#patton sanders watches

[orbch]

the glasses gays and those obnoxious twins

[sanders-sides-uncorrect-quotes]

It seems like most of the sides except Virgil are opposites of each other (Janus and Patton, Roman and Remus, Logan and Orange)

Imagine if there was a body swap situation where everyone but Virgil switch with their counterpart and he has no idea what's happening but knows something is up because everyone has started acting weird

[we-all-horny-here]

Finally finished the Pony Sides, I've had so much fun tbh, not just designing them but also drawing, since I haven't used the binary pen in so long

I think the hardest part were the cutie marks and names, especially since I've been trying to choose ones that share nicknames with their original names (not the proudest of Logan's especially, might change it in the future)

Also Janus is, of course, a changeling, you can see his changeling form under the cut

Comms Ko-fi

[loganslowdown4]

Virgil: Janus, if you could find it in your heart to take Remus watching duty from me tonight so I can go to the MCR concert, it would make my world a little brighter, and be a step up for our friendship-

Patton: That was really sweet Virgil!

Virgil: Thanks- Wait, where did Janus go?

Patton: Oh, he walked away right after you said ‘tonight’-

Virgil: -Excuse me Patton, COME BACK HERE YOU BITCH YOU OWE ME FOR THE LAST 3 WEEKS OF REMUS DUTY YOU ASS!!

[aherosoup]

speedran a logicality doodle today for the last day of logicality week!!! they're having movie (tv show) night!

[let-roman-bite-someone]

the sides and their favorite horror movies

virgil: final destination. and then he keeps thomas up at night, telling him that any of the horrible deaths in the movie could easily happen to HIM, did he turn the stove off???

patton: hocus pocus. that's the extent of "horror" he's willing to put himself through.

logan: alien. he’s not the biggest horror fanatic either because fantasy doesn’t really scare him, but horror combined with sci-fi? that’s his jam right after crofters, of course.

roman: black swan. the ambition? the theatricality? the desire of wanting to be the best, the most perfect, wanting to be loved and admired by everyone? destroying oneself entirely if it means being recognized and validated for once? come on.

remus: the human centipede. self-explanatory tbh, thomas hates that remus keeps bringing up that movie when he's trying his best to forget it.

janus: ??? someone help me out here, i know that janus would be a fan of the horror genre but idk what movie would be his favorite.

[ts-crit]

All the sanders sides fans who were around at like the HEIGHT of the fandom I’m talking like sweating while waiting for part 2 of Accepting Anxiety to drop I need you help me out

I need every single fandom controversy that you can think of documented here on this post or sent to me in my asks or dms I’m trying to reminisce the old sanders sides drama to my friends 💀

I know for a fact I don’t have all of it but I distinctly remember:

- The unsympathetic!Patton drama

- That one long post with all bunch of the popular fanders about how “if you think we’re a perfect fandom then you are very misguided”

- I feel like there was SOME kinning drama that was swept under the rug

But yeah please add or shoot me an ask or something just like any like wild posts/blogs/whatever you remember

[sometimes-a-night-owl]

I just bought these shoes today and they reminded me sm of Virgil from sander sides I had to buy them they are soo pretty I love them!! And I think Virgil would love them tooo 😭❤️❤️

[halfhissandwich]

GUYS THIS ISN’T JUST MY MOCEIT BRAIN, THAT QUOTE FROM THE 2024 FATHERS DAY PATTON VIDEO WAS SO MOCEIT CODED THAT IT ACTUALLY WILL MAKE ME CRY

just thinking about how paranoid Patton was about Thomas being selfish and how Janus taught him that it was necessary, and now Patton is actively spreading the same message Janus taught him, I’m gonna bawl my eyes out

[justjanusthings]

TSS Bingo cards are here!!

