#odyssey of possibilities
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i love that in the book poseidons sole motivation for hunting ody for A FULL DECADE is just because of his son polyphemus,, like,,, hes not even trying to teach him a lesson like in the muscial,,, just a very passionate dad!!!
also close-up under the cut cause the face rendering kind of slays
#polyphemus#poseidon#epic poseidon#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#epic the musical#the odyssey#greek mythology#homeric epics#epic the cyclops saga#epic the ocean saga#artists on tumblr#fanart#also the fact that odysseus genious idea to get away from the cyclops#in the book#is just to hide under the sheep??#im not even sure thats physically possible i had to make it a VERY big sheep#own post
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Thinking rambly Thoughts about Athena and her genderfuckery and her relationships with Odysseus and Penelope.
Anyway I think it’d be neat if Athena functioned as both Odysseus’ wife and Penelope’s husband in each others absence (and also as a father to Telemachus). Not even necessarily in a romantic way, just a weirdly intimate but unknowable ThingTM they have going on with Athena
TFW your in a triad and one member is a virgin goddess whose definitely playing with you and your family’s lives like Barbie dolls
#just rambles that came to me on the verge of sleep last night#Athena is the third member of Odysseus and Penelope’s relationship but in the Weirdest way possible#Athena thoughts all day every day this week#the odyssey#Odysseus#Penelope#athena#tagamemnon#epic cycle
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Sometimes I think about Old Man Laertes learning that Odysseus DID get to see his mother one last time.
#maybe he was happy to hear his beloved wife got to see their son alive again too. Maybe he asked Odysseus questions about her too#“She always did say that joke.” possibly?#idk#laertes#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#tagamemnon#odyssey#the odyssey#greek mythology#anticlea#epic the musical
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This really was the moment when we knew Kassandra was the best girl around tho
#Kassandra is introduced and is looking all wistful and majestic#then someone yells at her and calls her a shit face and she gets punched in the nose#in the most cartoonish way possible that makes it clear she is in fact a shit face#and then we get to know her noble background and tragic backstory#and then she’s stealing a man’s prosthetic eye and shoving it up a goats ass#the most compelling character in all of literature#Kassandra#assassin’s creed odyssey
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Why did he think that was a good idea to say
#no because like what was going through eurylochus' head when he decided this#''hm my captain is quiet today which is uncharacteristic of him. we are also going through a dark mysterious possibly dangerous cave.#This is Definitely the best time for me to confess that I betrayed him and went against his direct orders.''#like oh my gOD EURYLOCHUS you have horrible timing#could he have NOT waited for them to finish going through the lair of scylla before telling odysseus that#a genuine wonder how the crew has lasted so long if it werent for odysseus#like. the first decision the crew made after committing a mutiny led them to their DOOM. after being warned by Ody that it was a bad idea.#Odysseus really is the only reasons the 600 men had survived as long as they did during the trojan war#odysseus#the odyssey#eurylochus#eurylocus epic#odysseus epic#epic the musical#the fire burns#the fire crackles with joy
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Odysseus Headcanon: Odysseus never does spar with Telemachus to teach him.
Odysseus spent 10 years at harsh warfare and another 10 in life and death situations. Whenever he is placed into battle he loses control (see all his experience from Ismarus till the uprising of the nobles in Ithaca. Even in Troy he and Ajax were wrestling and both went for the kill needing to be separated). He knows he can never take fights lightly and he knows he cannot control it. Maybe one day tries and pushes Telemachus too hard. Maybe even nicks him with his sword. Maybe he needs Penelope to remind him.
Either way Odysseus would avoid sparring with anyone ever again after he returns from his redemption trip and he never spars with his son
#greek mythology#odysseus#tagamemnon#the odyssey#odyssey#homeric poems#homer odyssey#odysseus and penelope#odysseus headcanon#random thoughts#odysseus and telemachus#telemachus#trauma#ptsd#complex ptsd#adrenaline junkie#odysseus was severely traumatized#odysseus wouldn't be able to fight non-seriously ever again#possibly the best substitute he would have would be hunting#homeric epics#homer#homer's odysseus#homer's odyssey#odyssey headcanon#post odyssey#textpost
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EPIC THE MUSICAL IS SO SO GOOD
I canNOT get it out of my head so I'm going to make a pole about awesome lines muahahaha
WHOOPS I'm out of options 😭 anyways those were just some lines that stuck out to me off the top of my head, tell me if you have any suggestions in the comments!
