#nullification surgery

[pig-lota]

Hello all you not binary folks out there - I have a message for you and that message is to considered nullification surgery!!!

I just got it and can't recommend it enough!!! It leaves you smooth downstairs, and is much safer and has an easier recovery than vaginoplasty! (It's also available for AFABs but I know less about that)

I'm sitting in the hospital right now post-op, it was great and just think more people should know about it!

If you have any questions feel free to DM me

Anyone who sees this please RB, more people should know this is an option!!!

[local-null-nb]

I transed my sex!!! Got nullification surgery and am now living my best life!!!! No genitals no problems.

hey honest question, did anybody have GOOD stuff happen to them in 2024? cause it was really bad for me and for most people i know, so it would be nice to hear about anything that's been going WELL for any of you. even if it's small stuff. just to know there's light out there.

[skeletalheartattack]

I was scrolling through some of your posts and I saw the one about gender nullification and it made me feel so much better to know that not only was it achievable but that someone else wished for it too.

anon, seeing this ask in my inbox really put some lightness in my heart honestly. for a lot of my life, i had always felt rather uncomfortable with that aspect of my body - so much so that i can't really look at myself in the mirror before/after showering for example - and having learned about it a few years ago was honestly so validating, knowing that there is a form of bottom surgery to be able to achieve a neutral look, that would finally allow me to feel comfortable in my own body. thank you for your ask anon. may we both some day see our true selves in the mirror.

[nullodyke]

when u say u got bottom surgery, do u mean u got nullification done? just curious, i never see anyone online that has it :)

Yes I am approximately 5 months post-nullification and I am quite happy with the results. I am also more than comfortable answering really invasive questions about my lack of external genitalia. Just don’t ask me how I pee.

[local-null-nb]

It's truly crazy like you'll be like "nah my gender dysphoria and depression have done overlap but are mostly separate" and then get surgery and *poof* depression down to <10% (results may vary)

[gaygothfluid]

Me at six (6) thinking about what it would be like if I was a guy then deciding boys were disgusting but also girls were boreing and wishing that there was an in between

Me now...

[local-null-nb]

Hey peeps! I'm Zero / Null / ∅ or anything in that realm! I'm 23 years old, and roughly half a year ago I got Nullification surgery and it was super awesome!!!

This blog is specifically about my experience with Nullification surgery and general information regarding it!

Feel free to send me asks or DMs, anons accepted! Giving information even marginally related to Nullification surgery is what I made this blog for! Happy to answer any person question short of "what's your social security number"

Basics of Nullification surgery:

It's an elective bottom surgery, most common for nonbinary peeps (but anyone can get it!)

It results in a smooth genital area, with just a small hole for urinating

You can choose to either remove the sensitive nerves in the area or keep them under your skin

It has an easier recovery than more common bottom surgeries

Do you want further information? Questions about any of these points? Feel free to send me an ask or a DM!

I'm trying to get the word out so feel free to reblog!

[local-null-nb]

As someone with no genitals, can confirm I definitely have sexual desires and am sexy according to at least one other person. (The lack of genitals is only a month old, but both points have only increased post surgery)

I have to disagree with this take. Yes, yes, ace rights and all. I am aspec myself. But it shouldn't be a huge leap in logic to understand that lacking genitals says nothing about one's sexuality, nor about one's ability to be sexy. I do not expect Margot Robbie to even have considered that real people might not possess genitals, but I know that queer people online certainly have done so. Be you Margot Robbie or Tumblr genderthing, let me remind you: You can feel sexual desire without having genitals.

You can be sexy without having genitals.

And yes, if you get a little creative, you can even have sex without having genitals.

[pig-lota]

Protip for anyone considering nullification surgery: it's so freaking swag and I highly recommend it, but if you don't really want or care about having sensitive nerves in the front, you might not want to get them kept just to appease your mom who's being super weird about wanting to make sure you'll be able to still have sexual pleasure in the future.

Having sensitive nerves right in the operated area definitely makes the recovery more painful, and them getting stimulated can result in blood flow to the area which makes swelling worse.

IDK I might be glad in the long term but one week out from the surgery and it's not ideal.

(also I'm open to answering any questions about my experience getting nullification surgery for anyone curious)

[siltfern]

My zine in the lineage of Fucking Trans Women by Mira Bellwether, about my anatomy as a trans woman who's had nullification surgery. It started as a user manual for a partner but I believe it has value beyond that.

