#ns and was being biased. like. ??

[queenhallebe]

https://www.tumblr.com/yoonminschoice/762647549916151808/the-jikookers-choice-why-im-not-a-jikooker-and?source=share

Bro, I get defending your ship and "debating" about who you believe is the real couple but literally why is Jimin & Jk's bond always accused of being fake. I'm tired of this fanservice term. Can people not believe Jimin & Jk are with other members without thinking they play shit up for the camera? Is this really what the fandom has come to?

Unfortunately anon, it is what the fandom has come to. They do it for reasons only they know of. But the obvious thing here is- this is Jimin and Jungkook we're talking about. And that on it's own is enough for them to be crucified.

It has become a norm to hate on anyone who is a part of BTS, or related to BTS in any way...wether as a fan or a coworker, or a family member. So it doesn't help that Jikook, of the famous BTS, and the two biggest soloists of the group are close. Anyone would hate them, and sometimes it be your own people! As much as Armys like to say you aren't an Army if you hate any of the members, but it's true. Sometimes it be the same Armys hating on these two.

I don't know about you Anon, but from what I've seen since I joined the fandom, jikook's biggest haters aren't the kpoppies, or locals.. whatever people prefer to call them.

6.It's the hyung line stans. I think you would know why I'm even saying this. For some reason, the hyungs don't have as much support as the maknaes, and who gets affected at the end of the day? Jikook. Why? Coz they're Jimin, and Jungkook. “ That is how they keep themselves relevant, atleast my fave doesn't have to resolve to fan service to sell, unlike Pigmin and Payolakook 🤢”

5. VMINers... These two are the soulmates of BTS,as we know. And Jungkook, “ separated” them. He “ played” besties. And this came directly from a girl on TikTok, legit..💀

4. KTHs... These are the V lovers. As the most followed on IG, I observed that a lot of people expected him to be the biggest soloist. And also because of his acting career, his model like figure- I mean he's perfect in all ways. And it is a lot of the subgroup that never ever expected Jimin to thrive alone. As time went on, they threw tantrums that V was being mistreated by Armys, BTS and HYBE. And we all know who got the most hate; Jungkook. The one man who was supposed to take care of V,his boyfriend! Did you know, that 99.9 % of taekookers are V biases? Now we all know 😀 and he's blamed for not supporting Taehyung, for not rebelling against HYBE that treated V unfairly.

3. JJKs...these are well known Y/Ns of the fandom; Jungkook stans. Mostly where the homophobia comes from, within the fandom. If I'm not wrong, there's a famous Wattpad story called motorsport..? And the biggest JK story ...I forgot what they call it. Oh yeah, mutual help!! And this is not a hate for the authors in any way. The JJKs love this type of thing, they j*rk of to these things. They write “ Jungkook's the type of boyfriend to-” . And what happens when they see Jimin jumping on JK's back and inhaling him?? “Jungkook is straight, Jimin is just an attention seeker, he loves queerbaiting so bad!” And if you haven't yet noticed, most JJKs love Jungkook as a soloist. They don't give a sh*t about any other member. BTS would be nothing without Jungkook, and the JK validation goes crazy, so Jimin is using him. Jimin is fake, and whatever he does with JK is only to help himself. Poor Jungkook...

2. I don't even know what to call these ones. But there's a certain subgroup within this fandom that believes it is jungkook's duty to end all the delusions in this fandom. They're the gossipers of the fandom. The drama lovers. They think BTS is Hollywood in some way. If Jimin laughs with Jimin today, they run to shipper accounts to find out what their opinion is. Tomorrow he laughs with Jin, they go to the senseless shippers accounts to hear the tea. They get confused in between, feel bad for the poor members whom apparently jungkook's switches like his underwear. They want Jungkook to have a stand. Now they ask themselves, and irritate others on the media,“ why doesn't Jungkook hug V when he knew Jimin was watching?? Why didn't he laugh at Jhope's joke? Why doesn't he just be decisive and love one member?” All because they decided to entertain the shipping drama...Now Jungkook is the enemy

1. I know a lot of people would disagree with this one. I mean no one wants their faves to be treated unfairly, and there is a softness towards one's own bias. But this is a truth that people deny still, to this day. No one gets hate like Jungkook in this fandom. Not outside, WITHIN the fandom... Yes, the hyung line is overlooked, Jimin is hated by KTHs, and V too is hated. But when one person out there finally decides to talk about Jungkook and the hate he's getting, it's all “ it happens to other members too” . It's suddenly, “ he's famous, he should have known” when sasaengs invade his privacy. “ Jungkook shouldn't get anything this time, let's vote for RM, JK will be happy that his hyung won!”

