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Mania is somehow both overrated and underrated at the same time. No one rates it appropriately, which is that it's just ok, leaning towards good. It has really high highs but it's production ultimately bogs it down. I don't think it's like. Blatant trend chasing like most critics seemed to think it was, but I do think it's edm leanings are kinds off putting. And then the fan response around it kind of overblows how good it is to compensate for that.
very interesting take like. i agree w parts of what u said!! i def don’t think mania is their Best work personally, so in some ways seems overrated because i feel like. people see the hate it got (and still gets) and hype it up and praise it a Lot to overcorrect which is Very understandable!!! but perhaps then not completely accurate to ppls true feelings of it? which is where it not being accurately rated comes in, but also personally i Dont find the edm leanings offputting, i find them really intriguing and interesting and love the album for it so. really ultimately think it comes down to personal preference yk? from an objective standpoint i can agree it’s Good, not their best or their worst. people just either feel very negative towards it bc of how different it is (also often for racist reasons), or protective over it because of how different it is fjdkfndkd
#tbh same kinda thing happened with folie and now its a fan favorite but i think generally properly rated#now that people hate on it less and varying opinions on it are more broadly accepted#so im sure on day the same will happen w mania!! the genius of it will be appreciated but reasonably so bc it Isnt perfect after all!#asks#anon
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This concludes the answers so far for the first set of AskGWFan Questions. If you have anything you wanna ask the group, use the ask function on tumblr or send me a dm!
What's a character/ship you've learned to appreciate? What made you change your mind?
Relena x Dorothy. Both as characters and as a ship. Part of this is that I hadn't seen all of the series at the time I first did fandom, but I had seen Endless Waltz, and that was the extent to which I had known Dorothy. She doesn't even interact with Relena in EW!! I had no impression of her (besides whomst??), and I honestly don't even remember if Relena ever appeared in fics I read since a lot of them were AUs anyway. However, after seeing the series and MISS RELENA and all of Dorothy's... Dorothy, I think she's got some great cult appeal!! And my mind really changed on both when I saw the whole series properly. I'm not sure I would have been on board with them at the time since I was less discerning about how female characters often get developed poorly, but I don't regret that I experienced Relena and Dorothy fully at a time where I could appreciate them.
I eventually started to appreciate Relena more, she grows up a lot by the end, even if she definitely should not be handling the responsibility she has...
Honestly breaking outside of the typical ships by reading more fics broadened my horizons. Writers I loved ventured into non-typical and I found myself enjoying the exploration. I think over time it had less to do with the ship and more to do with the characters as the fandom aged.
I've been reading a lot more yaoi since interacting with the larger fandom. I've always loved non-traditional gender roles in romance stories, and I don't know why it took me so long to try yaoi? I've read some yuri but never in Gundam Wing. Interacting with the yaoi community has opened up a lot more characterization of the pilots for me, which have always played the role of "tough, emotionless boys" in my headcanons.
Howard. He’s amazing and hilarious and as I get older I’m more and more like, is this the only sane character? I used to just be like “who is this weird guy?” and now I’m like “why isn’t there more Howard?”
What characters/ships do you think got some negative flack? How has the GW fandom's attitudes towards those characters/ships changed?
The scientists hahahahahaahah. I think for the most part unless you are in a niche group, the scientists are generally seen as child abusers to varying degrees. Tsubarov? Everyone still hates him but acknowledge he has a flair for the dramatique. Camp villain appreciation I guess. Relena was definitely shat on, being at the unfortunate intersection of romantic rival and 'annoying' female lead. Again, as someone whose canon experience was informed by Endless Waltz more than the anime, I don't remember if I had any opinions on her at all. However, I think people have admitted where they were wrong (whether owning up to bashing, or speaking up about fandom broadly).
Well besides the obvious Relena, one character that got so much hate and bashing in 1xR circles was Sylvia. I remember one of the first things I checked when I got back into fandom was Sylvia's role in the show and was surprised to see how little she actually does?? She's literally in one episode but was constantly dragged into 1xR stories to be a romantic rival for Relena. Pretty much the same role Relena took on in a lot of 1x2 stories. I guess we just got away with it because she was a minor character. It was just interesting to me that 1xR fans gave some girl the same treatment that 1x2 fans did to Relena. I think that realization helped me put aside the Relena bashing and move on from it. If I don't see Sylvia as an evil character anymore, why would Relena bashers? And I was really happy to find that I was right. As the fandom moved away from romance-centric plots to look at self growth and politics, less characters became target for fandom hate/bashing, and we moved on.
Well, back in the olden days Relena and Wufei were probably the ones who got it worst. Dorothy. Hilde. Zechs. Treize. Heck, even reasonably popular characters like Duo and Quatre had their own "defense" societies against some of the fanon surrounding them. But fans have grown up over the years and portrayals of the characters and various ships have too. (2x5 for instance has gone from a total rare pair to one of the top GW ships on AO3 which I find a fascinating trajectory.) Have we evolved into a perfect utopia? No, and there will probably always be complaints about how a given character or ship is popularly portrayed. I certainly have my bugbears, just like anyone else might. But it's a long time since I've opened up a fic and seen character bashing of the sort that was common c. 2001. People might not be shy about sharing their opinions on their own blogs, but picking fights on other people's content? Flame wars? Not so much these days. The GW fandom might be smaller, but we're also closer-knit. Fandom is about having fun; finding the pockets that bring you enjoyment and finding ways to filter out the rest, and I think we mostly get that (or we're just too old and tired to have much fight left in in us lol).
Well, very early Relena and Duo battles made me nervous of the fandom back in the day, but I think those mainly came from places within ourselves that we can see now don’t need to be at odds. I love them both and I am glad to see the fandom embrace them both on their own merits. I think it’s easy to be anti- when you are younger and appreciative when you are older (and I totally understand how people could be anti! No judgements. I just love everyone and want everyone to be happy. Except Zechs. He has some SERIOUS explaining to do.)
Oh, Relena *definitely* had a lot of negative flack. I'm glad most of us seem to have mellowed out about the poor girl. It's hard to hate a kid when one is in their 30's, lol
Relena of course, but also 3x4 was seen as the “lesser” ship back in my day and there wasn’t much depth or enthusiasm by many other fans.
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Can you tell me about the latest bit of social science fieldwork you and your Freemason friends have done?
So, here's the core idea.
1. In the present day, political and social conflicts often play out in public, in the form of arguments, protests, boycotts, etc.
2. Different people are capable of having different opinions, even in extremely niche topics, and these opinions are sometimes very divided. Examples:
There are many people on the political left who hate Hillary Clinton, for obvious reasons
There are also many people on the political right who hate Hillary Clinton (see #1), for similar reasons
People tend to have very different opinions about Milo Yiannopoulos and his ilk
et cetera
A lot of this is "people have very different opinions about anything, and are very adamant about these opinions." But in social science we don't pay too much attention to what people think, we focus on the structure of their social networks and how those networks evolve over time.
3. Most social scientists like to talk to lots of people, but making research staff do this on their own time is very hard (maybe completely impossible?) because a large fraction of the people you want to talk to will be unreachable. Thus, a lot of social science research, even when it involves talking to people on everyday topics, is based on the small number of people who feel like collaborating.
3b. Often this leads to the same small number of people collaborating on more and more projects over time.
