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fiber observations (knitting edition): peduncle silk
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peduncle silk from type of wild tussah silk worm. what typically think of as tussah silk, is from cocoon. but peduncle silk from stem part. n like stem, peduncle silk processed from it very stiff apparently because “glue” that bind it together.
it so called “rare fiber,” but not sure if it rare because actual few in number, or like. time consuming process for fiber that not very useful beyond niche fiber artist “ooo new thing let’s try.”
anyway. got some peduncle silk yarn some time ago to do exactly that “ooo new thing let’s try” thingie.
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[id: hank of peduncle silk yarn that functionally described below. end id]
in real life it dark yellowish brown color that have these “inclusions” of lighter stuff that almost look like tweed. not sure if it just how yarn processed or how peduncle silk. it DK weight n each hank said have 200 yards. n have 5 hank of it, if careful, can make small adult sweater for me. it not my usual color by any means (pastel & bright rainbow), but again “ooo new thing let’s try,” & rarely wear/make anything other than sweater, so, sweater 👍
people (primarily spinners) online said it feel more like wool than silk, n think that pretty accurate—though me would say feel more like cotton than silk. am big avid cotton not-enjoyer, so don’t knit or spin with it to able compare actual properties, but avid not enjoyer mean can feel yarn n immediately tell it cotton/cotton majority. n. this feel more similar to cotton than wool. but mentally less barrier to it because “ooo new thing let’s try.”
it shipped to me damp n dried since then, but in hank form there still feeling of. like. damp. but it dry. but feel damp.
definitely not something would use regularly (or again after this project) though (tho same seller also had lace version so maybe will make shawl from it just for fart fun of it. don’t think will have very good drape bc stiff but funny rare experiment). harder get + only one color (natural/unbleached) + feel.
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[id: two picture of same knitted rectangle from yarn. there centimeter ruler on it horizontal and vertical. there also US 6 bamboo needle near by. end id]
knit swatch with US 6 bamboo needle. pre wet blocking. cast on 20 st & it about 9.25 cm wide. knit about 19 st / 21 st if count cast on bind off (unconventional number but got lazy), n it about 7 cm long.
way yarn itself made is… think like 10 ply or something. anyway many lace singles loosely together into yarn. not enjoy that as much… come undone on needle.
it not very slippery, opposite of slippery, so may move to metal needles when do real thing n see. as someone who primarily knit wool & never knit cotton, this yarn idea of what “wool-y cotton” think would feel like to me. if make any sense. but not wool.
immediately after wash, still wet:
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[id: first picture hold knitted rectangle in hand against light wood background. next two picture measure rectangle with ruler again. knitted rectangle not look much different. end id]
basically, not much different. with some stretch n shape n put back together, width grew a little to 10 cm, but length not change. not sure why didn’t expect it (prob because last project superwash merino…), but make sense, because stiff.
keep forget this animal/protein fiber not plant fiber.
when wet, have smell. like wet wool have wet sheep smell, this have… wet peduncle silk smell? what associate with damp corners. oh and WET DIRT. really smell like wet dirt.
n. stiffness no joke
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[id: first picture of rectangle scrunched up & remaining it shape. second picture of it be stretched very long length wise n remain shape. end id]
like scrunch it up n put it on table not so carefully n take time for photo, still very remain shape, no sign of move. same for pull stretch really out n still mostly stay there.
second picture visually remind me of superwash merino. except in reality opposite of it—superwash merino feel floppy. uncontrollable growth. once it stretch you need accept fate. (until say fuck you n throwing dryer for few minutes that is). this more… stiff n rigid. you need be one to stretch it. n then put it back in shape n it measurement not change much at all.
anyway. it still wet on table. gonna see if any different when dry, but doubt any. hard imagine what it like to wear it with just swatch (wet swatch at that), but would imagine it not spiky but more heavy. curious about warmth. it look quite thick for dk but measured n indeed dk.
thinking about knit field sweater on ravelry (feel like right vibe for color). scared about it bc people say pattern poorly written/translated. but there lots notes online so hoping go okay.
[op nonverbal autistic with communication impairment disability. do not comment about how talk. still english not need “translate.” do not rephrase into “proper” english without ask.]
