#paradoxes-and-plotholes

[inthebitterwatchesofthenight]

Five and Lila (nonromantic) subway headcanons

Like everyone I really hated the Five x Lila storyline and the butchered potential of their almost-sibling relationship development.

But one thing that really ticked me, and that I haven't really read about yet, is: that timeskip montage looks like 3 weeks, maybe 2 months at best, not SIX FUCKING YEARS. In six years, people visibly age, especially under duress, if, for example, the only thing they can eat is rats?? (I'm not even talking about how they managed to keep roughly the same clothes and haircuts for six years without any explanation, or how they miraculously cleaned up before going back to Diego and Lila's precisely at the right point in time...) In six years alone with another person, you would probably struggle keeping your sanity, and the end result for each of them would probably look something like early stages of Apocalypse S1 Five. In six years alone with another person, even with prior attraction (which would already be ooc for both of them but whatever let's just grant them that for the sake of the argument), you would end up HATING each other all the way through your codependent relationship. I could see them having sex after six months (still following those creepy-ass ooc assumptions), but I could certainly NOT see them kissing softly and romantically wine-dining after SIX YEARS (the time those goddamn showrunners told us it took for passion to die down in a perfect marriage?? How about helltrap subway then??)

So after that really long preamble, here are my headcanons for what that subway section should really have looked like:

No Five x Lila, obviously

They bicker all the time; this escalates into outright fights. At some point, Lila storms off somewhere and they lose each other for five months.

When they realise they're not going home anytime soon, Five finds a timeline with a Dolores (other than the original one) and steals her away, because he's going to need her to cope through this. (Of course, he needs to apologize to her for being gone this long.)

At first, Lila thinks that Five is nuts for talking to Dolores, but in a matter of days she understands the urge and Dolores becomes her best friend. Five and Lila fight over Dolores's approval all. the. time.

Lila collects little trinkets to bring home to Grace and the twins (like the plushies in New Grumpson). After two years the gift bag has got way too big and Five helps her sort out the ones she really wants to keep; she bawls her eyes out and they arrange the throwaway gifts neatly on a bench, just in case they can come back and get them.

They find some really weird and fun timelines. Don't care what, they just do. Lila almost gets killed trying to bring home a souvenir.

Five and Lila find Max's Delicatessen together. By the way, there's a few Lilas there, ones that also met Fives. Lila can vent about her relationship trouble Diego with another Lila who has also married a Diego. But the other Diego is dead, and Lila realizes just how much she wants to get home before that happens.

This is a bit irrelevant, but that Five deli paradox psychosis plothole is explained by a random artefact created by Commission Five (like in his room in S3 I think?).

Five and Lila wait a short while in the deli to make a plan about the apocalypse. Another Five arrives, finds out about the marigold, and says out loud that the solution would be to erase all Hargreeves siblings from existence. A few seconds of silence, and then all the other Fives slaughter him because what kind of Five would to this to their family???? This is also one of the purposes of the deli, by the way. To make sure no Five comes out of the subway with delirious, dangerous ideas about harming their siblings.

Five and Lila realise that if Viktor can take away the marigold from people like Harlan, then he can take it away from his siblings. And what about Viktor himself? Well, Lila can mimic his powers and they can take away each other's marigold at the same time, and lose their powers just as they're done. Darn, why didn't they think of this sooner?

Lila tries to relook Five. After four or five years, he gives in, sees the end result and immediately finds a timeline with a suit to steal so as to fix this freakish mistake. He wears a hat for a while to try and hide his undercut hair.

Lila sings a lot. Five lets her, and just mumbles about her lousy tastes in music to Dolores.

Lila adopts a monstrous pet (three-headed cat? Giant bee?) for a few stops, and it mysteriously disappears at some point. Major fight ensues. Maybe this is why she leaves for a while.

In another timeline, they briefly meet a version of Diego that's not dead yet. He tries to kill them, Lila tells him that he's a great dad, he's weirded out and runs away.

Five picks up littered newspaper to see if there's anything interesting. He becomes a crossword addict. He moves to a new special interest puzzle game every few months.

After a fight, Five's big making-up strategy is to sit down next to Lila and start talking shit about the Handler. It kinda works.

I'm gonna stop here, this is already way too long. Please share your own headcanons if you have any!

[skywxikers]

here’s a rapid fire list of things i disliked about the season as well as questions i have

- five x lila (made a whole post about this btw)

- why diego said lila hates bracelets when she wore the one he made her in s3

- why luther got his simian physique again.. when that wasn’t his power, just a side effect from the old timeline to make sure he survived

- similarly, why diego didn’t do something with his fighting skills for a job (like the boxing from the previous season) instead of being a mailman. he retained those abilities as they aren’t his powers either

- why five joined the cia when he was so ready to retire in s3

- how jennifer ended up in a giant squid

- literally no mention of what happened to sloane

- no explanation why ray left allison and claire

- klaus’ arc, i loved seeing him more but it didn’t offer anything for the main plot of the cleanse

- allison being forgiven quickly and without explanation, especially when she committed sa last season and bargained with reggie

- the introduction of a plothole, the commission never got created in the future because the cleanse restored one timeline

- on that note, we never learned reason for the tattoo and the fact that old five only had one arm?

- no explanation on how the book got planted in the subway? was probably a different five but still

- also i wish the subway was used more as a potential solution for the cleanse, it’s such a cool idea. the writers just made it into a plot device for five x lila

- this subplot was also a missed opportunity to show five having ptsd and struggling to go through a second apocalypse-like situation

- why none of the diner fives had paradox psychosis

- the way allison heard ben still alive in the cleanse and around that time, lila asked if there was a different way without everyone dying but that route wasn’t explored. even though i don’t mind the idea of the ending (execution wasn’t well done) i still am a sucker for happy endings

- very little character development for diego

- no mr pennycrumb ☹️

to contrast, i will be doing a list of things i liked bc im trying to not be too much of a hater lmaoo

[lookingforhappy]

TUA Inconsistencies, Plotholes and Goofs

before u read, pls know that i adore this show and wouldn't be critiquing it this harshly if i wasn't utterly obsessed with it.

I don't think that all of these need fixes or explanations since they function as fun little plot devices etc but I think it's important to note that they do break the story a little. although there are some that really do need fixes.

this comes from a place of interest, analysis, and frustration but not hate.

