#pantherlord4

[monstersdownthepath]

Would Discord from MLP be considered a protean lord?

He's definitely the chaotic type.

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Yes. He's even got the serpentine shape going on, AND the ambiguous morality that changes more or less at a whim.

[monstersdownthepath]

What's your thoughts on Nalmungder, that daemon harbinger that feels more like a Sahkil than.

Like closets, basements and delusions of safety? That sounds far more like a boogyman figure than a soul eater.

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A LOT of the Harbingers do feel like they embody taboos and fears more than unfair deaths, and you happened to have locked onto one of my favorites! I actually have an Ecclesitheurge who worships Nalmungder and began at a troublingly young age after he started feeding his bullies (then neighbors, then...) to the monster in his closet.

I'd agree he feels much more like a Tormentor than a Harbinger, especially since he's described as a blob of darkness covered in eyes and mouths, and most Harbingers have a humanoid appearance. Part of me wonders if he actually started as one but became the other... not IN universe, but OUT of universe.

[monstersdownthepath]

If Velstrac demagogues are cold and clinical

What would they think of a demagogue couple?

Perfection in the arms of another. Perfection through love.

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MOST of them are quite cold! Certainly the likes of Raetorgash, Barravoclair, Vevelor, and especially Inkariax seem to be the silently sadistic type, but I have a hard time imagining Kaikyton as anything but an energetic showman, and Morrobhan seems to be the most energetic and active of them all in the hopes of piecing together its perfect form.

A couple, however, sounds fascinating. I can't help but imagine two entities either literally fused together or with portions of one another cut away so their partner's limbs fit perfectly against them when they're embracing.

[monstersdownthepath]

So I have an infernal Duke I wanna try and make a bit more focused because a lot of his stuff a bit all over the place.

In life he was the court wizard of a queen and also a master poison maker. An expert in poisoning food and drink getting away with it. As a Duke I was thinking some of his abilities allow him to conjure poisoned food, with a special toxin that begins to make people more receptive to him and his abilities. Like imposing a cumulative -1 penalty to Will saves.

He's also a ratfolk,a fancy looking one too. Making him look harmless and easy to trust. Give off a noble fancy rat vibe.

Is this all too weird?

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Nope! Poisoned food works well as a power set--one I've also been thinking about, too! An Infernal Duke would make for a good poisoner, but you may also want to consider a Malebranche, the demigods of Hell in charge of conquering whole worlds, as such a power set is suitable for slowly overtaking a planet's leadership. But if you're going to leave him as a Duke, you'll also have to give him the ability to pierce poison immunity, as other devils are immune to poison! AND the power to either hypnotize or trick people into eating it, since such a powerset really only ever works against someone once.

[monstersdownthepath]

Odd idea I'd like feedback on

Would a daemon harbinger with a penchant for explosives work? More focused on destroying buildings, especially important ones and even more so when important people are inside. A mad bomber who wants to eventually find a way to blow up a planet. Too chaotic or no?

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It would work well, and Paizo agrees with you in this regard, because Hastrikhal already exists, and her Divine Obedience requires you to set an occupied building on fire. She's one of the more infamous Harbingers because of this!

[monstersdownthepath]

How would you make a Daemon harbinger that wants ol Trail Mix's status as Horseman of Famine? I know Creaturecodex has caracalla who's about inflation and price gouging. One I have is about winter and darkness; famine caused by endless snowfall,cold and denial of sunlight. Destroying ecosystems through winters most brutal aspects.

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ironically, the same. I in fact have an Outer God with the same portfolio, a thus-far nameless entity I'm reworking, as its old incarnation drew too much influence from the W---igo. You can see its pictures and its old name here, though its title is the God of Extinction.

A deaemon that wants to supplant Famine outright is something I have not quite touched on, my closest is Molvulia, the Curdled Princess, who embodies death by food poisoning and sabotaged food, and is stated to covet the throne of Famine. The intentional destruction and infestation of edibles is her modus operandi, though a full replacement for the Horseman of Famine in my mind would likely be something similar to Caracalla, a being representing food hoarding and food destruction, forcing others to slave for just enough to survive, if that. The least subtle allegory for capitalism possible. I have a prototype for a capitalism daemon harbinger in my drafts, but it likely won't see the light of day for a while still.

[monstersdownthepath]

Weird question

Would Velstrac s be interested in music?

Obviously using tortured people as instruments or making instructions out of peoples flesh but it's an interesting angle

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Yes! The Precentor Velstrac are noted to be historians and storytellers by trade, fulfilling the role of Bard, and their abilities and presentation paint a picture of musicians who force others to perform in their songs and sing for the demagogues, one way or another.