I absolutely agree that all members get hate, and this isn't a competition where one member's pain should be compared with another. But you also know what's not fair? Refusing to acknowledge that Jungkook is at the centre of almost everything here, centre of the BTS ships, centre of his own group, and the maknae. People refuse to just take their eyes off their bias just once, and see that Jungkook is getting hate from all sides of the fandom. He's always the one to throw under the bus, the one who will be “okay” at the end of the day. And I know it's taking forever to say this one thing, but people have resentment towards Jungkook in this fandom, and some don't even know it. It only took one album for people to expose themselves. And no one hates Jungkook in this fandom like a PJM!

“Look at how Jimin invested in his album, nothing was handed to him. He even sang in Korean, and got to the top! He worked so hard. Why should he be no.2 ? Especially to that Jungkook whom the entire fandom got his back, and scooter also? His songs weren't even all that!”

And in case no one here knows, Jikookers are 99.9% PJMs 😹😹. People can say whatever they want, but PJMs be acting like they graduated from Harvard. Like they're the ones who birthed Jimin. Just like KTHs and VMINers, they think their biases are suffering while everyone's got jungkook's back. They don't see that they have Jungkook as a servant who has to kiss the ground Jimin walks on, kiss his feet, compliment him, just be whipped for him. They see themselves as Jimin Park's twin flame. I don't even have to say anything more...just go and see what people are saying about Are You Sure , and recently if you're a Twitter person, a Jikookers GC was exposed... Go and see what all they say about JK (and V)💀💀

Anyways anon, I don't know if you'll agree with me, but I just pointed out what I see everyday. Not everyone in these subgroups is like that, but majority here is overshadowing the good ones🤷. And these are the people who degrade the relationship that Jimin and Jungkook have. They cannot deny that they're an energy, a force, and they're tight like this 🤞. So what will they say?? Fan service. They cannot unsee the cuddles in AYS, so they'll say it's scripted. They cannot comprehend that Jungkook and Jimin are men, and they play rough, so they'll call Jungkook abusive for the same thing their fragile Mimi just did to Jungkook a few minutes ago.

I mean you can't say you don't know what happens when two famous people, with an insane chemistry, and a large following are also close, can you? 🤷 And coming to your real ask..( I'm so sorry for straying 😭)... There are people who genuinely believe Jikook are dating other members, and they'll do anything to prove it, even if it means calling jikook a script. And some of these Yoonmin shippers are taekookers who want to keep their accessory Jungkook. Some are PJMs who hate Jungkook coz KTHs hate Jimin.

[madara-fate]

i don't understand how u stay sane after all the ask you get everyday. people are always talking how bad ss is when in fact it was really well written in part one. sakura stopping sasuke from the curse, sasuke giving her advice and motivation to become better, how he made her realize that the world was not how she first thought. both of them shared a lot of moments when they were alone with orochimaru and sakura started to fall in love for real. they are very subtle, and even if there were difficult times, she didnt want to cut him off not because she was "obsessed", but because he was his friend too and family. people makes fun of her for not killing sasuke when is one of the mains reasons why i like sasusaku, she knows that he may have his reasons and that his heart is still pure. even if sasuke didnt ask her for that, in the end thats what he always wanted. he said he was a kid starving for love. besides, the two confessions are actually really beautiful, this is not sakura being pathetic, is her being vulnerable and brave, telling him she just wants him to be happy even if she don't understand his pain or has the power to stop him. people loves to pull the "she is manipulative" card when she never forced him to accept her feelings or touched him with weird intentions. people who try to use minato & kushina dynamic to make fun of ss needs to understand that minato is not sasuke. he is not going to show his love the way minato does. they are two different people. now, kishimoto sidelined sakura a lot and i wish he would have explored them more, but they are not forced. if sasuke fell in love with her is because he saw how great she was and thats it. i don't like gaiden or boruto that much if i'm being honest, i really dislike kishimoto decision with sasuke conclusion, but this is for the last war arc mainly. what i mean is, everything that NS/SK/SNS blame SS to be is pure bullshit. they are in fact the couple that makes the most sense and they are never going to make me hate unconditional love. kishimoto makes sasusaku feels real, and people who thinks the genjutsu is sasuke being disgusted with her just like he was when karin touched him needs to stop being biased because it was a pretty obvious paralel that kishimoto made on porpouse. both of them were holding that "thank you" even when they were falling apart. sasuke even remembered his family . no other couple has the same tension and moments like ss, and for a shonen, i love how sakura showers sasuke with love because he fucking deserves it. i mean she told him "if i could have take all of your pain onto myself to comfort you, i would have!" How thats not beautiful?! She adores him. anyways, i hope you never fall out of love of ss, they are really full of love and forgiveness. 😊

That was very well said 👏

And don't worry, I'll always be a SS fan ^_^

[dearweirdme]

Was sitting on a message I had typed up then I saw the other heterosexual JK warrior here sooooo... "Let's say Tae is not in the picture, what are the reasons that made you think JK could possibly be gay?"