(also apologies to all the gifmakers who i have indirectly @'d in this post)

here's a list of all the problems i could remember in tua:

The Commission is too OP

(this one I saw posited by another blog but I can't remember who first brought it up? so credit to whoever said this first i think)

The Commission is shown to be capable of:

time travel

time freezing

body cloning & consciousness transplanting (essentially, their workers can live forever because they can build new bodies and transfer their minds as soon as they start to get old/ill)

paradox-proofing

timeline monitoring/spying (the Infinite Switchboard)

if the Commission has had the ISB all along + infinite time + unaging employees, then they have been able to watch every second of history, and every second of every alternate history ever (Lila watches the timeline Five rewound/erased).

If they can see every second of every possible history, then even if they're the most inefficiant organisation ever, they're able to know everything before it/they even exist.

which makes more or less every plot point impossible:

Five would not have been able to return to 2019 without being spotted and hunted down by people who know exactly what he looks like (13yro not 58 yro), exactly where he is (also making the tracker in his arm, and in the sweet wrapper, redundant), and exactly when he's vulnerable eg. when he sleeps, is injured or drunk.

The Handler would not have been able to hide in 1963 and plot against the Commission without being spotted by the Commission and killed/fired. Same thing goes for stealing and hiding multiple Briefcases.

The 1963 Apocalypse would not have been allowed to happen as the Commsission would have had Viktor killed long before it happened.

The Kugelblitz wouldn't have happened because the Commission would have seen it decades or centuries in advance and prevented it (this should be top priority because this is what kills them!).

Herb and Dot's Goals for the Commission

In s1 the Commission wants a very specific timeline to take place (aka the apocalypse) with no deviations, and are willing to do anything and everything to make it so.

Herb and Dot seem more than happy to go along with this, and even believe that the Commission is correct for doing this.

Dot in particular is the Case Manager for the apocalypse, meaning she is the one who spotted Five when he arrived as a 13yro and left him there to die/live a life of pain and isolation. She also was chiefly responsible for ensuring the deaths of 7 billion people including all the Hargreeves' for "the greater good".

Dot is actually seen snitching on Five to The Handler, was implied to be working with The Handler to prevent Five from stopping the apocalypse, and is the one to alert security/sound the alarm when Five starts fighting The Handler.

So it's pretty weird that in s2 and 3 Herb and Dot are suddenly fine with the apocalypse not happening. It's one thing to change management, and another to completely uproot the entire mission statement/ethos of the Commission. The Commission, from the moment Herb and Dot gain control, has no goal or purpose. because they gave up that purpose when they agreed to let the Hargreeves go to an apocalypse free 2019.

This is also weird as Five is completely fine and trusting of them at the end of s2, when all they've done so far to him is prove that they cannot be trusted and will do anything to cause the apocalypse, as well as having left him to suffer alone in an apocalypse for 45 years as well as force him to join the Commission and become a murderer (or else die alone).

The Two Fives + The Briefcase

old!Five doesn't take his Briefcase to 2019 in the original timeline.

So why don't Five and Luther wait until old!Five has left for 2019 to pick his Briefcase up off the ground, where it's entirely unguarded and completely abandoned, and avoid the Paradox Psychosis altogether.

old!Five wasn't in the timeline or remotely near enough to Five to cause Paradox Psychosis when Five originally came up with this plan.

The Grandfather Paradox + Similar Goofs

TUA Time Travel operates on branching/alternate timelines, like Loki, not on a loop/predestined, like HP, and not on one single malleable timeline, like Back to the Future. ergo The Grandfather Paradox cannot exist within the show.

As soon as Five averts the 2019 apocalypse, his existence would trigger a paradox as without the apocalypse he never got trapped and has no reason/knowledge to return to 2019 to prevent it.

Same thing for S2, the only reason the nukes aren't dropped in S2 is bc Five saw it happen and time travelled back to prevent it, but as soon as that apocalypse is prevented, the nukes are never dropped, and so he never sees the apocalypse happen and therefore cannot know to prevent it.

In fact, the very first episode of S2 as a whole should cause the Grandfather Paradox, by the shows own laws: as by causing a nuclear apocalypse, their mothers were never born/did not survive long enough to birth them -> so they cannot be alive -> they cannot time travel -> cannot cause an apocalypse in 1960s -> the mothers were born -> and around and around and around.

A similar goof happens in S2, as Five helps his older self return to 2019 without de-aging himself. Five is concerned that he will cease to exist if his other self doesn't travel to 2019, but his older self does travel back. But as a 58 year old man. However, Five himself doesn't turn into a 58 year old man as he should have if this was a singular malleable timeline. Hence, he needn't have worried as they created a separate branching timeline rather than edit their own timeline.

so essentially, they're creating entirely new alternate timelines and nothing they do changes their own experiences, lives, memories or bodies.

It doesn't matter that their mothers were killed before they were born in the sparrow timeline, because they're not from this branch and therefore still have mothers in their original timeline. which is proven to not affect their current selves.

Which... breaks the entire plot of S3.

(S3 may have also caused another paradox as the reset causes Five to regain his arm, and lose the tattoo, possibly meaning he doesn't found the Commission, meaning essentially none of the series can even start as Five cannot leave the apocalypse without the Commission).

Polk Salad Annie

Five travels to 1982, Wisconsin, to kill the Commission Board. yet he has no Briefcase, cannot time travel on his own, and is shown to meet The Handler separately rather than be picked up by her for transport.

(If Lila took him, then surely he would have attempted to steal the Briefcase from her rather than go through with the plan.)

furthermore, 1982 should be inaccessable. or at least, it should be a nuclear wasteland.

At this point, the events culminating in the prevention of the apocalypse haven't started: The Handler is not in control of the Commission, so Lila can't kidnap Diego to work for them, so he can't find the ISB and discover Viktor is the cause of the apocalypse, so Klaus doesn't know to take Ben to the FBI building, so the apocalypse can't be prevented. Five's action in 1982 is what sets that in motion (The Handler seizes control of the Commission), but 1982 doesn't exist in this timeline, so how does that work?

Five and the Commission don't seem to know how to Timeline hop, only how to create new timelines, and how to move backwards and forwards on their current timeline.

The only way to make 1982 accessable is to remove Viktor from the timeline or prevent the FBI from capturing him. Which they didn't. So how can Five get there.

The 7 Bells

Reginald's reasoning for adopting the superkids is to send them to Oblivion to use it to reset the Universe. He needs himself and a minimum of 7 superkids to do this, any less and Oblivion won't activate, and without him there to program it, nothing changes.

In the Original Timeline, his plan is foiled in 2002 when he looses Five, and he doesn't try to rectify it. Then again in 2006 when he looses Ben, and yet again doesn't rectify it.

