#piapro super pack

[chanpotei]

Trolled twitter by creating a fake Sukone Tei update screenshot

Bonus:

And here's a transparent version in case anyone wants

[astralfuchs]

I hate the Piapro Super Pack

They all sound like NT. In this video by SukoyaCathedral on Twitter comparing Kaito SP with his V3, you can clearly hear how the voice sounds just as nasally as NT and all the transitions sound muffled and choppy. They all sound like they got a bad cold and are trying to sing anyway.

A Spectral Analysis of the Video above shows that "V3 has diagonal formants, that means real samples. SP just jumps from one vowel to another." - @The_Soda_Wave

Especially Luka and Meiko are just Miku NT 2 and 3. They do not retain their Sound at all, sounding just like Miku most of the time, especially in the highs. This makes both of them nothing more than some sort of "Append" for Miku NT/SP. Here is an example of Luka SP by Axxell from the SynthV Unofficial Discord:

Luka V2 -> Luka V4 Hard -> Luka SP

It makes sense that people very quickly made jokes like these:

Images by The_Soda_Wave on Twitter

The worst thing about this situation for me is that this wasn't a rushed product in any way. They had all the time in the world to make it, they could've postponed it before the announcement and after, but based on them having demos ready and everything, it was clearly planned to be released like this. Crypton doesn't usually just rush things out for the sake of it, seeing as there is still only Miku on NT with no release of the other Piaproloids in sight.

This makes it very clear to me that Crypton is happy with this result. They WANT them all to sound like NT, all muffled and choppy. Luka and Meiko sounding just like Miku with parameters changed is DELIBERATE. Which also leads me to suspect this will be how the voices are going to sound moving forward with every new release as well. What this means for Miku V6? We will have to see, but my hopes have already gone down the drain.

No one actually likes the Sound of NT, the only people who actively listen to it are Project Sekai players, and with the art style of the box art and all of them sounding closer to their NT counterparts, I can only assume this Super Pack is actually a Sekai Pack, marketed to that side of the fan base.

In Conclusion:

The Superpack is a budget alternative to the actual VBs with worse quality in all aspects, no English compatibility and the sound of NT (one of the least liked vocal synth programs) hiding beneath it, which also completely destroys the tone of 2/6 characters. Even SynthV Lite voices sound better and those are free.

The only people that would gain anything from this are fans of Miku, Rin, Len and Kaito or beginners that really want VOCALOID instead of the other cheaper available programs, that don't mind that they sound bad and just want a cheaper way to get them, even if that means they are not as good.

This is the sound that Crypton wants for their Vocal Synths moving forward. They want them to sound sick and like they're eating their own words while singing them.

Crypton really hates Luka and Meiko and just wants them to sound like Miku

[lady-murderess]

THE SUPER PACK DESIGNS ARE SO PRETTY HOLY SHIT 👏😭

I'm assuming the artwork is done by iXima, it doesn't specify but I know they do the official box art.

I think out of all of them, Luka's design has to be my absolute favourite. It's nice that each outfit is a mixture of voicebanks, but Luka's being mainly her V2 outfit has my HEART. I have always loved Vocaloid 2 Luka, she's beautiful in every way. So, this? Oh my god, I have to cosplay it.

[kaito-module-of-the-day]

Today's KAITO module of the day is:

KAITO SP by iXima!

[krash-8]

cant lie the piapro superpack voicebanks sound like if they took their loids leftovers and stuck them in the microwave together (bland, flavors mixed, slightly crunchy)

[amoguseniya]

FUCK, not having a Twitter account is cool and all, but i wanna see the Piapro "Super" Pack hate!! they all got DOWNGRADED. yes, even Rin, Len, and Kaito, who sound decent. people outside of Twitter seem to be way too chill about this objectively lazy cashgrab!

don't fucking let them have your money for this. if you wanna throw money at Crypton, buy Miku merch, buy the older voicebanks, or wait for Miku V6

am i way too angry at this for my own good? yeah, probably, but someone's gotta be a hater. we need more haters to keep these shit companies in check

who listened to the way the Piapros/Cryptonloids sounded in Project Sekai and decided, "oh damn, this sounds great! gotta release this commercially so people can make their own horrible Project Sekai Virtual Singer-core covers that can't be saved even with the best of tuning!"

to think that we thought they'd been using unreleased NT vocals in Project Sekai the whole time... we've been bamboozled. there is no Easter Bunny, there is no (whatever he said next), and there is no NT voicebank other than Miku. noooooo... that would've required EFFORT

what an absolute disgrace... i mean, thanks for the slop, daddy Crypton!

[ampersketch-art]

So because of the Piapro Super Pack, and Luka and Meiko now considered derivatives of Miku?

