#one of the first goth bands i got into was sisters of mercy

[archivedjuice]

many of you wouldn't know alternative if it bit you in the ass

[gabessquishytum]

So I think I will turn that 70s music AU into it's own thing, but never fear! I will not leave anyone Goth Dreamless.

So two ideas about Goth Dream. The first one is that he's the local weirdo dad to Orpheus, a bright and friendly student. He's always wearing black on black with nail polish and hair so weird it'd put Robert Smith to shame. But he's known for being one of the kinder, more caring parents. He hand makes special treats for Orpheus's youth league football team. He organizes expansive birthday parties for his son's whole class and don't even get started on their Halloween party. He has the biggest house on the block and turns it into a veritable Halloween amusement park with giant skeletons and an elaborate haunted house. Doesn't help that he has real taxidermied bats hanging from his ceiling. All in all, while he's weird, he's a good father.

Robyn goes to the same school on scholarship and Hob works multiple jobs to keep Robyn in this posh private school. Him and Orpheus became fast friends when Orpheus invited him over while they waited for Hob to get off his second job. Unfortunately they forgot to mention that to Robyn's dad. Which led to Hob frantically calling his son, then showing up to Dream's house furious that Robyn forgot to mention his little excursion to a stranger's house. Fortunately Dream, in his black silk pyjama pants and well-worn and holey Bauhaus shirt, sufficiently charmed Hob enough to invite the two over for dinner. Then when the boys tired themselves out running around the property and fell asleep in Orpheus's room, Hob got to tire himself out on Dream's prick.

The second idea I had when browsing some memes and saw a Goth Girl Simp starter pack which is totally Hob. Not that he simps over Goth guys and gals specifically, just that he has a crush.

Dream is everything he isn't. He's tall, thin, and so fair it's almost like he's a fairy. He's effortlessly cool and mysterious, never deigning to speak more than a few words with most people. He's a regular at Hob's pub but doesn't do more than drink merlot alone in a corner booth. Occasionally he brings a date, but he's seen those relationships come and go. The last girl, Thessaly, got so mad at his lack of attention that she splashed her drink in his face and stormed out. Hob comped her drinks and Dream left shortly after paying for his wine.

Joanna laughs at the whole situation. In her experience, lots of people want a goth partner, but the magic fades when they take off their make-up and walk around and their pillows are stained with black hair dye. Hob is not deterred! He wants that stranger carnally. But how is he going to relate to him? The hardest album he has in his whole flat is a copy of Diva classics covered by some punk band. He didn't spend much time with the punks or metalheads in school and couldn't tell a Christan Death song from Sisters of Mercy. Jo laughs at him the entire way through as she helps him spike his hair and paint his nails.

Then comes show time. Dream comes in every day around 7:30-8. He comes around dressed to the Gothic nines with two glasses of red wine. He had Jo put some Stone Roses on the jukebox. He casually sits in the booth and tells him drinks are free if he cares to give a little of his time. Dream bursts out laughing. That horrid, donkey bray of a laugh deflates Hob's ego terribly. He gets up to leave, but Dream grabs his hand. He's never had someone try so hard to cater to his fashion sense. It's not needed as Dream had a crush on Hob, and well, a full night full of fucking wine drinking wasn't on anyone's to do list before tonight, but Hob can't complain!

🎸

I dearly, dearly love the idea of Hob simping for goth Dream in literally any scenario. It just brings me so much joy. Like, the image of Hob laying on the bed watching as Dream goes through the process of making himself up: litres of white foundation, powder, yards of black eyeliner in complex patterns, shining black lipstick, dozens of items of carefully selected silver jewellery, half a can of hairspray. Hob is obsessed with the entire process. And of course Dream is a lucky bastard who doesn't need to dye his hair, but can you imagine the day he finds his first greys? He's locking himself in the bathroom patching up every single spot of hair that isn't absolutely pitch black. Hob diligently helps and doesn't even complain about the fact that they'll never get the stains off the sink. He assures Dream that no, he won't have to shave it all off like Andrew Eldritch. It's fine, no one will even see which bits are dyed.

And Hob is just as much as a simp on the days where Dream’s hair is sticking out at all angles completely unstyled, and he's still in his pyjamas at 2pm. Hob still takes his job as Goth Boyfriend Appreciator very seriously, thanks very much. Arguably Dream is at his MOST goth when he's wearing Hob’s tracksuit down to the local tesco and having a silent battle with someone's grandmother over the last Danish pastry.

Also!! Goth dad Dream has captured my heart because!!!! Goth baby/child Orpheus!!!! In his little black outfits and spikey hair listening to Siouxsie and the banshees on Dream’s ancient ipod!!!! I am weak for it. And of course he's besties with Robyn, who has inherited his dad's love of Clannad and Fairport Convention. A match made in musical heaven, bless them <3

[tragic-vaudeville]

is there any goth albums or bands you suggest listening too?

I listen to: all the cure goth albums, Selected Scenes from the end of the world by London after midnight, Ju Ju by Siouxsie and the banshees, Unknown Pleasures by Joy Division, Floodland by The sisters of mercy, In a flat field by Bauhaus, Ocean Rain by Echo & the bunnymen, one Ploho album (it’s in Russian), and two Molchat Doma albums (it’s in Russian 😭)

IN PROGRESS: Only a theater of pain by Christian Death and Clan of Xymox (I’m listening to it rn!!)

Right now I been looking threw Reddit for goth albums and one goth friend on instagram I follow your tumblr so I was wondering if you have any suggestions for bands and albums?

Also I went to your card and added you on air buds im on air buds (my name is Millie⁉️ and user is apolloflightsss or something similar to that)

oh i got plenty of recommendations for goth bands/albums!! i've limited down to 15 artists and 15 albums.

GOTH BANDS/MUSICIANS:

Love and Rockets

Depeche Mode

The Birthday Party

The Chamelons

Specimen

Rosette Stone

Skeletal Family

The Sound

Pink Turns Blue

Diva Destruction

Romeo Void

Play Dead

Faithful Dawn

The Damned (i specifically recommend their album Phantasmagoria bc it's their most iconic and gothic album it's so life changing vro)

Echo & the Bunnymen (okay im a huge bunnymen fan and im so glad you checked out ocean rain!! i really recommend listening to basically their first 3 albums before ocean rain (crocodiles, heaven up here, and porcupine) because they're super iconic and gothic. unfortunately from their 1987 self titled album and forward they lose their post punk/gothic sound and became like alternative dad rock. they're still good but those albums are hit and misses)

GOTH ALBUMS:

Hyæna - Siouxsie and the Banshees

Night Time - Killing Joke

Sleep in Safety - 45 Grave

Song and Legend - Sex Gang Children

The Nephilim - Fields of Nephilim

...If I Die, I Die - Virgin Prunes

Serpentine Gallery - Switchblade Symphony

Big City Fun/Blue Sisters Swing - Flesh For Lulu

All About Eve's self titled album

The Singles: 1981-1983 - 13th Chime

The Botanic Verses - The March Violets

Ceremony - Twin Tribes

Who's Been Sleeping in My Brain? - Alien Sex Fiend

Bloodletting - Concrete Blonde

Gag - Fad Gadget



[grzybjek]

for some reason i cant answer this ask directly BUT thank u user @honestlytastygayasstrash for the ask now get ready for the longest post ill ever write. I fucking love talking about my characters.

here they are. my scrimblos. :

Antek, token cis white man of the group: -ISFJ, he/him, age is around 18, listens to ABBA, Queen, Modern Talking, Manaam, Obywatel GC, Lady Pank and Depeche Mode.