He screws himself over even worse by killing himself in 2019, as now he cannot even go to Oblivion to program it. Klaus could theoretically summon or be possessed by Reginald, but once again, Reginald only has 5 out of 7, and with Klaus indisposed by summoning Reginald, he only has 4 available to power Oblivion.

Even stranger, he could have adopted spares for if situations like Five and Ben happen, in the form of the Sparrows, but he chose not to.

its also a strange choice to build the academy(s) as public superheroes, as he chose to send his only 7 children into life threatening situations repeatedly, which nearly killed Luther, probably nearly killed sparrow Ben, and did kill umbrella Ben.

He also admits that he purposefully stunted the Umbrella's powers, which contradicts his Oblivion plan, where they need to fight 3 near-immortal Guardians. it also contradicts his words to Klaus in s1 - that he's disappointed because Klaus never reached his true potential. Which, if he killed himself with the plan to have Klaus summon him to reprogram Oblivion, he would need Klaus at full power to be able to do that at all.

The Sparrows also don't seem to have this issue, they have great control of their powers, Ben especially. so why bother stunting one lot of kids, but not the other.

Smaller Goofs

-Luther being normal not monkey in 2015 (1x03) when he had his accident in 2012 (1x04) is a big goof up

-klaus not reanimating in the original apocalypse with five remains unexplained

-in s1 the commission is set in 1955 (1x06), in s3 it's set in 1953 (3x07) and this remains unexplained

-klaus was kidnapped in just a towel but Hazel and Cha-Cha have his jacket for some reason

-all of the Founder Five plotline bc there is no given reasoning for why Five would willingly go against all of his morals and create the organisation that caused him pain (both emotional and physical) and got his family killed.

-if Luther was on the moon for a purpose, why not have him running useful tests to make sure Abigail's pod remains functioning? or acting as a sentry to make sure no one sends an exploration mission to the moon/behind the moon? why just have him send samples, that reginald never even opens, every day for 4 years? and how could sparrow reginald know what umbrella reginald planned for Luther? they're different people.

-edit: 12/07/24 the newspaper Five finds in the apocalypse is dated as 1st April, but when he finds the same newspaper at the end of season 1, it's still March 31st and Diego says that newspaper was sold that morning.

[what-even-is-thiss]

It's super fun to nitpick things from time to time but you can't seriously allow yourself to think that a piece of fiction is required to have zero plotholes and inconsistencies.

Those things only really become problems when they ruin the feel or overall effect of the story.

Yes most time travel stories for example won't make perfect sense. But does that matter? When criticizing a story that "makes no sense" pure logic itself isn't the main thing you should be focusing on unless the story itself instructs you to focus on that.

As a writer I take a lot of inspiration from surrealism and write surrealist type fiction from time to time. Surrealist fiction by nature is confusing and illogical and tries to force the reader to challenge their own logical perception of reality, emotion, politics, etc. Even when I am explicitly writing surrealist fiction though I often get feedback like "this story made no logical sense". Yeah. Because it's surrealism. That's kind of the whole point. What do you have to say about it beyond that?

When criticizing something, I think it's important to meet it where it is. One cannot judge a romantic comedy by the exact same metrics that they would judge a cookbook. As a writer and as a reader I am fine with criticism, but what I am not fine with is every piece of media being treated like it's some form of logic puzzle that must make cohesive perfect sense under intense scrutiny.

Yes, a time paradox was created when that character did xyz. And? Does that detract from the storytelling? Did it ruin your enjoyment of it? Why? Does that even matter in a story like this? If so, what does that say to you about the story itself? Where exactly did it fail in its goals? What is it perpetuating that you wish it wouldn't? Why? Is it genuinely a bad storytelling decision or do you just not like this type of story?

Criticism is fine. It keeps the conversation around media fresh and when done correctly it gives creators the ability to reflect and improve and audiences the opportunity to make informed decisions. However if your criticism is only ever about surface level logical inconsistencies and barely noticeable plotholes, that's not really doing anyone any favors.

[the-ellia-west]

Hey real quick I noticed your intro post said you hate the time travel trope and I thought both of us would like you to rant about it

Okay

So for one, it never makes sense and it creates 10000 new plotholes while oatching up one or two

And besides that. It's just a lazy way to solve the plot and it's not cool, just infuriating.

It's full of too many paradoxes that make too much confusion that just takes away from the fun of the plot and entertainment of the story.

My brain shouldn't have to WORK to understand your story, it's entertainment not homework.

[ginhaku125-offical]

Pokemon Byzantine AU: It's kinda sounds weird and nonsense but I would like to see the battle between Past and Future Paradox Pokemon. Also, the Raidons forcing to choose one of them. If you choose Koraidon, then you've Miraidon boss battle but if you choose Miraidon, then it'll be Koraidon.

Oooo!! I'm so glad I got an ask about this!!! Your idea is genuinely really good anon, but I do have my own idea!! Now I have an excuse to infodump about the professors and Raidons lmaooo-

Note that like I mentioned before, this AU is fairly new and I haven't fleshed all of it out yet so there's bound to be plotholes lmao

So in Byzantine, Sada and Turo worked together during the expedition and both worked on the time machine, making it able to get Pokémon from the past and the future (this would mean you can catch both past and future Paradox Pokémon in the game) including the Miraidons and Koraidons.

I assume most of the story goes the same, the professors move to Area Zero and neglect Arven and they develop AIs of themselves ect... except one plot point is sliiiightly changed and I'm so excited to talk about thisss

So as Emerald has Rayquaza and Platinum has Giratina, Byzantine also has a box Legendary!!! As Koraidon is past and Miraidon is future, it would make sense for the third legendary to be 'present' - How I aim to show this I don't know yet. But Cycalizer is the ""present"" Raidon and that's certainly not a legendary!

Hehe

So, you know how gen 5 has Black and White Kyurem and Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon has Dawn Wings and Dusk Mane Necrozma? Take that, but remove the need for a third legendary. BOOM! Box legend.

I don't exactly know how to properly implement this into the story yet, perhaps one of the professors thought of the idea of fusing them and created a device to help with that - perhaps they created a second one for the other professor so they didn't have to use the same one (for convenience's sake) and you find that one in one of the Research Areas?

Either way, I imagine the Professors were killed by this fusion when they fused the aggressive Raidons, either keeping to the original story of the Raidons getting into a fight & the profs getting in the way of this or the Raidon fusion becoming aggressive once fused.

