#nullification surgery

[local-null-nb]

RB for larger sample size and check out my blog if you want to learn more about Nullification surgery!

[pig-lota]

Hello all you not binary folks out there - I have a message for you and that message is to considered nullification surgery!!!

I just got it and can't recommend it enough!!! It leaves you smooth downstairs, and is much safer and has an easier recovery than vaginoplasty! (It's also available for AFABs but I know less about that)

I'm sitting in the hospital right now post-op, it was great and just think more people should know about it!

If you have any questions feel free to DM me

Anyone who sees this please RB, more people should know this is an option!!!

[local-null-nb]

As someone with no genitals, can confirm I definitely have sexual desires and am sexy according to at least one other person. (The lack of genitals is only a month old, but both points have only increased post surgery)

I have to disagree with this take. Yes, yes, ace rights and all. I am aspec myself. But it shouldn't be a huge leap in logic to understand that lacking genitals says nothing about one's sexuality, nor about one's ability to be sexy. I do not expect Margot Robbie to even have considered that real people might not possess genitals, but I know that queer people online certainly have done so. Be you Margot Robbie or Tumblr genderthing, let me remind you: You can feel sexual desire without having genitals.

You can be sexy without having genitals.

And yes, if you get a little creative, you can even have sex without having genitals.

[skeletalheartattack]

I was scrolling through some of your posts and I saw the one about gender nullification and it made me feel so much better to know that not only was it achievable but that someone else wished for it too.

anon, seeing this ask in my inbox really put some lightness in my heart honestly. for a lot of my life, i had always felt rather uncomfortable with that aspect of my body - so much so that i can't really look at myself in the mirror before/after showering for example - and having learned about it a few years ago was honestly so validating, knowing that there is a form of bottom surgery to be able to achieve a neutral look, that would finally allow me to feel comfortable in my own body. thank you for your ask anon. may we both some day see our true selves in the mirror.

[nullodyke]

when u say u got bottom surgery, do u mean u got nullification done? just curious, i never see anyone online that has it :)

Yes I am approximately 5 months post-nullification and I am quite happy with the results. I am also more than comfortable answering really invasive questions about my lack of external genitalia. Just don’t ask me how I pee.

[gaygothfluid]

Me at six (6) thinking about what it would be like if I was a guy then deciding boys were disgusting but also girls were boreing and wishing that there was an in between

Me now...

[themindelectricdemo4]

Holy FUCK r/honesttransgender is so transphobic

[local-null-nb]

Less than 4 weeks after getting nullification surgery, and my brain no longer can even conceive of having a penis anymore, just my null as I call it! It's really wonderful and I feel like it's really sunk in that I'm smooth now!!!

(weed definitely helped, as last night I got high and just felt like it made me really embodied in a way that locked it in and got my subconscious to accept my new form)

[pig-lota]

Protip for anyone considering nullification surgery: it's so freaking swag and I highly recommend it, but if you don't really want or care about having sensitive nerves in the front, you might not want to get them kept just to appease your mom who's being super weird about wanting to make sure you'll be able to still have sexual pleasure in the future.

Having sensitive nerves right in the operated area definitely makes the recovery more painful, and them getting stimulated can result in blood flow to the area which makes swelling worse.

IDK I might be glad in the long term but one week out from the surgery and it's not ideal.

(also I'm open to answering any questions about my experience getting nullification surgery for anyone curious)

[decompose1]

ok real quick because i'm going through (undisclosed) bottom surgery and currently have to do so much research and emails about it. so i did some more and slapped this together because i'm tired of the current perception of bottom surgeries!! it's all fearmongering!

common misconceptions about bottom surgery:

The options are "Limited"/if you get bottom surgery, you have to remove/lose your current genitals

WRONG! You can have vaginoplasty with phallus preservation, phalloplasty with vaginal preservation, or metoidioplasty with vaginal preservation. There are a lot of different options about graft locations and types of surgery for any of these surgeries. You can do research to find out your options. You will talk to your surgeon A LOT beforehand and discuss the best option for you. You have more options than you think.

You won't be able to orgasm/you won't feel sensation in your neogenitalia

WRONG! It is extremely rare for trans people who have undergone bottom surgery to be incapable of orgasm, regardless of the options you choose. Most trans people who have had vaginoplasty or phalloplasty are perfectly capable of feeling pleasure when those parts are touched. Anyone who tells you you will be unable to have a fulfilling sex life after surgery is spreading fearmongering myths*.

*I see some people spreading that a neophallus will not have sensation. This is misleading. Whether or not sexual nerves connect in the rest of the phallus is highly variable between patients (and some things like sexual therapies are thought to help), however, the nerves present in the buried clitoral tissue are still there and can still be stimulated in the base of the penis.

A vaginoplasty is just an open wound you're keeping open/dilation isn't natural!

WRONG! (And nobody calls vaginas wounds anymore!). Dilation is a very normal thing. Dilators were originally invented for cis women experiencing pain during sex, especially after other medical procedures. So it's pretty normal to have to use them. It's just a way to keep things healthy and pain-free, and those who have vaginoplasties only have to use them because the muscles there aren't trained the same way. That's all! There's nothing weird about it.