The rules are simple, pick a card, wait for a new episode of Sanders Sides, and play along (just to be clear, all the cards are general, they’re just themed off the characters for fun)

In a reblog, we’ll add blank cards and the list of the answers we used in case you want to make your own

[casart]

Toy Castle au because why not!🧸🏰

[orbch]

rando ass tss doodles

[stimmingandstruggling]

moceit and analogical winning as always. janus knowing how much fun unwrapping everything would be for patton and how much something small and sweet and heartfelt would be. virgil taking the time to put together a whole puzzle chain disguised in a newspaper. i love them and they love each other

[analoceits]

sides fatal flaws

virgil: loyalty. he will always find the line of fire to throw himself in. he will always find who needs to be shielded. he is loyal to a fault, as any guard dog would be. after all, who else will?

logan: pride. he holds his sense of pride and dignity among all else. he can not ask for help, he can not risk damaging that pride. he must be perfect. because there is nothing left in him but perfection

patton: principle. he will follow his principles and morals to death and then some. he has no sense of when they dont apply, when its too far to act in moral. he will die a martyr before live a sinner.

roman: ambition. reaching for the stars is his only path he must be great, he must be amazing. he can be imperfect but he must be memorable. he must do something great with himself. a humble life is one he cant live.

remus: apathy. he can not care. the world doesnt matter to him its not beneath him but he isnt touching it. if the world is water he is oil. he can not care. nothing is ever real to him.

janus: cunning. nothing can be real, nothing can be genuine. everything is a game. everything is a trade. when you are deceit, trust can not exist. loyalty without reason is a fools game. nothing is for its own sake.

[lefaystrent]

One random day, Patton declares he is going on vacation. He will be leaving the mindscape for awhile, and it's up to the rest of the gang to hold down the fort while he's gone.

"You're Thomas's sense of Morality; you can't just go on vacation," Logan points out.

Patton's grin goes a little too wide, his eyes a little too intense. "Watch me."

Remus bobs his head up and down to check him out. "Since when do you do the ominous thing? I thought that was my thing. Are we playing around with each other's thingies?"

"No–thing wrong with switching things up now and then," Patton says cheerfully.

Virgil squints. "Are you Deceit in disguise?"

"I am sitting right next to you, Virgil," Janus points out. "Also, I wouldn't be caught dead in a floral print."

"Are you going to Hawaii? Without me?!" Roman demands, eyeing Patton's– well, Hawaiian shirt he's donned on rather than his usual polo.

"Now, now Roman, this is nothing personal kiddo. I'm just taking some much needed me-time. So I'll need to take this journey alone."

"Oh thank God," Janus mutters while Logan blinks rapidly, flabbergasted. Logan spits out, "We are all personified pieces of one man's personality. By the nature of our existence, you can't be alone."

"That's quitter talk," Remus butts in. He literally turns and shows them his butt for some reason, though thankfully with pants still on. "Want me to yeet you out the door, Daddy-o? See how far you can go? Or maybe load you into a ballista and send you hurtling to a beautiful bludgeoning death?"

"No thanks, bud," Patton says far too good-naturedly. "Our dear lord in Heaven gave me two perfectly good legs to walk with. I think I'll be fine."

"You're serious? Just– what, gonna walk out the door?" Virgil questions sharply. Skeptical he may be, he seems somewhat interested in seeing how far Patton will take this bit.

"Absolutely! There's a whole big wide world out there! So much to do! So much to see!"

"So what's wrong with taking the back steets," both Remus and Roman sing at the same time.

"You guys will be fine for a while without me. But just in case you miss me, I have provided each of you with your very own Patton Pal."

They each look down into their hands where a small, stuffed version of Patton materializes. It has stitched in glasses, a removable Cardigan, and its mouth is in the shape of a heart.

"What," they all respond collectively.

"If you feel lonely or need a hug, you just give your Patton Pal there a good ole squeeze! That should tide you over until I get back. Anyways, I'm gonna skeddadle now. Bye! Love you!"

And Patton walks out the front door.

Dad has left the building.

Roman ponders with pursed lips, "Sooo, did we just get abandoned?"

"Nah, I'm sure he's just gone out to pick up some milk."