This leads up to the ending where you have a double battle against the AIs with their Paradox mons (because suffer i guess?) and once they lose, the Paradise Protection Protocol(s) fuse the aggro Raidons, which causes yours to do the same

this also technically means yes you can get two miraidons and two koraidons aka four raidons.

I don't have a design for it yet as I'm not really sure what I want it to look like yet, hell I don't even know what type it should be. Might try and do some edits to start off with, but yea!!!

[gallifreyinstituteforlearning]

(a) paradox = temit /tˈɛmɪt/

Object, singular, non-gendered. Plural: temit-ua Masculine: poTemit | Feminine: moTemit

Definition: Timey-wimey thing. Serves as a solution to any plothole.

Example: ↪English: 'I would have done my work, but ... err ... paradox.' ↪Romanised: 'Eira-he'nelsha ei-tedau, tera ... ee ... temit.' ↪Audio:

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[cryptidjeepers]

I do think the breaking of the fairy circle causing weird shit and ruby going through some fairytale horror was 100% a result of whatever is going on with her AND the weird supernatural shit the doctor summoned. Like the last few episodes have been very adamant about imagination, folktales, and superstition being the driving force behind all of the weird stuff happening. I think if anyone else had broken the fairy circle, i doubt anything would have happened. But because it was the doctor that broke it and ruby the one that read the scrolls, it became real. The Doctor broke the circle which probably insta killed him or sent him to a "fairy realm." but ruby read from scrolls, which is the Classic Horror trope that gets people cursed.

I personally dont understand the ending and how she became the old lady and how that makes any sense. considering the old lady obviously has some spooky witchy stuff that makes people scared and why would ruby scare her own mother away?? Because she knew what would happen and that it HAD to happen to get ruby into that position? Except she broke the paradox immediately so how would the old lady know what to do. And what was with the hand movements and static. Were all of these elements meant to be spooky nonsense because the story is playing off of Ruby's rules and understanding of what scary means to her? Is she accidentally controlling her own nightmare? If it was meant to be a time loop of her growing old and becoming the woman, how does that work when she immediately broke the loop?

Im going to give this episode the ol' "its doctor who, ignore the plotholes and enjoy the episode" treatment

It was def a fun episode. I didnt see the ending coming (mostly because it was so predictable that i was hoping for something less....predictable). I feel like it will make more sense when the season is over. there definitely is some context we're missing that fits into the narrative. I cannot wait to watch all the episodes in order once theyre out, i think it will be super interesting

[bbnibini]

Unhinged Obey Me Nightbringer Thought: Solomon's Dream Paradox

I've been having some thoughts about Nightbringer lately, and this in particular won't leave my mind (to call it a theory is a stretch, more of an AU or what if but it's fun!)

(spoilers for S4 onwards in OG Obey me under the cut:)

What if all of the events in Nightbringer were a product of Solomon's dream? What if all this time, we were never spirited away, never disappeared, but had just...never awoken ever again?

Worse of all...what if we don't even exist? What if we actually died in Chapter 16? What if the timelines weren't actually ever merged and there was an actual timeline where we died and our death had left everyone a mess?What if the we the brothers had come to know were someone (who loves us very much)'s very much embellished idea of us?

I've been seeing a lot of speculation in the fandom lately, discussing one of the most noticeable plotholes in the current story:

Where the hell is Solomon (NB timeline)?

Here are some of my speculations(to correlate with the dream theory)

1. NB Solomon isn't around because he is currently in a slumber, much like the Demon King.

In season 4, we come to know that Solomon had willingly placed himself inside a dream world and was not seen for several years. He just...vanished and was never heard from again. Sound familiar?

For some reason, Solomon's reasoning didn't really...sound right to me if that makes sense? While I don't doubt that he is ready and willing to jump into timelines for us...and can be quite shortsighted and one-track minded even (to the point he seemed almost uncaring and flippant in this scene):

There are obvious variables that were overlooked in what he said:

What happened to the Demon Brothers?

Why was he able to use Barbatos' powers WITHOUT Diavolo's permission? (When OG Obm said that Barbatos couldn't use his powers without Diavolo's permission?)

Which brings me to the conclusion that there was possibly something that went wrong when Solomon had jumped into spacetime. And for continuity's sake in this "theory", let's just say, it has cost him your life. And he could never bring himself to accept your death.

Which brings us to:

2. NB Solomon jumped into timelines to try and save you several times but failed.

This is where...things become complicated. Assuming that the second bullet point is true, then this explains Solomon's sense of urgency in his first call with us.

The sense of urgency is because he knows the consequences of his several failures. It had gone to the point where his recklessness becomes more apparent and he had become more upfront in protecting us because:

3. The NB Timeline is all a dream, and it's a dream Solomon is having over and over to quell his regrets.

The more I think about it, the more I feel like NB is too...pandering or maybe too... indulgent and wish-fulfilling if we look at it at Solomon's perspective:

He gets to have you as his apprentice

You live together with him

You have a stronger bond in the NB timeline and you trust each other.

He gets to have pacts with his own demons much earlier than the original timeline.

He has a chance to revisit locations from his past that might have significantly changed in the previous timeline (like the Otherworld and the Realm of Knowledge)

If everything in NB is just Solomon's dream, this would also explain why Barbatos is very upset with him. Because:

Solomon made him use his powers without Diavolo's permission

He had stuck himself inside a dream and refused to wake up and bear the responsibility of your loss

Inevitably, this theory would almost make him the likeliest candidate for Nightbringer because of these scenes:

Notice that he said YOU SEEK TO FORGE PACTS WITH ALL THE BROTHERS and that is precisely what HE WOULD LIKE AS WELL.

Wasn't it Solomon who told us we should forge pacts to "go back to the original timeline"?

Nightbringer's words are very on-brand with Solomon's well-meaning yet out-of-touch way of him of showing affection.

He is immortal, so his way of describing time also checks out. This is the same man who told us that he used to live in a colourless world before we arrived.

And why he always writes himself out of scenarios where everyone seems to bond and get closer because NB is written in his perspective and in his own opinion, he feels like he doesn't deserve to share the happiness with you because he had failed you. So he can only live on in a dream.

There is another angle that I can take from this ridiculous thought and that would be even more ridiculous:

There are two Solomons. NB Solomon in a slumber and the other, our OG Solomon. Barbatos does not like OG Solomon because he assumes he is an impostor.

This is again an unhinged thought that I wouldn't even call it a theory. I doubt this will ever be canon but does it explain so much lmao.

