#papa v speculation

[ficandkaboodle]

…And did they really just reveal this bitch’s name

On the fucking FIFTH?

[ficandkaboodle]

Nicely put and also hitting all the points I’m feeling.

Mixing them all together, I also have an issue with what’s being suggested by the name: “Papa Perpetua” or “Eternal Papa” basically. It’s saying “This is Papa from now on.” And if this is the final era, and there is no more Ghost after, it’s basically shutting the door; THIS is your Papa from now on and you have to accept it. Never mind that Tobias IS Papa. He’s every Papa’s idiosyncrasies, he’s the lore however shaky. If V is not Tobias, then they’re not Papa to me. It’ll just feel like a cover band they inherited. If Tobias isn’t the Eternal Papa, it feels almost like being abandoned (there’s probably a less dramatic word but I’m very sleep-deprived and emotional atm so this is what I’m going with).

I don't want a female singer. If it's not tf I'm not going to be able to stay a fan. Maybe that sounds awful but...

Not sure I can go so far as to revoke my fanhood, but my gut reaction was strong this morning.

1) the only constant with Ghost has been Tobias Forge. He is the frontman, the “person responsible for,” the creator and soul of Ghost. He is, as I’ve recently asserted, kind of the point.

2) With that statement in place, and IF the new Papa is a new person who is female, I personally find it a bit dishonest to sell tickets to people who expect to see Tobias onstage front and center, in whatever new persona it is.

3) If this is indeed the case, and the new frontperson is a whole new person, it sounds from the nature of the character name that they are in for the long haul. Does that mean that Tobias is retiring from performing in Ghost? I think it’s a valid question.

I honestly hope I’m wrong. I won’t do well with this scenario.

[inkstainedrat]

Papa V so help me

I have so much energy right now I need to be taken out with a tranquilizer gun

It’s the tiniest, briefest little glimpse of what the future holds

But my god I love this band and am so excited for whatever is in store

[copiousloverofcopia]

Hmmm I wonder....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetua_and_Felicity

[cowbell-ghuleh]

Just some Papa V speculation

because I needed to draw something as couldn't get into the larger pictures I have in the works right now.

I used the Cardinal as a basis for his face shape as they're probably twins, and the skull paint was partly inspired by the very early concept art of Papa IV.

Sketch , traditional art. Don't know if I'll ever colour this.

[ficandkaboodle]

Plenty people noticed and the common response was that Terzo wore clawed gloves. Which is what I’m clinging to because A) I fucking loved those cunty bitch gloves and B) I don’t much like the idea of Tobias leaving but the band going on if I’m being brutally honest. Not yet at least.

I can’t be the only one that noticed that the hand tapping on the door in ch 18 had long, manicured nails

it’s 2025 obvs nails does not equal woman but i remember my kneejerk reaction being “damn that’s a feminine looking hand they couldn’t get Tobias to do that?”

[alien-the-ghost]

I don't think there's enough reason to speculate this personally, but whether Papa V is a man or a woman my bisexual ass will be fawning either way

[times-new-scrotum]

I've only seen a couple people talk about this, since in The Future is A Foreign Land MV the flags and armbands have a V-shape(? I think it looks like a V but some people might disagree lol) made up of two lightning bolts, I reckon Papa V is going to establish some kind of theocratic authoritarian regime. I think would tie in really nicely with a lot of the themes of Impera! This is just speculation though.

I'm really interested in the level of power that The Clergy have had over the years during the album cycles. Like even if this doesn't happen, I'd really like to know more about how much reach and influence they have in that universe. Like are they as powerful as other major religious leaders?

[copias-juicebox]

wdym possible papa v reveal ?

im still in denial about copia not being papa anymore

(that's 85% of this fandom)

Lmao i honestly am not a fan of speculating too much. I prefer to go into things spontaneously and see what happens. Whatever it may be i am grateful and happy to get some more food! 🥰🥹

[karmicbias]

I might be late to the party as I know this isn't a recent photo (2019)... but have we talked about the fact that the legs on the spider are Roman numerals I-IV - and that there's a V on the spider itself?!

Tobias are you fucking with us? (I mean I kind of assume yes, always, but what the fuck is this?!)

[ficandkaboodle]

The revelation of V’s name is almost like how they select a new pope, only we aren’t yet getting a plume of white smoke coming out a chimney. It’s more like a purple toot squeaking out of a furnace and we’re all kinda like. Not sure what to do about it or what it means. But w ehave a NAME!!!!!

[foxybouquet]

I stg if this is the answer…if he’s been under our nose (lol) the entire time

[karmicbias]

I'm tired and a quick Google didn't give me anything conclusive, but is that first one an official design??

Because in the light of RHRN and some of those split second frames we got (the twins yes but also Secondo's ghouls)... Huh. Time will tell I suppose!

(Since I’m still salty at dominik mysterio in wwe) Here’s some pics of Ghost I found that are for wallpapers 😻💜

I personally love the first two SO MUCH

[iamthecomet]

I have a theory and it might be WAY OFF but it makes sense to me and I need to share it with someone.

Okay so the only song that got brought back is Spawn of Pure Malevolence which is awesome I've listened to it SO MUCH since it was brought back and I'm so happy.

BUT I was listening to it just now and the opening line...

"If I had to guess they just resurrected him."

And who's been gone and they just brought a song back?

MARY GOORE

So what if Tobias' plan is to 'resurrect' Mary as Papa V

Again I could be way off and it could be me just hoping to get to see Mary one day but it makes sense to me.

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At this point, I wouldn't put anything past TF. At this point I feel like almost all of our theories are equally valid and possible. Is Copia the anti-christ? Maybe. Is Mary Goore going to be Papa V? Maybe? Is Terzo getting resurrected? Maybe. I'm both desperate for a new chapter (or just signs of life from Ghost at all). But also I love the anticipation and the wondering and all of the speculation. It's so fun to not have any idea what is going to happen next.

[sunnytheshade]

Can't believe there's no Papa V (speculative) NSFW content yet, like c'mon! There's a bunch of non-canon shit out there, I want THEORIES for his personality. And smut.

[fanfic-inator795]

Awwwww... I'm watching 2003 TMNT - specifically the Battle Nexus ep, cause I wanted to see how the Leo and Usagi of this incarnation interact so I could speculate on how Rise!Leo and Usagi could act around each other - but I wasn't expecting 2003!Splinter to be so wholesome and such a good and supportive papa ^v^