#panslavism

[ohsalome]

I'm sure that when Karel Havlíček Borovský said "russians call everything russian slavic to call everything slavic russian", he wasn't talking about videogames; but the shoe fits

[russia-libertaire]

Pan-Slavism

'Continued tension between regime and educated society stimulated the appearance of the first independent public movement with an agenda which concerned both foreign policy and, even more deeply, the nature of Russia as a state and a community. Especially strong among the wealthy and educated member of Moscow society, the Pan-Slavs were inspired by the example of Germany to hope that Russia could both renew its national identity and strengthen its standing in Europe by sponsoring nation-building among the Slav and Orthodox peoples of central and southeastern Europe.'

Russia and the Russians, by Geoffrey Hosking

[wilcze-kudly]

One thing I've been thinking a lot about is how the Earth Kingdom apparently functions more as a gathing of kingdoms under the loose control of the Earth King. Like from what we see, it's the largest and most diverse nation out there, with a lot of various cultures and 'mini countries', like Omashu. So I wouldn't be surprised if the ties between citizens of different areas were loose at best, some of them wven having their own ethnic identities etc. I think this is something I keep forgetting when I analyse the earth kingdom and the plotlines that occur in it. Also really convenient for writing and worldbuilding.

[koschei-the-ginger]

You always want to hope american media will be normal about eastern europeans and then they create a "Russian" gang with members called Janke Dacyshyn, Franz Tomczeszyn and a woman saying "To přeci nemůžeme" 🤨

[tooboredtothinkofaname]

O, Dukhove Przodkovie, tvoja prisutnosť jest tu silna, V den', gdie wspominajem wasze zycie i mudrost'. Chwalim waszej pamęć i dziedzictvo, Nech wasze dukhi znajdą pokój i světlo.

Velesie, nech Tvoja opieka objima ich dukhi, Tvoja sila podpěruje našu refleksiju i zamysli. Prosime tebje o pokój dla ich dush, O harmonija i podpora dla naših molitv.

O, Strajnicy Navii, przyjmite naše hłody, Tvoja prisutnosť nech objima našu pamęć. Dziękujeme za waszej mudrost' i opieku, Nech waszej pamęć zostanije w naših sercah

[ratuszarsenal]

oh karel havliček borovský we're really in it now

[pandlapary]

ff

[mist-the-wannabe-linguist]

your options for trying to read anything about prechristian (western) slavic culture really are like

wikipedia (only vaguely sourced)

a website that's antivax modern "witches" at best, fascist conspiracy theorists at worst

texts from the 1800s/1900s heavily influenced by panslavism and conflating russian culture with all other slavs

source: trust me bro (ranging anywhere from baby name websites, lifestyle blogs, or chronicles by medieval monks who filled in the blanks in sources by simply making shit up)

[snovyda]

The more I think about the Czech Eurovision entry and the more interviews and statements from them I see, the more disgusting it gets.

“Slavic sisterhood”? “We (all) don’t want our boys to die”??? That’s literally straight up russian propaganda with its panslavism that is used as a pretext of the LITERAL ONGOING GENOCIDE. Appropriating our language is also one of the things russians do, calling it a “trophy”. Yes, we don’t want our boys (and girls, and literally anyone else) to die, so maybe address it to those who have come to kill us instead of preaching this mythical rotten sisterhood/brotherhood?

And, like... if they meant well somehow, they would have listened to the reactions from Ukrainians, because there have been a lot of such reactions since winter. But they don’t care. They just want to exploit us to create this holier-than-thou image for everybody who doesn’t know any better.

Incredible.

[lietpolski]

The tags u left on that serbrus drawing are fascinating... Can you tell me more i want to study this dynamic on a petri dish

YEAH ofc !! i'm not the expert on those 2 but i do find the idea of them VERY entertaining <3 this will get long bc i'm insane

i think vuk's crush on ivan would've been a thing since the 1800s! and it was SO onesided even back then :,) so russia supported the serbs in their struggle for independence from the ottomans, right? this was nothing special for russia (they'd helped out other balkan states too), and they just did it because they wanted to weaken and defeat the ottomans. for serbia though this was huge! russian support played a central role in winning their independence, and i think vuk's the kind of person that doesn't forget it when someone does something nice for him

the next decades brought constant fighting with austria, during which vuk was 24/7 daydreaming about his only powerful ally, big hunk muscle daddy ivan <3 panslavism was ALL the rage (ivan wasn't nearly as into it as vuk was until ww1, i think that's part of where the idea of starstruck vuk who wants to be buddy buddy kissy kissy with russia and ivan being like uhhhh... comes from)

but when ww1 did happen, ivica came to the rescue daww. (overdramatic jokes aside, ivan DID like him, as a loyal ally & fellow orthodox slav, but more on that later.) so at the time vuk was all like <3 <3 <3 omggg my hero

relations soured when russia went on their big baddie commie era because yugoslavia thought they were cringe, but this changed during the 90's. russia was the only one to show support for serbia at the time (when no one else did including old allies) and so vuk was like 'ohhhh fineeee i can forgive him for his stalinist phase <3 i miss his dick anyway <3' and has been obsessed ever since

tldr a lot of this comes from vuk's main character syndrome where he thinks that the world revolves around him and everything that other people decide to do, they do because of how they feel about HIM, duh. & vuk being a prideful person who had no one else to turn to during multiple points in history, so he stuck to the one dude who WAS there like a little homosexual flea to a dog

he stalks ivan's instagram, has a helga from arnold-esque russia shrine in his bedroom and idolizes ivan (/has frequent dreams about having sex with him).

meanwhile ivan remembers to send vuk a happy easter card every year for that slay orthodox solidarity, and then forgets about him for another year because vuk's a huge pick-me girlie and it even weirds IVAN out a bit <3 his feelings are still overall warm but it's the difference in intensity that makes this dynamic very funny to me

[lemonhemlock]

panslavism!!!!