3c. The people who do a lot of social science research are (on average) aware that their primary source of funding is their National Science Foundation grant, and that being seen as "too political" can, in the long run, result in the loss of their grant. As a result, they do their best to appear as disinterested as possible, and this results in them working on fewer "too political" projects than some more-neutral group of people would be willing to do. Thus you get an "echo chamber" of social science research.
Being trapped in an echo chamber can have bad consequences:
The literature on the social psychology of political extremism is a lot less useful than it could be, because social scientists write it based on their personal impressions of events and discussions with the two or three other people (of varying quality) with whom they happen to be studying politics at the time
A lot of the research that does get published about fringe/controversial views (e.g. flat earth, Reptilian aliens) is so bad that it's not really worth discussing except as a cautionary tale about the dangers of echo chambers
(I was going to say that the social science literature on fringe views is not a "literature" per se – it's just some guy somewhere arguing that Reptilians are probably real, or some other crankshaft – but as a formal "literature" it exists, and is impressive/terrible in roughly equal measure.)
4. Freemasonry, as you likely know if you've followed the news, is a broadly mainstream men's social club/movement centered in the U.S. and originally based on a U.S. historical society. There's public debate about whether Masons should endorse Donald Trump, and if so how, and there's also public debate about whether Trump is really a Mason. I think the "Masons vs. not-Masons" political battle is now pretty ossified, and there's broad agreement about many important things (e.g. what Trump's campaign meant, what the U.S. was like in 1980, what the Holocaust means).
Our idea is: let's pay attention to what non-Masons – people who aren't members of Masons, but who aren't part of the political "club" (Republicans, Democrats, Independents) – are talking about. Unlike typical social science research, we aren't looking for what works in general (we're studying a very specific group and trying to understand things about them), we're just looking at what different people talk about. And instead of ignoring people we don't find agreeable, we want to talk to as many people as we can, and try to understand the shape of their opinions – where are the disagreements, what are some people agreeing with and some not, what different clusters are there.
4b. People talk about different topics in different forums. We wanted to sample a broad range of these topics. Here is a list of the forums we looked at:
LGBTQ stuff (obvious)
Flat earth
Reptile aliens
Gun control (I think was in the news recently?)
David Icke (who is sort of a celebrity "fringe theorist" – his ideas are confusing, and have led to a kind of "pizza conspiracy" involving 9/11, and have some mainstream popularity in certain circles, but aren't really mainstream in general)
Various fringe economic ideas, like "gold currency gives you psychic powers"
Various fringe psychology ideas, like "you can read minds by looking at irises"
There were others, but these were listed because they are examples of topics that are controversial in the public sphere, and thus seem especially good for our purposes.
Note that we looked at threads, not people, and only looked at posts by people who identified as part of the Flat Earth community on the PE forum, and so on. The latter restriction helps ensure that we are studying conversations among fringe groups, not conversations about fringe groups, and hopefully will lead to less researcher degrees-of-freedom. It definitely would be better to have paid more attention to the nature of other fringe groups in the sample, but the PE forum was the first one we found that had some activity to give us access to their posts, and our paid-for Masons membership got us access to most of what was going on in there.
We limited the sample to these particular fringe topics because otherwise the forum tends to be super unproductive (mainly due to the general reluctance of forums to restrict what can be posted there, but also because there are other reasons we don't discuss here, like the potential to offend people).
Also, while we weren't exactly looking for discourse threads that touched on political topics, we did end up doing some of that along the way, which was nice, but didn't feel like we were spending an appropriate amount of time on that.
4c. A lot of interesting social science research is published by researchers affiliated with universities, not by the people doing the actual fieldwork. This is not nefarious, but it does mean that what we look at could be unintentionally skewed toward academia.
5. There's a phenomenon we refer to as "the filter bubble," meaning a tendency for people to talk only to or about people who agree with them.
This is a special danger for social scientists trying to understand "fringe" views, because (as we saw in the case of Trump, above) there are lots of people who like to talk about those topics, and not all of them are friendly. If you are immersed in fringe-discussion among "fringe-y" people, you might end up talking to the exact sort of person who would end up on the "fringe" if we studied "fringe" issues – and you might think that, because we studied fringe issues, our subjects are fringe people.
But even if the issues happen to be "mainstream" issues
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What To Consider When You’re Considering A Career in Psychology
Your Long Term Goals
The first question you should ask yourself is, are my long-term goals aligned with a career in psychology?
Take some time to really think about what you want to do as a career. Not what you want to be – what you want to do. How do you imagine your daily work life? What kinds of tasks do you want to do? What kind of setting do you want to work in? Who do you want to interact with (if anyone)? What kind of things would make you miserable in a job? Would you hate to have to be somewhere every day at 8am, or would you hate receiving 11pm emails or phone calls from your team? Do you like doing long-term projects or would you prefer to be truly “done” at the end of your work day? Do you want leadership roles, and if so, what kind? How much money do you want to make? Are there accommodations you might want or need?
If you’re like me (a lover of organization and lists and planning), then you might want to make some kind of document to organize what you want and what you don’t want. You might want to prioritize them- maybe “working with kids in the foster system” is a necessity but “never being on-call” is a want but not an absolute need. However you want to think about your goals, get a good sense of them, and then compare them to existing sorts of jobs and responsibilities in psychology. (See my “what is a clinical psychologist and how do I become one” post here).
The positive thing here is that careers in psychology are incredibly varied, so you are likely to find paths that will fit your long-term goals (assuming you are interested in psychology, mental health, human services, social sciences, etc., in general). However- one of the pitfalls I have seen a number of people fall into when pursuing psychology is that the position or path they had in mind isn’t actually a great fit for them. So here is a short list of examples where a person’s goals don’t align with their chosen path:
A person who wants a clinical position but doesn’t want to do paperwork or doesn’t want to have interactions with other people.
A person who wants to have their own private practice but having a steady and good income is a necessity.
A person who wants to create change in mental health systems but doesn’t want a leadership role.
A person who wants to work with a high needs or high risk group but doesn’t want to work nights or weekends or be on call.
A person who wants to do research but also wants to work for themselves.
I can’t possibly list all the potential matches or mismatches here, so one way to understand what it really means to pursue your long-term goals is to find someone who has the kind of position you want, and ask them lots of questions to see whether the position is really a good fit for you.
Some of these mismatches are negotiable as long as you are flexible- so with the #2 example, a person might choose to get a clinical job with some kind of agency to have a steady income while simultaneously building their private practice. I’m going to talk more about flexibility below, but in short- being as flexible as possible with the specifics can help you achieve the big picture parts of your goals.
Your Personal Qualities
The second question to ask yourself is,
are my personal qualities a good fit with the psychology field in general and my chosen path in particular?
This is not a question of whether you are “good enough” for psychology. We all have strengths and weaknesses and neutral qualities, and those qualities align better with some paths than others. Psychology is a great fit for me, because I love nuance and complicated questions, have a lot of resilience and perseverance, have empathy but am good at remaining objective, am very calm in a crisis, and am willing to put up with a certain amount of administrative and other bullshit in order to do the things I enjoy. Medicine on the other hand, would not have been a good fit, because I am terrible at memorization, get incredibly nauseous when seeing medical events (let alone being a part of them!), would never be able to keep to a 15 or 20 minute appointment, and would not physically be able to do residency given the huge sleep deprivation residents experience.
