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Sons Of The Labyrinth or The Things Our Fathers Do To Us
#tentatively unprivating to post this...might have to private again if the bots attack#death //#icarus#minotaur#daedalus#comics#greek mythology#pulled out my old classic greek myths book to go over the mythology for this and man...#daedalus was kind of a piece of work huh#art tag
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The Oracles of Gotham;
Cursed to be all-knowing. Cursed never to be believed.
#been wondering what kind of fucked up shit babs has seen over the years on those monitors#cass is ofc inspired by the cursed prophet cassandra in greek mythology#my art#dc#dc comics#dc fanart#cassandra cain#barbara gordon#batgirl#dc oracle#batman#batfam
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POV: You're Anticlea and Laertes of Ithaca and your son came back from Sparta after swearing he was just going for politics
#Now he's carving a tree bed and apparently has to race her dad? Who you may kind of have beef with? :/#...At least he seems really really fucking happy :)#Water Wife#this is about Naiad Pen btw#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#Mad memes#penelope#penelope of ithaca#odypen#odysseus#odyssey#the odyssey#tagamemnon#greek mythology#anticlea#laertes#odysseus and penelope#odysseus x penelope#odysseus/penelope#this is funny. to me#my headcanons#join me in joyous whimsey :3#epic the musical
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Kinda want to learn more about military/war history but taking a look at my current interests (Greek mythology, the bible, f1 to an extent) seems like opening a can of worms
#shoutout to when i mentiojed to a classmate that i liked greek mythology and then he said haha me too#and then proceeded to show me the most racist brainrotted ww2 memes ive ever seen in my life#and i realized we are two fundamentally different people#i never want to give off that kind of vibes ever
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Found out this Saturday that if you make a PowerPoint to summarize one piece in over 24 hours on not-very-good-wifi, you can only summarize up to the end of Marineford and it will take about 2.5 hours
Also apparently if you speak nonstop for 2.5 hours your voice Will Go Hoarse. Who knew
#very glad I had friends willing to listen to me yap LMAO#part 2 happening supposedly sometime after the summer#whenever they’ll let me yap for 3 hours again….#This was a Fun event lmao#my friend who went before me gave an hour long presentation rating every kind of pasta#and I mean every kind.#I think he ended up with 150 some slides in the end#another highlight: my roommate gave a very unhinged presentation on Sanji and Greek mythology parallels
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Ker (keres, plural) goddess of violent death
it has come to my attention that when there is Thanatos, the god of gentle death, then there must be another personification of death but of the violent kind and i just found out that they're called the Keres. very shallow research later and i wanted Ker personified in hades game style fashion
took some liberties on how they've become a horde of battlefield body scavenging daughters of Nyx and Erebus, Night and Darkness, and made them all start from a single goddess (Ker) but violent deaths suddenly came at a surplus and so more help was needed hence the death-spirits known as Keres. These death-spirits are likened to the very first iteration of Ker so they're more savage with a single-minded focus and purpose. They did not inherit her capacity of speech nor for scavenging of little trinkets in battlefields.
#from what i've gathered Ker isn't really part of the house of hades???? and mostly closely work with the fates???#and i love the idea of gentle death announcing his coming and going bc most of the time ppl Do know when it's their time to die#but the keres descend upon you like a thief in the night as most violent deaths tend to occur which is without knowing#i also went with the combination of black hair with deep purple eyes since she came from night and darkness#and relishes in the realm of chaos so she's mostly void no starlight#thinking this up gave me all kinds of headcanons in-game lmao#hades#hades game#i don't think it's proper to tag this as greek mythology but keres isn't in the game either#keres#character design#my art#fanart#and a bit of zagthan in there#zagreus#thanatos
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I find it so funny how badly movie adaptations of Iliad always potray Helen's and Menelaus' relationship, cuz it's literally just:
Helen, according to movie directors: "My husband is so old, evil and ugly, I wish I could run away with hot young Paris who treats me like his queen"
Helen in Iliad:
#the iliad#iliad#greek mythology#homer#homer's iliad#menelaus#helen of troy#helen of sparta#helen x menelaus#i curse my old literature teacher for making me think that menelaus was some kind of evil villain for years#he a baddie but ppl wont accept it
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Kind of just general rendering/shading practice.
Legendary pokemon are legendary yes but before all of that they're animals living and breathing like the rest of us. All of the stories talking up these beasts make people forget that they're still mortal creatures.