"Thank you, Remus."

Virgil rises up from the couch and strides over to the door in a huff. "Alright Pat, you can come out now."

The door swings open. A brick wall is revealed where there once was not one.

"Uhhh, guys?" Virgil asks the group, stepping back. Unconsciously, he grips his Patton Pal a little tighter.

"What in the Chris Angel Mindfreak?" Remus questions and taps at the brick. His nail makes a scraping sound along the mortar. Curious, he examines his finger and licks it.

"Did he trap us in the Mindscape?" Roman asks, squeezing in between his brother to test the solidity of the wall. It is indeed a wall.

"Is this his villain origin story?"

Janus rolls his eyes at the twins. "Patton's just serious for a change, that's all. He doesn't want to be followed, and obviously he must be out hanging with Thomas. Really now, have some sense."

"You do know who you're talking to, right?" Virgil asks him waving at the twins, to which Janus gives a saucy, "Touche."

Logan sighs and begins ascending the stairs.

"What, you're just gonna leave too?" Virgil calls after him.

"I have work to do, as I'm sure the rest of you do. Patton will return once he tires of this stunt."

Logan is gone and now it's just the four of them.

"Someone's salty about being abandoned," Roman comments too loudly.

"FALSEHOOD!"

"Alllll byyyyy myseeeelffff," Remus sings off-key.

Virgil debates whether to follow Logan up or try a window next. He stares down into the beady, button eyes of his Patton Pal doll.

"Need a hug?" Janus asks him teasingly, watching him.

Virgil scoffs and shoves the plush into his hoodie pocket. It's bulky, but it fits.

Will it stay there?

Will Patton ever return?

Will the sides use this time to overcome their differences and bond as a true family?

Find out next time on "Episodes From The Mindscape"!

The screen flicks off.

[emetophobic1]

TODAYS TOPIC : Character Mischaracterisation and poor writing!

While I am no Sanders Sides critique (I am a little bit…) and these topics have been yelled about on the rooftops, I am Autistic and enjoy analysing things and complaining. I ADORE Sanders Sides and my favourite thing to do is make AUs with them so that I can change the story, put them in different scenarios, etc. mostly because there is little to no new material in Sanders Sides, it’s only left my imagination and me freaking out over Incorrect Quote videos.

And a while back I made a “theory” (headcanon) to cope with how bad the characters are getting, to which I shall paste + add extra little things to make it work better for the present!

“SO, as we know. Characters all across media are mischaracterised into something they’re not or something that only makes up 50% of them AS a character. The characters in sanders sides have this too! The Sides in specific because it’s hard to mischaracterise a self-insert.

BUT. Character Thomas (C!Thomas) is what makes the sides… sides. What he views them as is what they’ll present as because they are facets of Thomas and make up Thomas as a whole. So, in a way, C!Thomas controls how the sides present and act around 50%. The sides are still their own and their roles / facets will make them up more than Thomas can control!

So, Logan is a complex character, he’s Logical and he’s seen as cold, occasionally mean, and he’s heavily sought over by the fandom due to “recent” episodes in which we explore him being ignored and things like that, He’s a favoured character. But all people view Logan as is Cold, Deadpan, Monotone, and emotionless. They see him as nothing more than a bookworm who gets angry easily, they dumb him down. He’s a lot more complex but I won’t go into detail with that. — but, I feel like he was specifically written that way (We all know he wasn’t.) so that the fandom would SEE him like that because that’s how C!Thomas views Logan. He sees Logan as this annoying voice in the back of your head that tells you to get to work and to be proper, so that’s how Logan presents

Now, Before I go into the other sides, I just was say that this is purely theory (headcanon) and I know DAMN well Thomas is not a good enough writer to come up with this.