This is a funny question to ask, because being gay only has one criteria: being attracted to someone of the same sex. That's it. So what they're asking is "Outside of his attraction to someone of the same sex, what makes you think he's gay?" Well…nothing outside of that would make him gay, would it. When people ask questions like this, it makes me think they want you to start listing stereotypes that he fits into. I see people say things like "He's the straightest person I've ever seen" and I think…where? That would require him to constantly be expressing attraction to the opposite sex, and he doesn't. At all. The only direct statement we've gotten from him recently regarding this, and I think it was a pretty bold one, is that he doesn't have a girlfriend and doesn't want one and then steered the conversation back to his work. Is it really that he has stereotypically "straight" characteristics? Have these people never seen a physically fit gay man? What does he do that they don't think a gay man would do? I'm genuinely curious because I don't get it. "jungkook literally took it upon himself to BE that fanfiction male macho tattooed pierced motorcycle rider heterosexual guy, so i doubt that most tkkrs/jkkrs ship him with vmin because "he's saur obviously queer!" And here we are. Exactly what I was talking about. 😂 Jungkook never took it on himself to BE anything but who he is. Has anon never seen a physically fit gay man? Has anon never seen a tattooed and pierced queer person? His tattoos and piercings are not a costume he's wearing to feed fantasies, it's what he genuinely wanted to do with his body and had been saying so since he was much younger and had people discouraging him from doing it. In a perfect demonstration of what I was saying earlier, they have listed these characteristics along with "heterosexual" like that all just fits together. Anon even uses the word "macho" which...doesn't fit Jungkook at all to me. It means appearing aggressively and "typically" masculine like being physically strong but not showing "weakness" like emotions...that ain't Jungkook. The one who cries the most easily of all of them? Jungkook is so soft, polite and kindhearted and has NEVER been the fanfiction tropes that y/ns want him to be. I'm a tattooed and pierced queer person myself. I'm also a Jungkook-biased Taekooker. Most of the Taekookers I've gotten close to (been here since 2016) are also queer. So I guess it really depends on who you're associating with. There's also a big difference between "shippers" and the kind of people who come to this blog. Shipping is wish-fulfillment. That's not why I'm a Taekooker. I didn't wish for something between them, I just saw it. Didn't even have to try. I had included in my original message a bit about the convo I've seen around Jungkook possibly being demi so it's interesting to see that popped up in other messages. It's possible he is, but I think what's more interesting about people seeing that and bringing it up now is that it goes against the narrative that he is blatantly and aggressively "straight". I agree with the anons, and you, that outside of what I see with Tae he doesn't really express attraction. Which is why I think the "straight" label comes from people stereotyping other things about him, with a little bit of wish-fulfillment. 😉

Hi anon!

This, very much all of this! I couldn’t have said it any better.

[not-goldy]

That's the narrative you'll been pushing, that tkkrs are Tae "leaning" and Jikookers are what? JM "leaning"?

No wonder in this whole shippers drama only JM and Tae get dragged and JK is always safe.

If you don't know several Jikookers and Taekookers have turned into Jk solos during chapter 2, then you must be living in your own shipper bubble or you're purposely pretending it didn't happen.

Not you running around yelling every one is turning into a Jungkook solo this is not the matrix😹😹😹😹

If you go into Jikook and Tae Kook shipper spaces to disrespect Jungkook and they massacre you it don't mean they are all JK solos.

I think it's about damn time both shippers stood behind Jungkook to defend him against your kind.

For the longest time yall were used to jikookers pandering to yall "throwing Jungkook under the bus" just for your likes and follows but honey not all of us care about likes and followers and what not so we will say things as is😹

Hmmmm

So then I suppose in my little bubble it feels rare cos I rarely encounter such persons myself.

I had a best friend who was a JK leaning Jkkers and she was constantly calling out JK while victimizing Jimin and glossing over his "sins" as it were, she had me feeling i constantly had to defend Jungkook as if I was the JK stan not her.

On the Tuktukker side all I know is most of them hate Jungkook because he doesn't follow their scripts and right now he's on the Tuktukkers wanted list for being in MS with Jimin and not Tae.

And frankly they hate Tae too so I don't know what their ship is about anymore 💀

So I guess I'm still a little bit confused 😩

Then again I'm not.

I started out as a JM biased stan but the more toxic stans have me defending Jungkook the more emotionally drawn I am to him. I don't think he deserves any of the heat he gets out here.

So I guess it's cause and effect. Yall are turning us into hardcore JK stans😹😹😹😹😹😹

The irony 🤣

But I don't think I'll ever be his pure solo like exclsusively either. I like Jin I like Namjoon I like Suga too sooooooooo cheating it is😩

Why have a man when you can have 7😌

But I do see myself supporting Jungkook for the long haul whether he is part of BTS or not. I may not be as enmeshed or overly obsessed with him and his life as I may be JM but I do think he has a promising future ahead and i genuinely wish him well.