[comfortcomes]

i love the kubrick subreddit so much. has anyone else noticed that the inherent paradox of true communication in human relationships is kind of a plothole

[time-variance-archive]

Thank you @galaxythreads​ for taking the time to explain your points so thoroughly ! If you don’t mind I’m going to answer from my side blog because I haven’t posted anything on it for a while and it’s easier for me if I post all my Loki related meta in one place.

Before I start, I don’t mean to invalidate any headcanon or interpretations of the show, just fill in some details you’ve missed from canon.

Since Sylvie’s nexus event doesn’t have an explicit explaination, I guess we’re all doing speculation. I just think some theories are more likely than others if we take everything in consideration. I tend to follow the rule of Ocham’s razor : the theory that requires the less twists and turns and over-interpretations is more likely to be false. But of course, it’s not always the case ^^.

Also, thankfully I have a copy of the scripts in another tab so I'll be able to copy past instead of looking for the exact lines in the show and transcribe them ^^.

1- Loki stealing the Tesseract HAD to happen otherwise Endgame wouldn't

I need to confess I have only watched Endgame once, so I don’t remember exactly what happens in 1970 ^^. But I don’t think it’s relevant because I agree with the premise. Loki stealing the Tesseract had to happen so Endgame happens the way it does.

And no one ever said otherwise.

Judge Renslayer : “ What they did was supposed to happen. You escaping was not. “

The events of Endgame happened the way they were meant to and nothing has been retconned.

I suppose the reason why this lines confuses you is because you seem to assume the TVA operate under logical and “fair” rules. But it doesn’t. The TVA is a Kafka-esque hell where everything is meant to be as absurd and confusing as possible for the prisoners. Also, the TVA is entirely based on a lie. It lies to it’s agents, even the Judges don’t understand the laws they are applying. If it seems that nothing makes sense, it’s because at this point we know nothing of it’s real purpose and goals.

Also, this line by Renslayer sounds exactly like the paradox of Judas in theology. Jesus HAD to be betrayed to put God’s plan in motion, but Judas is still guilty of his action and deserves punishment. And the making off confirms the TVA is written as a religious cult, with its idols, its corrupted elites and its all powerful leader.

Basically, it’s a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” situation.

Now if you wonder what are the criteria : everything that helps the TVA to reach its mysterious goal is supposed to happen, and everything that hinders them has to be deleted. The Avengers beating Thanos ? Good. A mischievous Loki messing around with the Tesseract ? Less good.

The TVA’s true goal has not been officially revealed yet because it seems season 2 will dive deep into its origins, but Michael Waldron confirmed a few fan theories. The main goal is to prevent the existance of Kang. The only requirement for a timeline to be kept is that it has to be Kang-less. We can assume if Thanos hadn’t been defeated, it would have caused a butterfly effect that would have left to Kang’s great great grandparents meeting, or something silly like that. Meanwhile, Steve Rogers was allowed to stay in the past because it doesn’t cause the birth of a Kang. It seems the Sacred Timeline is relatively permissive for ordinary poeple, as long as they don’t accidentally cause the creation of a Kang.

2- Sylvie and Loki holding hands in episode 4 was in an apocalypse, ergo, no nexus 

Yeah, this one is a plothole. I guess it’s a classic situation of “the magic of love is so powerful it defies logics”. It’s cheesy and a bit dumb, but this is a Disney kids show.

3. Sylvie being a girl doesn't work as a nexus event because loki is genderfluid

Nothing in the show even hints it could be the case. Little Sylvie was about 10 years old when she was pruned, and neither Mobius or Renslayer or our main Loki seem surprised by the existance of a female Loki. The only one surprised is Classic Loki, a character who literally comes from a 60s comic book. It’s like those jokes about the First Doctor being sexist in Doctor Who crossover events.

Even in the comics, female presenting Lokis, AFAB or AMAB, seem pretty rare (I've never heard of a confirmed AFAB Loki in the comics, but I don't see why there wouldn't be any. Maybe Double Trouble Loki ?). I am not the biggest expert in the continuity of the comics though and I don't know how many distinct versions of Loki exist so I'm talking a bit lightly here.

And the Goddess of Mischief line you quoted in your post feels a bit out of context.

Sylvie : “The universe wants to break free, so it manifests chaos. Like me being born the Goddess of Mischief. And as soon as that created a big enough detour from the Sacred Timeline, the TVA showed up, erased my reality, and took me prisoner.“

The topic of this conversation is order and chaos. The key word is “Mischief”, not “Goddess”. What Sylvie seems to explain here is that the existance of Lokis is a proof that the universe needs chaos. And since Lokis get pruned far more often than average, she’s right about it. Also, the phrase “as soon as it created a big enough detour” would not work if it was about gender. Unless she is AMAB and the “detour” was her transitioning (but nothing suggests little Sylvie just started presenting that way). That would be a really cool plot twist, but I’m not sure Disney is ready.

Also, having variants of another gender doesn’t prove an individual is genderfluid. The crew saying that our MCU Loki is genderfluid means little if it doesn’t lead to a confirmation in canon. This is shallow queerbaiting and genderfluid poeple deserve better.

There is one way her gender could play a role in her Nexus event though : she got arrested for playing with a Valkyrie figure. The most popular theory is that she was about to become a Valkyrie herself, something a male Loki would be less likely to do. But since she got arrested at the age of 10, there is at least one other Loki out there with Sylvie’s face who lived her life as needed by the TVA.

4. The TVA forgot about Sylvie's master plan by epi 4

I don’t see how ???

Sylvie’s plan was to cause a distraction so she could access to the Time Keepers chamber, and it worked. Loads of agents were dispatched to prevent the disaster. I’m not really sure how you deactivate a Reset Charge. By pruning it probably. But what happens when a Reset Charge activates in the Void ? Wow, this is the Portals paradox again ^^.

I’m not sure how putting Reset Charges at specific places endangers the timeline though. I would say it erases specific events from time and causes the risk that they happen differently when time heals itself, but this is pure speculation.

Also the TVA is still very actively searching for Sylvie :

ANALYST 1: There’s nothing, sir.

MOBIUS: Even with the magnified nexus threshold? That one should be setting off alarms if somebody steps on the wrong leaf.

The whole agency is working on monitoring every single timeline with accute algorythms to find the two fugitives. That’s how big of a deal Sylvie and Loki are to them.

5. people shouldn't be able to make choices (nexuses) because there is no free will

The answer is very simple though : if there was no free will, there would be no need for a TVA.