So think about your personality traits, your behavioral habits, your preferences, your physical needs, your learning style- all of it, and then again, compare to what is typically needed for psychologists. Here’s an incomplete list:
Critical thinking skills
Social skills
Communication skills
Ability to take criticism
Ability to assess your skills and weaknesses
Distress tolerance skills
Emotion regulation skills
Conscientiousness
Ability to translate theory into practice
Ability to think quickly
Ability to stay calm and be effective in a crisis
Abstract thinking skills
Ability to integrate multiple sources of information
Ability to separate out subjective opinion versus objective information
Ability to tolerate ambiguity and accept that there’s often “right” answer or “right” solution
Thoughtfulness
Thoroughness
Metacognition (ability to think about your own thinking)
Willingness to work with people (clients) you don’t “like” or agree with
Ability to work as a team
Leadership skills
Writing skills
An adequate understanding or willingness to learn about research methods & statistics
A strong ethical foundation
Willingness to advocate for yourself and others
Ability to tolerate/interact with/be a part of bureaucracy
Ability to see the “big picture” as well as manage the small details
Organization
Cognitive flexibility
Ability to set your own goals and meet them (without external deadlines or pressure)
Independence
Integrity
Fairness
Cultural competency
Ability to assess your own bias and identify how to manage the impact of that bias
Self-management/self-motivation
Ability to try again after failure
Interest on ongoing learning and training
Interest in innovation and improvement across the discipline
Drive/ambition
I am not saying that if you don’t have all of the skills and qualities, you cannot be a psychologist. Some things you can learn and some you can avoid if you pick positions wisely. But if you find yourself going down this list and struggling to see yourself in these traits in general, or finding them unappealing, then it’s a sign this isn’t right for you.
Education & Training
The third question to ask yourself is a two parter:
1) What kind of education and training is a good fit for me?
This goes back to the idea of some paths being a better fit for your personal qualities than others. If we’re thinking of psychology broadly (so, including PhD/PsyD programs as well as master’s level programs and medical school), the different types of graduate training vary significantly. PhD/PsyD program (the quality ones, anyway) programs are focused on research, clinical training, and scholarship (mostly in that order). Master’s programs are focused on clinical training, with some interest in scholarship and usually minimal interest in research. Medical programs are interested in scholarship initially and then medical (not clinical in the same way) training later, with again minimal interest in research.
All of that means that the programs have different kinds of approaches and requirements. PhD programs are about critical thinking, deep engagement in the scholarship and then application of theories to clinical work and research, improving clinical practice and outcomes via research, and vice versa- improving research by understanding clinical needs and learning from clinical experiences. A PhD program is for people who love essays, debate, and thinking about things from many angles without coming to an absolute answer. Medical programs are about learning things- biochemistry, anatomy and physiology, diagnostic criteria, etc.- and then applying them effectively and efficiently in medical settings. An MD program is for people who like having the “right” answer, who are doers (as opposed to contemplators, not that these are exclusive), and who are really good at deductive reasoning (and so probably love multiple choice exams).
Master’s programs vary a lot by discipline- social work vs. counseling vs. marital and family therapy vs. other things- so I won’t try to capture all of them fully. But in general a professional master’s- like social work, etc., that lead to a degree –are about learning the primary skills and knowledge you need to be a competent part of that profession. A master’s program is for people who want to get into the field (or out of school) as quickly as possible, who learn quickly and/or through experience rather than school, and who see themselves as being direct contact professionals rather than being in leadership roles.
2) How much post-college training am I willing to do?
It takes a long time to become a psychologist. (see again my post here). For clinical psychologists, it typically takes 6 years to receive a PhD, and then probably another year to get licensed. You may not be willing to do this- and that’s okay. Think very deeply about your willingness to be in school for a long time, to not make very much money, etc. Maybe it’s worth it to you (it has been for me). But if it isn’t- think about how much you are willing to do. Are you okay with 2 years of a master’s plus a year or so to get licensed? That’s probably the least you can do if you want to be licensed. Again, if that’s not acceptable- that is okay. But you should now start to look at what kinds of jobs you can get in psychology with a BA/BS. Those jobs will make less money and have a lower ceiling in terms of advancement, which might work fine for you, but if they don’t, start looking at other fields. If you’re okay with playing a more administrative role, you could consider those sorts of positions. You can still be a part of a clinical, research, and/or academic team, although with less direct involvement and less money (still pretty okay money, though).
Bonus: If you would like to become a researcher and/or get a faculty position (of any kind), you will probably need to do at least one postdoc, meaning between 2 and 4 (or more) years of training after you receive your PhD. This is a huge commitment. Again, you might be okay with this (I am), but many people are not. Although you might be one of the few who gets a research or faculty job right out of grad school, that is not the likely outcome. So be honest with yourself about how much you are willing to do, and if it will be acceptable to you to take another path if needed.
Financing
Make sure you understand how much it will cost to get your training completed, and compare that against your likely income
(let’s talk more about that, below).
In the past, I would note that one reason to go PhD and/or to pursue the best possible university-based graduate program you can is because you will get more funding. I received tuition remission, health insurance and a (small) stipend while I was in graduate school. This hugely cuts down on the cost of graduate school and may even allow you to complete graduate school without taking out loans. However, as of this writing I don’t know what will become of the tax bill that would tax undergraduate and graduate students for tuition remission. If that passes, the cost of graduate school will significantly increase- and while having tuition remission will still be cheaper than paying tuition, I can’t imagine that not taking any loans will be feasible unless you have another, significant source of income or a lot of savings, etc. If it does not pass (fingers crossed), then my typical advice applies- get yourself to a program that will pay you to go, both because it helps a lot financially and because it’s a sign of a quality program. A PhD or PsyD program that does not pay you to go is of questionable quality- avoid at all costs. Still, most doctoral psychologists take out significant loans- the last average I saw was over 50k on average by the time students were applying to internship (which is very expensive).
MD programs and medical programs often do charge tuition and may not have much in the way of scholarships or assistantships to help out. In those cases it doesn’t mean as much about the program’s quality. But in either case- make sure you fully understand your prospective financial burden (including cost of living, medical, emergency costs, etc etc) and make sure it is feasible for you while you are in school and that you will have a reasonable way to pay back loans.
One thing to look at is loan repayment programs. In the United States (again, as of this writing) there are several government-funded programs to repay loans. The Public Service Loan Repayment Program will forgive all loans for people in public service jobs (make sure yours will apply, most psychologists working in public or not for profit agencies will qualify, private practice does not) after making 120 on-time, non-consecutive payments. NIH Loan Repayment Program will pay up to $35,000 per year for two years for psychologists and other researchers in specific positions (again, make sure you will qualify- federal employees do not qualify for this program). There are also a number of programs (federal and not) that will make loan payments for clinicians working in underserved areas and/or with underserved groups- for example, the Indian Health Service often includes loan forgiveness with their job postings because it can be hard to hire clinicians to work with Nations living in more remote areas.
Income
Make sure you understand how much a typical psychologist makes, and look at average income by area and specific job.
According to BLS, the median psychologist made $75,230 in 2016. The range is huge, though, which is why you’ll want to do some digging to see how much psychologists in the position and area you want to be in make. If you’re looking at public jobs like universities and the VA, those salaries are public so you should be able to find good numbers online.
What I want to emphasize to you is that although there are some psychologists who make a lot of money, they are not the norm. Most psychologists are solidly middle class but definitely not upper class. If you want to make a lot of money- or, think you can easily take care of $200,000 of loans with your huge psychology income –think again.