Besides Jungkook IS THE MAKNAE. he is and will always be the Golden Maknae. I don't think you understand what that means or comprehend just how much clout and likeability that naturally comes with.

Jungkook has always been liked by the Fandom. Next to Tae, as you saw before he deleted his account he was the 2nd most followed BTS member and I have a feeling he would have surpassed V following his release of Golden had he not deleted the account.

So honestly I think you exaggerate and perhaps are just being dramatic and overly paranoid about the Fandom turning into Jungkook solos when we've always been a sucker for the Maknae.

It's a kpop thing. I think you're just now experiencing what being a Maknae means for an idol.

And another thing about Jungkook is, majority of his fans are not shippers at all. Most of them are "OT7"s at best or Y/ns and solos at worst and those that ship him ship tend to ship him more often with Tae than Jimin.

Actually I think majority of his shipper fans are split between shipping him with Tae, Jin and Namjoon rather than Jimin.

Most of his fans are straight and often times homophobic and those that a queer tend to gravitate towards other men who look like him when it comes to shipping him aka Tae Jin Namjoon rather than Jimin because of the stigma against fem gay men in the gay community.

So to me the unsettling question is when you say half the shipper community are now JK solos, does it mean most of them are now straight and homophobic - solo in what sense 😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩

[narhinafan]

People still ship luffynami, ichiruki, gokubulma, astalilly, ns and bsa when the author is clearly forms a sibling dynamics between them. Just because these pairing are always together in every moment because of in same team, field and in being mc's side cast doesn't mean that the pair is canon.

Mainly in Ichiruki and nasrusaku and now borusara got heavly biased attention from sp staff by adding non-exsistent moments between the pair just to mislead thinking people of ship possiblity in anime canon and fillers.

Sp getting more freedom as in boruto, they are even skipping manga canon stuff, panels and bsu scenes to edit out and present it towards bsa presepective. They literally started the ksu ship and all sumire love confession for boruto got cut.

Sp needs to kick out those biased useless staff even the official arts artist are sss and sakura creeps.

Yeah SP being bias really screwed the fandom and mislead a lot of fans leading to shipping wars.

I know I am hoping when they restart Boruto it is with a new and less bias team. The show would likely be more popular if they focused on BoruSumi and Sumire. The way they force BoruSara with bad plots that make no sense ruins a good deal of the anime.

While making up KawaSumi was just crossing a line and showed everyone they were not being professional at all.

[glenrocklibraryteens]

BOOK REVIEW: MURDER AT THE MARGIN

“Murder at the Margin” by Marshall Jevon Genre: Mystery, Fiction Number of Pages: 228 Pages Rating - 5/5 - Amazing Reviewed by: NS

Set on the Caribbean Island, Marshall Jevon’s Murder at The Margin typically has people pondering about the main question the story revolves around who murdered the three characters that were once prominent appearances at the start of the book. Using economics, economist Henry Spearman deduces his reasonings solely on an economic basis. Throughout the story, more characters are introduced and play a crucial role in solving this case. Some characters help Spearman, and some characters make it harder for Spearman to find the murderer. Murder at The Margin typically uses economic language on almost every page, serving as an application of economics for people who know absolutely nothing about it. 

Overall, I enjoyed this book. It was required of me to read this book for my AP Macroeconomics class, and I enjoyed every second of it. This book helped me apply some commonly used basic economics concepts such as: “Opportunity Cost”, “Trade-off”, and “Marginal Utility”. Some of these concepts take an ample amount of time to learn and understand, but Murder at The Margin is a book that all students should read if they are looking to take a college or AP Economics course. I loved the application of concepts that Jevons related to the real world, and I loved the approach used to make this story feel surreal. Ultimately, I give this book 5/5 stars, especially because it helped me understand the basics of economics best.

Playlist for Murder at the Margin:

“Symphony No 9” by Antonin Dvorak - The introduction to this piece is quite suspenseful just like the middle of the book. The song keeps going and it is very grand, just like everyone’s reaction to the murders.

“The Pink Panther Theme” by Henry Mancini - The classic song for a mystery, I could see this theme being used in a story like this, especially to the likes of Henry Spearman. His logic of economics in every possible scenario, even if it almost doesn’t make sense, makes this song fit in more as it’s very unserious.

“Escape Room by Holmes” - This song fits the overall vibe of the first part of the story, a nice relaxing vacation spot occupied by many couples. I thought this song was perfect before the murders took place.

“Wrinkled, Crinkled, Dollar Bills”  by Johnny Cash - this song talks a bit about economics through money, but it isn’t fully relatable to Economics. In this story, money is an important factor in solving this murder.

“My Funny Valentine”  by Chet Baker - This song goes into the depths of Henry’s relationship with his wife. One thing that stood out to me was the comical fact that Spearman relates his relationship with his wife to economics, it felt very random and unserious, but it helped me learn the economics terms he used in that instance, which made the book better.