Now, Patton is one of. THE. MOST. Mischaracterised, especially in AU’s where he’s meant to be unsympathetic or in anything Fanon. But that’s not Thomas’ fault, however, in the first few episodes of the series, Patton was seen as nothing but the happy pappy dad character who is a little dumb, But that’s just how C!Thomas viewed Patton at first as well as seen In “Moving On” part 1 and 2! Because in those episodes, Patton talked about how he felt a bit forced to be nothing but the happy dad character who’s dumb but in that episode, everyone realised he is so much more and that he’s fairly smart too! He knows his stuff, he IS morality afterall.

So, after those episodes C!Thomas started to view Patton more and more like a complex person (though the fandom still struggles with Patton as a character, that isn’t Thomas’ fault) In SVS Redux, Patton is seen as one thing again because C!Thomas started to question his own morality which lead to him seeing Patton as a bad guy and Patton had a breakdown because of that, he wondered if HE was a good person or if Thomas was a good person. Thomas’ view on Patton shifted until the end where it calmed, though C!Thomas still sees Patton as mostly one thing, he’s trying so hard to see Patton as just happy again because he doesn’t want to see Patton as sad, unhealthy, or just overall as Morality itself.

And then Roman. Everybody saw him as the selfless dreamer at first until Virgil appeared, then fans started calling Roman mean and selfish because he was rude to Virgil before he became a coreside. Everyone see’s him as this one character who is constantly unable to accept the darksides as sides but in reality, he is the opposite! He’s selfless, he’s a hero, and a prince! His whole goal is to spread confidence towards others and make sure others feel welcome and accepted even if sometimes he has a hard time due to the fact his BROTHER is a darkside. But as episodes went on, Roman changed and changed. How C!Thomas viewed Roman changed! Like I said, at first he was sweet and selfless but he began to present ruder and ruder until Virgil was accepted, Then Roman stayed in a sort of neutral stance between mean and nice because Thomas couldn’t figure out how to view Roman anymore, but at the time he still saw Roman as his hero.

Then SVS Redux came. — those brief moments where Janus had called Roman and Patton out on things is where Thomas’ view shifted further. By the end of it when Roman insulted Janus’ name reveal, Thomas saw Roman as nothing but rude and mean for it and he understood why Janus retaliated the way he did. So as Roman sunk out, he presented less and less confident which showed his insecurity, he presented ruder and a lot more upset, less like a hero and more like a fallen solider who thought he was on the right side of the war. Because C!Thomas’ view about Roman had changed in that moment

And now Virgil! Virgil as a character is a complex guy! He’s a canon in between for Coresides and Darksides, and at first he was viewed as mean and uncaring and as a bother but as of Accepting Anxiety, that all changed because Thomas started to realise and see Virgil as an actual side, so he started to view Virgil as nicer and guess what? After AA (accepting anxiety), Virgil became nicer. Until Embarrassing Phases in which Virgil stood up for these view changes and didn’t want to be just mean or nice. He wanted to be viewed as neutral or as something more complex, Thomas realised this and his view on Virgil changed. For a short moment it was completely neutral where Virgil was just kind of.. there. But, then came Are There Healthy Distractions? In which C!Thomas is in a feud with a friend due to the friends past with being homophobic even if they aren’t now. Virgil was kickin’ up in that and making Thomas overthink. He was being a nuisance and Thomas viewed him in that moment as mean and annoying, so Virgil presented as such and snapped at Patton and the others, being anxious. But even after that, Thomas’ view didn’t change all that much because of how much that affected

Virgil was started to be seen as Mean again, so by the time Virgil revealed he used to be a darkside, All he wanted was to make sure Thomas knew what he was doing, he was trying to make sure Thomas didn’t elicit Janus and Remus to much because he knew it could be bad. But due to Virgil being so unaccepting of the darksides, Thomas’ views grew more and more which lead to Virgil being a lot meaner in episodes after that all and things like that