#I think Monster Hunter has permanently ruined any kind of 'mythology' for me in a general sense.#Ruined isn't the right word for this.#Just with how MonHun characterizes their equivalent to Legendary Pokemon- I.E Elder Dragons#As just being stronger smarter and rarer animals but still being just animals.#I enjoy that a lot.#my art#pokemon#rayquaza#lmao
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MUDBLOOD
#Sebastian is very violence-tolerant but fortunately he understands why Ida felt like this#at this point Ida finally realized that not only monsters and other mythological creatures are the danger for her#this is how exactly it would happen in my walkthrough if companion mod had been a thing in game#Ida as muggleborn having a tough time in wizarding world definitely#and this is the second time Sebastian actually tried to comfort her somehow#I feel like I draw all the terrible things with absolutely cuddly fluffy style and that's my comedy peak#that location gave me kind of goosebumps ngl#I guess never saw it in my first walkthrough but tiktok just dropped the glass at me and of course I checked if the location is real#devs went hard and I like it daaamn#hogwarts legacy#hogwarts legacy mc#hogwarts legacy oc#ida ullson#sebastian sallow#sebastian sallow x mc
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pious aeneas
#the aeneid#aeneas#virgil#greek mythology#roman mythology#ish#my art#kind of a redraw of the cover of Shadi Bartsch’s translation#also#turnus pov
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“Your hair’s gotten longer.”
It’s conscious effort that keeps him from tucking the strands behind his ear, from taking the knife at his hip and shearing it all off. He keeps his stance focused, attentive, there’s little else he can do when he’s taken so completely after his mother when it comes to his hair. His father scratches his chin, the clouds of his beard snaking about his finger like mist parting for mountain-peaks. Ares’ chin is still child-smooth. He can feel the tickle of his over-long fringe against his soft jaw. There’s no heart in his chest, but still he feels as though a pulse is lodged in his throat.
Father sighs, put-upon, disappointed, and Ares feels a slight tremor start in his calves from holding himself so tense. “Well done, Ares. Go clean yourself up and get some rest. Phoebus will want to look you over later.”
He should be ecstatic to be praised by his father. Over-the-moon with joy. There should be pride emanating from every pore of his body, the blood on his skin should be sweeter than ambrosia.
Instead, he bows, manages a soft ‘thank you, Father’ around the lump in his throat and immediately flees the room. A mild ‘make sure to trim your hair’ hits the back of his head like a spear through the skull. He almost wishes the great door had slammed on his foot so he would have reason to feel this horrid in his retreat.
Phoebus Apollo is waiting for him in his infirmary.
He’s gilded as ever, gold from crown to heel. Perfect like the statues they carve of him in his temples. He has a smile for Ares when he sees him, a crinkle at the edges of his pretty eyes from the weight of his joy. Ares is waiting to see the crack in the marble, to see if that’s the chip that’ll reveal his fangs.
“Brother,” he greets, and his voice is warm - like the arms that embrace him, his voice is so warm, “Welcome back. I’ve heard you’ve done well.”
There’s a tremble in Ares’ fingers he hadn’t noticed before. Strain from carrying his sword for so many days, a throb from wounds he hadn’t noticed he’d accrued. “Heard? There’s already gossip?”
Phoebus blinks, disarming, demure, coquettish, “But of course,” and Phoebus’ voice is honey to Ares’ gravel, the juxtaposition is grating on his skin, “It’s Olympus. The gossip began long before you set your course.” Those warm hands lead him further into the room, bodily sits him on the chaise, pulls his helmet from his head. It’s all one, unbroken motion, “It’s summer alas, so I could not watch your war myself, but I hear it was quite the decisive victory.”
A thousand thoughts run on horseback through his mind then.
Did Father overhear some terrible slander that pre-emptively disappointed him? Was Ares’ victory merely a rumour, a bet his father hadn’t bothered to take? Was the gossip more enticing than the stark truth? That Ares wasn’t some child toddling about in the shadow of his sister, that his sword and spear weren’t merely for show - he’d think such a thing would warrant celebration. Not -
“Oh my,” Phoebus is in front of him, pleasant warmth more sticky heat with how close he’s pressed himself into Ares’ space. From this angle, Ares can see the multi-coloured flecks of his eyes, like shards of golden glass suspended in ichor. From this angle, with his hand so gently holding his hair, were Ares to blink too hard, he’d swear Phoebus looked just like his mother. “Your hair’s grown long again.”
He pushes Phoebus off with such force that he bangs into the wall. It’s Phoebus, it won’t make even the impression of a scratch on him, but Ares wishes it would. Wishes he’d hit his shoulder or crack his neck or hit his head just hard enough for all that perfect, gilded gold to bleed.
