#obviously this is referring to the inhabitants of the island lesbos
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y'all need to read Herodotus, there's so much talk of lesbians and lesbian ships, it's truly magnificent
#obviously this is referring to the inhabitants of the island lesbos#but it's still so funny to read#history#ancient greece#herodotus
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Itâs interesting how there are some conceptual similarities between the German meaning of âquerâ, the English word âqueerâ, and the English word âbentâ:
But anyway, I sure love the irony of people making arguments citing etymology, i.e., the record of how words change over time, in order to deny the fact that words change over time. What started as a slur has been claimed by the queer community to such an extent that the non-pejorative sense is dominant in general settings like university departments, resource centres, andâyesâeven corporate rainbow-washing posts.
Theyâre not calling us fags. A big hint for how to tell is remembering that the word âfagâ and âqueerâ are different and do not have a 1:1 of meaning or usage. A helpful hint if you get those confused is to notice how theyâre spelled differently, because theyâre different words.
Etymology is fun facts to know and tell. Historical origins and usage donât tell you what a word âactuallyâ means like some big bullshit dramatic reveal in a crap Discovery Channel history documentary about ancient aliens really having built the pyramids. @sapphicconservative please note that âlesbianâ should refer only to inhabitants of the island of Lesbos. Additionally, obviously bisexual exclusively means âattraction to only ever two gendersâ, and frankly we shouldnât use that or âhomosexualâ because itâs nonsense to mix Greek and Latin like that. In conclusion, words donât go through meaning shifts, languages in no way change over time, and wÄ eall sprecen Ald Ănglisc.
By the way, people with negative or traumatic experiences of these words used as slurs do not ever have to want to be called them, as individuals. Thatâs not in question, but thatâs also not the conversation weâre having. âQueerâ is a hard-earned and widely embraced endonym now, and its inclusive power as an umbrella term is probably why exclusionists and TERFs started this whole insidious âq-slurâ discourse in the first place.
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Well, thereâs no way around it: This has got to be one of the queerest places on the internet.
How queer, you ask? Apparently, folks on Tumblr are 193% more likely to identify as part of the LGBTQIA+ community than on any other social media platform. Thatâs you! Well, itâs most of you. Itâs a helluva lot of you.
Letâs talk about youâthe LGBTQIA+ community on Tumblr. You, who uplift each other, back each other up, uphold each otherâs truths. You make Tumblr the supportive space it is.
So hey, whether youâre out and proud or just starting to figure things out, queer Tumblr has got your backâand it touches every fandom and ship and interest you can imagine...we have (finally canonical) declarations of love! Ratty allies! Gay ACNH villagers! Pronoun-positive worms on strings! And frogs! So many frogs. No matter what, youâll find support and acceptance and, if you need it, a little bit of guidance.
This is who you are. Not just in June, but every day of every year. We wouldnât have it any other way.
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#lgbtqia#etymology#I canât believe theyâre really making the q-slur argument based off of etymology now#is nothing sacred
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lethbian:
i know tumblr is leaking bc i met a girl whoâs a âbisexual lesbianâ and she was like âam i less of a lesbian for wanting to have sex with men?â and i was likeâŠ.not to be mean but literally yes
wibbly-wobbly-skawney:
Wtf is a âbisexual lesbianâ??????
helshades:
Obviously someone who was born on the isle of Lesbos and happens to be bisexual. Which is a rather amusing thing, innit? Evidently, no sexual orientation may change your birthplace.
exclusionaryhomosexual:
fun fact, people born on Lesvos donât call themselves lesbians. but continue to crack jokes about the lesbian erasure bi women strive to accomplish on a massive scale.
helshades:
By Jove, woman!
Firstly, âLesbianâ happens to be a correct demonym for the inhabitants of Lesbos. I admit to having no idea as to when it got into the English language to refer to a homosexual woman, but I can tell you it happened for French in 1867; a century before that, it was used in this sense as an adjective. Early 20th century famous novelist AndrĂ© Gide was the first, I believe, to use lesbianisme to refer to female homosexuality.
Then. The joke above that had you all huffing and puffing utilises a style of humour which is known as irony, usually meaning something is said as if it were a perfectly straight statement, while other possible layers of sense may be understood, only implicitly. Here, the irony was precisely that everybody not too soft in the head would have known what the O.P. was speaking about, which definitely didnât involve actual denizens of ÎÎÏÎČÎżÏ.