The psychologists who make the most money are: people who specialize in doing high-risk assessments, like forensic assessment or child custody cases (you’ll also need really good liability insurance); people who have leadership roles in big organizations (like, being the director for mental health at a big city VA, or being a dean at a prestigious university); people who have created an assessment that other psychologists are willing to pay a lot of money for; people who are really good at something (usually statistics or a innovate methodology like genetics) and become consultants, often to pharmaceutical companies or similar; people who are really big deal researchers (like Aaron Beck); people providing assessment and/or consultation and/or QI to big institutions with a lot of money (like running the concussion protocol at NFL games) and people who own cash pay private practices in upper class areas. It’s definitely okay to pursue a job like this, but they are competitive and rare, and often more available to people already established in the field as opposed to early career people. So for example, one of my professors consults with groups like the FBI and the NFL, but they have literal decades of experience in their area of expertise and so worked their way up to that point.
Moving
Make sure you are okay with moving at least once in pursuit of your goals.
Although it is not impossible to stay within one metro area to complete all of your training and then get a job, it is unlikely and not recommended for people in PhD or MD programs- the idea is that by living in different regions and training in different institutions and with different mentors, you get a wider array of experience and training. Master’s programs have fewer steps so although you may move, it’s not unreasonable to stay in one primary place for all of your training. In my case, I have lived in 3 states during my training (all at least 1000 miles away from the others), none of which are my home state. That’s not atypical, so think about whether you’re willing to move several times in pursuit of great training and/or employment opportunities. It’s not absolutely necessary to move that many times, but it’s unlikely you’ll stay in one place throughout. Being “geographically limited” is not an absolute deal-breaker, but the more flexible you can be, the better your chances of getting into a program or getting a job that you really want. Remember that everyone else also wants to be in NYC, California, Boston, etc., so try to expand your horizons to less popular locations and institutions- if they are a good fit for you. There are some really great programs in the Midwest, for example (and not just in Chicago).
Flexibility
Ask yourself, how flexible am I willing to be, both in the journey and in the final(ish) result? There is a saying that it’s important to be flexible in the details as long as you reach your big picture goal, and that applies very well to psychology. If your goal is “Be a tenured professor at UC Berkeley” or “Own a private practice in Manhattan,” those are laudable and exciting goals. But they are both very specific and very ambitious. So again, think about what you really want out of your career. What are the key elements? And then consider how you can be more flexible in the rest. It’s okay to have a dream position at UC Berkeley or a vision of yourself in a practice overlooking Central Park or whatever, but understand that this may not be attainable to you, and it might not end up being the best fit for you. So if you can broaden your goals to include the essential elements but less of the specifics, you come to a more likely but still exciting goal. So for those two examples, you might change them to “Work in a clinical psychology PhD program” or “Have a clinical practice position focused on women’s health.”
You also must consider whether it would be acceptable for you to fail. You may be extremely talented, driven, hard working, and passionate. But this is a competitive field, and no matter how ‘good’ you are, no matter how qualified and competent, you may not get the position you want. That’s true for academia, but it’s also true for other positions. So think carefully- if you fail, if you are rejected, will that be okay? Are you willing to try over and over, even if it means receiving rejection after rejection? Are you okay with changing direction if needed? If only one possible outcome is acceptable to you, and the time you’ve spent will not be worth it unless you reach that goal, then this may not be the right path for you.
Final Question: Do you really understand what you’re getting into?
I have no idea how much research you’ve done or how much you know about the field of psychology in general or your chosen path in particular. But I want to emphasize to you- in case it’s needed –that being a psychologist or being in the field more broadly is not like it may seem from the media. Keep in mind that you are more likely to work in a small windowless office with generic and hideous floral prints on the walls than a beautiful office overlooking the ocean and furnished with a comfy couch for your clients and a leather recliner for you. You will work really hard for your clients and will often not see any improvement, and they may not be grateful to you. You will probably get yelled at, cursed at, threatened, ghosted, and possibly even assaulted by the people you are trying to help. You will work really hard on research projects you truly believe in and have reviewers and editors and mentors tear it to pieces. You will be rejected and condescended to by the leaders of your field. Even though you will be an expert in your area, your clients and colleagues and the public will doubt you. You may suffer from burn out. You may struggle financially. My point is: This is a very hard field. The media often makes it look comfortable and easy, like all you do is wear expensive, somewhat boho clothing and sit in a beautiful room doling out perfect advice to rich and sad white women. Although there are some psychologists who do fit that description, it’s rare. This field is wonderful- truly, I love it –but it is very difficult and you must understand what you’re signing up for. If it’s not a fit for you, figure it out as soon as possible so you don’t waste your time.
Actually, One More Question: Is it worth it to you?
This is my personal criteria for pursuing a graduate degree (of any kind):
1. You will enjoy the training experience itself. AND/OR
2. You should care so much about your chosen field that even if you won’t enjoy the training, it’s worth it to you.
If it’s worth it, and maybe even sounds fun and exciting and enjoyable- do it. If after reading this you find yourself googling “jobs that require only a bachelor’s,” then don’t. This is a wonderful, enriching, important, fulfilling field- but only if it’s worth it to you. If not, there are other careers where you can still help people, advance science, improve health outcomes, understand people, etc. Find the one that works for you.
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Beyond Platforms: Private Censorship, Parler, and the Stack
Last week, following riots that saw supporters of President Trump breach and sack parts of the Capitol building, Facebook and Twitter made the decision to give the president the boot. That was notable enough, given that both companies had previously treated the president, like other political leaders, as largely exempt from content moderation rules. Many of the president’s followers responded by moving to Parler. This week, the response has taken a new turn. Infrastructure companies much closer to the bottom of the technical “stack”— including Amazon Web Services (AWS), and Google’s Android and Apple’s iOS app stores—deciding to cut off service not just to an individual but to an entire platform. Parler has so far struggled to return online, partly through errors of its own making, but also because the lower down the technical stack, the harder it is to find alternatives, or re-implement what capabilities the Internet has taken for granted.
Whatever you think of Parler, these decisions should give you pause. Private companies have strong legal rights under U.S. law to refuse to host or support speech they don’t like. But that refusal carries different risks when a group of companies comes together to ensure that certain speech or speakers are effectively taken offline altogether.
The Free Speech Stack—aka “Free Speech Chokepoints”
To see the implications of censorship choices by deeper stack companies, let’s back up for a minute. As researcher Joan Donovan puts it,“At every level of the tech stack, corporations are placed in positions to make value judgments regarding the legitimacy of content, including who should have access, and when and how.” And the decisions made by companies at varying layers of the stack are bound to have different impacts on free expression.
At the top of the stack are services like Facebook, Reddit, or Twitter, platforms whose decisions about who to serve (or what to allow) are comparatively visible, though still far too opaque to most users. Their responses can be comparatively targeted to specific users and content and, most importantly, do not cut off as many alternatives. For instance, a discussion forum lies close to the top of the stack: if you are booted from such a platform, there are other venues in which you can exercise your speech. These are the sites and services that all users (both content creators and content consumers) interact with most directly. They are also the places where people think of when they think of the content (i.e.“I saw it on Facebook”). Users are often required to have individual accounts or advantaged if they do. Users may also specifically seek out the sites for their content. The closer to the user end, the more likely it is that sites will have more developed and apparent curatorial and editorial policies and practices—their "signature styles." And users typically have an avenue, flawed as it may be, to communicate directly with the service.