There is no way to remove a person’s free will, except by extreme brainwashing or hypnosis, like what happened to Bucky. But it’s not how the TVA operates. Even under the most severe authoritarian regime, poeple keep their free will and capacity to make choices, at least inside their head. And the fact the TVA needs to constantly police the entirety of time proves poeple have a mind of their own.

Also, the use of the word “pruning” says everything. Those darn timelines won’t stay inert for more than a few minutes before a new sprout starts growing somewhere.

6. there has never been ANYONE with mind powers to face Alioth before Sylvie

Ok, this one made me smile because it had never crossed my mind. I think the idea of reading inside the mind of a giant dragon shaped cloud is absurd enough to be a once in a lifetime experience. But It made me think about the whole chain of events that lead to that moment.

First, one would not immediately assume Alioth is sentient enough to have a mind to read. Also, if I was on the run from a giant-ass dragon the side of a small country, I would probably run in the opposite direction. The only reason why the idea crossed Sylvie’s mind is because she accidentally touched one of its tendrils and survived it. Which must be a pretty rare occurence too.

But let’s imagine a mind reader accidentally touched the dragon and had a mental flash of a big castle. What would they do of this information ? If they had been pruned recently, they wouldn’t even know where they are or what this is all about. Sylvie came to the Void with a purpose. She knows where he is (in a dimension at the end of time) and she knows what she is looking for (some sort of king hiding beyond the end of time). So she makes the mental connection that the dragon knows how to access the castle.

And yeah, the number one rule to survive in the Void is to hide and avoid the big dragon at all cost.

Oh, and Kang absolutely wanted to be found. He even admitted he helped Loki and Sylvie (a popular theory is that he’s the one who alerted the TVA for Lamentis). Remember that all of this was part of his plan ! It’s like in The Matrix, Neo and Trinity are not a bug, they’re a feature.

7. loki consistently forgetting he has magic

I agree, the magic system in the MCU makes little sense. I don’t think Loki uses his magic less in the show. I think he uses it far more than he did in movies. We see him shapeshift, dry his clothes, lift a freaking building with his mind (wow, that was really badass !). I don’t know if magic can produce electricity . I suppose it does, Kid Loki has to power his Polybius game arcade with something ^^.

8. The tva has no solar power for anything (like tempads, like Sylvie's)

I don’t think the TVA has a sun to begin with ^^. Have you seen those guys ? They look like they have never touched grass in their lives ! They don’t even have aquariums :,( !

More seriously, we never saw TVA agents on the field for more than a few minutes, and they’re never alone so even if one had a faulty tempad, it would not endanger them.

Also, TVA tech is extremely obsolete. I don’t think solar power fits the whole mid-century cold war era vibe.

And you overestimate Sylvie’s intellect I think ^^. I’m not saying she’s an idiot, but she’s also kinda dumb. More seriously, her plan was completely whack. She ran right into the den of the wolf with almost no preparation. She could have asked C-20 more questions, or enchant more agents. She didn’t even know magic doesn’t work in the TVA. It’s very in line with Sylvie’s character, she’s impulsive and never thinks in the long term. Not charging her tempad is 100% Sylvie behaviour.

9. rather than kill anyone, Kang decided to make a big void they would all go to

“When we prune a branched reality, it’s impossible to destroy all of its matter. So we move it to a place on the timeline where it won’t continue growing.“

I’m not sure how the Grandmaster’ weapon works, or if there is any form of continuity inside the MCU when it comes to the laws of physics. But for the sake of the argument, I’ll assume the Grandmaster’s weapon dissipates your atoms in the air.

Pruning isn’t disintegrating. When a timeline is pruned, a small area is restored to it’s previous state. It’s a bit like turning your game off so you can start from your previous save (unless you’re playing old Animal Crossing and the local time agent mole yells at you for 10 minutes. Yeah, I hate that dude ^^). But it creates some “residual” events that have to be destroyed in some way. Like a bit of tape cut from a movie and replaced by another one.

Once a small section of a timeline has been removed, it has to be destroyed in some way. The Void is the junkyard and Alioth is the big racoon feeding on the junk.

Though, I agree that the TVA could kill poeple first and prune them later. But I think pruning poeple alive says a lot about the cruel and dehumanizing nature of the organization. The upper-crust would rather throw poeple in the trash alive than soil their hands. I don’t think the common agents know what pruning really is, though. They probably think they desintegrate poeple.

10. removing someone from a timeline creates a long-standing butterfly effect

“Reset charges prune the affected radius of a branched timeline, allowing time to heal all its wounds. Which sounds like a nice way of saying disintegrate everything in its vicinity.”

A reset charge prunes everything on a small zone. That’s why agents have to watch out for the red line. Once the Nexus event has spread too much, the timeline cannot be reset anymore.

I’ll try to think of an exemple. When Loki arrived in the desert after stealing the Tesseract, he meets some locals. If the TVA had not intervened, we can assume those poeple would have spread the word and it would have had consequences. The TVA arrived right before it happened and reset this small patch of desert to how it was before Loki arrived, sending the witnesses into the void. We can also assume they reset the Stark Tower lobby, to restore OG Loki and erase all memories from the Avengers’ mind.

I assume they can probably prune a larger zone using several reset charges, or a bigger one. But once the butterfly effect is too important, nothing can be done anymore. Also the TVA’s methods seem to imply they try to cut as little as possible, probably to avoid causing more instability.

Loki : Let me ask you this, why don’t we just travel back to before the attack, when the Variant first arrives?

Mobius : Nexus events destabilize the time flow. This branch is still changing and growing, so you gotta show up in real time.

The TVA doesn’t remove poeple from reality. It only removes one “instance” of a person. When someone is pruned, it’s like they’ve been duplicated and their “original self” is still on the timeline. The little cartoon PSA in episode one illustrates it very well. And this one trippy scene in Quantumania ^^. As our TVA Loki is taken away by the Minute Men, OG Loki is being taken to Asgard.

So no, a Reset Charge cannot remove a whole existing timeline. When Sylvie says her reality has been erased, it doesn’t mean her whole timeline disappeared in the Void. Somewhere, a little princess Loki decided to play with the dragon toy instead of the Valkyrie and fulfilled her approved destiny and caused the Avengers to assemble. But this reality is not Sylvie’s reality anymore. It is a similar looking Asgard where her parents have another little girl who look like her and forgot her mere existance.

In a sense you were right in your question. Changing one little element causes a butterfly effect that prevents future events from happening, therefor destroying a whole potential world. Also, remember the TVA exists out of linear time. Those realities are not just potential, at some point in the TVA's relative past, they were actual timelines full of unique poeple and civilisations. The TVA snuffed them from existance by removing one single event.

