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Horrible staging idea: Hamlet, but every instance of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern’s names has been replaced with a different word or short phrase that starts with the same letter and scans the same way. Running Shoes and Gyroscope are dead
Horrible Staging Idea #105 (I think)
(this is horrible in the BEST way thank you)
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Love this talk about editions! A few more I’m curious to hear your thoughts on, Folger and Bevington? Folger seems to be more or less standard for American public schools, and in college my professor swears by Bevington, so those are the editions I’ve studied, but I don’t see much about either of them in these kinds of conversations.
Hello there @panhasablog! Good to hear you’ve been enjoying the editions discussion. I’ve heard that editions you mention are pretty standard editions in the US, but I haven’t had any personal experience with them since they’re not at all common in the UK where I live and work.
From what I know of these editions, though, they’re not the same scholarly standard as the Oxford Shakespeare, New Cambridge Shakespeare and Arden Shakespeare editions I covered in my original post on editions. They’re good in their own right, but the standard by which I’m judging is whether they’re suitable for in-depth, high-level study of Shakespeare.
The Bevington seems to be about as good as the Norton Shakespeare or the Riverside Shakespeare, and has about as much information as those tomes contain, with all the limitations of any complete works. And though I introduced one of them (the Norton) in my editions guide, I would say that a complete works edition is not ideal for serious Shakespeareans or anyone who wants to study beyond undergraduate level. I would even go as far as to say that a serious undergraduate should consult some proper single-text editions (in a library if you can’t afford it) instead of relying solely on a complete works.
I think I’m right in thinking, though, that the Bevington doesn’t include the different versions of King Lear, or many of the texts that are now considered part of Shakespeare’s extended canon (like the speech from Thomas More or Arden of Faversham). So in that sense some scholars, especially those interested in authorship, may consider it a little outdated.
As I said in my original post, there are a few standards by which I judge the scholarly quality of an edition which one can apply to any edition.
The first is the presence of comprehensive and in-depth scholarly footnotes (preferably on-page) that gloss the meanings of particular words and provide crucial historical interpretations of the text. Both the Bevington and the Folger have notes, but the Folger has only the most basic notes that take up a page all by themselves. The Bevington puts the notes on the page, and though they’re a little bit more in-depth than Folger, they’re still more geared toward students than scholars.
The second standard is how the edition deals with textual variations. I can’t get my hands on a copy, so I don’t know how the Folger and the Bevington deal with this, but don’t think they have it on page with the play text. Again, this is not information an average reader needs, but for a serious scholar, it’s crucial information, and renders the editorial process more transparent, since one can see the kinds of choices editors have made, and the choices they had to choose from, as well as any emendations to the text.
The final standard is whether the edition contains an extended introduction (at least a hundred pages in standard paperback size) that deals with the dating, provides a general interpretation, historical textual interpretations, the history of performance, and the approach the editor has taken in editing the text. You won’t find introductions of this kind in any complete works, and that’s fine, since there’s limited space in those kinds of editions. Like other complete works, the Bevington has a short introduction before each play. The Folger edition opts for a simpler general introduction which is great for the high school kind of level it’s aimed at.
So, as far as I know, the Bevington is a good complete works by a respected Shakespeare scholar that provides most things an undergraduate student of Shakespeare will need. The Folger is, again, a good edition that provides the kind of information that a high school student would benefit from, akin to the Cambridge School Shakespeare editions or Oxford School Shakespeare editions. It’s also good for a general readership like the Penguin Shakespeare. The point is that there are different editions for different kinds of readers, and what might suit one set of people won’t do for others. The reason you don’t normally find the Bevington and Folger discussed alongside the Oxford, New Cambridge and Arden editions because they’re not in the same category of edition.
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PLEASE go off about trans Edmund I’ve never thought about it but I love trans headcanons and I love Edmund so I gotta hear this
you might be thinking “wow did max take so long to answer this ask because he was constructing a 10k word response?” no i just have adhd i apologize for how long this has sat in my inbox
GOD okay so i am liable to headcanon any character i particularly like as trans, but i think it works really well for edmund in particular! edmund’s external struggle, at least at the start of the play, is that he cannot live up to edgar because of the circumstances he was born with, which are entirely out of his control. if we view edgar as a cis man (or amab at least idk we could get into trans edgar we could get into it), viewing edmund as a trans man adds another dimension - not only does no one take him seriously as a political figure / future heir / legitimate son, but no one takes him seriously as a man, either, or as a son at all. his jealousy stems from the fact that edgar has EVERYTHING through NO effort of his own - not just an inheritance and their father’s respect, but a “male body” and a man’s place in society, all given to him just because he was born one way that edmund wasn’t.