“Blank Space” by Taylor Swift - This song is how Spearman feels in the second half of the book, nearing the end. Spearman feels committed and compelled to finish this case, doing anything and everything he possibly can to finish the case.

“Royals” by Lorde - This song depicts the socioeconomic differences between each character presented in this story. Some characters are a bit more pretentious than others, making this song become an apparent theme in this story.

“This is America” by Childish Gambino - “This is America” talks about the divide between class and race, and while race is not a big factor in this story, there are many biases presented towards the workers and there is a huge class difference between each character,

“bad guy” by Billie Eilish - The instrumental of “bad guy” perfectly resembles the cover and overall theme of this story. When I listen to the song “bad guy” I can imagine the colors red and black, and I can see this song being in a detective movie. “bad guy” is the perfect song for a book like this because it goes into the labyrinth of mystery and even the lyrics can resemble the ending of the story, when Spearman found it to be obvious who the killer was.

“Summertime Sadness” by Lana Del Ray - This song can be envisioned from the perspective of Pidge Spearman, Henry’s wife. Pidge sometimes worries about Henry, especially because he has a large role in solving this case. This song perfectly describes the feelings that she gets throughout the book.

[ask-serendipity-sky]

Internationally, most jkkrs are Jk biased but in Korea??? Hmmm not sure.

That's definitely not true. Majority of I-Jkk shippers are Jimin biased or double biased. There's only few JK biased Jkkrs on international side. Just like how majority of tkkrs are Tae biased.

JK stans are majority y/ns or straight shippers and if some are gay shippers they'll chose tkk over jkk anyday. They've explicitly said they don't want JK to be associated with Jimin. I've seen many JK biased jkkrs saying they feel like they are the only jk biased jkkrs lol. Meanwhile majority of my friends here are either JM biased or double biased.. well aren't you heavily JM biased too ?

Hello,

Yes, I'm Jimin biased and I've seen the state of jikook tumblr and it is not Jimin biased. It is most definitely Jk biased. If it was Jimin biased, it wouldn't be the gaslighting show it is today.

In fact, I was normal Jimin biased but then realized 90% of blogs were Jk biased so my love for Jimin deepened and here I am.

I also think most tkkrs are Jk biased. And army is Jk biased, which is made up of 3/4 tkkrs.

My jkkr friends in Latin America are about 90% Jimin biased and 10% Jk biased but they constantly get attacked for being Jimin biased too.

If people are saying they are Jimin biased and they say the things they say, they should just not say they are Jimin biased because that's embarrassing for people who are actually Jimin biased.

This is just what I've observed, though.

:)

[llikeaunicorn]

First time I've ever seen an unironically good take from a sansa stan and its brienne x sansa as a ship being great. I just love the idea of these two young women who were naive in their own ways, who've seen the harsh reality of the world, and who maybe (less certain about sansa) will choose to try to make the world better together. I also think it's a great subversion of Sansa's expectations of knighthood and marriage and love, like yeah she falls in love with a blond knight, but not a man! They're closer age wise than anyone else they get shipped with. Brienne would treat sansa well, and hopefully sansa does finish her arc in a place where she can see past appearances and social expectations. A lot of s*ns*n shippers do the whole "ah Sandor teaches sansa that appearance isnt everything" and they treat it like she owes him some kind of relationship for that, and I hate that honestly, but I think her taking what she learned with him and applying it to another person would be actual growth and very cool. Brienne's end point (at least for a happy ending) I think is less about what she's doing and more about how she feels. The broken men speech feels like it may be foreshadowing for where Brienne is going to end up, but I'd like to imagine her getting a nicer ending than that. For her ending to be happy, she's going to have to get a resolution on her sense that she doesn't belong in the world as she is (gender freak) and also she's going to need to obtain a sense of safety again I think.

I also think they could be really cute together doing what Doran does, collecting children to watch together in the gardens, maybe taking in unwanted bastard children, and children like Brienne who dont match up with expected gender roles, and homeless and hungry children. It'd require a lot of growth from Sansa and a lot of healing for Brienne but if Sansa needs a fairy tale ending, I think this one is the perfect amount of subversive. I also might just be biased towards queer pairing lmao.

[chim-chim1310]

I feel a bit bad for JK but not too much because tbh he benefits a lot more from shippers than not. Overall being associated with his 2 more charismatic members is definitely helping him out. That's the reality of the situation - both he and ARMYs know a huge chunk of his support comes from shippers and y/ns. It's just that nobody wants to face that ugly reality which is what stared them in the face in todays Weverse live comments.

Lol. Taekookers are crying today.

But I also think the majority of jungkook fans are y/ns, you know, the real jk stans. Whereas taekook shippers token stan jk because of the ship but in reality they are tae stans. And i think tae benefits more from tkk than jk does. Tae's fans care about every other thing except for his music.