And the TVA trials are useful. Everyone at the TVA is a Variant so I assume they have to recruit their agents one way or another ^^. Interestingly, Renslayer condemned Loki to be reset, not pruned. I wonder if the TVA already recruited Lokis. Plot twist, Casey was a Loki all along XD.

I really hoped I answered to some of your questions. I apologize for this wall of text ^^. I really tried to explain everything the best I could, based on interviews, and what I got from canon. Of course I could be wrong ^^. We simply don’t know enough.

But the leaked trailer for season 2 seems to confirm we’ll learn a lot about the TVA. And of course there are the good old insider leaks, to take with a pinch of salt.

Thank you again for your encouragements !

[ninjago-x-lmk]

To save like the Plothole of Lloyd still being a teen in ‘Wrong Place, Wrong Time’ you might wanna do that grandfather theory of time travel.

The Theory goes that if you kill your grandfather while traveling back in time, your grandfather will die, thus you will not be born, which means you can’t travel back in time to kill your grandfather.

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Makes sense?

If the Ninja traveled back in time, shot the mega weapon into space, then they would not have the mega weapon so Garmadon wouldn’t have had to travel back in time, thus the ninja wouldn’t have shot the mega weapon into space…

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Idk Man time travel is confusing so I’m guessing the Ninja made a Grandfather Paradox and overloaded the Space Time Continuum.

[adventure-showdown]

What is your favourite Doctor Who story?

ROUND 2 MASTERPOST

synopses and propaganda under the cut

This Town Will Never Let Us Go

Synopsis

From up here you can see it all, hear it all, taste most of it and feel the rest when the electric lights and the satellite signals prickle against your skin. The town, from midnight to six, marked out in headlights and the flash-fire of a culture in War-time. Séance-messages written in the patterns of the road signs, and ghost-transmissions scrambled into the background noise of the traffic. Animal scent-signals from the fried food stands. All describing something, buried under the tarmac and the street-geometry.

Down there, a girl in a fake-bone mask is working on a ritual to bring it to the surface. A popular performing artiste with a navel stud and serious identity problems is finding herself stalked — literally — by her own image. An ambulance crewman is about to find his own way of getting involved in the War.

And bringing them all together, in one neat little urban mythology, there's Faction Paradox - part cult, part subculture, part pop phenomenon, and part criminal syndicate, either watching-without-being-seen or simply not existing at all (at least until someone invents it). Assuming they're not wholly imaginary, the archons of the Faction seem like the only ones who know what this town really is - what every town really is — and what's bound to happen when it wakes up.

Propaganda no propaganda submitted

Unnatural History

Synopsis

""They called it the Millennium Effect"", said the Doctor. ""But the millennium was only beginning.""

San Francisco has changed since the start of 2000. The laws of physics keep having acid flashbacks. There are sightings of creatures from outside our dimensions, stranded aliens and surrealist street performers. The city has become a mecca for those who revel in impossible creatures — and those who want to see them pinned down and put away.

Sam's past is catching up with her — a past she didn't know she had. The Doctor is in danger of becoming the pièce de résistance in a twisted collection of creatures. And beneath the waters of the Bay, something huge is waiting.

With time running out, the Doctor must choose which to sacrifice — a city of wonders, or the life of an old and dear friend.

Propaganda

You too want to read a full novel explanation of why Dr Who canon is Like That (hint: it's little assholes who opt to look like 10 year olds wearing skull masks). Also unicorns in San Francisco. Unsurprisingly does feature Fitz being astoundingly gay for 8. (@eighthdoctor )

The villain of the week wants the Doctor to have a consistent backstory. This is bad because it’s not Doctor Who without plotholes and inconsistencies. Plus, it was published in 1999 (?) and there’s a line about how Gallifrey is always destroyed and un-destroyed. They didn’t even know… (anonymous)

[hibrydvisions]

Some context (ENG)

Thought I’d be a good idea to give some context about the main character of this blog, so…

¿Who is this?

Sonidy is the most boring, tasteless Oc in the world, a freaking recolored Sonic whom doesn’t even have a cool or pretty name.

Nonetheless, I love her dearly and wouldn’t change her for anything. So let me ramble tell you about the process I’ve been through to create her.

She was meant to be used as an avatar for Youtube (which she actually is). Born from the simple train of thought that “Hey, I like Sonic, but I don’t wanna use the existing characters, maybe I can create one myself?”

So after a very short time searching, I found this game, “Furry dollmaker”, which did exactly what I was looking for. As the character design was obviously the same as Sonic character’s style.

It was from Deviantart, and I think after Flash stopped working on browser it’s not possible use it on the site. But you can try it yourself thanks to the wayback machine if you want.

That’s her first design (I just took myself for reference. Hair and eyes color, and the outfit I wore that day, gloves included). It wasn’t the best, but probably many people would think it’s better than lame-ass edits and art theft, right?

Well as you surely noticed, that didn’t remotely crossed my mind.

As I said, the main goal was to make an avatar that I could use on multiple websites. I did a video using this image, but let’s say it wasn’t good, not at all. Even for the standards back then for the specific community I wanted to get in (and if you’re wondering, that video doesn’t exist anymore ‘cause I never uploaded it. I didn’t even render it because I didn’t like how it came out. I still remember how it was, and trust me, it was boring). And the most important fact that made me change my mind about using it was that it seemed so rigid and inexpressive to me. To this day I cannot remember why I cared about that, but yeah that was what it bothered me the most.

So, thinking on a solution, I remembered something.

You see, inside the community I wanted to be part of, there was an even more niche group of creators whom all used Sonic avatars, with different colors and styles.

I should mention that all of this happened when I was like 12-13 years old, so I didn’t knew a lot on how edition tools worked. And after investigating for a bit, I found myself following a tutorial from a user called “Fedesonic” (the user doesn’t exist anymore) that showed how to make you own Sonic character. (Actually, if you know that Sonic paradox’s short, basically that’s what happened), and I learned how to paint over Sonic X’s images.

This was the first recolor I did; I had to simplify the design though. ‘Cause if you haven’t noticed by now, I hadn’t the slightest notion on how to draw. So I wasn’t capable on putting on that many details (plus I would have to do it all with a mouse and I barely understood how to use the program, so at that moment it seemed an impossible task).