(i think i wrote it on his ref sheet but he got his scar by simply tripping over a cupboard as a child. He doesnt tell anyone about this though and always comes up with different stories about how he got the scar. So some people think he got it by winning a bear fight or fighting a drunk old man)

-he is a fucking menace. and i mean it. most insane man on earth that always tries to grab others attention in the most dangerous and stupid ways imaginable. Also uses alcohol as his weapon to look and act more cool and always fails miserably. Hes also very noncommittal and always switches out the people that he talks to after a week, simply because he doesnt feel comfortable with anyone. But he still loves getting attention from others so he keeps getting into these relationships just to drop them later. Theres something different about Bianka and Gabriel though and thats why theyre friends. and I think his pinterest board explains his personality better than i ever will

and some fun facts! hes surprisingly good at cooking and is the only one in the group that knows how to drive a car.

if it comes to Bianka shes my favorite goth woman ever. Here is some info about her: -ENTJ, she/them, is around 17, listens to Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy, Myslovitz, Republika, Depeche Mode and The Cure.

-Obviously shes recognized mostly for her gothic makeup which I absolutely love drawing. And shes goth herself, and is even in a gothic punk band! The band members include her, as the bassist, Helena as the singer, Janek as the drummer and Antek used to play the keyboard before they kicked him out.

And this is how I imagine them:-) just two alt girls and just some guy. Love them

-Bianka is the most confident out of everyone in the group, even Antek who's all over the place. She knows when to stop talking unlike him though. However her being confident doesnt mean she likes being in the spotlight, in fact, she absolutely hates it. She hates that everyone is always listening to her and whenever she walks in the room all eyes are on her. So most of the times she just wants to hide and spends time in her little circle of friends, but if theres an emergency then shes the first one to intervene. She also has a very weird moral compass just like Helena so theyre best friends, obviously.

Literally her. A fun fact about her is that she has like four Siouxsie and the Banshees posters in her room and owns a golden retriver which I didnt name yet.

oh and i forgot to mention but Bianka has Chinese ancestors and has a lot of chinese facial features that I always fail to draw because I focus on her makeup too much.

The last one is Gabriel, miserable ginger guy whos also the main character of the plot and yet i know so little about him. Im still figuring out his personality honestly. Anyhow:

-ISFP, he/him, age 17, listens to Tame Impala, Gorillaz, The Strokes, MGMT, David Bowie, Dolly Parton and Depeche Mode. All three of them are Depeche Mode fans.

-As I mentioned I know very little about him. But I think hes more of watcher of the world around him than a member of it. He's mostly quiet because he cant figure out when its the best time to speak, unfortunately that also means he keeps his best jokes to himself. Hes also mostly dissociated from the world and tries to be an active member of it so bad that he always ends up doing stupid things or hurting himself in the process. I think its just safe to say hes still figuring out his place in the world, and because the world around him confuses him so much he holds onto safe memories most of the time. Thats why hes a photographer and likes catching all of the important moments of life on camera, its like a comforting feeling for him. Hes also very irrational and a people pleaser but i blame it on his undiagnosed AuDHD honestly.

questionable pinterest board explains his personality well too

-as hes the narrator of the story, its very important to mention hes a queer character. I avoided talking about the queernes of others characters on purpose, since its an important part of their story that i dont want to share yet but without any context ill just say that Gabriel is a trans man and bisexual!

as for fun facts he owns a cat named Felek, really likes green olives and lives with his grandparents. Antek also taught him how to drive a car but he never put that info in use.

AND HERE COMES MY FAVORITE PART!!!! ILL EXPLAIN THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN THEM ALL!!!

starting with Gabriel and Nastka, whom I didnt mention in this post as shes just a side character, its important to know that these two are childhood friends. Theyre not that close anymore, their relationship disappeared as time went on, but they both keep each other in their memories and think about each other a lot. They both nicknamed each other after Dead Poets Society characters too, so Nastka never calls Gabriel by his name, but Todd. Theyre also neighbours and share a balcony. Sometimes they meet there as theyre hanging up clothes to dry and just exchange smiles.

The relationship between Gabriel and Antek is more complicated. They met on a party once and never got to know each other better, but couldnt stop thinking about each other. Gabriel just knows about Antek from Bianka's stories and vice versa, and whenever they meet everyone thinks theyre best friends because of how well they can get along without even knowing a thing about themselves. They always end up dancing together on parties, going on walks at night and talking about their favorite books somewhere in the corner, having deep conversations about their views of life but they never ask each other personal questions and if you ask one of them to say whats their favorite color, they wouldnt know. I like to think the universe never gave them a chance to know each other better because if it did theyd be too powerful together. Maybe if they got to know each other better theyd be more than friends.

Bianka and Anteks relationship is pretty similar to the relationship between Gabriel and Nastka. Theyre also childhood best friends and first met each other in the counselors office in 6th grade as Bianka tried to beat someone up for being mean to Antek, a guy she didnt even know yet. She just needed an excuse to get in a fight with some boys that she didnt like and somehow made a best friend ten minutes later. Since then theyve been on and off, sometimes splitting up for months at a time and going back to each other to spill everything theyve learned while they were away. They always find support in each other even if they cant understand each other that well and are total opposites. Somehow Bianka always finds a way to cheer up Antek, even if shes the one to make him feel bad in the first place.

Antek was the first one to suggest they should make a band, and they tried several times until they ended up with Helena and Janek which I previously mentioned.

And the last one, Bianka and Gabriels dynamic..... its very cute actually. Bianka is the first person to show Gabriel the world around him and introduce him to new possibilities. She showed him goth dance moves and helped him find his taste in music. They met in high school as they sat together in math class and if not Bianka being confident and immediately accepting Gabriel as her friend, hed never speak to her. He probably still thinks shes too cool for him, but is very happy to have her as a friend anyway even if he feels belittled by her sometimes. Feeling belittled is why Gabriel usually doesnt speak to her first and waits until she does it first. They often do sleepovers where they watch all of their favorite movies for the tenth time.