[drazenarts]

I’m a little shy to share my traditional art because I feel like it’s lacking in comparison to my digital. But I’m toughening up so here it is from a year ago. (Currently working on a different traditional piece. Based around Sibenik maybe I’ll post it maybe I won’t.)

Idk why I just feel the need to gush about my OTP. So here are some CroRus headcanons with bottom Ivan if that bothers you because you’re a sexist and a racist towards Eastern Europeans and a misogynist piece of shit that thinks Russia can only top please scroll away I have the right to talk about my ships without being death threatened. (I have faced some harassment over it in the past.) Anyway onto the HCs:

- Dražen is probably somewhat responsible for shaping the needy Ivan that we know today. Croatia invited Panslavism in the 1500s while Czechia and Poland popularized it in the 1800s so I can imagine him trying to rizz up Ivan with his ideas.

- They we’re actually war buddies all the way back from Austria’s Hapsburg years because of Austria’s alliance with the Russian empire before Austria betrayed them. (We all know Austria doesn’t fight for shit and leaves it to Hungary and Croatia lmao.) So they probably even went to fight Hungary together when Austria wanted her back right before Austria-Hungary happened. I feel like they would’ve never made their relationship official though so no one would know they were involved with each other.

- A multitude of Croats actually helped out with the Russian Revolution when they backed out in WWI. The Croats felt the liberation of the common class in Russia was a more honorable cause than to continue to fight for their Austrian dictator as they saw themselves in the situation and related feeling like they too were treated like second class citizens in the Austrian empire despite making up 80% of the military sector especially when it came to Navy.

- I just gush over this relationship dynamic all the time tbh because idk I just imagine socially awkward inexperienced with relationships Ivan getting flustered by very flirty, passionate bold southerner Dražen and it just warms my heart. It almost feels like the confident guy rizzing up the girl he knows has shit going for her but has no experience with men but it’s gay instead so yess.

Anyway I don’t really expect anyone to read or care about my personal rambles but I did wanna say I’ll try and be more bold on here and speak my mind more, which I really struggle with because I’m usually a very private and reserved person but I’m trying to be more open. Anyway that’s it, that’s the post.

[tooboredtothinkofaname]

I tyn věčor sławny teraźniejszy, Święćmo, jak starodawny obyczaj. Nie bez pieśni, nie bez granja, Dokad ognje świećat do jutrzenja! Bogi dobre, Przodkowie dobre, CZAS ROZPOCZĄĆ NAM UCZTĘ!

Kupała - czerwiec:

wianki

skoki przez ogień

inna niż zwykle zapowiedź biesiady - zamiast po prostu "Bogi rade, Przodki rade" jest cytat z Kochanowskiego:

"A teraz ten wieczór sławny

Święćmy, jako zwyczaj dawny.

Niecąc ognie do świtania -

Nie bez pieśni, nie bez grania!"

... Bogi rade, Przodki rade, CZAS ROZPOCZĄĆ NAM BIESIADĘ!

ślub Jaryły i Marzanny - uroczysty ślub z rzucaniem kaszą, wznoszeniem toastów itd.

pieśni:

- Przyszedł juz Kupalny Wieczór ("Woj Kupała!")

- Juże wieczór krótki, zapalmy sobótki

- Tam na wzgórze, na to wzgórze (Nocel mała, kopiel moja)

- Do ognia, Pani

- Na Ivana Kupała (ukraińskie)

- Kupała rozkupała (ukraińskie)

- Lipka

[ynneleac]

oh pansexual i thought the pan in your profile meant you were panslavic :/

[gardenofdelete998]

introducing a brand new panslavism: chechoslovenia. introducing a brand new anchluss that unites germany and australia

[stillness138]

sisterhood=panslavism and russian singing in ukrainian=cultural appropriation are the main points of criticism towards vesna's song. i cannot speak of the latter beside saying were it me i wouldn't feel comfortable singing it, but i don't think the former was meant to come across that way. czech women kinda get what's happening to ukrainian women now. there's a collective memory of the 'friendly help' invasion by warsaw pact armies in 68 and twenty years of very founded fear to walk alone, and even further back, of the 'liberation' by red army in 45 when the luckier families hid their young wherever they could. kremlin sends an army and women's suffering follows, and we remember that. i could go into depressing detail about the staging but point is... however bad the wording is, i think this is what it tries to say. or maybe i'm biased and overanalyzing, which is probably more likely. i just don't think there was malicious intent in making the song.