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moonymoon90 · 8 months ago
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Yes, Eri silk changes its natural colour because of the different moth feeding, there is also a pale yellow variety that can be found (all along the traditional white one)
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If you want to look up to other naturally coloured silks, you may want to check pale gold tussah silk (the moths feeding is not controlled)
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Or the deep gold muga silk
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And last but not least, the brown peduncle silk
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today, we are Train Spinning, my friends
(still with the eri silk / Turkish spindle. i’ve since discovered this is not actually dyed! this is the natural colour of this silk. how cool!)
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redgriffun · 1 year ago
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It's a hobby :)
Bulgarian spindles loaded with recycled sari silk, Tahkli with peduncle silk, Portuguese spindle with merino, Santa Maria spindle with flax, Turkish spindle with yak/mulberry silk. I need to clear this so I can get started on more ramie
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cozyhearthyarnworks · 3 years ago
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It’s WIP Wednesday! Today I’m working on some personal knitting, done with some of my handspun yarn - 70% Manx Loaghtan wool, 30% peduncle silk, spun woolen and slubby and super bulky 🐑🐛🧶 This should knit up quick at this gauge!
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paladinkit · 3 years ago
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Earlier phases of the copy project - these went well enough that I've kept wanting to try bigger ones! All of these have been done using A5 sheets of cream Tomoe River loose leaf.
First, this unnamed poem Tolkien wrote in 1914 as part of his courtship of Edith (Moonman Wancai filled with Diamine Autumn Oak)
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Next, his poem Mythopoeia, written as part of a disagreement with C.S. Lewis in 1931 (Moonman M2 filled with J. Herbin Poussière de Lune ink, hand-bound with handspun peduncle silk thread)
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The project I started today is copying Leaf by Niggle, on of Tolkien's short stories. For comparison, Mythopoeia clocks in around 1140 words, while Leaf by Niggle is more like 6580. I really wanted to use my Rohrer & Klinger Alt-Goldgrün ink... but since the pen I currently have it in is a broad nib, that wouldn't work at this scale! So I got impulsive and started writing it with my glass dip pen instead. Time will tell if this was a mistake, but it's a good excuse to play with the dip pen & this whole experience is a learning process.
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I also made myself a slightly better writing surface than simply trying to balance the half-sheet over a line guide from my letterpad! I printed out a 1/4-inch graph, marked the page corners, center fold line, and margin guides on the grid in red ink, then carefully made diagonal slits in the corners to slide my pages into. No more needing to hold pages perfectly aligned and cramping my left hand!
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paladinkit · 1 year ago
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I love the weaving technique discussion!!!! I'm going to throw in a little of what I know from the spinning & dyeing side.
First, while it's not matching book canon exactly, I found it fun and helpful to know that the movie costume cloaks were made Stansborough Gotland wool - a natural grey fleece with high luster.
In making the yarn, they blended different tones of light, medium, and dark grey wool - that variation, plus the luster quality of the fiber, plus the natural tints of brown in any fleece, gets you very close to grey-brown-silver, although according to this forum (http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=142752) the green tint was added in post processing.
So! If I were trying to make Lothlorien yarn, which is absolutely something on my bucket list, here's some ideas I would consider:
gotland wool - it's just such a good base for any blend!
possibly some mix-in fibers, such as peduncle silk, which has a similar natural color shift in the right hues, or a bast-process beech fiber, since if I remember correctly that's also mentioned in Lothlorien
extremely low depth of shade glaze overdyeing green into some or all of the yarn. using glaze dye techniques makes the color take only on the surface or halo of the yarn, leaving the base shades visible through it. I do a lot of glaze dyeing, and it's great for blended, mirage-like effects.
obsessed with the description of the fabric of the lothlórien cloaks... how could you try approaching this effect irl? I think shot silk, probably chameleon tafetta but with four instead of three colours somehow? Here's an explanation of chameleon tafetta, a very difficult to produce type of fabric.
light but warm silken stuff that the Galadhrim wove. It was hard to say of what colour they were: grey with the hue of twilight under the trees they seemed to be; and yet if they were moved, or set in another light, they were green as shadowed leaves, or brown as fallow fields by night, dusk-silver as water under the stars."