I also used to think that jikookers are mostly jimin biased too but maybe I was wrong because even after the whole seven vs. Like crazy that is happening they are still trying to make excuses for jk. If they actually cared about jimin they would not be supporting the company or jk.

I don't know if jikookers are actually jk biased and using jimin for their ship. Or if they don't care about jm Or jk and are using both of them for their fantasies simply because they're in too deep to back off now.

I would bet on the latter.

Anyways I think today's live was not good and fans were disrespectful. Jk looked kinda uncomfortable that I felt a bit bad for him. People would say he chose to read those questions but what else will he read if the whole comment section was filled with shippers.

[alottamoney]

Oh but let's be honest though, Jungkook was not getting any hate, death threats, or home-wrecking accusations from either tkkrs or jkkrs for shipping reasons. Literally why would he? The worse he was ever portrayed as was as petty or indecisive or apathetic. Not as a sociopathic liar or predator or whatever. Even if a shipper was disappointed in his actions they never really expressed it in the open, Or that's what I noticed atleast. It feels so boring at this point to act like VMK are equally ~Oppressed~, if you (I mean general "you", not admin) are going to get into it then at least bring some realness into the discussion.

As long as we're discussing observations, and not asking for fair harassment of all three then, sure, I don't mind the realness.

I think Jungkook does not get homewrecker accusations by design; he's the center of the triangle. I also think a lot of Tae-biased and Jimin-biased shippers hold themselves back, because they're often accused of being y/ns in disguise anyway. Jungkook biased shippers will obviously not drag him. There's also this weird phenomenon where people act like Jungkook is much younger than Tae and Jimin. And I don't know how it factors into it, but I feel like it does- He's considered the "straightest" of the three.

Sometimes there's really no explanation for the type of reaction people elicit from others, it's not science.

[res-a-new-and-worse-sungod]

Awful Peoples awfull retelling of history

So I wrote an Essay about Heinrich von Treitschke, a german historian in the 19th century. He was part of the borussianist school of thought, these are the historians who tried to legitimate a german unification without austria and under prussian rule (Which happened in 1871). And sometimes you read sources which try to not blast you with their Ideals and biases (of course they have such, but they try to not make them too obivous). But then you have those sources, which just scream I hate such and such.

A source like that is Heinrich von Treitschke. In his writing about the congress of vienna he wrote the following about the habsburger monarch: “Geistlos und denkfaul, wie die Mehrzahl seiner Ahnen, völlig unfähig [...]” (s.19). (translation: mindless and too lazy to think, like most of his ancestors [...])

And while I dont sympatize with von Treitschkes Ideals, which were 19th century national-liberal (liberal in this case means he wanted a consitutional monarchy and more rights for the Bourgeoisie). It made my day reading his accusations against the Habsburgs, for the first time.

Treitschke also was quite the unlikeable Character and a big antisemite, spending less tastefull words on jews. He was cited heavily during the Ns-Zeit of germany, a quote of his, which I dont want to cite here became very popular, being used in a big antiesmite newspaper. So while I encourage reading his works, be careful not to take his words without the context of his character and biases, there are far better recounts of everything he writes about by today, so perhaps read those if you want an accurate description of for example the congress of vienna or the Sattelzeit as a whole.

[shitwillnotbegiven]

Dude one of the biggest pro tamlain contributors and mod ass kissers in the acotar reddit has a long history in r/titanfolk which for the attack on titan fandom is gwynriel to the extreme. The author literally had to ask fans to be nice to him on a recent trip to america because people on those reddits went full nazi (not kidding) when they their god awful “theorizing” didn’t come true. I just think it’s funny that she got the theorizing for the end of attack on titan so completely wrong that she moved on to ACOTAR and is spreading the same cherry picked bullshit.

She doesn't seem like a hardcore Gw*nriel. She's more like a Taml*n stan/Bryc*el stan even if she says she isn't.

The mods is that fucking sub are all Eluc*ens/Tamla*ns/Gwynr*els/Azr*s. They are biased and keep trying to appear neutral, you can sense the bullshit from far away.

People can post theories about Elain and Taml*n being supposed mates but the moment you insinuate that Elain might be Azriel's mate, the post is taken down.

I knew there was some trouble with the ending of Attack on Titan but since i dropped it a long time ago, i didn't look into detail.

Good to know that her habits never changed 😅. You are on point when you say she cherry picks stuff because it's exactly that.