[themindelectricdemo4]

Holy FUCK r/honesttransgender is so transphobic

[sexhaver]

i know hating lawyers in general is a bad habit because some of them do good stuff. but sometimes it feels like 60% of the people coming out of law school underwent an experimental elective surgery to amputate their sense of justice because it kept getting in the way of their job. this seems to be more endemic to the UK (possibly as a side effect of the mandatory powdered wigs and preponderence of dumbass laws like "no knives ever for any reason" and "you need to pay for a license to watch TV") but you do occasionally see it in the US too when someone posts on r/legaladvice asking "hey my neighbor's kids keep breaking through the fence i built specifically to stop them and reach their arm through and harass my dog until he bites them" and someone who just passed their LSAT gleefully jumps in to tell the OP, with barely disguised contempt for their presumption of innocence, "actually this constitutes an attractive nuisance so it's your fault :)".

the fastest way to tell which camp a US lawyer falls into is to mention jury nullification around them and see how long it takes for them to make it really obvious they wish they practiced law in the UK where the prosecutor can tell the jury what verdicts they're allowed to return ahead of time and declare a retrial if they return anything else:

"if the judge feels that the law is being unfairly applied [...]" okay good for them. if the jury feels the law is being unjustly applied they can just go fuck themselves i guess lol

[local-null-nb]

RB for larger sample size and to spread the word!

Feel free to send me asks about nullification surgery! The short of it is no genitals.

[pig-lota]

About 26 hours post-op after nullification surgery, I got no epidural and my pain was never really over a 5 out of 10 other than when trying to sit up unassisted, at which point it hurt enough to make me wince but like totes manageable.

I walked around and up and down stairs earlier with like 3.5 out of 10 pain, totally manageable!

I am so stinking happy and feel so excited for the rest of my life!!!!!!

Having a catheter is super weird though, looking forward to not having it tomorrow.

Please RB! Nullification surgery is so under publicisized and more NB people should know that you can totally get no genitals with an easier recovery than typical bottom surgery!

[decompose1]

ok real quick because i'm going through (undisclosed) bottom surgery and currently have to do so much research and emails about it. so i did some more and slapped this together because i'm tired of the current perception of bottom surgeries!! it's all fearmongering!

common misconceptions about bottom surgery:

The options are "Limited"/if you get bottom surgery, you have to remove/lose your current genitals

WRONG! You can have vaginoplasty with phallus preservation, phalloplasty with vaginal preservation, or metoidioplasty with vaginal preservation. There are a lot of different options about graft locations and types of surgery for any of these surgeries. You can do research to find out your options. You will talk to your surgeon A LOT beforehand and discuss the best option for you. You have more options than you think.

You won't be able to orgasm/you won't feel sensation in your neogenitalia

WRONG! It is extremely rare for trans people who have undergone bottom surgery to be incapable of orgasm, regardless of the options you choose. Most trans people who have had vaginoplasty or phalloplasty are perfectly capable of feeling pleasure when those parts are touched. Anyone who tells you you will be unable to have a fulfilling sex life after surgery is spreading fearmongering myths*.

*I see some people spreading that a neophallus will not have sensation. This is misleading. Whether or not sexual nerves connect in the rest of the phallus is highly variable between patients (and some things like sexual therapies are thought to help), however, the nerves present in the buried clitoral tissue are still there and can still be stimulated in the base of the penis.

A vaginoplasty is just an open wound you're keeping open/dilation isn't natural!

WRONG! (And nobody calls vaginas wounds anymore!). Dilation is a very normal thing. Dilators were originally invented for cis women experiencing pain during sex, especially after other medical procedures. So it's pretty normal to have to use them. It's just a way to keep things healthy and pain-free, and those who have vaginoplasties only have to use them because the muscles there aren't trained the same way. That's all! There's nothing weird about it.

Phalloplasties just look like flesh tubes, there's no good options!

WRONG! Plastic surgery is a wonderful thing, and there are absolutely some very passing-looking phalloplasties out there, especially with the use of medical tattooing! Most of the pictures shared online to mock them are of stage one, before glansplasty, which is when the head is created. Phalloplasty is a multiple-stage surgery, it is not fair to judge them based on seeing an incomplete one. (Also, it's really rude to judge someone else's penis! You should already know that.)

Bottom surgery is only for binary trans people! Nonbinary people can't get it/there are no options for me!

WRONG! While it's completely and fully up to you what IS "for you", and perhaps bottom surgery just isn't it, it's untrue that nonbinary people can't have it, or lack options! There are options to have both genitals (any surgery w/ preservation). There are options to have none at all (nullification). There are options and modifications you can ask for that may be more comfortable for you, such as smaller penis size or a vagina with no depth. There ARE options, and while it can be extra difficult to find therapists and surgeons who work with nonbinary people (i'm dealing with this right now!), know that they ABSOLUTELY DO exist, and you are covered by WPATH guidelines.

anyways!!!! that's all. i see so much misinfo about bottom surgery it's unreal so here's my little info post.