#not that they weren’t good at acting but the chemistry test just wasn’t there imo like his antagonist role is doing fine bc he has the look
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juminsfakecat · 10 months ago
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ji changwook as a pathetic heart of gold ex-boyfriend and shin hyesun as a goofy optimistic female lead going through a hard time? can’t believe there was a show made for just ME
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msookyspooky · 3 years ago
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Random Headcanon's for the Scream Character's
Billy really was a normal sweet kid and a good boyfriend before his mom left. Everyone paints him as always being crazy and his mom just triggered him but I honestly don't think that's true. Sidney and her parents would not have been okay with her dating a bad boy from Sophomore year onward. Sure it happens and maybe she saw past it but If Sidney would have seen how Billy acted with Randy in the videostore; instant break up imo. He could not have hid that side of himself for two years straight. Remember, they were dating a whole year prior to Maureen cheating. My theory is he may or may not have had a 'side' to him or other undiagnosed disorder in his gene pool (Mrs Loomis snapping too.) but Billy's psychotic breakdown was mostly situational + groomed by Roman and there were other things in his life that probably were boiling over and Debbie leaving him completely broke him. So, he was in an extremely vulnerable state when Roman came around and molded him. THAT is why Sidney trusted him so much in Scream before the phone incident and even somewhat after. Because Billy was a good boyfriend before her mom's murder and she would have never suspected it. Now how her or no one else could see him tumbling into madness or at least deep depression before Roman sank his talons in is beyond me. Maybe she did and he shrugged her off? Either way, the situation made him shut down all empathy towards other people and changed him. His empathy is towards his mom, possibly his dad since Hank never died and that is it. He has symptoms of a psychopath and even though that is usually genetic I 100% think a psychotic breakdown could do it as well.(Don't come for me bitch I'm not trained in any of this just using what I know from research 🧍‍♀️) If his mom never left and Roman didn't come along; Billy would have never been a killer
Contrary to Billy's situational psychological crazyness. Stu was always going to kill. I don't even think it's is he a sociopath vs a psychopath argument as much as he is just disconnected from reality. (Though he would most likely be a Sociopath if he was bc of his lack of boundaries as well impulsive behavior. Thinking killing was a game.) Stu possibly suffered abuse as a child. He was terrified of his parents more than the law. Either A. They abused him and permanently terrified him. Or B. He really has a stunted mentality and thinks of killing as a game and fears his parents more than the law bc the consequences are just not clicking LIKE A KID. He's like a giant little kid with no sense of how things work. He still could have been abused and that is what stunted his growth mentally. However, his violent tendacies were always there. Never preplanned just urgent anger or sadistic glee he couldn't control. Billy just suggested the killings and he was instantly down. Like, hell yeah cool. Most ppl no matter what mental illness they have or how severe are not that easy to convince. Whose to say he hadn't killed before or was planning to? My theory is he is so disconnected from reality that killing really is a giant fun game to him and he would have eventually murdered someone even without Billy.
Idk why this isn't more thought of throughout the fandom. Billy and Stu did not rape Maureen bc the evidence would have pointed to someone other than the guy they were framing. Cotton Weary had sex with Maureen, left, Billy and Stu taunted her on the phone and lured her away, they killed her, police suspected rape bc A. they didn't know about the affairs. B. Cotton's semen or her discharge or bruising being there. They naturally assumed it was rape but in actuality no one raped her. Cotton's dna from their affair incriminated him even more. Not saying that Billy and Stu would think of rape as morally wrong enough not to do in their book BUT it would have been stupid on their part and made it obvious there were other suspects besides Cotton.
Stu isn't a lapdog. Stu literally revealed on the phone he was going to throw Billy under the bus. He hesitated giving him the knife. Stu is like a kid. He most likely suffered trauma that regressed his mental age. He's eager to please, desperate for attention and most likely fawns over people he feels close to in an obsessive way. He could have even been in love with Billy and vice versa which is why he was so eager to please him. However, he was not nearly as stupid or a lapdog as much as the fandom makes him out to be. I think Randy saying it in the videostore sealed the deal for people even though he was only acting like that bc he was helping Billy too and covering their tracks. Billy was the one with the plan. Stu just tagged along out of the urge to kill. But he 100% had his own plan to kill and bail if needed. My mind is made up on that.