Also they all have friendship bracelets. All three of them.

I dont know what else I could talk about so i think thats all!! Thats still such a long post I hope someone actually reads it. Thank you for asking about them I had so much fun writing this<3

I also purposefully avoided talking about the plot of Migawka because I want to keep it a secret. I really want to write a book or a comic one day with all three of the characters and so I wanna keep the plot to myself until I finish writing.

anyhow, heres migawkas pinterest board.

https://pin.it/7tFnFoH

[running-tweezers]

After a lot of encouraging from my bestie @phantasmechanical, and some interest from a few folks here, I’ve decided to post the first part of an AU fic I’m writing (and have been hyperfixated on) with my favorite ocs. There are currently 6 parts written, over 13k words, and I’m still working on it. If you enjoy, I live and breathe off comments and reblogs and asks and such. And I’ll continue posting more here on occasion. SO, without further ado.

~ Pictures Of You - Part 1 ~

The year is 1989. Nate, with his sunshiney smile, his love of plants, and his mostly “normal” tastes, has fallen head over heels. There’s only one issue. He’s fallen for a gorgeous goth named Zephyr he only sees on public access TV once a week.

Rated: T

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Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4

~ April 28, 1989 ~

Nate’s eyelids drooped a bit as the clock made its way closer to 1 AM. He would regret this in the morning. He always did. But it was worth it.

This Thursday night routine was all a secret for a while, until his sister started calling him out for nearly nodding off during their Friday lunch catch up sessions. He couldn’t hide it from her, he had to fess up. She had just laughed and rolled her eyes.

“Yeah, that figures,” she’d said. “You’ve always had a thing for the freaks.” She scolded him gently for not getting enough sleep and that was that, aside from the odd comment occasionally about his “hot TV goth.”

Nate poured a cup of the coffee he brewed just for this, hoping the caffeine would pull him through the next half hour without making him jittery all night. It was either that, or risk falling asleep on his uncomfortable couch again. Then he’d really regret it.

He settled in and flicked on the TV, switching it to the public access station before the screen could even fully light up. What played before varied from week to week. Sometimes it was this phony TV psychic, sometimes reruns of some televangelist, sometimes just infomercials selling Ginsu knives and love song compilations. He figured they couldn’t find someone willing to stick to such a late time slot. This week it was some New Wave guy with questionable talent and even more questionable haircut, banging on a Cassio keyboard and singing off key. He hit the mute button and sipped from his mug, waiting for the last few minutes to pass.

Soon the irritating Duran Duran wannabe cut out, and the screen filled with familiar color bars. He unmuted, just in time to hear the last bit of ringing dead air cut suddenly to the sound of guitars and deep droning vocals.

And there they were.

Behind a dimly lit desk in a brick walled basement, with thick black eye makeup and wild, ratted up hair, sat the whole reason Nate was still awake at this time every Thursday night.

“Welcome, night owls and creatures of the darkness.” The figure on the screen spoke to the camera, in a cold, deadpan voice, never letting their face show anything more than a wry smirk. “My name’s Zephyr and you’ve stumbled into my world for the next half hour. Aren’t you lucky.”

A phone number hung at the bottom of the screen as they continued their introduction. “If you have something worthwhile to say, call in. If not, don’t bother.”

They launched immediately into a long and rambling explanation of the song playing in the background that kicked off the show. Nate recognized the name of the band, ‘Sisters of Mercy,” from their music recommendations in the past. He barely knew anything about the goth scene they talked about. What he did know, however, was that they were gorgeous. There was something so entrancing about them. Something dark and mysterious that he couldn’t look away from.

Maybe Mick was right. Maybe he was just into freaks.

“Speaking of music, I got my hands on the single The Cure put out last week, the one from the new album coming out soon. I’m gonna get the album as soon as it hits the shelves, but whatever, I couldn’t resist.” Their face remained apathetic, but there was an undeniable light behind their eyes. It was obvious they were excited behind the thin mask of indifference. It was endlessly endearing.

“Fascination Street is the single, and it’s incredible, even the B-side is great—“ They paused looking down at their switchboard. “Looks like there’s someone on the line,” they muttered, fiddling with the buttons on the desk in front of them. “Hello, you’re on the air.”

“Yeah, me and my friend have a question,” the distorted phone voice slurred with the distinct cadence of a drunk college kid, with said friend laughing in the background. “Are you a guy or a girl?”

Zephyr breathed a weary sigh, and leaned back in their chair. “Doesn’t matter, I’m not gonna fuck you either way.”

“Who the hell said I wanted to fuck you, you ugly fucking frea-“

“Bite me,” they flatly interrupted, disconnecting the line. “Anyway, Facination Street…”

Calls like that were too common. More people called in to be rude than to actually talk. It just seemed to come with the territory, but they handled them pretty well. It took a person with a ton of courage to come on TV and deal with people like that, just so they could talk about things they loved. That only made them that much more intriguing.

“I got the cassette version, the 12-inch vinyl has an extended intro, plus an extra B-side. I heard that extended intro for the first time at the club the other night. I swear it was a fucking spiritual experience. Being on the floor at The Underground, listening to The Cure, with all those other people? That's church to me. That’s my religion.” He continued with that same intensity, as if nothing happened. That was their favorite band, they talked about them all the time. He’d never listened to any of their music, but every time he saw one of their albums on the shelf at the store, his mind lit up with recognition.

He daydreamed occasionally of bumping into them at Sam Goody, just by pure coincidence. Striking up a conversation. Asking them about what music they’d recommend. Hearing their passionate rambling in person. It was dumb. They probably went to much cooler, underground record stores than some mall chain. But it was nice to think about.

“We have another caller.” Once again they paused their stream of consciousness and pressed buttons on the switchboard. “Hello, you’re on the air.”

“The Cure sucks shit.” The voice on the other side of the phone managed to sound even more bored and detached, almost like it was a competition. “They’re nothing but mainstream garbage now.”

“Have you heard the new single?”

“No, but their whole last album was poppy bullshit.”

“It had a little bit of a pop sound, yeah, but the meat of what makes them good was still there,” they argued. “You’re acting like they became fuckin, Tiffany and started doing mall shows or something.”

“They might as well be.”

“I don’t think you know what you’re talking about.”

“Well I think you’re a poser.”

They noticeably bristled at the accusation. “I’m already halfway through my slot, I don’t have time for this shit.” They disconnected the call, looking a bit more shaken than usual.

Why did people call in just to be assholes? Maybe the anonymity combined with an audience was too sweet a deal to people like that. Nate genuinely couldn’t understand that way of thinking. Where was the joy in being mean to a stranger?