At the other end of the stack are internet service providers (ISPs), like Comcast or AT&T. Decisions made by companies at this layer of the stack to remove content or users raise greater concerns for free expression, especially when there are few if any competitors. For example, it would be very concerning if the only broadband provider in your area cut you off because they didn’t like what you said online—or what someone else whose name is on the account said. The adage “if you don’t like the rules, go elsewhere” doesn’t work when there is nowhere else to go.
In between are a wide array of intermediaries, such as upstream hosts like AWS, domain name registrars, certificate authorities (such as Let’s Encrypt), content delivery networks (CDNs), payment processors, and email services. EFF has a handy chart of some of those key links between speakers and their audience here. These intermediaries provide the infrastructure for speech and commerce, but many have only the most tangential relationship to their users. Faced with a complaint, takedown will be much easier and cheaper than a nuanced analysis of a given user’s speech, much less the speech that might be hosted by a company that is a user of their services. So these service are more likely to simply cut a user or platform off than do a deeper review. Moreover, in many cases both speakers and audiences will not be aware of the identities of these services and, even if they do, have no independent relationship with them. These services are thus not commonly associated with the speech that passes through them and have no "signature style" to enforce.
Infrastructure Takedowns Are Equally If Not More Likely to Silence Marginalized Voices
We saw a particularly egregious example of an infrastructure takedown just a few months ago, when Zoom made the decision to block a San Francisco State University online academic event featuring prominent activists from Black and South African liberation movements, the advocacy group Jewish Voice for Peace, and controversial figure Leila Khaled—inspiring Facebook and YouTube to follow suit. The decision, which Zoom justified on the basis of Khaled’s alleged ties to a U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organization, was apparently made following external pressure.
Although we have numerous concerns with the manner in which social media platforms like Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter make decisions about speech, we viewed Zoom’s decision differently. Companies like Facebook and YouTube, for good or ill, include content moderation as part of the service they provide. Since the beginning of the pandemic in particular, however, Zoom has been used around the world more like a phone company than a platform. And just as you don’t expect your phone company to start making decisions about who you can call, you don’t expect your conferencing service to start making decisions about who can join your meeting.
Just as you don’t expect your phone company to start making decisions about who you can call, you don’t expect your conferencing service to start making decisions about who can join your meeting.
It is precisely this reason that Amazon’s ad-hoc decision to cut off hosting to social media alternative Parler, in the face of public pressure, should be of concern to anyone worried about how decisions about speech are made in the long run. In some ways, the ejection of Parler is neither a novel, nor a surprising development. Firstly, it is by no means the first instance of moderation at this level of the stack. Prior examples include Amazon denying service to WikiLeaks and the entire nation of Iran. Secondly, the domestic pressure on companies like Amazon to disentangle themselves from Parler was intense, and for good reason. After all, in the days leading up to its removal by Amazon, Parler played host to outrageously violent threats against elected politicians from its verified users, including lawyer L. Lin Wood.
But infrastructure takedowns nonetheless represent a significant departure from the expectations of most users. First, they are cumulative, since all speech on the Internet relies upon multiple infrastructure hosts. If users have to worry about satisfying not only their host’s terms and conditions but also those of every service in the chain from speaker to audience—even though the actual speaker may not even be aware of all of those services or where they draw the line between hateful and non-hateful speech—many users will simply avoid sharing controversial opinions altogether. They are also less precise. In the past, we’ve seen entire large websites darkened by upstream hosts because of a complaint about a single document posted. More broadly, infrastructure level takedowns move us further toward a thoroughly locked-down, highly monitored web, from which a speaker can be effectively ejected at any time.
Going forward, we are likely to see more cases that look like Zoom’s censorship of an academic panel than we are Amazon cutting off another Parler. Nevertheless, Amazon’s decision highlights core questions of our time: Who should decide what is acceptable speech, and to what degree should companies at the infrastructure layer play a role in censorship?
At EFF, we think the answer is both simple and challenging: wherever possible, users should decide for themselves, and companies at the infrastructure layer should stay well out of it. The firmest, most consistent, approach infrastructure chokepoints can take is to simply refuse to be chokepoints at all. They should act to defend their role as a conduit, rather than a publisher. Just as law and custom developed a norm that we might sue a publisher for defamation, but not the owner of the building the publisher occupies, we are slowly developing norms about responsibility for content online. Companies like Zoom and Amazon have an opportunity to shape those norms—for the better or for the worse.
Internet Policy and Practice Should Be User-Driven, Not Crisis-Driven
It’s easy to say today, in a moment of crisis, that a service like Parler should be shunned. After all, people are using it to organize attacks on the U.S. Capitol and on Congressional leaders, with an expressed goal to undermine the democratic process. But when the crisis has passed, pressure on basic infrastructure, as a tactic, will be re-used, inevitably, against unjustly marginalized speakers and forums. This is not a slippery slope, nor a tentative prediction—we have already seen this happen to groups and communities that have far less power and resources than the President of the United States and the backers of his cause. And this facility for broad censorship will not be lost on foreign governments who wish to silence legitimate dissent either. Now that the world has been reminded that infrastructure can be commandeered to make decisions to control speech, calls for it will increase: and principled objections may fall to the wayside.
Over the coming weeks, we can expect to see more decisions like these from companies at all layers of the stack. Just today, Facebook removed members of the Ugandan government in advance of Tuesday’s elections in the country, out of concerns for election manipulation. Some of the decisions that these companies make may be well-researched, while others will undoubtedly come as the result of external pressure and at the expense of marginalized groups.
The core problem remains: regardless of whether we agree with an individual decision, these decisions overall have not and will not be made democratically and in line with the requirements of transparency and due process, and instead are made by a handful of individuals, in a handful of companies, most distanced and least visible to the most Internet users. Whether you agree with those decisions or not, you will not be a part of them, nor be privy to their considerations. And unless we dismantle the increasingly centralized chokepoints in our global digital infrastructure, we can anticipate an escalating political battle between political factions and nation states to seize control of their powers.
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Tahla Nhavan - Character Questions
Decided to fill out some character questions in between some other stuff bc why not
1. How does your character think of their father? What do they hate and love about him? What influence - literal or imagined - did the father have?
Like most traditional Keeper males, Tahla’s father preferred a life of wandering in solitude. Her memories of him stem from the occasional visits he made to the clan during her early childhood years. As his appearances abruptly stopped by the time she was old enough to form a true opinion of him (whether this was of his own choice or because of some terrible fate befalling him, no one was sure), Tahla only remembers him as strong and stoically silent, though surprisingly tender when alone with her mother.
2. Their mother? How do they think of her? What do they hate? Love? What influence - literal or imagined - did the mother have?
When she was very small, they got along quite well. As Tahla got older, however, she began to take after her aunt and as a result her relationship with her mother got somewhat argumentative. Jinta could sometimes have lofty ideas about right and wrong, and she generally had a strong dislike of confrontation, things that a young and rebellious Tahla had little patience for. Despite this, her mother did still manage to instill some thoughtfulness into her, easily curbing the ruthless side of her that her aunt was cultivating.
3. Brothers, sisters? Who do they like? Why? What do they despise about their siblings?
She has three older sisters and one older brother, and she generally got along fine with each of them. Her brother Jinta’a however was easily the closest of them, and he tended to be her go-to support when she was in need of comfort. Her sisters were much older and she never developed a super close bond with them.
4. What type of discipline was your character subjected to at home? Strict? Lenient?
Mostly lenient, though as she got older her mother tried to treat her more strictly. This only caused the rift between them to grow more, however.