Phalloplasties just look like flesh tubes, there's no good options!

WRONG! Plastic surgery is a wonderful thing, and there are absolutely some very passing-looking phalloplasties out there, especially with the use of medical tattooing! Most of the pictures shared online to mock them are of stage one, before glansplasty, which is when the head is created. Phalloplasty is a multiple-stage surgery, it is not fair to judge them based on seeing an incomplete one. (Also, it's really rude to judge someone else's penis! You should already know that.)

Bottom surgery is only for binary trans people! Nonbinary people can't get it/there are no options for me!

WRONG! While it's completely and fully up to you what IS "for you", and perhaps bottom surgery just isn't it, it's untrue that nonbinary people can't have it, or lack options! There are options to have both genitals (any surgery w/ preservation). There are options to have none at all (nullification). There are options and modifications you can ask for that may be more comfortable for you, such as smaller penis size or a vagina with no depth. There ARE options, and while it can be extra difficult to find therapists and surgeons who work with nonbinary people (i'm dealing with this right now!), know that they ABSOLUTELY DO exist, and you are covered by WPATH guidelines.

anyways!!!! that's all. i see so much misinfo about bottom surgery it's unreal so here's my little info post.

[dysphoric-culture-is]

Hey so with the barbie movie coming out mod is once again seeing comments like “I’m nonbinary and wish I could just have flat genitalia like a doll, it would take away my dysphoria”. Mod got a dysphoric culture ask about it like 2 years ago actually and now there are more so:

This is possible.

If your transition goal is to have a complete removal of all your internal and external genitalia, there is a real surgery that people get to do that. It’s called genital nullification.

It’s also called nullectomy or nullo.

It’s not a very new or super complicated surgery. Everything is taken out/taken off and you’re left with just a hole for your urethra (where you urinate out of). The urethra may be moved as part of surgery. If you research the procedure you’ll also probably hear them talk about urethral shortening, because nullification is mostly done on cis men/transfems/nonbinary patients who require a penectomy as part of the surgery.

Now don’t get this for an aesthetic or because you like how dolls look. It takes 6-8 weeks of recovery and is as serious a decision as any other bottom surgery. More info is here and here. This website has some info and pictures (graphic warning) of nullification along with phallus-preserving vaginoplasty, another nonbinary surgery.

Hopefully this helps someone!

[drdemonprince]

Hi Dr Price! I've had a gender nullification surgery, if you were interested in "having absolutely nothing going on down there" I'd be happy to tell you about it :) I appreciate you <3

I'd love to hear!

[transgenderpolls]

*theoretically fixable meaning that, in the future, this likely won't be a problem- i.e. surgeries becoming safer, learning new techniques that give better results, etc.

also OP didn't mention anything about other surgeries like nullification/vaginectomy, but I (blogrunner) assume that whether you'd want anything other than meto or phallo is just irrelevant to the poll.

[local-null-nb]

If you're getting nullification surgery and think you don't want to keep sensitive nerves there - don't let yourself be pressured into it! It's my one regret with my surgery (other than not getting it done sooner)

I never liked having sensitive sensation there, and I was pretty confident that would remain the case, but my mom for some reason decided it was incredibly important for me to keep the nerves. I have no idea why she would be concerned about that at all, but with how insistent she was being I decided the easiest way to get out of the incredibly uncomfortable situation was to just agree.

I regret that decision, and I urge anyone seeing this to make surgical decisions based on what you want, not based on what your parents or anyone wants or what they think your future partners will want.

[pig-lota]

In less than 4 waking hours (about 13 hours total) I will no longer have genitals!!!! Fear me!!!!!

[drjae69]

THE INTAKE

Says here you where sent to me because your were disloyal and cheating to your wife and masturbated much too often and never showed her the proper attention. Your an Acute case I got so Ill be blunt about this Im gonna enjoy breaking you . Not too often they send me ones this acute I’ll enjoy this immensely. So in my Center we break worthless excuses we call “men” and once I’m finished you’ll leave her as nothing more than a pathetic slave . Before that you’ll do as I say and obey me and the staff up to the letter. First we’ll de-clothe you as you spend your stay nude here . Then we’ll shave and wax you clean so you don’t get infections plus slaves don’t get to have hair here anyway . Next comes some surgery a bilateral orchiectomy and penectomy is in order or your castration and total nullification as we can’t have you enjoying your stay here and slaves don’t get to have their testicles and their penis here in what world would we. Next comes the fun part for your stay here which is indeterminate until I decide otherwise will be spent on your knees or all fours which ever I decide and be subjected to all matter of physical and mental domination until you prove unequivocally broken in my eyes. From day in and out you’ll be feed with a bowl on the floor and restrained when sleeping awaken early and dominated until proven stratified . Then and only then you’ll be reunited with your wife but not as equals, no but as mistress and slave. You got that ? Now on your knees and dis rob slave . Your treatment has only begun.