(”male body” in quotes because gender isn’t real and any man’s body is a male body etc etc but i mean a body traditionally recognized as male)
misc thoughts about this:
edmund makes use of subtlety and subterfuge, traditionally considered more “feminine” forms of battle, which, like. u KNOW this boy is gonna use anything he can to get a leg up and if that involves coming at problems from a “feminine” angle because he was raised as a girl then he’s gonna do it
his first monologue is the “thou, nature, art my goddess” speech, where he says that there’s no inherent difference between he and edgar, just the social construct of “legitimacy” separating them. his next monologue (”this is the excellent foppery of the world”), has him pretty much saying “fuck ‘fate,’ fuck ‘destiny,’ and fuck a tumblr astrology fandom, i am what i am because i choose to be and i would’ve been this way no matter how i was born.” with trans edmund, these also read as, basically, “look, i’m a man, i’ve always been a man no matter how i was born or what my body looks like, i would have been a man no matter how i’d been born, and the only reason edgar is seen as a man and i’m not is because of some bullshit social construct around the whole idea.”
i have a lot of thoughts about trans people going “fuck it, i’m gonna MAKE myself into who i am and i don’t give a shit what anyone else thinks about it”
edmund “i’m a man and neither you nor god can stop me” gloucester
depending on how you read gloucester - as a deliberately bad father or as a guy pretty out of touch with his kids - his acceptance of edmund as his inheriting son after edgar vanishes could be either “fuck wait i need an heir now i guess i’ll just pretend my daughter is my son” OR as “wait, maybe i need to get to know the bastard kid a little more?? maybe i should start with acknowledging the gender thing???”
speaking of edgar. ah, the age-old question: “why do edgar and edmund have names that sound so similar? that’s so confusing.” because edmund picked out his own name when he was a teenager and he wanted his name to match edgar’s because that was before their relationship fell apart :)
possibly a reason he jumps on the chance to court both goneril and regan so fast, because Gotta Prove My Manliness (and also, if you view him as either younger or just not sure what he’s doing, a reason why he gets in over his head so quickly)
possibly also a reason he agrees to duel edgar despite the fact that he doesn’t have to, because, again, Gotta Prove My Manliness (though i don’t think that’s the only reason!)
also also possibly. this post and this post combined in my brain today so please consider: edmund and cordelia are so so similar. cordelia is the anti-edmund, kind of, but she is also sort of the pre-edmund edmund. she’s the kid who was mistreated and didn’t turn traitor. she’s edmund before he went to the dark side, so to speak. and if edmund is trans she can also be likened to his pre-transition self. why does edmund want her dead so badly, even when they’ve never interacted on page? because he wants to kill his “old” self and this is the best way he knows how.
okay i’m done for now but i reserve the right to add onto this later. @ everyone if you make trans edmund content send it 2 me please. (gonna tag @suits-of-woe bc i think you mentioned wanting to see my theory??)
#max.txt#lear#edmund#GOD it took me forever to answer this i am so sorry. but i have a lot of thots. abt this man#panhasablog#asks#bottom bless thee thou art trans
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letting a boy turn into a car through the power of surge mixed with gasoline
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“I think i have a new theory on literary analysis. It may just be a...”
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okay so, there’s this subgenre of queer lit. its incredibly optimistic, happy, and blatantly gay. i call it, solarpunk queer. the elements of this subgenre is:
immediately blantantly queer, often as soon as the first page
an entirely queer cast (maybe one token straight character). characters themselves would identify in canon
characters are already ‘out’ by default
conflict is not about being gay. rather, it follows the traditional conflict of the other genre it belongs to (which is never drama. for example, rock and riot is also YA, and its conflict is about finding yourself and going to prom)
also follows the tropes of this other genre
if homophobia exists, it is veiled, in the rpg term of the word. characters can be affected, but only for a short amount of time, never severely, and is immediately resolved in canon
almost always written by queer writers. i’d argue that writers who aren’t queer cannot write this subgenre because:
blatant wish fulfillment
fannish (unashamedly uses fandom tropes)
found!! family! trope!!!
solarpunk. the world is dark but we have each other, and life is good
queer characters have plot armor. often no major character death
always has a happy ending
good examples include (in comics) heartstopper, castle swimmer, rock and riot, always human, griefer belt (in podcasts) kaleidotrope, love and luck, caravan, the penumbra podcast
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I think the time loop code is so that the first time the person in the loop convinces you they’re in a loop you tell them the code so they can skip the convincing in future loops
oh good point
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My wip is Speak What We Feel, what absurd thing is that about?
Weeeeeeeeee!!! Thank you for asking = D
In Speak What We Feel, teenage boy Roman has been in love with his best friend Gary since middle school. But every time Roman tries to confess, he can’t find the words- that is, until he discovers that due to an old family contract, he’s entitled to the services of Alyssea, the mysterious witch who lives in the swamp near his town.
Alyssea may specialize in revenge curses, but a contract is a contract. When Roman seeks her out, the witch agrees to help, but even with magic on his side, Roman just can’t seem to confess his feelings. Will Roman ever manage to be more than Gary’s friend? And will Alyssea’s ex-husband, the bloodthirsty swamp monster, get in the way of summer romance?