5. Were they overprotected as a child? Sheltered?
Her mother was a tad overprotective of her when she was small, but life as a poacher meant she was hardly sheltered for long. Each member of the clan was expected to pull their weight, and young Tahla was incredibly eager to join in the hunts.
6. Did they feel rejection or affection as a child?
An abundance of affection. Being the youngest child in her small clan, she was basically treated like a little princess to be spoiled and doted upon endlessly.
7. What was the economic status of their family?
They got by well enough, though coin was never much of a motivating factor for them. They preferred a nomadic life of hunting (and poaching) and used those skills to sustain themselves and barter for any other necessities. Anything beyond that was a bit too lavish, in their eyes.
8. How does your character feel about religion?
Believes in the Twelve, and is a particularly devout follower of Menphina and Oschon. She’s quite private about this side of herself and will usually seek out solitude when offering prayers.
9. What about political beliefs?
Politics is an odd subject to her; generally too much dancing around words and red tape for her liking. Growing up outside the realm of the city-states, she’s always seen politics as something that doesn’t involve her and so she’ll tend to ignore it. The one exception is her strong dislike of Gridanian politics, mostly when it comes to their reverence of the Elementals.
10. Is your character street-smart, book-smart, intelligent, intellectual, slow-witted?
Street-smart, if anything. She lacks a proper education and a more formal learning environment has always bored her, so academics are certainly her weakness. She prefers skills that are immediately applicable to her day-to day life, so book-smarts always seemed particularly useless to her.
11. How do they see themselves: as smart, as intelligent, uneducated?
Uneducated, and she’d argue with any who used that as an excuse to call her unintelligent. Despite that, she can on occasion get rather self-conscious about that fact when spending time with some of her more learned peers. She’s mostly illiterate, which is the one facet of her limited education that she is deeply embarrassed about. She tries her best to hide that from those she knows.
12. How does their education and intelligence – or lack thereof - reflect in their speech pattern, vocabulary, and pronunciations?
With her more recent years spent doing work for the adventurer’s guilds across the city states, Tahla tends to speak a bit more like one from the city, but the backbone of her speech patterns still tilt more towards rural Shroud speech. Her illiteracy results in a somewhat narrow spread in her vocabulary, which is a fault she’s been trying to work on. Trying, being the key word.
16. What does your character do for a living? How do they see their profession? What do they like about it? Dislike?
In the past she was a hunter/poacher in the Shroud. She romanticized and loved every moment of it, despite the occasional spats with the local Wood Wailers. She misses it dearly, but is conflicted about returning to a life of hunting in the Shroud without her family. Presently, she spends her days as an Adventurer, taking on whatever odd jobs come her way, though she tends to gravitate toward those that might make use of her skills in hunting, tracking, or stealth.
17. Did they travel? Where? Why? When?
During the youth she traveled throughout the Black Shroud, primarily sticking to the north and western regions, with occasional visits to Gridania. After the calamity, she spend a little less than a year amongst the other orphans in Gridania before being taken in by a family friend in Ul’dah. Beyond that, her new occupation as an adventurer took her throughout Eorzea.
18. What did they find abroad, and what did they remember?
On the practical side of things: learned of adventuring and how to put her natural stealth and tracking abilities to other uses while in Ul’dah, and learned how to refine her admittedly rough fighting skills from some unsavory types in Limsa. More broadly, she learned that the world was a much bigger and *much* more varied place than her life in the Shroud had led her to believe.
19. What were your character’s deepest disillusions? In life? What are they now?
Her trust in the kindness of strangers was essentially shattered when it was revealed that the above mentioned family friend from Ul’dah had taken her in primarily to use her as leverage against her aunt, who owed him money. However, when all his efforts in tracking the woman down came to naught, he instead settled for having Tahla work off the debt in her stead.
20. What were the most deeply impressive political or social, national or international, events that they experienced?
The c a l a m i t y. That basically turned her world upside down after she was separated from the few members of her family who survived the incident. Also, if we’re talking about WoL-Tahla, the Bloody Banquet and betrayal of the Crystal Braves and everything that followed, basically. It’s a big reminder of why she hates politics and hates being involved in other people’s fights. She gets treated more and more like a tool and despises it.
21. What are your character’s manners like? What is their type of hero? Whom do they hate?
Manners are… somewhat lacking. She’ll climb on furniture, put her feet up on tables when lounging around, unabashedly look through other peoples things when she thinks they aren’t looking. She’s a very hands-on sort of person and will get in people’s personal space without a second thought. Despite that, it’s rare that she’s intentionally rude, and she does try to be kind to those she meets, if only reservedly so at first. As for heroes, there is no one Tahla idolizes more than her aunt Rekha—a very outgoing, brash, and unapologetic hunter. She would not take insult or injury (to either herself or her family) lying down and was incredibly ruthless to anyone deemed her enemy. Tahla takes a lot after her, though thanks to the guidance of her mother and brother, she’s stepped back from some of her aunt’s more bloodthirsty qualities. Her hatred is reserved mostly for the Elementals, the Wood Wailers, basically anyone who might get on her case about poaching—Tahla is quite sanctimonious about Miqo’te hunters being part of the natural order and their right “to hunt anywhere they damn well please.”
22. Who are their friends? Lovers? ‘Type’ or ‘ideal’ partner?
While she gravitates toward the rowdier sort of people most of the time, she’s come to deeply appreciate the way the calm and quiet sort of friends can mellow her out, especially when she’s having a rough time sorting through some her darker feelings. She’s very touchy-feely with her friends, and will quite often run up to greet them with an unprompted hug. As for lovers… she has eyes only for women and tends to gravitate toward other Miqo’te most of the time, but she doesn’t have a particular type. She assumes that sort of relationship should develop naturally and simply keeps an open mind for it.
23. What do they want from a partner? What do they think and feel of sex?
Someone who can bring balance and stability to her life, someone fun to be around. See the above, I guess? Sex is good, she’s a little more casual about it than she’d readily admit.
24. What social groups and activities does your character attend? What role do they like to play? What role do they actually play, usually?
#justadventurerthings with her buds in both FCs. And I know this questionnaire wasn’t intended for video game characters, but we’re gonna take that last one a bit literally here: when doing Dangerous Adventurer Things, she’s good and being sneaky and dealing damage.
25. What are their hobbies and interests?
Tahla has a (somewhat) secret passion for fashion. Had her life gone a bit differently post-calamity, she probably would have liked to design and create clothing.
26. What does your character’s home look like? Personal taste? Clothing? Hair? Appearance?
Home is simply furnished and decorated with as many plants as she can reasonably care for. Give her a place to sleep and a cozy fire and she’s set. Her apartment is a bit messy, with books tossed about haphazardly—she impulsively bought a ton of books with the idea of brute-forcing her way into learning how to read. It’s going about as well as you’d imagine, and her frustration is evident in the scattered tomes. She prefers loose clothing that’s easy to move around in to fit her active lifestyle. Often wears a scarf or bandana over the lower half of her face—a holdover from her time in the Shroud. She kept her hair longer when she was younger, but prefers shorter styles these days. Pale-skinned with even paler freckles dusting her cheeks. Mismatched eyes—one deep blue, the other gold. A few scars here and there, most notable among them the one below her left eye and one on her right thigh.
27. How do they relate to their appearance? How do they wear their clothing? Style? Quality?
She’s a bit meticulous about her appearance. Tries to keep her clothing in working order for as long as possible.
