#ok jk dr horrible in general

[fishingonurano]

Do you guys think that if Berkut survived on SoV he would have had an Everything You Ever moment??

[mimikabii-archive]

I'm genuinely stupid sorry lol but what's proship? is it like people being ok with shipping gross/immoral crap or just shipping generally or?

This is gonna get a bit long but tldr:

1) Proshippers are okay (And Usually Engage WITH) gross/immoral shipping. They either don't Care abt people that do this/ "dont care what people ship" (or again. Do it themselves) and thus should not be interacted with.

2) I ask that anyone who IS a proshipper or abides people with that term to unfollow/block me rn 🖕

So proshippers say they dont care about what people ship as a defense for their actions of engaging with such gross/immoral material (and include how people are Policing their ships this is a BIG dogwhistle right here on how they phrase it) I'm going to assume you've read all those "fiction affect reality" posts (Example One: Sharks after the release of Jaws. Example Two: JK R0wlings influence associated w Harry Potter success in Real Life Politics ) and agree with them and now see how Proshipping mentality is a Very Bad One.

Now proshippers are aware of this, so they decided to make a term so that the "other side" (y'know so Normal People who think that shipping 1nc/est and ped0 things is Wrong) seem so "horrible" and "policing for the smallest things!!!" : Antis

I wouldn't suggest taking this title up for oneself as its basically a dogwhistle for proshippers and also people who were not aware (presumibly, such as you were anon). stay away as the title suggests a negative tone. but basically being an "anti" means youve got fuckin enough common sense/decency to think its Not Okay to ship gross/immoral ships.

I am not saying to Directly Harass anyone who agrees with this term (and proshippers utilize this for the Anti terms so ur just feeding fuel to the fire there). Some people say they're Proship because they do not understand Exactly what it means (maybe they don't abt shipping but DO care when it involves gross/immoral ones etc.) in which case inform them of what it truly means and the negative correlation with it. If they still stick with the label, I'd no longer engage w the person and just Block.

BASICALLY if u see something like THIS in anyways faq, caard, etc, they support those gross shit but make it seem like the other side is "Sooo Picky for No Reason!!!" (taken from that headmods faq page from that dr coloring book zine btw yesterday lol)

[clowniconography]

Someone told me that there were 2 satanic temples and one of them was kind of wack but the other was cool

omg thank you for giving me an excuse to talk about this!! also sorry in advance for the long ass two part explanation but satanism is definitely becoming a new hyperfixation for me and you asked for it soooo (TL;DR at the end for your reading leisure).

ok so the two most well known satanic organizations are the satanic temple and the church of satan and most likely these r the ones you were told about. like I said I actually ended up having to cut this post into two parts because it ended up being so long so here's part one:

1.) the satanic temple

the satanic temple was founded in 2012 by lucien greaves and another guy who doesn't matter (jk his name is malcolm jarry and he's actually a musician but he's not really associated with the temple anymore) and they're probably the "cool" church out of the two. this is the one that's always doing all that cool pro-choice and pro separation of church and state activism you're always hearing about, as well as famously performing a pink mass to posthumously turn the dead mother of the founder of the westboro baptist church into a lesbian for eternity. While in general I agree with a lot of the positions that the satanic temple holds, and i think their activism and the way they intentionally try to make fundies mad is very cool, i have a few issues with them.

first of all, they are basically an athiest activist group in a satanist hat. They espouse basically zero spiritual beliefs related to actual satanism and are described on wikipedia as a "nontheistic religion". on their website they generally use a horribly patronising "we're not one of those silly superstitious religions that actually believes in our diety" tone in regards to religion which I honestly find so gross. I understand that they use satanism specifically to draw attention to themselves and draw the ire of fundamentalist christians, and as I said I can definitely respect that. however I personally am not an athiest and I think its kind of dumb to do all that just to be a bunch of basic ass athiests who happen to have a shared value system at the end of the day, especially since there are a lot of other very real religions that actually have pro life and anti child abuse messages that are already part of their religious teachings. So, i'm not necessarily going to get mad at anyone for being a member of this particular satanist group but i'm not a big fan.

my second issue is named lucien greaves. he's the one of the two founders who's the most publicly associated with the temple and acts as its spokesperson. he is a very controversial figure. I don't really have much else to elaborate on except that I just kind of think he's a dick. I already hinted at this a little bit in this post but the fact that the satanic temple was founded so recently by someone I like so little means that I, personally, can't in good faith separate the ideology of the temple from greaves' own shittiness (for example, based on the way he talks in interviews im pretty sure a lot of the anti-spiritualism sentiment comes from him). remember the pink mass I mentioned earlier? well, if you clicked that link you'd know that during the ceremony (which otherwise included two same-sex couples kissing over the grave which is fine and harmless obviously) greaves took out his penis and laid it on top of the gravestone???????? Pretty much every article and video i've seen mention this part has treated it like a funny haha moment but to me it comes off as......incredibly unnecessary and disrespectful overkill. So, yeah, I don't like him much, but once again I don't really fault anyone who decides to support the temple for activism reasons.