He glanced at the phone sitting on the end table by the couch. Calling in had crossed his mind before. He had even had the number dialed, ready to press the call button a few times, but he always chickened out in the end. What would he even say? He didn’t know anything about any of this. So he remained a silent observer, content to just watch this beautiful goth waxing poetic about the things they cared about.

They didn’t have to wait much longer for another call. They answered with a touch of exasperation. “Hello, you’re on the air.”

“Yeah, remember me, bitch?”

Without wasting a second, what was obviously the drunk caller from earlier, dove in with some of the most brutal nastiness Nate had ever heard anyone spew, much less a caller on their show. The onslaught of insults and hate speech seemed to be unending, attacking every aspect that he could think of. Nothing was off limits to this guy. It turned Nate’s stomach to be reminded so vividly how awful some people could be.

Zephyr didn’t look like they were faring well either. They scrambled to disconnect the call, blurting out a single shaky “fuck you,” before silencing him. They let out a heavy breath, their silence only accentuated by their faint music still playing in the background.

Something broke. The nonchalant, confident Zephyr he’d come to know through the screen was completely gone for a few brief seconds. Like they’d never been there.

They cleared their throat and sat back up straight in their chair, trying to regain composure. “Sorry about that,” they said, as solidly as they could muster. “Maybe we should just move on to something else…”

Nate made up his mind in an instant.

He grabbed the phone next to him and carefully dialed the on screen number, not hesitating to press the call button this time.

He twisted the cord around his finger as he waited to connect. The shift in Zephyr’s demeanor on screen let him know he’d gotten through. They looked defeated, like they were debating even picking this one up. He prayed that they did.

He saw the press of the button and heard the click from the phone a split second later.

“Hello?” They had dropped their regular script, too exhausted and annoyed to even finish it.

“Hi!” The first word out of their mouth was entirely too much energy, but once he heard that call connect, he was acting on pure instinct.

They relaxed, if only a little, obviously relieved to hear any voice other than the previous caller. “Hi?” they repeated, puzzled.

It hit him all at once, and he could only sit in silence for a split second. He was actually talking to them. Live on the air. He acted on such impulse, the only thought in his head was to block that asshole from calling back. He hadn’t thought past this moment.

“I uh… I didn’t really think through what I was gonna say.” Nate laughed nervously as he floundered for the right words. “I guess I just wanted to tell you that I really like your show? I’ve been watching every week for the last couple of months. I don’t know much about all this, but I like hearing you talk about it.”

Zephyr looked skeptical. “Is this some kind of joke?”

“No! No, I mean it!” Nate summoned every ounce of sincerity he could, to try and make Zephyr believe him. “You’re obviously really passionate about it, and I like watching you because of that.”

Yes. Because of their passion for their interests. No other reason. Especially not because he found them unbelievably sexy.

“Oh.” Zephyr’s drawn on eyebrows raised in surprise. “Well, uh. Thanks, I guess.” They struggled to accept the compliment and still maintain that mysterious facade. Nate thought for a second he caught the beginnings of a smile, but it may have been a trick of the cameras.

“You’re welcome.” He glanced at the clock. Just over 10 minutes of airtime left. If that guy wanted to call in again, he would have plenty of time to do it. He had to stay on the line and get them talking about something else.

“So, I do have a question,” he began, thinking back to his stupid record store daydream. “If I just walk into any regular mall record store, what would you recommend looking for if I want to ease my way into listening to stuff like this? Or do I need to look somewhere else for the good stuff?”

“Oh, that’s a good question, actually.” Their eyes lit up again, and they were off. “You can find good stuff there, it’s just gonna be the more mainstream artists. But there’s nothing wrong with that. I’m always gonna recommend The Cure, obviously. And no matter what that prick earlier said, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with their last album, and I feel like it’s pretty accessible. A good gateway, I think.”

He stayed on the phone, asking questions, and they were more than happy to answer them all. The next 10 minutes flew by, and soon he had a list of artists and albums scribbled on the back of an envelope.

Eventually, Zephyr cut themself off from the tangent they had been going on. “Oh shit, I’m almost out of time.”

“That’s ok, thanks for all the suggestions!” He couldn’t hide the smile in his voice, and it threatened to draw a smile out of the stone faced goth on the TV.

“Of course.” They answered, having turned that creeping smile quickly into a smug smirk, to maintain the illusion. “Have a good night.”

“You too!” He hung up the phone and watched as Zephyr went through their regular show wrap up. Only now did he realize how hot his face was. He made his dumb little fantasy come true, if not in the exact way he’d imagined it. And they came out of the horrible first half of their show unscathed. That’s all he could ask for.

“I suppose that about does it then,” they said, fully back in the swing of things. “Thanks for spending some time with me tonight. And remember, there’s beauty in the darkness, if you’re willing to let it in. Goodnight, and I’ll see you next week.”

The screen went black yet again, and Nate switched off the TV. He had to try to sleep. But between the coffee and what just happened, he wasn’t sure if he’d ever get there.

At least he’d have a hell of a story to tell his sister tomorrow.

[elliekillsu]

HI HI do you have any goth music recs? I know literally nothing about this sorta stuff but I so curious, it seems awesome

ABSOLUTELY OKAY I WILL LINK SOME PLAYLISTS AND SOME BAND RECS

This is my personal playlist I don't use or update it often but it's got some good ones I can confirm

This is a bigger beginners I guess playlist for goth music

Bands:

Bauhaus- the original goth band, their song bela lugosi is dead is considered the first goth song and the birth of goth music, reflected in their following music

Sisters of mercy- very very similar to bauhaus in style, they keep a dark tone to their music while keeping it upbeat while bauhaus did more lighter songs while still maintaining the gothic vibe

Siouxsie and the banshees- definitely the more popular of goth bands, siouxsie keeps the vibes while moving towards the new wave aesthetic

These three are absolutely the most well known and greatest presences in goth music, honourable mentions are absolutely needed for joy devision, twin tribes, London after midnight, Christian death and so so many more

[venusofvolterra]

Hi! As a baby bat and big Felix fan I'd like to hear more about goth Felix please 🥺

I definitely see Felix as someone who got into gothic literature as it came it emerged and was popularized in the 1800s (and is jealous that Demetri is the inspiration for Dorian Gray and not him).

Gothic literature has always been very cynical about human nature. Not only does this have synergy with Roman sentiments about human nature, Felix had seen the worst of these things in his human life and through time. He sees human life as a continuous struggle for power (and does see humans as uncivilized because of it and therefore his service to the Volturi being for the greater good ). Nonetheless, he finds us incredibly fascinating.

He is also fascinated with the science fiction and fantasy aspects of gothic literature — they get into to the seamy underbelly of human fears, particularly fears around death. If he’s being honest, he too is still toying with these fears. What happens when someone does manage to tear him limb from limb and set him on fire?