28. Who is your character’s mate? How do they relate to him or her? How did they make their choice?
N/a, though she did have 1 somewhat lengthy and serious relationship during her time in Ul’dah. They were very close, had a lot of secrets, but eventually realized they wanted different things in life and mutually broke it off.
29. What is your character’s weaknesses? Hubris? Pride? Controlling?
She’s incredibly proud of her skills and her heritage, both of which have gotten her in trouble depending on present company.
30. Are they holding on to something in the past? Can he or she forgive?
She gets real fucked up when she thinks about the calamity (she basically goes MIA during The Rising), refusing to fully accept the impact it had on her life, and as a result she can’t move on to a more steady and permanent lifestyle. Holds past encounters against the Wood Wailers as a whole and absolutely refuses to forgive the lot of them.
31. Does your character have children? How do they feel about their parental role? About the children? How do the children relate?
No children, though she wouldn’t mind having some one day.
32. How does your character react to stress situations? Defensively? Aggressively? Evasively?
A mix of defensive and aggressive, though she’s been trending toward the latter in recent days.
33. Do they drink? Take drugs? What about their health?
Will drink occasionally, nothing much beyond that. In good health.
35. Do they always rationalize errors? How do they accept disasters and failures?
It takes her a while to come to terms with failures. She usually bottles up negative feelings about these sort of things until it hits the point where she has to face them.
36. Do they like to suffer? Like to see other people suffering?
Does not like suffering, nor the suffering of others… however she has been getting a lot more ruthless in dealing with her enemies. She’s quick to blame it on piling stresses. It’s something that she’s acutely becoming aware of, and its starting to frighten her.
37. How is your character’s imagination? Daydreaming a lot? Worried most of the time? Living in memories?
She’s not super imaginative, and tends to compartmentalize most of her worries. She does spend a lot of time longing for the good ol days of her youth.
38. Are they basically negative when facing new things? Suspicious? Hostile? Scared? Enthusiastic?
Suspicious, the level of which depends on how much other people are involved with the new thing. Will trend toward more enthusiastic if there is some level of familiarity to it.
39. What do they like to ridicule? What do they find stupid?
“Fuck the Elementals.” —Tahla Nhavan, 2kforever
40. How is their sense of humor? Do they have one?
She enjoys the odd practical joke here and there, but otherwise is sort of blunt with her humor.
41. Is your character aware of who they are? Strengths? Weaknesses? Idiosyncrasies? Capable of self-irony?
She’s aware of her strengths and weaknesses, though the latter is something she’ll rarely admit to. Not really contemplative enough for self-irony.
42. What does your character want most? What do they need really badly, compulsively? What are they willing to do, to sacrifice, to obtain?
She just wants a simple life. Sometimes she has the lofty idea of Doing The Right Thing, but her idea of right and wrong, as well as her methods to go about doing it, wouldn’t necessarily be agreed upon by others.
43. Does your character have any secrets? If so, are they holding them back?
Her illiteracy, for one. She’s too stubborn about it to actually ask someone for help, but she’s learned to work around it. On a much more serious note, one thing she hasn’t told a soul about is that she has an EXTREME fear of suffocating/choking due to an Incident when she was around 11.
44. How badly do they want to obtain their life objectives? How do they pursue them?
Her only real goal is the nebulous idea of returning to a simple life of hunting, but since that requires moving on and learning to let people get close to her again, she basically doesn’t pursue it at all.
45. Is your character pragmatic? Think first? Responsible? All action? A visionary? Passionate? Quixotic?
Pragmatic, though can be somewhat impulsive depending on the situation. Tries to think things out when she can, but seldom has the patience for it when she’s in the thick of things.
46. Is your character tall? Short? What about size? Weight? Posture? How do they feel about their physical body?
Rather short, wiry build, decent posture. She’s fine with her body.
47. Do they want to project an image of a younger, older, more important person? Does they want to be visible or invisible?
She’s fine with her appearance as is, though she does kind of prefer to fade into the background unless she’s around familiar folks.
48. How are your character’s gestures? Vigorous? Weak? Controlled? Compulsive? Energetic? Sluggish?
Lively and energetic most of the time, more subdued and controlled when she’s focused on a task.
49. What about voice? Pitch? Strength? Tempo and rhythm of speech? Pronunciation? Accent?
TBH I mostly just imagine her in-game voice. Moderate tempo, somewhat soft spoken. If anything, her pronunciation/accent might peg her as someone from the rural Shroud, to discerning ears.
50. What are the prevailing facial expressions? Sour? Cheerful? Dominating?
Neutral, bordering cheerful, perhaps? Can look sort of… intense when she’s focused. Generally she prefers a mask because she doesn’t like it when others can read her easily.
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Trump rage-tweets Google alleging search ‘bias’
While several tech giants have found themselves in President Trump’s crosshairs since he took office, he has just unleashed what looks to be his most sustained attack on Google to date — firing off a couple of tweets at ~5.30am Washington DC time to rail against what he claims is algorithmic bias in the results the search engine serves up if someone types in “Trump News”.
No, the president did not use the four-syllable word “algorithmic”. But presumably he hadn’t even inhaled his first Coke of the day yet.
In his rage tweets, Trump makes the specific allegation that “96% of results on “Trump News” are from National Left-Wing Media”, without citing his source for the claimed datapoint. He then makes the further unsubstantiated claim that: “Google & others are suppressing voices of Conservatives and hiding information and news that is good.”
The Guardian suggests the 96% claim is a reference to an article posted at the weekend by the website PJ Media whose self-described “not-scientific” study of the top 100 Google News results for the search term “Trump” apparently suggested “a pattern of bias against right-leaning content”.
Trump ends the pair of tweets with a warning that the “situation will be addressed” — without specifying exactly what he plans to do. Which is pretty much trademark Trump Twitter policy-on-the-hoofing. Even as the wider political context around his administration, with whispers of impeachment in the air, implies that any loud public complaints by Trump about negative headlines related to himself are an attempt to distract attention from the legal hot waters now boiling around him. But whatevs.
Here are the tweets in all their rage-filled glory:
Google search results for “Trump News” shows only the viewing/reporting of Fake New Media. In other words, they have it RIGGED, for me & others, so that almost all stories & news is BAD. Fake CNN is prominent. Republican/Conservative & Fair Media is shut out. Illegal? 96% of…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 28, 2018
….results on “Trump News” are from National Left-Wing Media, very dangerous. Google & others are suppressing voices of Conservatives and hiding information and news that is good. They are controlling what we can & cannot see. This is a very serious situation-will be addressed!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 28, 2018
We’ve reached out to Google for comment. Update: The company has now emailed us a statement rebutting any suggestion that its search results are biased and/or manipulated to reflect any political sentiment.
A Google spokesperson told us:
When users type queries into the Google Search bar, our goal is to make sure they receive the most relevant answers in a matter of seconds. Search is not used to set a political agenda and we don’t bias our results toward any political ideology. Every year, we issue hundreds of improvements to our algorithms to ensure they surface high-quality content in response to users’ queries. We continually work to improve Google Search and we never rank search results to manipulate political sentiment.
Ironically, testing out a search for “Trump News” after Trump’s Google flaming tweets, I was served the below result, with the well-known right wing news organization Fox News bagging the very first result in the Top Stories slot, so er…
It’s unclear whether Trump is aware that Google search results can vary depending on the individual doing the searching. And, well, if Trump is seeing lots of bad news about himself (when he searches for news about himself) let’s just say we’re sure that Freud would have had a field day unpicking the knotted implications of Trump having such navel-gazing obsession with news sources he continually professes to hate and claims are “fake”. But, again, whatevs.