Only silk probably wouldn't be warm enough, so perhaps lined with something warmer on the inside? Hm. OR somehow chameleon tafetta technique but in wool though given the description of the technique in link I don't know how well that could work? Textile people help...
Either way not quite like the movie cloaks.
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knotheaddesignstudio · 2 years ago
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Multiple Projects in Flight
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I won't have any completed projects to show you this week but that does not mean I haven't been busy - I have multiple projects in flight at the moment. Today I will give you some progress updates. Then in a future blog post we can see how drastically the final products differ from where they started from. Project 1 - Member Showcase Submission This one is due mid November and I am probably the least far on it. Oh well. I will discuss in a separate blog post how I decided on this piece based on the theme for the showcase but for now the focus is on the fact that I am making 3 owls. One of the owls is already complete and was highlighted in a previous blog. The second is started from a slab of elm that had cool lichen on the bark.
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Owl out of Elm I am already on the 3rd version of the neck and head and still don't like it so stay tuned. This one will likely be a great horned owl. The third owl is not started at all yet - other than sweet talking my husband into routing out some of the wood in the middle. I plan to have an owl hiding in the slab. You can even see the outline of an owl in this piece of locust.
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Locust slab
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Example owl Project 2 - Woodland Headboard Commission My second project is a large 7 ft spalted elm slab that will become a headboard. I don't have great pictures of the entire thing but hopefully you can see from this photo how much movement is in this piece of wood.
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Spalted Elm Slab My goal with this piece is to pull the images of animals from Wisconsin that I see hidden in the wood and build up some dimension and artistic license with felt. The first image I found was a moose.
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Moose Nothing is attached yet but the antlers are wired so I will be able to pull them away from the wood for some perspective. The next animal I found is an owl (go figure). You can start to see me laying out some pieces here.
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Moose and start of owl Picture the owl hunting, like in the photo below. I have been working on additional updates since but haven't photographed them on the wood again.
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There are also walleye, snapping turtle, badger and rattlesnake images that I have coaxed out of the wood. I have completed the structure for the rattlesnake but the images are extremely phallic and I don't want to get flagged as a porn site so I will just wait on those until construction is a bit further along. :) This piece needs to be completed by the end of November so I will be probably be posting final pictures while eating some turkey. Project 3 - Weimaraner Commission This final project is a commission to create the bust of a beloved pet Weimaraner. These are beautiful dogs that are grey in color (that can run from silver to more taupe) and have amber colored eyes. The requestor was familiar with my recent work of integrating animals into the wood and gave me permission to do that. I knew I would need the perfect slab so it started consuming my thoughts. In fact, it was 4am and my husband woke up and caught me staring at pictures of wood. My obsession paid off!
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Mock up of Weimaraner piece I found a walnut slab that had movement that looked like the muscled neck of a Weimaraner. I got sign off from the customer and started building the armature for the head. You know, now that I look at that picture again, this one looks really phallic too. Who knew felting would be so erotic? - hee hee The final two pictures show the armature and one of the ears that I wet felted. I was worried about how I was going to achieve both the color and sheen of the weimaraner. Hearthside fibers had peduncle silk top that was perfect. It felted nicely with some merino wool for the ears. I will likely just needle felt the silk fibers onto his head but I like having options. The grey stain of the wood also exactly matches the silk. This will make the integration of the head and neck look beautiful in the end. Can't wait for this one to complete. Technically, it has to be ready before Christmas but I am hoping to find time to complete it sooner.
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jagdishstoreonline · 4 years ago
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ladybugspinnery · 6 years ago
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Spinning some Peduncle silk. This silk comes from the cocoons of wild tropical Tussah Silk worms look different than other types of Tussah. Can I be so bold to say it is a little easier to spin than traditional tussah silk and it is still shiny and wonderful. — view on Instagram http://bit.ly/2Inbqg6
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saydams · 3 months ago
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wow this is really interesting! i have never heard of peduncle silk. i was excited when you said it was like cotton, because when i saw the picture of the hank i thought, "huh, looks like cotton". so i was excited that you said it kind of was. i can't imagine getting usable silk out of the tough stem of the cocoon.
fascinating, thanks for sharing! <3
fiber observations (knitting edition): peduncle silk
[plain text: fiber observations (knitting edition): peduncle silk]
peduncle silk from type of wild tussah silk worm. what typically think of as tussah silk, is from cocoon. but peduncle silk from stem part. n like stem, peduncle silk processed from it very stiff apparently because “glue” that bind it together.
it so called “rare fiber,” but not sure if it rare because actual few in number, or like. time consuming process for fiber that not very useful beyond niche fiber artist “ooo new thing let’s try.”
anyway. got some peduncle silk yarn some time ago to do exactly that “ooo new thing let’s try” thingie.