I can also see him being a big fan of the fashion from the time as well. He’d always been drawn to the dark and macabre. He likes it’s richness and frankly enjoys the fact that he gets to indulge in such luxuries in his indeed existence.

Now, as it pertains to the modern goth movement, he’d been all about it since it first appeared in the 80s. It’s a call back to all the things he enjoyed about the original goth period and he loves the music and fashion.

His favorite bands include Bauhaus, Type O Negative, Vampire Beach Babes, Catholic Spit, Sisters of Mercy, Rasputina, and She Wants Revenge.

As far as modern goth aesthetics are concerned, he’s partial to trad goth, Victorian goth, and Romantic goth.

Which also brings me to one of the biggest appeals of the goth subculture to Felix — the emphasis on eternal and all-encompassing love. I’ve said before that I truly believe he is a hopeless (Roman)tic who longs for true love. He’d be the kind of lover to die for you and pour his heart and soul into you. He’s definitely the kind of guy to say he doesn’t have sex, he only makes love. It’s a little cheesy but he really is just like an old cliche sometimes.

Okay, I think that’s all I have for now! The original discussion about goth Felix starts here.

[shishiikura]

would you give a few personal best goth albums/artists/recommendations

Absolutely I would love to!

I'm going to go by albums since that's how I find it easiest to get into music. Anyway some of my more well-known goth faves that I kinda always listen to:

Disintegration and Pornography by The Cure. Disintegration is one of my favorite albums of all time and its one of THE goth albums however I love all of The Cure's music so.

Violator, Black Celebration, Music for the Masses, Some Great Reward and Playing the Angel by Depeche Mode. You can't expect me to choose one album of theirs they are literally the peche mode. Their gothiest TO ME is Black Celebration though.

With Sympathy by Ministry. One of my absolute favorite albums this is peak cheesy 80s gothy synthpop. I also love the song Everyday is Like Halloween.

Floodland and First and Last and Always by The Sisters of Mercy. Another goth classic like true vampire music.

I like a lot of the usual 80s suspects that may or may not count as goth such as Joy Division and New Order (who i absolutely do count) Pet Shop Boys and The Smiths (debatable but probably not tho)

My more niche fave darkwavey type stuff:

Shattered by Glass Spells

Surf Goth EP and Surf Goth B-sides by Desmond Doom. They also have a new single I like called The Big Boys

Trauma Club or literally anything by Male Tears

Haunted Castle by French Police

Display Model by Harsh Symmetry

Reflections or really anything by October Burns Black

If you like more industrial angry doomy gothy:

An Overture by Youth Code

Anything HEALTH has ever done. I like their songs with NIN, Youth Code, The Soft Moon, and Street Sects (all of these are good bands on their own too)

New Flesh by Priest (supposedly these are former members from the band Ghost? I like them more personally)

I like a lot of industrial like KMFDM and Nine Inch Nails. KMFDM has a fuck ton of music so my fave albums are Tohuvabohu, HYËNA, Nihil, Adios and Hau Ruck.

I've been listening to a little more nu metal recently since that's my bfs specialty and we have that blend playlist thang and he recently got me into Tonight the Stars Revolt by Powerman 5000. It's fun cheesy sci-fi nu metal I really enjoy it.

[liliththeblackmage]

Sanguivore, some thoughts

I made a post on here about a year ago about seeing Creeper play a headline show at London’s Roundhouse, a show which brought an end to the era of their last album, Sex Death and the Infinite Void, and an end to their time with American creativity devouring label Roadrunner. it also came with a new song Ghost Brigade to set the tone of the new era and hold fans over for a full release at some point in the future.

This show came at a really interesting time for my relationship with the band, I had been falling out of love with them slowly but surely since the end of their first album cycle back in 2018. A combination of a disappointing ending to the album cycle and very disappointing second album cycle, my tastes changing and a several unpleasant experiences with other fans lead to me being very ready to bookend my fandom of this band with a show, something I’ve done with other bands in the past. Luckily the show went some way to revitalizing my appreciation for them.

In the intervening 11 months, I’ve seen them close out a packed stage at an even more packed Slam Dunk festival, heard Ghost Brigade live and followed the announcement of their third album titled Sanguiovore. A darker, heavier project produced by Grammy award winning Tom Dalgety.

I wanted to collect my feelings on the record as I went through it, a sort of first impressions / general thoughts, mostly focused on the writing and production as that's where my interests generally lie in discussing music.

Further than Forever I really felt like this song struggled to justify its length, its 9 minutes purely because Meatloaf and Steinman did 9 minute songs so we should too. I had to listen to this track several times to fully get my thoughts together on it, and it felt exhausting to get to the end of every time. Despite that the track had some really cool musical motifs and despite it being a pastiche of Steinman, a lot of Creepers uniqueness shows through. There are definitely parts of this song that could have done with ADT or actual double tracking.

Cry To Heaven The Production of this track is really is what makes this track work, if the snare was even a tiny bit less punchy, or the synth less full, it would be all the worse for it. in terms of composition it takes a lot of its moves from Floodland era Sisters Of Mercy, its cheesy yes, but the performances really sell it, everything in terms of the performance is on point, and its very much held up by that production, I genuinely think that no other producer they have worked with could have made this song work. They manage to pull of a unironic up a fifth key change with as straight face, which is an achievement in itself.

Sacred Blasphemy Sonicly this is they’ve come so far to anything they’ve released previously, its got the AFI punkyness with a hint of Revenge era My Chem in it, but its still shown through the lens of this project, with its moody goth overtones. Will stays in a lower register for nearly all of the song, which seems to be a trend in this record. its a very short track, but it hits all the right notes despite that, in the same way AFI’s Sacrifice Theory on The Art of Drowning does. This track makes heavy use of double tracking for both vocals and guitar and it really adds to the atmosphere of the track. This the first track where their new drummer gets to flex their chops over the previous drummers much more wooden performances.

The Balled of Spook and Mercy A slower number, which is appreciated after the last one. The first track to really talk about the narrative in detail. Once again pulling from the Steinman playbook in terms of composition, performance and production, though there are elements of Murray Gold in the track composition, reminding me a lot of his early work on Dr Who. Lyrically, I struggle to place it, it reminds me a lot of folk and country songs that are more of a story with a backing track than a song. The guitar solo interlaced with a harpsichord reminds me a lot of Mike Oldfield for some reason.

Lovers Led Astray I got notes of surf rock in the main guitar motif. In a crude way of describing it, its sounds like the B52s decided to try and make a goth project. (have been reliably been informed this is what The Cramps sound like). I wish in terms of production it leaned into it more, the thick marshal amp sound does it a slight disservice. I really enjoy that the band have embraced synthesizers on the latest record. I think this is my favourite track, purely because of how weird it is. If you want a track that sounds like Judas Priest and Andrew Eldritch made a surf song, this is it.