[zeeph-containment-zone]

Damn sucks about the sp voicebanks but like I like Kaito's. His is very nice from what I can hear. I feel like giving him the growl function also unlocks a lot of potential and I still would like to use him even if the internet is dragging it :')

Edit: considering how I’ve only seen people whining on twitter about this I’m gonna assume this is 100% vocaloid twitter being whiny and the rest of the internet is just like “neat more miku”

[kagaminelensbassclef]

Daily Len day: 4!

Today's Len is: Kagamine Len SP by iXima!

[lilliths-not-just-httyd-blog]

piapro characters super pack be like

[angelofgears]

「愛してるよビビ、明日になれば 今日の僕らが死んでしまうさ」 I made a cover with KAITO SP of Kenshi Yonezu's Vivi

[phobos-anomaly-art]

🌟PIAPRO SUPER PACK🌟

[lady-murderess]

Lemme take a deep breath for a second BC I gotta rant as both a vocaloid fan and user. It's nearly 4am and I just remembered this exists and I'm mad (still)

What in the world has CFM done with Super Pack? I won't lie, I'm late talking about this but it's been on my mind for a while now and makes me so glad I didn't take advantage of the discount I got to buy the damn thing...

Why are all six voice banks so robotic, muffled and choppy? It's honestly like a major downgrade compared to the V4X, V3, and even V2 voice banks. They all sound like they have a cold and I just wanna tell them all to blow their noses so they can BREATHE

(I didn't mention Miku NT because that's not exactly great... we don't talk about her)

What they did to Luka was just absolutely unforgivable. I wasn't happy with the V4X Japanese voice banks (I cried when the first demo for her dropped) because she didn't sound like "Luka", but SP Luka is just Miku but pink. I'm sorry but she really is. Yes, we're all well aware that Luka's Japanese voice banks have lost their huskiness over the years but what in the world is THIS?

Can we honestly just go back to V2 Luka? Her Japanese was absolutely amazing and she performs very well at lower octaves which no other JPN Luka can seem to do. Yes, she has her faults. When she's being used on the actual Vocaloid 2 editor she can be quite choppy, (although that issue is fixed when you move her onto Piapro) but she was an absolute angel. It's kind of like CFM just wanna make her all cutesy and just eugh... she's never really been that way, the personality they gave her back in the day doesn't suit. High pitched Luka doesn't sound great imo

AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON MEIKO — or should I say Miku No.3. Look, I can be mad, I adore Luka and MEIKO, okay.

Honestly Rin, Len, Miku and KAITO were really the only ones who sort of turned out alright, it's just so frustrating that these vbs were "upgraded" versions of their straight voice banks from V3 and V4X. To be honest with you, they should have just tweaked those voice banks a LITTLE and just used them instead of whatever this is.

But at the end of the day if this is the quality that CFM are putting out then I'm scared for when Miku returns to Vocaloid and we get her AI voice bank...

Thank you for listening to my TED Talk :)))))

[evilanda]

Kagamine Rin and Len (Piapro super pack version)

[grizzlyofthesea]

As promised, Miku is next!

Hatsune Miku. First Sound of the Future. Sekai de ichiban ohime-sama. Who knows where Vocaloid--and heck, vocal synths in general--would be without her? With her, Crypton Future Media took a niche professional tool and made it an internet-wide sensation. She stood out from the other Vocaloids of the era. While the others were designed for human-like realism, Miku ran with the inherent artifice of the software as a voice-acted character. Her being fake was obvious from the start, and she was only more charming for it.

That, I think, is the beauty of vocal synths. Miku can be whatever you want her to be--cutesy or mature, powerful or gentle, expressive or monotone--but she'll always have her specific "Miku" qualities, too. I think this is why I also struggle to enjoy SynthV AI stuff. Like, yeah, it's super smooth and pretty...but without actual human tuning input, it's kind of too smooth and same-y, and makes all the voices blend together. Engine noise is derided as such a horrible thing by some people, and it can admittedly be grating when excessive. But it's also what gives certain voices (IA, vflower, Rin, etc.) the qualities that everyone loves so much.

Okay, rant over. Back to the main topic.

Miku V6 was announced alongside the release of the Crypton Super Pack. We don't have official artwork for her yet, but my gut feeling tells me that she'll have long, turquoise twintails.

Miku's appearance has been pretty consistent over time. There are some little differences here and there, though, giving each version its own flavor. With that in mind...

[takoyakidonuts]

Crypton Future Media Announces the Piapro Characters Super Pack and Hatsune Miku V6 AI!

In high anticipation and excitement, Crypton Future Media has revealed their new products for their new releases this year! 3 major products have been made including a major update for Hatsune Miku NT, a Super Pack containing remastered V4 banks for all 6 Piapro Characters, and the biggest the announcement this year, Hatsune Miku’s return to VOCALOID with Hatsune Miku V6 AI. Piapro Characters…