“I’m only here for you to heal me,” the tremble in his hand extends to his shoulder now. He flexes and unflexes his palm. Gods what he would give to just have a sword - “Don’t waste time with the pleasant-work.”
Phoebus huffs, adjusts the fit of his himation, “...Only because we’re meant to be celebrating your victory.” He crosses the room in two great strides, his hair a swirling tempest behind him as he gathers his poultices and wraps. “The only reason I’ll not throw you from the window is because we are meant to be celebrating your victory.”
There’s not enough acid in his tone for this to truly be a fight. Ares’ jaw clenches, he bites out a terse, “How benevolent.”
“Aren’t I?” He’s got nectar and his sutures in hand, that focused look falling upon his face when he switches from overbearing busybody to Paeon of the Gods. “Now strip unfaltering Ares, let us see the measure of damage done to your indomitable flesh.”
(Somewhere between the fifth set of stitches and the gentle frown that crosses Phoebus’ face when he notices the persistent tremble in his fingers, Ares pins his eyes to the far wall and asks, “What does it mean when Father says ‘well done’?”
Any other sibling would mock before they gave a true response. Any other sibling would laugh and dismiss it, would say that praise is praise and any lingering ill feeling is just the worst of the war still fogging his mind. Phoebus does not answer immediately. He doesn’t make a single sound. The question settles like fetid water between them, unignorable, the scent right there on the tip of the tongue yet firmly unacknowledged. Ares closes his eyes and tries again to settle his squirming so he does not interfere with Phoebus’ work. The metallic snip of scissors cutting thread breaks the silence. Phoebus bids him to sit up and slides his warm palms up his back until his fingers tangle gently in the ends of his hair. He twists the dark red strands until he’s gathered it all into a neat handful, holding it loosely as he switches his scissors for his shearing blade. “You should know it was not praise,” Phoebus says softly. The first of Ares cut hairs fall like viscera from his head. Phoebus treats each cutting with the sacredness of a blood-sacrifice. If he focused on the moment of tension right before the blade cuts though, Ares thinks he can imagine the agony of his sister’s sacred birth. “It is acknowledgement. Father thinks you’ve done well so he says ‘well done’.”
Gently, Phoebus releases him. Ruffles his head so all the extra hairs fall like red rain to the floor. Ares runs his fingers through the ends now curling against his ear. “Has he ever told you ‘well done’?”
A laugh, warm and gilded, “No, and it would not make you feel better if he had.”
Ares swallows down a thousand different questions. Phoebus wouldn’t answer them, he’s infuriating like that. Instead, he clenches his teeth, the phantom of Father’s dizzying tangle of grey cloud-hairs persistent in the corner of his eyes. “Cut it shorter.”
Phoebus doesn’t protest. He never seems to say a word when it really matters.)
#ginger writes#“Oh I'll post more about Apollo and Zeus!” posts about Ares and Apollo posts about Ares and Apollo posts about Ares--#Admittedly the triad of Zeus Ares Apollo is very interesting to me and it has a very fun place in my work so like#woe Ares/Apollo sibling relations be upon ye#I think Ares and Apollo are such fascinating foil cases btw - both for exploring masculinity and the complexes of the son#Strong masculine Ares with his dread and bloody war-work vs calm effeminate Apollo with his dread but distant archery#Apollo himself is not effeminate by the by but some of the things he's associated with tend to give that impression#I'm thinking specifically of an Achilles/Paris dichotomy between the two almost tbh#Where Achilles lives gloriously and fights gloriously but is ultimately destined for shame and an inglorious end#while Paris lives according to his feelings and desires yet prevails over both the pious and the powerful#That's the kind of relationship they have at this point#It's also very interesting looking at cases where parents (in this case Zeus) don't necessarily deride or shame a child#but certainly don't uplift them either#The distance between Zeus and Ares will never not be a favoured topic of mine#I love that shit so much actually#zeus#ares#apollo#writing#greek mythology#pursuing daybreak posting
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"Eratosthenes recounts in his Hermes that Hera unknowingly gave milk to the infant Hermes, but when she came to realize that he was Maia's son, she pushed him away; and this is why a bright trail of spilled milk can be seen among the stars." (Hyginus, Astronomy 2.43)
Hera: Ow, random baby. He must be hungry- EWWW, it's Maia's brat!