#epic#epic the musical#jorge rivera herrans#epic musical#polites#eurylochus#odysseus#ody#the odyssey#musicals#musical theatre#(going overboard on the tags to try to get as many people as possible to see it lol)#polls#tumblr polls#athena#odyssey#calypso#ares#telemachus#<<NOOO I DIDNT GET ANY TELEMACHUS LINES IN THERE#We'll be fine is criminally underrated btw#Epic the musical all the sagas#circe#greek mythology#penelope#posiden#no Zeus lines cuz I hate him#Plz don't smite me 🙏
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Shot by Carol, on one fateful Saturday morning
#the bumper sticker made me cringe so hard but ya'll can't tell me he doesn't have it smh#darryl is so stiff in photos.. you just know he has no idea what to do with his hands#also Carol originally wanted to take a pic of Grant but you know he really hates it... she couldn't convince him to come out of the car#not me spending hours on the Honda website staring at pictures of Honda Odyssey 2018 model from every possible angle#and one last thing - how tf did carol let darryl get away with buying a $40k 7 seat car when they're a family of 3?? Only Matt knows I gues#aaaand if you read all this already - can you spot the Charleston Chew? >:3#darryl wilson#grant wilson#even though it's mostly his shoes lol#my art#dndads#dungeons and daddies#dnddaddies#dndads s1
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Really happy with how she turned out! I decided to give her some naiad features, inspired by this post and it was really fun! I hc that she can breathe underwater (even though she doesn't have gills. Do naiads have gills?), although I am not sure if she can do it freely or for a limited amount of time 🤔
The fabric piece covering her chest was loosely inspired by 18th century neckerchiefs, because I wasn't sure how the Mycenaean open chest fashion would fly with the censorship here or on other platforms ¯\_(• ▽ •;)_/¯
#I can leave comments and reblog posts again#yay#the odyssey#tagamemnon#penelope#character design#my art tag#I hc that she took over Odysseus' duties while he was away and got to be a reigning queen for about 10-13 years#until the suitors took over. It's a pretty long rant and I can't fit it into tags#this is her design before that#her being a ruler wouldn't really have been possible by Homer's time because of how the ancient Greece treated women#but since the story was set in Mycenaean Greece... maybe? Just maybe she could have enough authority for the assembly to take her seriously#epic the musical#epic the musical fanart#greek mythology#maybe this hc would change as I learn more things about history#but for now it's here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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In the clerb (the epic fandom) we all fam (we're crying because Ithaca Saga is out on Christmas)
#this is so full circle#AUGHHHH JORGE WHEN I CATCH YOU JORGE#epic is such an important part of me even though i properly discovered it this year#its a rollercoaster of emotions in the best possible way and i can't thank jorge and his team enough—#— for creating such an amazing concept album for dare i say one of my favorite musicals... ever#IM SO EXCITED Y'ALL I'M GONNA SOB#epic the musical#epic: the musical#jorge rivera herrans#epic the ithaca saga#ithaca saga#the odyssey#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#penelope of ithaca#odypen#telemachus
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"How much longer must we suffer now? (Reconsider) How much longer must we push through doubt? (We can get home) How much longer must we go about (Eurylochus) Our lives like this when people die like this?"
(The quotes in the sketch and above are from the song "Mutiny" from EPIC: The Musical by Jorge Rivera-Herrans)
I heard Starscream had another friend in a different continuity, what if TFOne Starscream also had his own Genvo too, but he died during those 50 cycles when they were being hunted down. I like to headcanon TFOne Starscream used to be a scientist before but decided to join the High Guard when the war with the Quintessons got more serious. Imagine Starscream decided to join the High Guard first and his friend decided to follow him when he heard Star was enlisting, but only one of them makes it back alive.
I think about how hopeless and desperate the High Guard's situation was throughout the 50 cycles with no end in sight as energon stopped flowing probably going hungry, they were being hunted down by Quintessons/Sentinel, their strongest leaders/comrades in arms were killed in front of them, betrayed, and trying to survive on the surface's dangerous landscape. I think as time passed many gave up hope or resigned themselves that they would never see home again giving into despair after cycles of suffering. Starscream probably feels the same way and feels pretty hopeless about their situation too. But as the leader Starscream probably knows he does not get the luxury of expressing those doubts without sending everyone else spiraling so even if he feels hopelessness about their situation he has to pretend he is okay and put on a front that he knows what he is doing and that they will succeed in taking down Sentinel one day to get them to survive another day.
There's a line in one of my favorite book series (Animorphs) where one of the characters reflects that "A leader has to give people hope. Even when he doesn't have much himself" and I think Starscream knew this. But it is a very lonely way of living being leader in such a hopeless situation as others can at least potentially express doubts about things or commiserate with each other, but as leader you cannot do that without affecting those under your command. I think some part of him subconsciously adopts the mindset that to an extent, on an emotional level, to be a leader is to be alone. And every decision you make holds the burden of potentially getting your troops/friends killed, but someone has to make the hard decisions even if some decisions are ruthless as you weigh the lives of those you may consider friends to keep as many people alive.
I was inspired to sketch this when I was listening to the song lol, I linked it down below in case anyone wants to hear it :D
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#transformers#transformers one#tf one#starscream#tf one high guard#tf one starscream#tf one genvo#Youtube#transformers one spoilers#tf one spoilers#headcanon#i think the high guard should go through the odyssey levels of suffering during those 50 cycles#the high guard and their 50 cycles in exile on the run/hiding compel me so much cause there's so many possibilities#of what they could have gone through or many ways you could explore it in fanworks#my art#sketch#long post
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If you think about it, Home Alone (1990) technically has the same plot as the Odyssey, but from Telemachus’ point of view
#the mom in the polka player van explaining her story is Odysseus visiting the Phaeacians#odyssey#home alone#this is possibly the dumbest thought I’ve ever had but I’m standing by it#it’s the exact same vibe at least - right down to the invasion of the home and the threat of death by robbers#except Odysseus is both the mom and the old man neighbor at the end
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Do you think in Little Wolf, was Athena surprised when Telemachus fought so hard even though he didn't know how, or do you think she was surprised when he got beat so badly because he reminds her of his father so much?