There was a third killer in Scream and it wasn't a teen or Roman. You're telling me two 17-18 yr old guys could come up with every detail? Roman only told Billy the basics. How did they get tactical police shoes? How did they get to the houses so fast and leave just as quickly? How did they both take down and restrain Steve or Neil by themselves enough to tie them up? Sure, Stu was deranged and tall but these two lanky teens were able to take on a football player with muscles and a grown man? Possible but stil meh to me. Their plan was too thorough for two teen boys to come up with on their own. Both crazy. One completely unhinged and disconnected from reality and the other so blinded by revenge he was stupid at times. (Fucking stabbing yourselves before killing Neil and Sidney. Not even thinking to AT LEAST tie Sidney up as well...Really? Jill was smarter in 4 in that respect tbh.) I truly think their was an adult involved in Scream helping them or guiding them. I would say Roman if it wasn't for him going back to Hollywood. But Billy and Stu had help DURING the killings 100%.
Randy is not this mecha survival final boy like the fandom thinks. The kid watched one too many horror movies and based them on real life. Scream itself is making fun of slasher movies and Randy was supposed to be the narrator setting most of the dumb rules up into play. Everyone is like "omg that's so out of character how he died in 2" no its not. If the rules work then him losing his virginity did him in. He was drinking, he was pissed off and not thinking. Plus Mrs. Loomis attacked in broad daylight, something no one thought of. (And the whole debate how a middle aged woman could pull him in. LOOK. Randy is a fucking small guy and she grabbed him backwards, using momentum to haul him back into the van. PLUS she was enraged at what he said about Billy. Adrenaline is a hell of a super drug as far as testing the bodies limits. I have seen tiny girls become the hulk when they are pissed I'm jus sayin) Point is, Randy was just a teen boy that loved horror movies. He was not some survival guide especially since it showed him even on the couch not aware of Ghostface behind him. He was a giant satire showing how even he didn't always follow the rules of slasher movies and how dumb the rules are.
Tatum loved Sidney and had more chemistry with her than Billy. I am not saying they weren't just BFF's and I don't want to ruin female friendship with constantly thinking "omg they are gay together" any time two women are close. BUT it is strange that it was only those two as friends especially since Sidney didn't fit into Tatum's popular social circle. It's like Tatum went out of her way to be friends with Sidney. Maybe they were childhood friends and that's why? But I think it's entirely possible that just like it's speculated that Stu and Billy were secretly in love; Tatum possibly was at least bi and in love with Sidney.
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lol-jackles · 4 years ago
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I was thinking about scene stealers actors and what you said about them working best with more interesting characters. On SPN, they gave Dean almost all connections with other characters and it didn't always work for the show's benefit, very much a hit and miss kind of thing imo. I wondered at that, because Dean and Castiel, just like Dean and Jack, had really shitty chemistry, and yet they decided to end Sam & Jack relationship in favor of Dean & Jack. Jack was an interesting character, but their scenes felt very forced and boring. Can actors overcome lack of chemistry?
Dean’s purpose with the side characters was not to steal their scenes lol, Dean was supporting their stories, which honestly is a shitty thing to do to his character and one of the few things I agree with the AAs.  See their old petition to stop using Dean as a “reactive sponge to Sam’s life choices” and give Dean an actual story arc.
Dean + side character = insight into side character
Sam + side character = insight into Sam
As you can see, these interactions are usually not about Dean.  Sam girls generally loves Dean because he supports Sam’s story and provide insights into him.
Dean and Cas used to have good chemistry back when Cas was still an interesting character.  When Cas got demoted to plot device in season 7 and ceased to be interesting, that’s when their chemistry suffered and their scenes became insufferable because *repeat after me* Jensen’s scene stealing talent only works when the other actor is playing an interesting character.  When Jensen was in Smallville most of his character’s scene was with Lana Lang, a pretty but boring character and as a result Jason Teague was unmemorable at best, insufferable at worse.  Jensen’s acting didn’t change from Smallville to Supernatural but the difference is Jensen’s character got to react to a better protagonist, Sam.
Dean and Jack happened because they were building up their relationship for the sole purpose of tearing it down when Jack accidentally kills Mary.  Their chemistry suffered because their relationship wasn’t developed organically as they weren’t driving the plot, the plot was driving them (towards Mary’s death).  They can’t have Sam and Jack have a falling out so it had to be Dean and Jack.  Dean and Jack had a more believable relationship in season 15 because this time their characters were driving the plot.
So to answer your question, no, actors can’t overcome lack of chemistry and why chemistry tests between actors during auditions are so damn important.
