#personally i can't stand lfj

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nine-one-one fandom discourse is so fucking funny to me. like what are you all even arguing for? it's the fucking wee woo show

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How about we just go ahead and exchange some terminology. We put these terms in a box with concepts like BT's 'making up slurs', and BT's doing xyz with zero actual proof; and replace them with some vital information for your everyday lives.

Another thing #they like to do is say that BT's are "textbook whatevers", but you know who actually has a textbook? This bitch.

To understand the hive, one has to understand the mind.

In the behavioral sciences world we study the mind works both in relation to the individual and in relation to society.

Today's lesson is going to be Fallacies in Critical Thinking.

According to Forzano & Gravetter (2016, 2018) "people are not particularly good at logical reasoning".

The key factor in critical thinking is the ability to recognize and avoid fallacies. These concepts are universal when exercising the ability to think critically and rationally regarding any social problem.

Fallacy of Dramatic Instance: This refers to the tendency to overgeneralize by using one or several cases to support an entire argument. Unfortuantely, this one can be difficult to counter due to the fact that the cases are often part of an individual's personal experience and partially based in facts. In order to think critically and avoid this fallacy one must have the ability to recognize that exceptions exist.

Fallacy of Misplaced Concreteness: This refers to the tendency to making something abstract into something concrete. Do I really need to explain this in more detail?

Fallacy of Personal Attack: When a person can't back up their argument by reason, logic, or facts they will tend to attack their opponent personally. This is different than a tit for tat or just being mean. This is when someone says something like "BuckTommy wedding when?" and it being quoted with someone saying that all BT's look like naked mole rats, or other nasty shit.

Fallacy of Appeal to Prejudice: This is the one we see most often, I think. This can happen in addition to a personal attack. Debaters will use this fallacy with popular prejudices or passions to convince others of the correctness of their opinions. Isn't this fandom in a nutshell?

Fallacy of Circular Reasoning: Refers to using conclusions to support the assumption that were necessary to make the conclusions. These conclusions don't even have to be based in fact.

Fallacy of Authority: Refers to an argument by an illegitimate appeal to authority. This fallacy appeals in several ways. *the authority may be ambiguous. *the authority may be irrelevant to the problem/debate. *the authority may be pursuing a bias. *the authority may have a vested interest. (Monetized accounts, anyone? *the authority may simply be wrong. And this one is the one that keeps on being the "gift" that keeps on giving in fandoms. Especially when it comes to BNFs. They said it, so it must be true. I just saw a Twitter thread regarding LFJ being (insert all baseless -isms and -phobics mixed in with assumed political affiliations) and every comment under it being like "oh my god, I hate him even more now, I didn't know this. All just assuming that this was true with absolutely zero evidence to back it up.

Fallacy of Composition: Refers to the assertion that what is true for the part is necessarily true of the whole. (i.e. because Buck is now canonically queer, Eddie must be too.)

Fallacy of Non Sequitor: This correlates with nearly all other fallacies; however, it also stands on it's own. It is an argument that does not follow logically from what as preceded it. It is commonly found when interpreting statistical data, but can be for anything. I see it often in media and media literacy. I.e. the common argument that Tommy was wrong and cruel to end the date with Buck. This bad faith argument includes almost all of the fallacies discussed, but especially this one because the concreteness of this assumption does not follow the absolute shit show of a date that we all suffered through.

This is not to say that it is only one "side" or another. Anyone can have this line of thinking; however, if the shoe fits, it should be worn.

We can ALL benefit from better critical thinking skills.

So next time a Bvddie tells you that BT's are "textbook" anything, just remember that often that reference for them has been manipulated to serve their fallacy of appeal to prejudice.

and for your visual pleasure: two people who canonically like each other, with Hen holding the box we're gonna put all those terms in.

I’ll preface this by saying I’m not really a shipper. I just enjoy canon couples on TV Series/films.

Terms I’d like B*ddies to remove from their vocabulary because they don’t know how to use them correctly:

Media literacy: For a group that uses this term a lot you sure do misinterpret everything in this show.

Queerbaiting: Going to expand on this one. A show that’s already been pre established for having queer characters simply cannot queerbait.

Ship baiting: While sometimes you can argue that they could be doing that, that’s only if you look at the show in a very biased manner. You might think this is the case but the general audience doesn’t think the way you do.

Ship war: This isn’t a one tree hill situation where there was Team Brooke Vs. Team Peyton where the middle guy (Lucas Scott) had canonically been with both women. This is people not understanding fanon vs. canon and not being able to just watch the show. It’s like playing quarterback on Madden and thinking you could be better than Patrick Mahomes.

Plot device: everything’s a plot device. Move tf on.

Predator: You sound like crazy MAGA supporters calling everything regarding the LGBTQIA+ community as predatory. Sit down.

Co-parenting: I know this is a big one and discourse was brought up during the hiatus. Oliver and Ryan have loosely mentioned this years ago but it was never to be taken this seriously. Do y’all even know what co-parenting is or are you that big of a donut? Buck is someone who loves his best friend deeply and by extension, his kid too. Him taking care of him frequently does not make him a co-parent. Maybe he is a parental or uncle figure, but he isn’t a co-parent. Also, I swear y’all need to learn how a will works. He is a GODPARENT, not a GUARDIAN. Stfu.

Hag: This especially applies to women, but to say that someone 25-30+ is a hag for still being in fandoms or enjoying tv shows/films is inherently misogynistic. Men are never held to this much criticism for enjoying fictional media, but women aren’t allowed to?

Queer Coding: people of the same sex “looking at each other”, hugging, or having intimate moments all together doesn’t make them queer coded. It could mean that they just love each other that deeply platonically. While representation is amazing and just because you interpret a character as queer coded (just like my ship baiting comment) doesn’t mean others interpret it that way as well. In addition, network TV has stipulations, and also actors are allowed to decline storylines. Ryan has mentioned his character is heterosexual an abundance of times which means (at least for now) that he isn’t willing to go for this storyline.

Dead naming: Y’all construing the fact that Buck wants people like coworkers and some of his former love interests, to saying Evan is his dead name is inherently transphobic because do you even understand what a dead name is? Evan Buckley is shown as being fine with being called Evan by both Tommy and his sister. I’m pretty sure some of his love interests have called him Evan as well.

Fetishizing: You guys saw two hot guys who “looked at each other” and for 6 seasons have wanted nothing but to see those two make out with each other. Those of us who enjoy Tevan saw Buck giddy at the thought of Tommy and have wanted domestic fluff for them since.

Anything to do with racism, homophobia, and misogyny: I’ve seen the way you guys have conveniently weaponized Henren and by extension Aisha/Tracie when you didn’t get the Ryan/Oliver interview, don’t try to act like you’re morally superior. Not to mention wanting a canonically gay man to die in a show and not even holding those who use your ship name to write CSA fics accountable because you’re petty and want to throw hissy fits. Anyone looking at your comments as an outsider would think you’re homophobes and yes queer people can be homophobic.

I do hope you can expand your vocabulary. 🤍