Of course most of what Trump is claiming here is flagrant nonsense — especially as his cancerous catchphrase of ‘fake news’ gets liberally slapped on anything he disagrees with, regardless of whether it’s true or not.
But one thing he’s saying is more or less true: Google is arguably “controlling what we can & cannot see”, given the company has a dominant share of the search market in the West (and a massively dominant one in Europe), and that most Internet users will never click beyond page one of the search results it serves. Or even browse beyond the top few results.
So, essentially, the hierarchies of information that Google’s algorithms create can and do surface or sediment information. Or, in other words, if it’s not on page one of Google it’s barely there.
Another example of Google’s power over what can and cannot be seen: In Europe, in recent years, the company now selectively de-indexes certain search results related to individuals on request (after it has reviewed a request and made a decision), in order to comply with a legal ruling by the EU’s top court (the so-called ‘right to be forgotten‘) — making it less likely that a specific data-point about a non-public individual will be broadly visible in the region.
The fact that a single company has such power over the accessibility of information (and potential to shape opinion) should concern us.
Especially as Google’s algorithmic engines are proprietary black boxes and there is no or little independent oversight of whether its information shaping is fair or even appropriate. (Again in Europe the company has been charged with promoting its own products in shopping related searches over and above rivals — and has had to make changes to the product search results it displays to comply with the antitrust ruling, though it disputes and is legally appealing the regulator’s decision.)
So Trump has at least correctly identified that Google can and does wield huge power via the popularity of its information retrieval platform.
Even as the claim he’s also selectively, self-interestedly amplifying — i.e. ‘96% biased’ — is entirely unsubstantiated, having been based on a single non-scientific survey carried out by an American conservative news blog. So judge appropriately.
Above that, the notion that any commercial company in the West, let alone one so prominent and mainstream as Google, would knowingly and systematically embed political bias into its algorithms to make them less useful for a very large swathe of its potential users is, frankly, ridiculous.
If anything, tech platforms tend to have the opposite problem; They serve up too tightly personalized stuff, risking shrinking users’ ideological horizons by feeding people a political mono-diet. (Which may help explain the Trump phenomenon itself, but I digress.)
Nonetheless, the president has continued to make tech firms his Twitter punchbags. Just last month, for example, he accused Twitter of “shadow banning” Republican users. A claim the company quickly denied, writing: “We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.”
Safe to say, as the headlines about Trump get worse Trump’s rage will grow and the tweets will surely flow.
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While several tech giants have found themselves in President Trump’s crosshairs since he took office, he has just unleashed what looks to be his most sustained attack on Google to date — firing off a couple of tweets at ~5.30am Washington DC time to rail against what he claims is algorithmic bias in the results the search engine serves up if someone types in “Trump News”.
No, the president did not use the four-syllable word “algorithmic”. But presumably he hadn’t even inhaled his first Coke of the day yet.
In his rage tweets, Trump makes the specific allegation that “96% of results on “Trump News” are from National Left-Wing Media”, without citing his source for the claimed datapoint. He then makes the further unsubstantiated claim that: “Google & others are suppressing voices of Conservatives and hiding information and news that is good.”
The Guardian suggests the 96% claim is a reference to an article posted at the weekend by the website PJ Media whose self-described “not-scientific” study of the top 100 Google News results for the search term “Trump” apparently suggested “a pattern of bias against right-leaning content”.
Trump ends the pair of tweets with a warning that the “situation will be addressed” — without specifying exactly what he plans to do. Which is pretty much trademark Trump Twitter policy-on-the-hoofing. Even as the wider political context around his administration, with whispers of impeachment in the air, implies that any loud public complaints by Trump about negative headlines related to himself are an attempt to distract attention from the legal hot waters now boiling around him. But whatevs.
Here are the tweets in all their rage-filled glory:
Google search results for “Trump News” shows only the viewing/reporting of Fake New Media. In other words, they have it RIGGED, for me & others, so that almost all stories & news is BAD. Fake CNN is prominent. Republican/Conservative & Fair Media is shut out. Illegal? 96% of…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 28, 2018
….results on “Trump News” are from National Left-Wing Media, very dangerous. Google & others are suppressing voices of Conservatives and hiding information and news that is good. They are controlling what we can & cannot see. This is a very serious situation-will be addressed!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 28, 2018
We’ve reached out to Google for comment.
Ironically, testing out a search for “Trump News” after Trump’s Google flaming tweets, I was served the below result, with the well-known right wing news organization Fox News bagging the very first result in the Top Stories slot, so er…
It’s unclear whether Trump is aware that Google search results can vary depending on the individual doing the searching. And, well, if Trump is seeing lots of bad news about himself (when he searches for news about himself) let’s just say we’re sure that Freud would have had a field day unpicking the knotted implications of Trump having such navel-gazing obsession with news sources he continually professes to hate and claims are “fake”. But, again, whatevs.
Of course most of what Trump is claiming here is flagrant nonsense — especially as his cancerous catchphrase of ‘fake news’ gets liberally slapped on anything he disagrees with, regardless of whether it’s true or not.
But one thing he’s saying is more or less true: Google is arguably “controlling what we can & cannot see”, given the company has a dominant share of the search market in the West (and a massively dominant one in Europe), and that most Internet users will never click beyond page one of the search results it serves. Or even browse beyond the top few results.
So, essentially, the hierarchies of information that Google’s algorithms create can and do surface or sediment information. Or, in other words, if it’s not on page one of Google it’s barely there.
Another example of Google’s power over what can and cannot be seen: In Europe, in recent years, the company now selectively de-indexes certain search results related to individuals on request (after it has reviewed a request and made a decision), in order to comply with a legal ruling by the EU’s top court (the so-called ‘right to be forgotten‘) — making it less likely that a specific data-point about a non-public individual will be broadly visible in the region.
The fact that a single company has such power over the accessibility of information (and potential to shape opinion) should concern us.
Especially as Google’s algorithmic engines are proprietary black boxes and there is no or little independent oversight of whether its information shaping is fair or even appropriate. (Again in Europe the company has been charged with promoting its own products in shopping related searches over and above rivals — and has had to make changes to the product search results it displays to comply with the antitrust ruling, though it disputes and is legally appealing the regulator’s decision.)
So Trump has at least correctly identified that Google can and does wield huge power via the popularity of its information retrieval platform.
Even as the claim he’s also selectively, self-interestedly amplifying — i.e. ‘96% biased’ — is entirely unsubstantiated, having been based on a single non-scientific survey carried out by an American conservative news blog. So judge appropriately.
Above that, the notion that any commercial company in the West, let alone one so prominent and mainstream as Google, would knowingly and systematically embed political bias into its algorithms to make them less useful for a very large swathe of its potential users is, frankly, ridiculous.
If anything, tech platforms tend to have the opposite problem; They serve up too tightly personalized stuff, risking shrinking users’ ideological horizons by feeding people a political mono-diet. (Which may help explain the Trump phenomenon itself, but I digress.)
Nonetheless, the president has continued to make tech firms his Twitter punchbags. Just last month, for example, he accused Twitter of “shadow banning” Republican users. A claim the company quickly denied, writing: “We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). And we certainly don’t shadow ban based on political viewpoints or ideology.”
Safe to say, as the headlines about Trump get worse Trump’s rage will grow and the tweets will surely flow.
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