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lightsandlostbells · 6 years ago
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what would be your ranking of each season? (love your all your recaps btw, they have given me insight to stuff I didn't notice before and made appreciate s3 a lot more)
Thank you so much! ❤️❤️❤️ Gonna put my ranking of Skam’s seasons under a read-more since I go into some criticisms and I’m long-winded as always:
1. Season 3. Probably obvious from my recaps, lol. Literally everything about it not just works, but soars. Like I remember watching in real time and expecting the show to stumble at some point, because even shows I love generally have aspects that I don’t care for. And instead this season kept ascending. The acting is top notch and the chemistry between Isak and Even is really something special. The writing is tight and nuanced - no scene feels unnecessary, and the use of symbolism is excellent. The music is perfectly chosen. They did some of the best social media work this season. You can tell Julie put so much thought into this story for a long time. It has no major flaws for me, like I can only think of one quibble and it’s more of a “I wish they did that” instead of something that really cuts into my enjoyment of the story. I feel totally OK saying S3 is a fucking masterpiece because I can prove it (I mean, art is subjective, lmao, but if you asked me to defend this season artistically I would have zero problem.) 2. Season 1. Also amazing. It’s more low-key and understated; I can see why people would find it slow, especially in the beginning. But I love it. Eva’s journey is raw and deeply personal. Lisa Teige is fantastic and makes Eva warm and sympathetic. She’s so natural and pulls you right into Eva’s struggles. (I can respect that remake Evas have worked better for some people, but I will go to the mat for original Eva. She’s incredible.) The themes of the season are established well and tell a story that often feels overlooked. There are a lot of subtleties about navigating relationships as a teenage girl and feeling adrift, and some truly gorgeous scenes. In some ways this is a “test” season but it’s still powerful, well-acted, and well-written, with a lot of Julie’s vision for the show apparent from the start. Adore it.3. Season 4. So while I prefer S4 to S2, in some ways I think S2 is better as a narrative. S4 suffers from a lack of focus, and S2, whatever you think of Noorhelm, has that story to anchor it and not drift too much. S4 would have benefited from a tighter story rather than trying to wrap everything up, because we ended up with like 3-4 storylines and none of them had a completely satisfying conclusion, IMO.  Iman Meskini was wonderful this season and much of the good qualities of S4 were from watching her get to shine. The Sana/Yousef relationship, what we did get of it, was fantastic and made for many of S4′s best scenes. However, it was only one part of the plot, and other parts weren’t as engaging. Too much time spent on the bus and Pepsi Max girls who no one cared about. Filler scenes. I don’t think Even needed to be a major part of the story but I disliked the way his mental illness was portrayed in S4, especially after S3 did a good job with it. Overall I think Julie made less interesting choices for drama when there were more obvious ones that would have made for a richer story - for instance, the Noora/Yousef plot was a shallow conflict that could have been resolved with one conversation, and took time away from the real conflict for Sana and Yousef, which was being an interfaith relationship, an issue that has no neat resolution or “right” answer but would make for tons of complex drama and dialogue (as it did when it was the focus). Or how the bus storyline focused on Sara and Pepsi Max when we could have focused on Sana and Vilde’s relationship and their clashing over the bus, which would have been way more interesting. 4. Season 2. I’m not going to go into a full breakdown of it but my main issue is that some of S2′s positive messages and good qualities are undermined by other aspects of the story that are like … direct contradictions. You can probably guess how I feel about Noorhelm. Even outside of Noorhelm, though, William as a character needs a rewrite because I feel like we know barely anything about him as a person? Not what has happened to him but who he is, like what does this guy even like to do in his free time, what are his interests, what are his goals? He’s also weirdly endorsed by the narrative even when it doesn’t make sense (like why is Sana stumping for him and breaking down William’s reasons for smashing a bottle over his head when … she doesn’t know him at all … how would she know … ) The pacing of this season can drag. The Yakuza storyline feels like something out of Riverdale or Gossip Girl rather than Skam and is also underdeveloped (William: totally has good reasons for fighting and Noora needs to understand his motivations, we need to see other’s POVs because war starts from misunderstandings and prejudice. But those Yakuza guys are just violent nameless punks beating up people for the hell of it, don’t think too much about it.) I felt like Noora’s personal arc is not that clear other than falling for William and choosing to be with him - it’s not like with Eva or Isak where they had clear arcs and personal development regardless of their love interest. Or well, I think she has some personal development but a lot of the later episode big drama comes from William having to make choices, not Noora, so it felt like less of her story in the end. Even with Sana whose story is also muddled and whose arc wasn’t handled as well as it could have been, there was more of a personal journey outside of Yousef. Good things about the season: the girls, especially Noora and Vilde’s relationship, the handling of Noora’s assault for the most part, Eskild and Linn’s introduction. Some good symbolism and motifs. 
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