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[id: hank of peduncle silk yarn that functionally described below. end id]
in real life it dark yellowish brown color that have these “inclusions” of lighter stuff that almost look like tweed. not sure if it just how yarn processed or how peduncle silk. it DK weight n each hank said have 200 yards. n have 5 hank of it, if careful, can make small adult sweater for me. it not my usual color by any means (pastel & bright rainbow), but again “ooo new thing let’s try,” & rarely wear/make anything other than sweater, so, sweater 👍
people (primarily spinners) online said it feel more like wool than silk, n think that pretty accurate—though me would say feel more like cotton than silk. am big avid cotton not-enjoyer, so don’t knit or spin with it to able compare actual properties, but avid not enjoyer mean can feel yarn n immediately tell it cotton/cotton majority. n. this feel more similar to cotton than wool. but mentally less barrier to it because “ooo new thing let’s try.”
it shipped to me damp n dried since then, but in hank form there still feeling of. like. damp. but it dry. but feel damp.
definitely not something would use regularly (or again after this project) though (tho same seller also had lace version so maybe will make shawl from it just for fart fun of it. don’t think will have very good drape bc stiff but funny rare experiment). harder get + only one color (natural/unbleached) + feel.
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[id: two picture of same knitted rectangle from yarn. there centimeter ruler on it horizontal and vertical. there also US 6 bamboo needle near by. end id]
knit swatch with US 6 bamboo needle. pre wet blocking. cast on 20 st & it about 9.25 cm wide. knit about 19 st / 21 st if count cast on bind off (unconventional number but got lazy), n it about 7 cm long.
way yarn itself made is… think like 10 ply or something. anyway many lace singles loosely together into yarn. not enjoy that as much… come undone on needle.
it not very slippery, opposite of slippery, so may move to metal needles when do real thing n see. as someone who primarily knit wool & never knit cotton, this yarn idea of what “wool-y cotton” think would feel like to me. if make any sense. but not wool.
immediately after wash, still wet:
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[id: first picture hold knitted rectangle in hand against light wood background. next two picture measure rectangle with ruler again. knitted rectangle not look much different. end id]
basically, not much different. with some stretch n shape n put back together, width grew a little to 10 cm, but length not change. not sure why didn’t expect it (prob because last project superwash merino…), but make sense, because stiff.
keep forget this animal/protein fiber not plant fiber.
when wet, have smell. like wet wool have wet sheep smell, this have… wet peduncle silk smell? what associate with damp corners. oh and WET DIRT. really smell like wet dirt.
n. stiffness no joke
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[id: first picture of rectangle scrunched up & remaining it shape. second picture of it be stretched very long length wise n remain shape. end id]
like scrunch it up n put it on table not so carefully n take time for photo, still very remain shape, no sign of move. same for pull stretch really out n still mostly stay there.
second picture visually remind me of superwash merino. except in reality opposite of it—superwash merino feel floppy. uncontrollable growth. once it stretch you need accept fate. (until say fuck you n throwing dryer for few minutes that is). this more… stiff n rigid. you need be one to stretch it. n then put it back in shape n it measurement not change much at all.
anyway. it still wet on table. gonna see if any different when dry, but doubt any. hard imagine what it like to wear it with just swatch (wet swatch at that), but would imagine it not spiky but more heavy. curious about warmth. it look quite thick for dk but measured n indeed dk.
thinking about knit field sweater on ravelry (feel like right vibe for color). scared about it bc people say pattern poorly written/translated. but there lots notes online so hoping go okay.
[op nonverbal autistic with communication impairment disability. do not comment about how talk. still english not need “translate.” do not rephrase into “proper” english without ask.]
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