#look if people took advantage of my kindness like this I would also hesitate to be kind all that often#hera#hermes#greek mythology#milky way
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Epic the musical soulmate au
Where nothing changes but all the words make you a lot sadder
I’ve been on a soulmates AU kick recently and thinking about the Ithaca Saga so imagine a first words tattooed on your body trope with young Odysseus and Penelope and he’s a little intuitive having heard of Penelope and thinking she’s so cool then he sees her and gets this feeling she’s the one
Maybe it’s an Athena’s pupil thing maybe they’re such a perfect match for each other that he can feel it in his bones but he has this almost tangible cord pulling him towards her
But he’s there tryna wingman for Menelaus, talks to Tyndareus abt the oath idea and when the king responds well he maybe quietly implies he’s set his sights on Penelope, and maybe Helen and Penelope are somewhere nearby just close enough to hear Odysseus’ pitch but not so close they hear his goals(I can’t find a solid source online for their first meeting so I’m making stuff up) and after, penelope is intrigued by him and he’s somewhere close and she comments something like “he chooses his words well” to Helen. and he’s like stupid smart, trying to impress her, even his subconscious is focused on her and he hears and says something like “it’d take a fool to be insolent in your presence” to her
and it clicks in her head immediately that those are her words and without any shock or question she just says “you’re mine”
And they’re so sickeningly in love, they call back to their words often, he’ll say “I’d be a fool to___” and she’ll repeat “you’re mine” and almost never call him his name favoring lovey nicknames like “my love” and “my dear”
And when he goes off to war she says “you’ll come home to me, you’re mine” and he says “It’d take a fool not to return to your presence”
Then things go south, but through his journey it’s all he thinks, that he has a promise to keep. When he loses his crew, when he faces and befriends Circe, hears his fallen brethren and family in the underworld, the sirens song having an almost “I’m yours” tone as opposed to “you’re mine”, he evades Scylla, he makes Zeus’ choice, all thinking “it would take a fool not to return to your presence”
And calypso, she doesn’t have the words of a soulmate. it’s a fate confined to humanity, from when Zeus split mortals in two and forced their souls to be forever reaching to connect the puzzle til they finally unite. But she knows what they are. And just like her using his sleep-spoken trauma against him, calling back to his dead friends and family, she repeats “you’re mine” in love in paradise even dipping into “my dear” and “my love” despite his unending denial of her affections. It puts even more emphasis on his already rightful aggression and pain at what should only be said by Penelope
Then “I plan to put an end to all the foolishness” in dangerous he already wasn’t going to let anything stop him but now he’s willing to do straight up anything (and he does) to get home. He has a firm belief. he would rather be savage and merciless than be foolish because in his eyes there is nothing worse.
And when he becomes monstrous, how will he sleep at night??? “NEXT TO HIS WIFE” we all say in unison.
That’s not even mentioning Penelope, she spent 10 years pushing back the suitors, because Odysseus is coming home, she knows her husband, he is no fool. He will come back to her. She will not let anything go, and she will keep what is hers. The suitors all having an approach of having her turning their already flat chances into the negatives, especially Antinous’ threats in hold them down all having a message of taking from her where to be with Penelope is to give her all of yourself so she can do the same in turn.
And he absolutely fucks shit up, the suitors and their threats, the harm they’ve dealt to his family, the way they continue to try nothing but take what’s Penelope’s, what’s his. Their foolishness will not be tolerated. The actions they’ve taken to his wife, to his son, the greatest creation their love has ever made, they didn’t stand a chance against the guy who just fought god and won.
And then what everyone has been waiting on for the entire musical the absolute masterpiece that is would you fall in love with me again will never not be heart wrenching. He’s not just asking her if she could look past all he did, fall in love with the man he’s become. He doesn’t know if he still deserves her, if he’s too far gone to be worthy, He’s asking “am I still yours”
And she’s as cunning as ever, even after every year they spent apart she will always know exactly how to push his buttons, how to set him off, how to force him to convey his desperation for her, and hell she’s from Sparta of course she’s gonna be into him after all that. The second he turns his back in shame she’s probably twirling her hair and fanning her face knowing what he did all to keep his promise and return to her. And she gives him the reassurance that he needs, tricks him into proving that no measure of distance and time could ever take away or change what they have, and for the first time in 20 years he hears her say “you’re mine” and it shatters any apprehensions and self doubt because he’s still Penelopes.
