#now I can continue shipping Marsellie/Helsinki in peace uwu

[roccinan]

Okay so first of all hi!

Second, I have something I HAVE to point out.

So in Ep 2, THAT EP,

When they show that whole Berlermo sequence everyone's going nuts about?

Which I would also like to point out btw, that it's so cute and I want to go Berlermo!!! But also let's not foget Martín is very touchy with everyone (he kinda touches foreheads and hugs and jumps on a lot of other people not only Andrés. Which also, you know how there's that stereotype that we latinos are like easy and slutty? I believe that comes from the fact that we are much more touchy-feely than other cultures and sometimes it comes across as amorous, and flirty and stuff like that🤷‍♀️).

And apart from that (at least in the part of latinoamerica where I'm from) that whole thing they do in that scene can be seen also as shows of affection between close bffs (that's the kind of excilarated dumb shit I myself have done with my bff, including the jumping on cause he's like a full head taller than most people so he's always carrying people around). So yes I adore those Berlermo scenes but for me they are not THAT MUCH indicative of anything as everyone else seems to think🤷‍♀️ (like yes, obviously the whole Martín being in love with Andrés and the 'soulmates' bit gives that scene a certain undertone, obviously, there's no arguing that. But if they were to be just two totally heterosexual best friends, that scene wouldn't seem weird or out of place either, just two bffs celebrating. Which gives Andrés like plausible deniability or whatever, dude's in fucking denial I won't argue that).

But that's not my point, so whatever. What I came to ramble about is this (also excuse the low quality pics, it's the best I could do):

In that scene we first see this:

Then we see this:

Then this:

Followed by this:

And finally this:

And this:

Now, you can't tell me that's not kinda like a parallel. It's a parallel, which is all good and fine (as I said. Normal shows of affection between bffs).

EXCEPT THAT BECAUSE OF YOU NO!

Why? Well, I'll tell ya why. Fucking Pagotá, that's why.

And that's entirely your fault.

So obviously, with that lil parallel my brain went😏😏😏, and now I'm in the process of writting another Pagotá fic which I don't even know if I'll finish (am like 1500 words in already😑).

All this to say, thanks a lot Rocinan. This is your fault and I hate you♥️.

Hi hi!! Always happy to scream about s5 (AND PAGOTA!!) together.

re: the first point: I love it too, and the way it was framed was so moving, like honestly such a fantastic parallel with "the love of a man" and "the love of a plan," and the fact that the plan worked definitely means requited romance in this lifetime or not, the undeniable love between them was real :') that ep gifted us with so much so much asdfasdf For me, it was the narrative framing that made my heart sing for this ep.

But you're right about Martin! As lovely as those moments are, now that you've pointed out how commonplace their body language is in Latinoamerica, the posturing(?) alone doesn't mean they're more than friends or fucking or anything (yet lmao). (But I think we can say that the framing of it was very pro-berlermo haha!) And it's always nice when "heterosexual best friends" are comfortable enough to casually touch each other like that without going no homo! every 5 seconds. I think that's a very lovely thing you have :)

(haha, the touchy-feely vibe is kind of the opposite of my culture (and a few other East Asian cultures), where even in het dramas, a forehead touch means this couple is official, married, and probably having sex that same night. So all the berlermo touchy-feeelyness this volume honestly blew me away!)

NOW, the main point of your ask asdasdfs OMG I literally had the exact same thought when watching it. I could not believe my eyes, they really paralleled the berlermo hugs with Pagota ones. tbh, I was mentally bracing myself for berlermo parallels with another ship, but was rewarded with Pagota instead. The whole Palermo-Bogota friendship had so much depth this overall season, and it just kept getting better. After berlermo, I'd say Bogota is now definitely who I'd want Martin to end up with. And Pagota endgame actually works?? Even in the finale, they were standing side-by-side.

so anyway, YOU'RE WELCOME, and love you too. I accept all blame uwu Pagota superiority!!

And I can't believe you're already 1500 words into a new Pagota fic!! That's so fast, and I cannot wait to read it! (Also remember when I promised you a Pagota fic too? I'll get on that after secret santa! This volume brought us so much new Pagota content!)