Teenage Sacrifice This song is a perfect love letter to 80s metal, without losing sight of the tone of the rest of the project. It is VERY apparent that the producer worked with Ghost on some of their best work on this track, pulling out some of the same stellar production choices here that he did on Prequelle. I do wish there was a bit more too the verses musically, as their sparseness does leave you to focus on the lyrics, which are passable without being anything special, a common issue of classic metal which is usually overlooked because the tracks dont slow down to let you think about them.

Chapel Gates The Punk influences return with a vengeance, if Teenage sacrifice was Creeper do Judas Priest, this is Creeper do The Damned. it also has small amounts of the surf influence in it again which is a welcome addition to me. This song has one of the catchiest and most enjoyable choruses and I think this one is going to be a lot of fun to hear live. Much like Sacred Blasphemy it really lets their new drummer show off his skills with a set of complicated fills which would have been unheard of in previous tracks

The Abyss The Abyss is a short musical intro for the next track.

Black Heaven A wonderfully moody goth track, lots of 80s goth and post punk influence, from the slightly off kilter disco adjacent drum beat in the verse (again showing off their new drummers skills here), to the reverb drenched subtractive synths in the background and the minimalist motifs in the first 2/3rds of the song, the bridge and ending of the song drift back into something that fits the rest of the record more, with a ripping melodic guitar solo and layer upon layer of vocals gently taking the song to its end point with a ethereal repeated vocal part

More Than Death The final track on the record, in keeping with their previous releases its a piano and vocal lead ballad. Its certainly their most hopeful of their album closers, compared to Eternity In Your Arms’ I choose To Live and Sex Death and the Infinite Void’s All My Friend. This comes at a cost I believe, those two tracks were written from an incredibly genuine place, barely attached to the narrative of the previous tracks, commenting on the state of the band and the health of its main writers. This track, at first glance anyway, feels artificial in comparison, going through the lyrical motions of a Steinman ballad. In spite of this it is a very enjoyable closer and I think will make an appropriate song to end a set with.

I think my biggest criticism of the album is the lyricism, now lyrics have never really been the biggest strong suit of the band, this is album is no different, I think it sticks out a lot more here because the rest of the composition is so good, whereas the quality of lyrics haven’t really developed much since their singers previous bands early releases.

Overall this album represents a return to form not seen since the 2016 EP ‘The Stranger’ (potentially earlier depending on who you ask). Creeper have embraced what worked about their early work while being able to experiment with new sounds and styles on this record, leading to their best Album by a mile. it’s cheesy yes, but they lean into it in a way that makes this the musical equivalent of a hammer horror film.

[lilalilan]

About a year ago I got inspired by some of the posts @rivetgoth made to get involved in my local goth scene. I ended up going to a local goth night for my birthday, and tonight was the first time at that goth night since my birthday and like. It's crazy how different things are now.

I have so so many friends that I've met at goth nights, or through people I met at goth nights. Instead of going alone I actually have people to go to goth events with if I want, but I also have the confidence to go to new events by myself now. I've gotten to see Lead into Gold, Skinny Puppy, Sisters of Mercy, and Ministry, all bands I love but didn't really know last year. I've been more deliberate about the clothes I buy, preferring things that are good quality and would also work for goth events. I've gotten most of my accessories from vendors at goth events, and it's always great supporting cool local people and getting to know them better. I even met my girlfriend at a goth event!

Having things to look forwards to and dress up for on a regular basis is really helpful. Having a place where I can be my weirdest self and no one cares because they get it means so much to me. I literally dressed like a clown today and everyone I spoke to loved it.

It's wild that it's only been a year. I'm excited for the next one!

[fortressofserenity]

Between the two

When it comes to Goth cartoonists on the Internet, I feel that while Kai Decadence is one of the first that I got really interested in, it's Arden Wachowski who's the more talented of the two. Generally better sense of anatomy and while their comics aren't always so polished, there's something of an interesting story and angle not commonly found in Anglophone North American comics. As they're Canadian, Cold Hard Teeth is more interesting than say Captain Canuck.

The latter's a Canadian superhero as conceived by actual Canadians, but while the stories he appears in are serviceable, Cold Hard Teeth blows the waters off of it because it's not only more readable but also has a more interesting premise. It's about two musicians who go Goth upon realising that they're monsters, also they're into bands like Bauhaus and Sisters of Mercy which makes the Goth angle all the more authentic and sincere. In ways those written by non-Goths don't get immediately.

There's a gulf of difference between something like DC's Black Alice and the characters at Cold Hard Teeth, or for another matter Courtney Gripling's Goth makeover. Courtney being this character from As Told By Ginger, but like I said earlier Gordon's and Tanner's Goth makeover is sincere as their author actually got into Goth punk music at some point and stuck to it. For all its faults, it's really well-written and it's refreshing in a sea of bland superhero stories.

Kai Decadence's stuff tends to be more sexualised, in the sense that he fetishises not only muscular men, but also bodybuilders and it shows in the way he draws cartoon characters. The less is said about his fursona, the better. While Kai Decadence is one of the earliest I got into, Arden Wachowski's better even if their art's not always polished but is at least interesting.

[maximuswolf]