[stupendousfoxthing]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... This rant is wild. First of all, I've been in the fandom since 2014, and I've been JK-biased the whole time. Never had a bias wrecker, Jungkook is my favorite person and that's it. I've also been a Taekooker since 2016. I used to think Taekookers skewed Tae-biased but I honestly think it's pretty balanced especially after the launch of their solo albums culled anyone who may have really only cared about one of them. I've also had close Taekooker friends who were Jimin-biased, Yoongi-biased, or Namjoon-biased. "like the whole story tkkrs built is about tae being the only victim in the whole vminkook shipping situation, jungkook the unfaithful man, and jimin being the "other woman" who seduces him and jungkook sometimes falling into his traps or sometimes he's forced by the company to play along. it depends on the situation and how it affected taekook/tkkrs." What. 😂 That's the whole story Taekookers have built? That's weird, because I've never heard that from any Taekookers I know and that is definitely not my Taekook "story" at all??? My Taekook story is not built around any "victim". My Taekook story is about two people who had obvious crushes and who fell in love during the many years they spent working and living together, the most natural thing in the world. There's no "other woman" (shocker: I think anon is a bit heteronormative) and certainly no man that plays that role either. Jimin is not a threat, never has been, and does not play into my Taekook story at all outside of being one of their best and most supportive friends whether they are together or not. As someone who is mostly on Twitter, I don't even know how anon came to this conclusion that no one cares about Jungkook unless they're actually looking at solo stans or borderline solo stans who haven't fully dropped out of the community yet. I can tell you the Taekook community I know on Twitter supports and cares for them both while getting harassed daily by akgaes who think being a Taekooker makes it impossible to do that. I'm still trying to figure out what their motivation is for trying to run Taekookers off from supporting their bias. You'd think they'd want as many people supporting them as possible so there must be a specific reason they want Taekookers' hands off them. Is it just that they're y/ns or homophobic? It's a mystery. "for tkkrs he's your typical 19-20th century husband who has a "job wife (jimin)" who's a potential homewrecker if she succeeds in seducing the husband, and whom the "real wife (tae)" gets jealous of and the couple are her victims." This anon centers Jimin a lot in the Taekook narrative 🤔 Weird, because once again he doesn't play into what I think about Taekook at all outside of being one of their best friends. So I can't decide if this anon is a JK-biased bitter ex-shipper maybe? From the Jkk side? Because they don't really seem to know much about the Taekook side of things that don't have anything to do with Jimin. And this seems to play into what I was saying earlier about solo stans who want Taekookers' hands off their bias, so they try to gaslight them into believing that because they're Taekookers they can't be a real supporter of them as individuals? Drop Taekook and only focus on one if you're a REAL supporter? My suggestion would be if you're a solo stan to focus on your fave instead of spending all day purity testing others. I've managed to stay Jungkook-biased for almost a decade and a Taekooker for over seven years now with zero insecurity because I do not care what others think of me. I don't care who other people ship, who they bias, what or whether they're streaming and buying. I don't care, it's not my business.

https://www.tumblr.com/dearweirdme/740407316667662336/hi-rain-i-saw-you-say-something-about-jkkrs?source=share

you obvious haven't been in the taekook community for a long time or you haven't branched out outside of tumblr much because if you had you'd know that taekookers are (much like jkkrs) more tae biased than they are jk biased. like the whole story tkkrs built is about tae being the only victim in the whole vminkook shipping situation, jungkook the unfaithful man, and jimin being the "other woman" who seduces him and jungkook sometimes falling into his traps or sometimes he's forced by the company to play along. it depends on the situation and how it affected taekook/tkkrs.

and this isn't saying that jkkrs are better, i'm not defending either sides because i belong to neither as im not a shipper to begin with, i have just been in this fandom long enough to see how this whole shippers situation has started and played out to this day. and the one major thing i've noticed that both sides of shippers have in common is that they both care about the non-jungkook half of their ship more, and jungkook is mostly treated like a prop from both sides. for jkkrs, he's the "supportive boyfriend" who's only worth mentioning when they want to hype up jimin and make him look superior, and for tkkrs he's your typical 19-20th century husband who has a "job wife (jimin)" who's a potential homewrecker if she succeeds in seducing the husband, and whom the "real wife (tae)" gets jealous of and the couple are her victims.

so yeah, both sides don't really gaf about jungkook much outside of using him to either prop up their fave or victimize him. jungkook stans mostly aren't shippers and they're either ot7 armys who see both hyungs as jk's closest friends, or they're solos who have no tolerance for either one of the two and drag both the entire time. which is why vmk solos are always fighting with each other and why jjks in particular are always caught in the middle of ship wars, because they're the only ones who actually defend jungkook from the crossfire.

Alright anon, get of your condescending high horse, I'm sure it was possible to send me an ask that was more conversational. I could very well be wrong, and I believe I did state that I was talking from my point of view, most of my followers are perfectly able to understand that for what it is.