And then Janus… oh boy Janus. Janus is seen as Manipulative and Uncaring, wanting nothing more than to get at the coresides and take control but that couldn’t be more wrong. Janus is quite literally Self-Preservation which means he just wants to help Thomas care about HIMSELF rather than others, Janus is there as Deceit but Deceit can be good and bad, it depends on the reason for being Deceitful. But due to the fact that at first, Thomas viewed Janus as untrustworthy and manipulative, Janus presented AS such until SVS Redux! (Ik, this episode appears a lot LMAO) In SVS Redux, Janus appears at the end to show Patton that what he’s doing and thinking isn’t right and is only harming Thomas, Janus wants nothing more than for the others to trust him because he is a big part within Thomas. The darksides whole point is to bring out the ugly, Janus brings out physical ugliness and Remus brings out mental ugliness. The others don’t realise that the darksides are much more needed in Thomas as of recent. — so, as Janus reveals his name to gain the others trust, Roman makes fun of it (just like he did with Virgil) because he has a bad idea and history OF the darksides. Janus retaliates with “Oh Roman, thank god you don’t have a moustache! Otherwise, between you and Remus, I wouldn’t know who the evil twin is!” The thing is, We all know DAMN well that Janus doesn’t see Remus nor Roman as evil, but in that slight moment where Roman and Janus swapped places within Thomas’ views, Roman was seen as mean and Janus was seen as “just defending himself”

There was a small moment where those views and ideals swapped in which Thomas viewed Roman as the mean and selfish one and viewed Janus as the selfless understanding one. Then it was left in a neutral stance where Thomas felt confused on who was nice and who was mean but either way, in the end, Janus was accepted and the fandom started to also see Janus as nicer just as C!Thomas’ views changed

Now, I’ve been seeing a lot of discourse on the fact that Remus’ canon self is slowly becoming his Fanon self, and I agree! I agree so much and this ENTIRE rant stemmed from the fact that I couldn’t explain just how complex Remus is as a character. But, Everybody sees Remus as this trash rat goblin who strives for chaos and wants nothing more than to annoy everybody, which is true with about 60% of him. The other 40% is unexplainable as it hasn’t been explored enough to explain. In the episode where Remus was introduced, C!Thomas saw him as this complex monster, disgusting, strange, disturbing, and couldn’t understand how Remus was Roman’s other half, Thomas couldn’t understand how Remus was creativity, so as Logan helped Thomas through it, He began to accept and understand Intrusive Thoughts and agree that they’re normal. HOWEVER, what he failed to see was that Remus was still a side and wasn’t JUST intrusive thoughts. He encompassed more just like any other side would, So, C!Thomas began to see Remus as just this annoyance that wouldn’t go away, similar to how he sees Logan as this annoying voice in the back of his head, he sees Remus as this annoying thought that won’t go away and that he can’t repress so he may as well just let it be annoying. Let it tire itself out

Which lead to Remus presenting more how fans viewed him at the beginning. As nothing more than an annoyance that can’t be suppressed but at the same time, everyone knows that it’s not harmful which is why the fandom likes him so much and which is why C!Thomas is okay with Remus being around (in a way)”

Holy hell past me wrote a buttload, OKAY. — I do have a few notes; I am well aware that the sides lashing out, acting certain ways, and things alike are all in place for a reason as a part of their traits, but I just wanted to find a way to cope with how much the sides are becoming more like their fanon-selves, which isn’t good. The devolution of Janus’ makeup, the babying of Remus, the confusion with Logan, the completely ignoring of Virgils story, and Thomas leaning into ships like Moceit, Roceit, etc. (PLEASE STOP LETTING CREATORS LEAN INTO FANON SHIPS… PLLEEASSSE THEYRE FANON FOR A REASON)

Anywho, my point is; Thomas listens too much to his fandom, to the point he has taken how the fandom treats the characters and written it into the story. Yes, there haven’t been any canon episodes in like 3 fucking years, but even with the shorts, incorrect quotes, and Sanders Asides, these characters have been so clearly watered down even in terms of fucking costume. — I wasn’t even around for the 2018 - 2020 fandom of Sanders Sides, and yet even in the actual damn series I can tell what it was like!?