Listening to the Sugarcubes' first album and thinking about the darkwave bands

Listening to the Sugarcubes' first album and thinking about the darkwave bands The actual term "darkwave" didn't get used much before the 00s, maybe the 90s, as I recall. (Can't back that up.) In the 80s we just called it new wave. Obviously lots of people here were there back then. I look back at some of what I considered "good" music, and it did actually need to be dark. Mainly in the lyrics. The Pixies' "Doolittle", for instance, was wildly successful, in part, because the lyrics were so incredibly morbid. Black Francis talking about hating himself so much he invites all his enemies to torture him to death over an afternoon ("Gouge Away"), or how he didn't consider himself a lightweight in the world of punk rock. He considered himself as hardcore as the movie Un Chien Andalou, with the actual razor slicing an actual eyeball. Or any number of other songs on there, although of course not all of them.The same time I had the Doolittle cassette I had the Sugarcubes cassette, and that first album is still amazing. Not just for the famed back-and-forth that rock critics hadn't been able to salivate over since Exene Cervenka and John Doe back in the early-80s. But it also had an "edge", as I would have called it back then. The first song is about facing execution. The second is a happy little song about accidentally causing a road fatality. The third is either a heartfelt ode to how it's totally okay for little kids to hang out with old men in the bathtub while they sew spiders into their underwear, or, hear me out, it's intentionally creepy. There's the song about collecting children. There's the song about the suicidal naked man who Bjork brings back from the edge with sweets and sex. All sorts of wonderful stuff.Around that time we had the Jesus and Mary Chain writing love songs with just a hint of thematic tie-in to Christ being crucified ("April Skies" -- complete with crucifixion cover) or songs about true love being like a force of darkness. (Half the songs on "Darklands".) But even earlier, Siouxsie and the Banshees made a real thing out of it. Their second album (massively overlooked) was just non-stop dreariness, and they did happen to write a song about torturing children to death ("Pulled To Bits"), and one about getting tired of watching videos of people being tortured, since she wants to see the real thing. ("Monitor".)And there's a ton of stuff to point to, from Wire to The Smiths. But point is, new wave had to go to a darker place, and yet we never really categorize it in any particular way, maybe because it was so natural back then. The first bands to go further than NYC punk were called new wave (Blondie and Talking Heads) and they never got that heavy, really. The first bands to go further than UK punk were called post-punk (Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, The Cure, Wire, The Chameleons, Bauhaus, PiL and Gang of Four). And they *did* go too far. (The second PiL album is also an overlooked gem of non-stop dreariness.) There were the bands that went dark in a poetic way, and they got called goth (The Cure, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy). You then have the endless question mark that tries to define the difference between alternative rock (Love and Rockets) and indie rock (Pixies), and never quite gets there. But darkwave is more an idea. That's really anyone who darkened their material. Does anyone else remember it being like this? For instance, the follow-up to Doolittle, the Pixies album Bossanova, aside from not having as many memborable tunes, also lacked a sinister streak. It was irritatingly positive. I remember Black Francis (or maybe Kim Deal) saying something back then like, "We don't always want to talk about death. Maybe we want to talk about UFOs."Sorta TL;DR -- I'm guessing I wasn't the only one in the 80s who needed their underground music to go to dark places. It puts more context to grunge, and later on Britpop. Or is that a construct? Is it always like that? Submitted July 11, 2024 at 09:04PM by Nerditter https://ift.tt/gMnPRDO via /r/Music

[gothethite]

Fave goth songs this year: 1. Crescent and the star - Sunshine Blind Gothic Rock

Honestly my favourite Sunshine Blind song objectively is probably burned at the stake now, but I'm a bit emotionally attached to this one. I spent a lot of time this year driving around alone and camping etc. to see cool landscapes and stuff + moving around between states so yeah. I really like the buzzing instrumentals and the way the singers vocals kind of match that in a way that's a bit hard to describe.

2. Telekinesis - Altar de fey Deathrock

I really like all the space imagery and stuff in this song, I read a lot of science fiction and this song just feels like a scifi short story thing. Also I really like the way the fast, discrete drumming contrasts with the guitar where all the notes blend into each other.

3. A fever dream - Mors Syphilitica Ethereal wave

This was my ethereal wave year tbh, I used to not listen to it much but it was probably my top genre this year. I love the really dramatic soaring instrumentals and vocals but the drums make it a lot more like, heavier and driving in contrast to a lot of ethereal wave I find a bit boring. Also the singer's vocals are so cool.

4. Silent Thunder - Mephisto Walz Deathrock

So according to spotify Mephisto Walz was my top artist, and though I also listened to a ton of stuff on youtube, bandcamp and mp3s that's probably right overall. I absolutely love Mephisto Walz's instrumentals and the kind of monotone sinister vocals go so well with them... they're probably my favourite of any bands I can think of.

5. Strange Weather - Dead Spells Deathrock? Their bandcamp and stuff says post punk and darkwave but the drumming and guitar sounds make me think deathrock tbh

Ok usually I like really dramatic instrumentals and stuff but I also really like the spooky more hollow sounding usually deathrock stuff but I think it's reallyyyy hard to do well without sounding boring but all this band's stuff is great. The lead singer's voice is great and I like the kind of tense tone of the lyrics. I could listen to this song on repeat for hours tbh.

6. The Future - Second Still Post Punk

Second Still is a really great band I'm so sad they broke up :(. They're also influenced by no wave so they've got some really interesting rhythms and stuff, it's more obvious in some of they're other songs on the album. The lyrics and stuff are also interesting it's very detached yet kind of upbeat which like so true...

7.Valentine - Sisters of Mercy Gothic Rock

The instrumentals and stuff make such a spooky ambience I love it. Also I think the anti war and militarism message is really relevant (Like yeah Andy's pretty obnoxious in a lot of ways but the anti militarism messages and critique of cold war unhinged nationalist mutually assured destruction stuff are so true. I keep seeing people going 'gothic rock has always been apolitical' and it's like mate. sisters of mercy is NOT subtle lmao what do you think the rain in first and last and always represents...) + the juxtaposition of really mundane imagery of everyday stuff and descriptions of like conflict really feel like this year tbh like I wake up in the morning and read the news and it's like wow. there's a lot of horrible stuff happening, a terrifying rise of far right groups and climate change and stuff. ok time to make breakfast and go running and study for my bio test I guess.

8. Dusk of Hallows Gothic rock? Post punk?

Corpus delicti has the best synth of goth bands imo. ok 100 years by the cure is extremely good too but the echoey soaring synth in corpus delicti is really good in way more songs it's so dramatic and the switching between the quieter synthy bits and the loud drumming and guitar works really well.

9. Remedios the Beauty - Strange Boutique Ethereal wave

I love the instrumentals in this, like I love screechy soary synth and guitars and stuff but this song kind of did the opposite with more clear instrumentals sounding a bit more like plucked strings I guess and it sounds really cool! Another of the songs that got me really into ethereal wave this year.

10. You bleed me - Suspiria Darkwave/Gothic rock

Over the last year Suspiria has become my go to 'it's 4 hours past time to go to sleep but I really need to finish this essay'. Very upbeat and also kind of fun in a silly vampire way. In a slightly different world where I was a more social person this would be the drag king music I would pick tbh.

[all-things-gothic12]

SOME OF MY FAV GOTH (Industrial too) SONGS

For my third post instead of info dumping on a plethora of broader topics like I've done in my previous two posts I thought I'd share some of my favourite Goth songs. Every song on this list in some shape way or form has either inspired me, resonated with me, or I have some sort of nostalgia around.

For this first pick I want to start with one of the more nostalgic songs, "On A Roll" by Ashley O. Now,,, I know what you're probably thinking: This song is not in any way shape or form GOTH. And that's correct but it does lead into actual goth music..

To give context, 'On A Roll' is sung by Ashley O in an episode of Black Mirror, after watching this subsequent episode I dug a bit deeper into the lore of the song and learnt that 'On A Roll' is actually a 'cover' of the hit song 'Head like Hole'. And, although I've always been interested in rock music, listening to this Nine Inch Nails song, absolutely broadened my horizons on music as a whole. Many people argue that Nine Inch Nails is Industrial and not Goth, but there are Gothic elements within NIN so I thought it was appropriate to still include this song on this list. (Also because of how influential it was in my discovery of other industrial + goth bands).