What are we taking as as a measuring point for fandom behavior then if you're so against my Tumblr point of view? Twitter? TO me that's like basing your opionon on food by going to MacDonalds. Sure you'll get some nice stuff there, it's fast, it's simple, it has something for everyone... but does it give you the whole food experience? Probably not. You'll not likely be able to remember much about the food you tasted there except for that it was good (or bad). (Not wanting to trash Twitter completely, I know there's good stuff on there and I'm definitely exagerating to make a point 😁). Twitter is designed to be fast and short and by that design it makes it more difficult do go into deep discussions. Twitter is great for pushing content and activating fandom, not so great for estimating how fandom shenanigans work, because your view of it will be heavily biased by the loudest voices.. not the most sane ones.

Tiktok's algorithm wil make sure you get no-where. Instagram does not give you a sense of volume and is more about images than about discussion.

Tumblr is ofcourse small in comparison, so we don't get a sense of volume. But it does allow room for discussion. It's also real easy to go back to former posts because it works as an archive a bit. So please don't treat Tumblr as though it doesn't count in forming an opinion.

So sure I might be off, but you might be as well.

[starbuck]

You know, the turn away from “chubbie men hav cute sqwuishy tummies uwu!!!!” and towards “fat, hairy men are hot, actually” has done WONDERS for both my gender dysphoria and just generally how I feel about my body.

The former reeked of infantilization and fetishization and made me feel gross whereas the latter makes me feel good and like I have agency in way I present and how that’s perceived. And it definitely makes a difference that I’ve primarily seen the latter sentiment coming from queer men - it feels more like us saying “this is how I look (or want to look in the future) and it looks good!”, which is not what the former ever felt like to me.

[lostjulys]

fr i dont know how that got so out of hand like now there's posts floating around that say 'hey! you can do analysis if you find it fun, you're allowed to!' and like... no one was saying that you weren't allowed to? just dont say that you're an expert on it when you aren't? YOU EVEN PUT THE /LH ON THE READING LIST POST. bleh idk whatever, whole situation feels kinda gross. hope u have a better day today ros

well. i am too polite to directly vague people But. i think. escalating situations w/ inflammatory rhetoric and actively taking things wildly out of context to engage with them in bad faith is. well it is a skill set of its own that's all ill say. and some people get off on finding a way to make every take they don't agree with into smth Evil. it is... very chronically online and only proves my point 😭 also that is SO funny fr are there actually poasts like yhat???? 😭😭😭 help... what's one way to show that u never actually listened to what i was saying without saying it.... anyway yeah it does feel gross and weird idc if people talk abt me behind my back but like... at least make an effort to understand where im coming from before u call me a piece of shit? but it's the internet who am i kidding🧍🧍 anyway hope u have a kind day too anon catkiss :]

[z3nitsusgf]

THAT CLUELESS CHILDE BEAUTY YOU WROTE OH MY- MY BOY IS FINALLY GETTING HIS ATTENTION HE DESERVES!?/$/!/&:&:

My doubt is; what do you think the aftercare would be like? Like does he get shy or his ego is through the roof?

(side note: I love your writing so much oml, thank you for all your work! ^^)

OMGEE THANK YOU SO MUCH SWEETHEART!!! Kissing you on the forehead mwah 😽 (⊃｡•́‿•̀｡)⊃ I love you guys and writing , truly this blog has boosted my affinity for writing and sharing content <3

cw: little bit of ns*w, aftercare, Tartaglia in his feels

I think his aftercare is actually really good, maybe I’m biased bc it’s my AU but bc he’s such a good dude, he’d really really take care of you.

Afterwards, you’re exhausted and spent. So pliant and lax under him, shivering from the aftershocks. It’s definitely not how you expected him to be, and now you don’t know what to do, mind all frazzled and muddy, and he sees the way you get hazey and misty and he just kinda leans down and starts kissing at your face. He’s still pumped full of adrenaline, chalked full of that buzzing feeling from earlier, feeling it lingering in his veins.

Pulls you into his lap, knows that you’ll have to talk about what just happened eventually - but, it’s fine to just sit here for now right? Right. So him being the gentleman he is, makes sure you’re okay. Pets your damp skin, catalogues every mark, bite, hickey, whatever trace of him on you - he stores it in his brain for later. Thumbs lightly over your tummy, can’t help but soften at how you already lean into his touch.

I think after the adrenaline goes away his ego deflates and he’s suddenly holding onto you and muttering apologies and praises into you, small whiny verses of “oh god, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to go that far, are you okay?”

All the while, he’s smoothing out your hair and wiping away your tears and drool and cum. Kissing your lips and mumbling how lucky he is, while you hold onto him and just let him do his thing. He definitely has to hold himself back when he sees how ruined you look, all covered in him and swollen, twitchy legs and all. Just busies himself with making sure you’re okay, getting you cleaned up and dressed.

Definitely feels embarrassed afterwards, no one has seen him like that save for maybe a few other people. So, being in a new vulnerable position makes him shy, cuddling up to your afterwards. Tucks you into his bed, and crawls up next to you. Just holds you while you pass out and he also just falls asleep, you two can talk about this later :3