#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#little wolf#athena#telemachus#the odyssey#when she says “ooo maybe i pushed out a bit to hard#was she so happy to be fighting alongside Ody again that she didnt realize it wasnt him until Tel got his ass beat#the possibility has me going feral
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Epic the Musical fans, I'm gripping you by the shoulders to tell you that Penelope has a sister who she is very very close with in the Odyssey who was named Iphitimene.
Not only a sister, but in each myth she is in, she has a lot of brothers. At least around 4 or 5.
The Potential for Eldest daughter Pen, Middle child Pen, and/or baby sister Pen is ENDLESS!!!
She is also half-naiad at the very least (in most myths) with her mother being a river nymph named Periboea. She can even be 3/4th naiad if you go with the myth of her father, Icarius, being the son of Bateia, another naiad.
#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#was she close with Helen and eventually Ctimene? Yes. BUT SHE ALSO HAS SIBLIGNSSSS#please don't make my darling lonely ;~; she has many loved ones despite the shit that goes down in her life.#penelope of ithaca#penelope#penelope odyssey#odyssey#penelope of sparta#Water Wife#epic the musical#the odyssey#like I know Jay hasn't delved into her character much yet. but like... pwease🥺#she has SO much in her myths to possibly play with!!! It's so much funnnnn#(also possible angst options for possible brothers she lost in the war👀 as they likely would've been fighting under Menelaus)
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Still thinking about how Ajax isn't even in the Odyssey yet Homer twice is like, remember that guy? Remember Ajax? Damn that dude was sexy. Okay moving on.
#ajax the greater#listen I know he's like briefly in it#shows up just to fuck off without saying anything#but of all the things that could have been said about my man#like everyone calls ajax stupid because in the Iliad he's often compared to animals#and I have my quibbles with that interpretation#but regardless it's not like he has a swift-footed Achilles thing going on#except in the Odyssey it's 'fine as hell Ajax'#although it's possible homer called him sexy in the Iliad but thanks to athens we will never know#and I will never forgive#tagamemnon#the odyssey#homer
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a rough sketch of an idea
Polites found odysseus in the sheep's field weapons and armor and body broken and bruised. It looked like he had been dropped from a great height. He felt his gut clench at the sight. It wasn't the first time something like this had happened. But it was the worst he had ever seen his friend.
Odysseus had been collecting more and more bruises over the past year, becoming more and more cagey about their source. About his training. "Proof of athena's favoritism" he called them with a grin "it'll all be worth it when I'm the best fighter around"
But polites couldn't help but worry. Pride and honors and achievements didn't matter if you didn't survive the training to get there. Polites desperately wished there was something more he could to do to help but even if he could convince odysseus to cease this insanity, how would even get out of it without offending the goddess?
"I take it training didn't go well, my friend?" Polites asked with a smile forcing his voice to keep its teasing edge. He extended a hand to help odysseus up off the ground.
"Shut up polites" odysseus grumbled as he threw a hand up to clumsily grasp at polites hand.
Despite the muscle odysseus was rapidly gaining polites could still haul him up easily. He'd thank the gods for his height but lately praying had left a sour taste in his mouth. As he dragged odysseus towards a well paid and secured doctor he eyed the broken spear, sword, and sheild. A glimmer of an idea started to take shape. It was likely odysseus would continue to break mortal equipment as he did battle with gods and his family had been pressuring him to choose a calling already....
"Eurylochus is coming from same tomorrow" polites chatted ideally, hoping to distract his closest friend from his pain. Odysseus groaned and banged his head against polites shoulder.
"Come now!" Polites chided through his laughter "you love the man!"
"Not when he's trying to bed my sister I dont" odysseus slurred somehow managing to drip annoyance through the concussion and other pains.
(@www-dot-why-are-you-here-dot-com tagged as promise! It's more on the angsty side of my headcanons so let me know if you only want to be tagged in the fluffy ones)
#The odyssey#Epic the musical#Odysseus#Polites#eurylochus#Rough drafts#ficlet#The start of how blacksmith!polites#The aftermath of athenas training#We talk a lot about how training with a goddess of war from childhood changed odysseus a lot#But not so much about how it would change a person to watch their friend go through those trails#And for polites who just wants to help and misses the days when they were more carefree it grates#Pre-canon#Odysseus and athenas wacky training adventures#Yes Athena did drop odysseus from a great height after fighting him for hours#She was treating odysseus to flying and he got way too sassy with her#Yes she did stand over his body to make sure he wasn't dying and to tell him “guess we need to work on your landings”#In the most menacing way possible#Odysseus internally lady Athena can you concuss me harder please I don't want to witness eury's bad flirting with my sister goddess please
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