Here's the song itself, and you can see that the imagery of this performance and the lyrics itself are absolutely sublime, with it's edgy aesthetic, meaningful lyrics and total goth rock, industrial aesthetic it's definiently one of my favourites.

Secondly, Type O Negative!

I love this band and one of my favourites songs by them is 'Be My Druidess'. The song itself is super sensual and has super catchy lyrics. Peter Steele's voice carries heavily throughout the entire track, not to forget the amazing backings of every other members insane instruments. It can be listened to as a love song or as something more dance-esque. There's that variability that is great because it's a song you can listen to whenever whereover. (I'm also a sucker for good gothic romance songs lol).

Thirdly, Depeche Mode

This is probably one of their most popular songs ever, and for good reason. I've listened to this song hundreds of times on Spotify. I always end up going back to this song no matter how many times I say it's overplayed lol. This song perfectly encapsulates the dreamy aesthetic of goth-ness. Dave Gahan's vocals are absolutely fantastic, the romantical essence that he's able to convey within this song never grows old. The chorus itself being terribly catchy lol. It's a great dance song and a great love song! Total versatility in that regard.

Finally, I want to touch on a song that I recently just got into even though I've known of the band for agesss.

I've listened to Sisters of Mercy for years but never bothered to check out certain songs/albums just because of pure laziness. Finally, I decided, I'd check out some of their other stuff and wow I was not disappointed. Like their other songs 'More' is totally epic. The opening instrumental with the intense viola? Absolutely blows my mind, the lead in with his raspy vocals and the drums are just fantastic. Not to forget the harmonies with the backup singers. Also, the lyrics themselves? Fantastic, simple yet super in depth, and emotionally expressive. 'More' is truly the epitome of a goth song. And I can't believe I didn't know of the song sooner. But this just goes to show that 'new' songs and bands will always be discovered and that's just fantastical.

Thanks for reading my blog. If you have time please listen to the songs ranted about, they're wonderful.

[i-arch-my-backula]

i’m not super into stranger things but steve and eddie got me acting tf up🫣🫣🫣

steve + eddie with a s/o who’s goth. dresses all dark and listens to metal the works. thank you and love you sm. don’t work yourself too hard you’re amazing

Ok so I was goth for awhile, I just want to branch out my style and I don't listen to many goth bands anymore but I do admire goth people and things like that so I'd love to write this. The goth subculture did come around in the late 70's early 80's. Around this time trad goth was the biggest sub set of goth so thats the kinda music and style they have. 

Eddie Munson and Steve Harrington with a goth s/o

Eddie Munson 

You being goth and listening to metal is what drew him in at first. Your big teased hair, bold eye makeup, all black edgier clothes just called out to him. 

He loves dating you so much dear god. You’ll be refered to as the “freak couple” if people know about the relationship. He loves that too. 

Please do his eyeliner. Just simple little lines on his eyelids and waterline. Like the simple kind. He’ll beg you to do this for you. 

Tell him about goth bands and he’ll listen to them. The Cure? Siouxsie and the Banshees? Bauhaus? Sisters of Mercy? He’s making a list and getting new tapes. 

Will take you to where he gets his jewelry and if you’re the same size will borrow your clothes and let you borrow his. 

If you dye your hair black or any other colors he’ll help you redye the colors or just add a new one. 

Will make patches for you if you have patch pants, battle vest or jacket. 

I feel like he has a lot of spray paint so if you need so paint something black he’s your man. 

Steve Harrington

To be honest he was a little scared of you at first but would still be nice. Might make a comment on how you look, but not a like creepy or rude one. 

“You’ve got a cool style, I’ve never really seen this before.” “How’d you get your hair like that?” “Your makeup is pretty neat? How long does it take to do it?” 

Might be a bit embarrased at the looks you two get going out together. It doesn’t mean he won’t go out with you he might get get tense. But if someone makes a rude comment he’s quick to defend you. 

He’ll like some of the bands you listen to. Mainly The Cure and Siouxsie and the Banshees. 

He’ll keep an eye out for stuff you might like. Rosaries, fishnets, leather jackets, chains, etc. 

[utilitycaster]

Thoughts on the new subclasses in Reborn?

Juggernaut, Runechild: they're perfectly fine but I didn't find them terribly interesting in the TCS, I don't find them much more interesting now, and I haven't had the time nor inclination to do a line-by-line comparison. The runechild's subclass spell list/ability to take arcane abjuration or transmutation spells does look great though. Oh also the aegis stuff seems like what if power surge, but good, and I like manifest inscriptions. Actually I take it back, Runechild seems pretty cool. Juggernaut is also like, mechanically good, I'm just like "ok cool you knock things over, that sounds fun for you I guess".

Circle of the Blighted: I have to keep it real with you: it's been a particularly busy couple of days for me and that has not improved by the fact that I gave blood for the first time in a couple years on Monday night.* I've tried to read through this class like 5 times, and every time it's just like. Mii music. I retain nothing except there's a picture of a firbolg somewhere.

Cobalt Soul, Open Sea: the changes to the classes as they were by the end of C2 seem good, and I love the new Open Sea spells. Also: hottest NPC art in the book.

College of Tragedy: In which Dungeon Master Matthew Mercer** really engages with his love affair with balancing out cool buffs with doing damage to one's self (see also: the high level chronurgy wizard feature I wrote a VERY angsty fic about before I realized Essek was a graviturgist; blood hunter; blood cleric; blood wizard). I have to say. it's A Lot. In the hands of a good player it will be great. In the hands of a focus-pulling player it will be hell. None more goth. Nimbus of Pathos is my D&D themed Sisters of Mercy tribute band name.

Moon Cleric: perfect. beautiful. I love them. But for real the features are great - I love the dual concentration mechanic and think it's a good balance for something that could get out of control, and the eclipse high level feature ties into Ruidus lore wonderfully.

Blood Cleric: pretty evil! I do like the ability to take damage to recover spells as a cleric, and crimson bond seems very useful. I don't love blood puppet but that's possibly just because I'm just not super into the term "blood puppet." Also I have to say: Vascular Corruption Aura is cool but I think it would be cooler if it was like, a monk's quivering palm except your blood explodes in a few days.

Blood Wizard: BLOOD WIZARD.

No but really blood channeling is very cool, Matt continues to explore his other mechanics interest, making others feel your own pain in combat (he's got a blood hunter rite, tether essence, and now Bond of Mutual Suffering aka Nimbus of Pathos's album title), and Thicker than Water finally makes your poor wizard who's just been bleeding themselves to make material components a little less anemic.

*I did NOT receive any material components in return unless you count a little bag of Chips Ahoy.

**say this three times fast