy intended as a family pet. It's crucial to buy from a trustworthy breeder to avoid getting a larger Bully falsely labeled as a Micro. For instance, Venom, a well-known Micro Exotic Bully in the United States, produces similar puppies that can begin at approximately $9,000.

#dog #microbully #doggo

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irondenkennels1 · 1 year ago

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Is A Pitbull Bully Kennels

We raise extraordinary and well-bred Pitbull Bullies at our exclusive Pitbull Bully Kennels, where we take great delight. Our kennel is committed to breeding top-quality dogs, with an emphasis on temperament, well-being, and outstanding physical characteristics.

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nunuisancenewt · 1 month ago

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So Shelter Euthanasia rates have been going up the past few years, disappointingly reversing the trend in the 2010s, especially for dogs, and Gen Z are more likely to get an animal from a breeder over a shelter then millenials are

Beyond the numerical data I just wanna talk about some cultural trends I’ve noticed on social media, that reflect how people think about dogs and adoption

First, theres the obvious material comparison to get out of the way, more Gen Z live in apartments and don’t have room for a dog, especially big ones, the three most common breeds to appear in US mixed breeds ancestry are all big dogs, American Pit-bull Terriers, German Shepherds and Labs, combined with landlord rules against “Dangerous Breeds” and weight limits and it becomes convenient to buy a Yorkie or french bulldog ( or adopt a cat? )

Which brings us to Pit-bull hate, particularly, which seems like it’s on the rise. With pitbull hate becoming a racist dog whistle , and the rise of R/banpitbulls and R/Dogfree. then the UK , which previously banned American Pit-bull Terriers, banned “ XL American bullys” leading to more rounds of debate from people who had basically no experience with them talking about how hyper dangerous and aggressive and lethal and stupid and ugly Pit-bulls were and how only horrible people would ever want one

This Is the part where I point out that in a shelter context “ Pit-bull” is basically any medium or large dog with short fur and a large head, wether it be part Rottweiler, mastiff, boxer, chow chow etc whatever, discussion of actual breed characteristics have little relevance to predicting the behavior of mutts based on looks , and people are really bad at guessing a dogs ancestry

Golden retrievers are cool now I guess, used to be they and Labradors were the ultimate symbols of conformity to the Americana suburban dream with 2.5 kids and a white picket fence, but now every goth black-cat bi girl needs a Golden Retriever( blond? Friendly? White? Loyal? i didn’t understand this trend) Gamer boyfriend. Everyone is mocking the designer poodle mixes now, labradoodles and the like, as the ultimate symbol of the upper middle class suburban family, but this time mocking them as “ overpriced mutts”

Purebred fetishism is big again it seems, Tiktok likes the phrase “ Adopt or Shop Responsibly” , The dog nerds don’t talk about Puppy Mills at all, they only mention “ Backyard breeders” which is a vague term for any small scale breeder they don’t like, but particularly those that produce mixed breeds/designer dogs/dogs that don’t fit AKC standards or aren’t registered/ “ unrecognized” breeds, There are a-bunch of people convinced It is important to support “ Ethical Breeding” , but treat that as a synonym for AKC certified, the Organization that determined a Pekingese should look the way it does

Theres a hint of misogyny to it all also? Aimed at white millennial women for being dog lovers, the mockery of them and pit-bulls and poodle mixes, of cringy doggy moms with fur babies, the bestiality meme with racist undertones, the “ I can excuse racism but draw the line at animal cruelty” snippet from Community , the trend of joking about white women approaching scary dogs and eventually any big dangerous animal that was on TikTok awhile, just this hatred of hippiedom the left has now Ive mentioned before ,

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laoflyer · 1 year ago

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Pit bulls are "natural killers" because they are genetically disposed to aggression. This aggression is unique to pit bull breeds and is apparent even when they are puppies.

Look at normal puppy behavior vs aggressive pit bull puppy behavior.

We know that they were bred to be aggressive and maul other dogs. We have historical records of dog breeders and vintage fighting dog advertisements showing this. They are still bred by dog fighters today!

Yes, you have to train a dog to be good at its job. A trained pointer will be better than an untrained one. I trained fighting dog will fight better than an untrained one. But the instincts to do that job are genetic and you can't train a dog not to have them.

That is why they are "natural killers." A pit bull has instincts to fight and cause harm unlike any other dog breed. The instinct is born into them and it doesn't matter if they are "trained to kill" or not.

Pit bulls are dangerous because their instincts, isntead of causing them to do something harmless like point at a bug on the floor, will cause them to maul an animal or human.

Pit bulls cause the most fatalities of any dog breed. For the U.S. between 2005 and 2017:

So many recent pit bull attacks and fatalities have been caused by family dogs who were never trained to cause harm.

This site archives news reported and verified pitbull deaths. The most recent 2 fatalities were caused by family pit bulls. One of the fatalities was a 4 year old boy.

Why are you denying genetics, statistics, and history?

r/banpitbulls

The anti-pit bull crowd’s favorite argument is “pointers point, retrievers retrieve, pit bulls kill” as proof that pit bulls are genetically designed to be dangerous dogs. What’s the best counterargument for this argument?

have those people ever met a pointer or retriever?? they might be genetically predisposed towards a certain behavior but they still have to be trained into it to be competent.

if you take a random golden retriever into the woods and expect it to fetch a dead duck for you just because of its breed, it's gonna go roll around in the mud instead.

pitbulls aren't natural killers any more than any other dog in their size class is.

plus, all dogs are domesticated predators and can be trained to kill! pitbulls are NOT different or more dangerous because of their breed!!!

#so many people defend these dogs #why?#the dogs dont care that they are dangerous #“what is the best counterargument for this argument”#there isnt one. grow up and accept they are aggressive 😒

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