And overall it changes literally nothing about the plot or the storyline and only serves to make things a hundred percent more sad and angsty
and I’ve had this eating away at my brain all through a piercing appointment and shopping with my mom and sibling all day I can finally rest now that it’s escaped my head
#epic the musical#epic odysseus#epic the ithaca saga#epic the vengeance saga#epic penelope#odypen#odysseus#odysseus and penelope#odysseus x penelope#penelope of ithaca#penelope of sparta#I’ve never read the oddessey I’m too poor to buy books#all my info comes from looking stuff up on the internet and listening to the songs religiously#Penelope the woman that you are#I love odypen I wish straight people were real#epic the musical soulmate au#soulmate au#Greek mythology#feel free to yoink this idea and make it a fic or make art of it#in fact I’m begging you to do so and pls @ me so I can see it#odypen setting standards for their son#at this point they’ve got 90% of the Greek pantheon rooting for them#all the olympians have a new OTP and as long as they have any say in it neither the ocean or the skies will sink their ship#haha Zeus WISHES he had this kind of love#so does Hera but in a different way#she can live vicariously through her mortal ships tho
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I currently have writer's block and fucked around and made Iliad and Odyssey memes :'D Some look like "repeats" but aren't. Just different scenarios/people. Enjoy!
There's... A LOT. I don't care if you pick out your favorites! I put this all in one post as I don't want to spam the tags! :D
#I hope people get the Proteus one😅It's simple but I really fucking love it.#I'm sorry if ugly but I literally made most of these in google presentation as all I have is a shitty chromebook.#I want to make more Penelope and Helen ones but those are mostly headcanons🥺 so probably something later on#I wanted to have more Agamemnon and Achilles ones too but I don't think I understand their characters enough to do them justice...#I know enough for basics but yea#the circe/calypso is a bit dark but...bleh.#I think “my wife has a migraine” one kind of fits Menelaus more (If he were in a band today? He'd probably be the drummer) but eh!#I'm not an artist and I don't want to use others art without giving credit. (the one art one that's from tumblr DOES have the creator on#the bottom! “c-rowlesdraws” on tumblr! also there's moomin) SO I MAKE DO WITH FUCKING JPEGS LIKE A PEASANT! :D#odysseus#odyssey#the odyssey#odypen#penelope#diomedes#menelaus#helen of sparta#achilles#thetis#agamemnon#circe#calypso#tagamemnon#greek mythology#iliad#the iliad#Mad memes#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus
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I'm musing on how most riddles in folktales really do not behave like what we consider riddles today. Because they usually fall into one of these categories:
● A cryptic question referring to something that actually happened and only the asker could know the answer to. Like in the Grimms' "The Riddle", where a prince asks a princess this: "What killed none, and yet killed twelve." The answer is a particular raven, which ingested poisoned meat and was then cooked into soup, eaten by twelve robbers who immediately died from it. (This is also called a "neck riddle" because it often shows up in stories where winning the riddle contest saves the protagonist's neck.)
● A cryptic question that has a metaphorical answer, but which could technically have many correct answers, not just one. Like the riddles posed in the ballad "Riddles Wisely Expounded", one of which is "What is louder than the horn?" with the answer "Thunder is louder than the horn."
● An apparently "impossible task" instead of a question. Like in Joseph Jacobs' "The Clever Lass" in which the king orders a clever farmer's daughter to "come to him clothed, yet unclothed, neither walking, nor driving, nor riding, neither in shadow nor in sun." So she undresses and wraps herself in her long hair, attaches a net to the tail of a hose and lets herself be dragged to the castle while holding a sieve over her head to shield her from the sun. (This type of contradiction riddle even shows up in the Mabinogi.)
Of course it matters what role the riddles play in the tale. Usually it's not about the riddle at all, it's just about the protagonist proving how clever and/or witty they are. And in case of the neck riddles, the audience usually also knows the answer, because they know what happened to the protagonist earlier in the story, so the audience gets the pleasure of being smarter than the antagonist.
In the originally Persian tale "Turandot" cryptic questions with (I would say) multiple answers are mixed with something that feels more like a riddle with one "proper answer". For example: "What mother resides on earth, who swallows all her children." The answer is: "The sea, she swallows every stream and river that has ever sprung from her." But I feel like whenever I encounter a "classic" riddle with one proper answer, that usually rhymes, it's either from Greek Mythology (boy did they love a riddling verse), or it a modern riddle added in the retelling...
#riddles#riddle#riddle contest#laura babbles#folklore#fairy tales#norse mythology has rhyming riddles too#but I don't remember any scandinavian folktales with that kind of riddle either... maybe my memory is failing me
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This is the man that stabbed Poseidon w/ his own trident btw
I am so late to this fandom 😭
#epic the musical#odysseus#epic the musical odysseus#odysseus fanart#greek mythology#kind of i guess#doodle#epic the vengeance saga#in a way#look at this goofy little man#What do you mean he stabbed an edgy water guy several times??#I have no idea what you’re talking about#Kinda random but I showed my little brother this and this is how it went#Me: do you know what he’s trying to do?#Little brother: PANCAKES#Me: what no he’s trying to get home-#Little brother: PANCAKES.
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