Send me your WIP’s working title and I’ll write you a silly fake short blurb based on whatever nonsense pops into my head when i read it
#panhasablog#honestly i hope the wip is exactly about this#who doesn't want a swamp witch to help with romance
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BOOK THREE! GIVE IT UP FOR BOOK THREE! we are still in aeneas flashback mode, but we're out of troy and into the wild wild world
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Which OC is the smollest?
OH GEEZ.
Height-wise, I think that Lydia or Mia (another Never to Return character wheeeeeee) are the smollest. But in personality? Hmmmm... Mark. Mark is the smollest.
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If Vasha had to sacrifice his beautiful luscious braid to save Kleos, how would that go down?
Vasha, sobbing: “But my hair!”
Kleos, cuts off a lock of their curls and weaves it into a little braid from what’s left of Vasha’s hair: “Now it’s all better. Better than before you cut it, even.”
Vasha, stares, still crying: “… it doesn’t match my color scheme.”
Kleos, finger guns: “But now you match mine.”
Fun fact, in a version of Iron From Fire prior to the creation of Kleos’s character, Vasha did have to sacrifice his braid to save someone, but while he might be just barely enough of a hero to do that, I on the other hand couldn’t bare him not having his luscious locks so I cut that segment. (Then I cut the entire book and rewrote it to be very different and also have Kleos in it, which was the best decision ever, because Kleos is the very best golden trash bag.)
#panhasablog#iron from fire#the warlord contracts#writeblr#my writing#my characters#my ocs#scheduled post
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Question about English grad school, just like, broadly speaking, what’s it like? What do grad students do? I’ve been talking with my advisor but all her experience is from several decades ago
Okay! So, my experience hasn’t been the normal one because of COVID (my school has been doing remote learning), and I’m learning as I go along.
My institution sets things up so that all English MA students are considered candidates for the PhD program. Some schools have terminal MA programs that set you up to apply for the PhD at other schools. So at my school (IDK what it’s like at others), there’s a lot of communication and community between PhD and MA students. Grad school in general is very much about forming connections with students and instructors. You aren’t just learning—you’re training to participate in the field. So making connections is a very important thing to do!
When it comes to community, some programs are more competitive than others. Thankfully, mine is not; the students are very supportive, and we all love learning from one another. My peers are just as much of a support network as the program faculty.
As a first year, I’m enrolled in a few seminars (the grad school name for classes). Generally, you’ll have to write a big paper at the end of each seminar. Writing these papers is a chance to produce work for conferences or, potentially, publication. Not every seminar paper is going to be great, of course. But they *are* a chance to develop your own scholarship. What sorts of things are you interested in researching? What are you contributing to the field with this paper? Those are the sorts of things to think about when working on seminar papers.
Speaking of research interests, as a grad student, you’re going to want to pick a speciality area. Your research interests are something that will develop over time, but it’s best to go into things with a general idea of what you want to study. This tends to be broken down into periods. There are 3 early modernists among the first years in my program, myself included. Our specific research interests are a bit more diverse: one focuses on women writers(among other things), one on book history(among other things), and I focus on early modern drama and Shakespeare studies (among other things). It’s good to define (generally) what you want to do so you can select your courses and start forming connections with the right people.
As I progress, I’m going to be working on research projects and such. For now, I’m focusing on my seminars and generally learning to be a grad student.
There’s also teaching! I have a graduate assistantship, and in exchange, I receive futuro on remission and a stipend so I can afford to eat. I can talk more about teaching another time, but that’s another thing to juggle among classes.
I hope this helps! I’m learning as I go along, so I’m happy to give people an idea of what that’s like!
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A) can I use your trans Viola drawing as an icon? (with credit, of course!); B) please elaborate on the whole-ass essay about trans icon Viola??; C) Hell Yeah Viola Trans
Yeah i’m always cool with folks using my art as an icon as long as you credit me for it, so go for it!
About the essay; its not like super exciting or anything its just something i wrote for my shakespeare class. basically i identified Viola/Cesario referring to themself as “poor monster” (in act II i believe?) for being both a man and a woman as a relatable trans mood and then proceeded to argue that they construct their own gender out of building blocks based in other gendered roles. So hell yeah Viola Trans!!!
#it was maybe the one time i actually cared about an essay i had to write lol#skiddy speaks#twelfth night#shakespeare#panhasablog
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I’m not quite sure, is it currently Duck Days 2019?
Yes! We’re building up a queue of posts tagged #duckdays2019 and we’ll start reblogging them on the 5th! (We’ve both been very busy the past few days so the blog has a bit of a late start, but that just gives you more time to make stuff!)
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interrupting the plan to save the world to channel willy wonka
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It's still Saturday where I am so please tell Fel I love him
i was gonna doodle u a thing but here’s a felix im working on
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What’s an off-brand easter egg?? What’s an *on*-brand easter egg??
the little solid eggs that come in a mass pack and they have the coloured foil but only one colour and there’s no labeling. that’s a bad egg.
the bigger hollow eggs that have the lines in them? A worse egg.
If you’re an egg and you look like this I’ll kill you.
On brand eggs include Cadbury except creme egg which is the worst egg.
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