With that, I was able to create some silly videos for a while (I think it was like 2 or 3 years) I kept recoloring frames from Sonic X’s show as I mentioned as they provided a variety of poses and expressions. But I have to admit that I sometimes used fanart too, mainly because I was unaware it was a bad thing (I never proclaimed that it was my own art though, I hope that helps a bit).

And so, I spent a couple of years unable to do anything besides daydream about what I wanted. Thinking about it now, maybe it was a good thing. Because without having to rush I could mediate about the story I wanted, to repeat it over and over in my head, fixing plotholes and replacing scenes for others more imaginative and interesting.

Time went on, I planned to make a series (like a story mode) with the characters to try and make them more interesting, I started it and divided it in two parts, and then my pc exploded because I’m life’s favorite joke.

So even if I managed to rescue my archives, I had not a place to work with them and advance my project.

All of it was getting more complex and, do I really need to depend on whatever pose or expression made by someone else miraculously fits on with the scenes? Maybe I will need to heavily edit the image, and what if no one has done something that’s exactly what I have in mind? What the hell I’m supposed to do then?

To my dismay, the answer was obvious. If I wanted my vision to come out exactly as I imagined: I had to learn how to draw.

Now, probably whoever is reading this is thinking “Duh” but it was a crushing revelation for me back then, mind you >:[ I had never been good at drawing nor I had any interest in doing so. Realizing I had to start from the beginning at something I had zero skill for, when many kids that age are already talented or with tons of practice made me feel insecure and jealous to be honest.

But, I knew I was on my own and didn’t really had an option. If I wanted my stupid daydreams come true I would need to do it myself. So I basically forced myself into it.

I couldn’t find the notebook where I had my first attempts to draw, but they were terrible (as one would expect). I remember thinking “Oh it cannot be that different from just drawing Sonic, adding a few extra details and change the color” WRONG, it was torture, and I had to learn much more than that. (Anyway I have an old deviantart account where there’s pretty old drawings if you wanna see).

Long story short, I spent some years learning on paper, I improved the story, got a new pc, and by that moment I already got a liking for drawing so I got the stupid idea to get into animation too, along with more complex designs for the character because “well, I guess I’m allowed to do that now”.

However, Sonidy never changed too much. I tried to give her a new image, I really did, but no matter how many accessories added, how different made the shape, I never liked the results.

So I just let her be, with very subtle modifications. After all, who cares, it’s not a recolor if I drew it all myself, right? >:]

And that’s the dumb origin story, don’t cheer at the same time everyone thank you. This text wall is just to clarify why I have a soft spot for this bunch of ugly pixels.

BUT, even if she was meant to be used as an avatar, eventually got separated from me, developing her own personality and traits, and though she still has similarity with me as a person, she’s her own thing now.

So, I’ll tell you some things about her.

Sonidy

A wolf/hedgehog hybrid (how original) with brown fur and green eyes. Naive, usually joyful (make her angry is very easy though) and a very emotional person in general.

She likes to discover/learn new things, spent time with her friends, going on adventures, and though she’s not exactly evil, she’s a bit mischievous and likes to cause trouble. She doesn’t like the part where she has to take responsibility for it.

In-Lore she actually has a reason to look like Sonic and have a similar name. As she’s one of many fangirls of the blue hedgehog (he’s basically some sort of celebrity, like in the original Sonic universe). She has him as a source of inspiration so she mimics his style.

She is between 12-26 years old. It’s a big gap but it’s not because of indecision or something. More like her story begins when she’s 12 years old and at the most recent point I have planned she’s 26. And as a side note: Her appearance and personality changes depending on which point of the plot she is, but let’s take all of the above as a general description.

In the meantime, she lives in an island along with her cousins. Where all kind of things happen.

And as a last useless fact: Sonidy has two stories/timelines. The canon one (the one I’ve worked the most with original characters and stuff). And the alternative (which actually was the initial concept I had planned for her. Where I rather inserted the characters on Sonic’s world. Basically your typical fanfic). I bring this up because after thinking about it for a while, I decided to try and rescue those concepts of the alternative timeline. And this blog is the only place I feel safer to post it.

And that’s all, thank you if you got to the end of this ramble. Hopefully I post something more interesting later.

[number-1-kuaidul-fanboy]

I'm just gonna say it. I've given it some thought and personally, I HATE the timeline twist in Go Rush.

Spoilers for the first season, I haven't started season 2 yet but I think I can talk about just season 1 for a bit.

Go Rush seemingly only takes place "before" Sevens timeline-wise for two reasons:

1) So they can have rush duels.

2) So they can have young Yuga. (Even though they never refer to him by name or even properly show his face.)

Now, I'm sure Bridge is either just more comfortable writing rush duels or it's what Konami wants them to do to really sell specifically just Japan on this new format. Whatever the reason though, it doesn't work for Go Rush. Rush duels were intrinsically connected to the story of Sevens. It was all about the creation of rush duels and how society reacted to them. The meta-commentary of master duels becoming too complicated for the original target demographic to understand/enjoy was an essential part of the plot, particularly in season 1. You cannot have a Sevens without rush duels. Go Rush though? Its story is just "aliens discover card games and want to use them as weapons for war." Both Zexal and Arc V did stories like this through master duelling. Rush duels don't add anything to Go Rush and the only new thing Go Rush has added to rush duelling so far are equip spells, which we've had in master duels for ages, and just aren't that exciting to me despite the show's best efforts. It's not even remotely comparable to Sevens' rush duelling, which gave us maximum summon and a new version of fusion summon, the latter of which carried over into Go Rush but doesn't fit into the plot as naturally. If anything, it causes plotholes.

Everything about rush duelling existing before Yuga's time, even if he was the one who brought it here via time travel, causes plotholes and paradoxes. Because Yuga didn't just introduce rush duelling to aliens, he introduced it to Goha Corporation, who would later try everything to eradicate it. Fusion was invented by a Goha before it was supposed to be invented. So did the Goha siblings know about this back in Sevens and it was passed down or some shit? That's a closed time loop, and takes away from Sevens a bit. Rush duels are part of an alien prophecy in an era long before they shouldn't have existed yet? Even if this is all explained away eventually, it's still really grossly confusing and stupid. And believe me, I'm quite tolerant of Yugioh's stupidity. This doesn't even ruin Go Rush for me, it's still pretty entertaining and I'm excited to watch more but this nonsensical plot development and just how derivative it is of the past Yugioh series (Sevens and Arc V especially) really detracts from it for me.

[thatonegaybastard]

wait uh fuck no itd create a time paradox. actually. if he did that nevermimd plothole filled