Yes, it was a joke. Of course it was a joke. Sweet Beelzebub on a unicycle, we all have a great need to emphasise just how stupid gender activists and the folk following them thoughtlessly can be, how unbelievably ludicrous and pretty nonsensical most, if not all, of the time.
FINALLY. âThe lesbian erasure bi women strive to accomplish on a massive scale.â Alright, ducky, letâs have a wee tĂȘte-Ă -tĂȘte on this touchy subject. What blooming sort of grand & nefarious anti-gay scheme have we bisexual women taken part in this week, exactly? A massive scale, eh? Lemme guess: our sorry lot of disgustingly fake feminists, en route to secretly snatch the road to happiness from lesbians to hand it to our partners in crime the heteros? Sure.
Meanwhile, in the real world, last time I checked, patriarchy was happening to us and a bunch of morons persuaded that âgayâ is the new emo and âgayâ the new cool got into thinking that âbisexualâ means âslutâ or just plain doesnât exist. Lesbian erasure? Yeah, and did you get the impression that bisexuals are being heralded as the One True Orientation, exactly?
What ifâdo humour me for a tickâwhat if you didnât blame bi girls for faults which we all know are first and foremost gender activistsâ, transactivistsâ and other crazy conservativesâ? What if feminism didnât consist in snapping at your own instead of focusing on the actual roots of common problems? Go dive in a vat of sneezing powder if thatâs the best you can do!
exclusionaryhomosexual:
i love having nongreeks explain irony and my language to me. so full of yourself and yet so unfunny and ignorant. people from the island and greeks in general donât call it Lesbos anymore (there you learned a new thing today), but Lesvos or Mytilene and they donât call themselves âlesbiansâ. but sure believe that you know better than greeks what is the âcorrectâ way.
keep denying that manloving privilege and that lesbophobic oppression the bi community calls its âactivismâ. keep pretending that bis arenât in the forefront of the genderist brigade alongside heteros and that they donât try to push their bi supremacy ideas there. and keep joking from that position of privilege instead of setting homophobic bi women straight.
Oh, do get off your high ጔÏÏÎżÏ or Iâll start speaking French on you. We are writing in the English language. The joke was written in English, where Lesbian is actually the only correct demonym for the inhabitants of Lesbos. Which is still called and spelled Lesbos in English at this hour. Would you call Frenchpeople Français and Françaises in English? No, you wouldnât, because even if you knew the idiom you would be writing in bleeping English. Or do you know even less English than I know Greek...? I admit that mine is a couple millennia late, at least. Speaking of which, itâs lesbians in the first place because of Sappho, which I know you know, and even though she lived in Mytilene, the islandâs name was transcribed as Lesbos in most Indo-European languages which cared to write about it, starting with Latin, from which English descends (mostly through French, yes) in part, and Lesbos it stayed in such languages, for obvious reasons related to a total lack of an accurate transcription of Ancient Greek ÎČ. Same thing happened with Phi and Chi, in fact, the former assimilating to the Latin F and the latter to K. So, yes, the Lesbos/Lesvos situation may become a Pekin/Beijing thing and Iâm all for Lesvos to win eventually, given the contemporary pronunciation, but in the meantime...
P.S.: what is a âbi communityâ? What activism, where? Is there a membership test Iâve failed and no one thought to tell me about the secret evil conspiracy for erasing proper feminists from existence? Do lesbian activists, who I suppose exist as well, albeit on the side of the angels, have special lamps to detect traces of sperm on putative bisexual women or....?
The fruitcake above has, predictably enough, blocked me, leaving me riddled with so many questions, and understandably bereft.â This was the first time Iâve ever come across the concept of Bi Supremacy and I was very impressed. I never knew we were out and about to conquer the world! The last time I checked, bisexual slander concerned our supposed superabundant sex life. Promiscuous and diabolic?! Foxy!
In all seriousness, though. Idiotic, bigoted paranoia is probably not how you fight back against a system that actually want you pitted against one another. But what can make about hateful people whose main intellectual activity consists in inventing straw(wo)men to shake a fork at?
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