#ody doesnt rlly have that imo?

[gece-misin-nesin]

lowkey think that if jorge really wanted to sell us on the "odysseus is a monster thing" he should have had odysseus continue to stab poseidon even after he begged. bc like. Looking at odysseus now? he's less a monster and more like a morally grey protagonist. All of his questionable actions have pretty good explanations behind them. if you want to tell me he's a MONSTER, you need him to do something really fucking vile. without good justification. killing the baby? (also. he fought in a war. i reckon plenty of babies died indirectly as a result of his actions somehow) zeus literally told him he and his family would die otherwise. blinding the cyclops? pretty self-explanatory. sacrificing the men to scylla? bad, but has an understandable reason behind it and you can theoretically justify it. choosing the crew to die? saving his own life+you could argue they are the ones at fault for eating the cows anyway. torturing poseidon? there's literally no other way poseidon would let him go at that point AND he immediately stops after he begs.

point is, if you're going to tell me a character is a monster then at least make them do something that cannot be defended. something that CANNOT be justified at all. continuing to stab poseidon after being begged would have done that. but who knows, maybe the suitors being killed will be shown as something like that? still unlikely though considering they plot to kill telemachus and rape penelope.

[starredfishing]

epic the musical review: ocean saga

storm:

the main tune of this song fucks the STO O OO RM otherwise i dont remember anything else of the song bless klsjdfsfj

i do like the commitment to how every 'captain' from the show is sung exactly the same its CAPtain the same two notes

eurylochus's 'what.' followed immediately by STOOOOORM is so funny sldkfjdsfj my guy doesnt get paid enough

luck runs out:

i rlly like the chorus of this song its rlly memorable and eurylochus has a nice smooth voice - the way the syllables hit just scratch my brain right

the rely on wit/people die on it is very hamilton and i say that as suuuch a compliment. i rlly do like that line i wish odysseus had listened to it

'youre like the brother i could never do without' isnt he married to odysseus' sister. so theyre brothers in law

pulling him aside to scold him for voicing reasonable doubts is kinda 😭 like cmon ody hes just worried!!!

keep your friends close:

SUCH a fun song love the vibe i wanna shimmy my shoulders and shit

'go the distance' SICK hercules reference--

'thats what im serving' yea 🏳️‍🌈💅✨

'its treasure :3' FUCKASS CLOUDS DLKFJDFJ

'see how this bag is closed that's how its supposed to be' nice wordplay

'everything's changed since polites' :((

NINE DAYS??? AWAKE FOR NINE DAYS??? he is so fucking insane

i kinda wished he had just normal screamed no instead of sang it but go off jorge

ruthlessness:

THIS SONG FUCKING SOLOS ITS SOOOO GOOD poseidon your voice is beautifullll

i rlly like how the intro to this song is like a boss fight sldkjffj

i rlly rlly fuck w the prechorus IM LEFT WITHOUT A CHOICE AND WITHOUT A DOUBT

'ruthlessness is mercy upon ourselves' is such a clunky line but i see the vision

but nooo 😒 stop hes so funny dslkfjsdf

a ship going down w 'captain' on every beat is sooo clean

the gentle way just a man plays in the bg 😈 yesssss when does a man become a monsterrrr

'i am your darkest moment, the monster [...]' yeah for when he. stabs him

ALL I GOTTA DO IS OPEN THIS BAG is so jarring but LKJFSJDFJ

idk why he finished it w 'remember me' coulda just left it but foreshadowing ig

edit: another thing i noticed is the underlying bit of music that kinda sounds like every water level from the seth everman videos lol

overall:

this saga fucks!!! i will say tho that all the songs in epic [except just a man imo] have this thing where all the lines between the choruses are like. they have no tune as they're singing the lines bc its more important to know what theyre saying but it just feels like underscoring a monologue so its a lil clunky. but like the memorability of the choruses keep this saga afloat