#nora x mary louise

[andreal831]

What do you think of Nora and Mary Louise as a couple?

I want to like them so badly because TVDU gives us almost no sapphic representation. The ones we do have are deeply problematic. I have to rewrite so much of Freelin's relationship in my head to enjoy them.

But, if there's one thing I'm going to do, it's rewrite TVDU.

Mary Louise and Nora are both pretty bad people and they have a fairly toxic relationship. But who doesn't in TVDU? I do struggle to love either of their characters because they seem to enjoy harming and torturing people with little remorse or reason. It's just not my preference for characters.

Hot take, but I didn't hate Mary Louise the way I feel a lot of the fandom does. I thought it was interesting that they allowed her to still have trauma from being queer in the 1800/1900s. The show often pulls characters from other decades and they just immediately fit in. Like Finn in TO when he's brought back from the dead can magically impersonate a professor and navigate the 21st century after having missed 900 years of advancements. It would make sense for a character who has faced hate and persecution their whole lives to be hesitant to be loud and proud of being queer. Although, I wish they wouldn't just have used it as a conflict in their relationship.

I tend to hear a lot of misogynistic language around both of them as well. I don't particularly love them, but even people who like male characters like them (Damon, Klaus, Kai) hate them. Women in this fandom can't win. Elena is called a "crybaby" for showing emotions and Mary Louise is called a "stone cold bitch" for not showing her emotions.

We also just don't get a lot of their relationship. They are only in half a season and spend most of it being at odds with each other. They are both insecure in their own ways and are struggling to adapt to the new world they find themselves in. One issue I really had was Nora trying to force Mary Louise to fit in to the 21st century. Her forcing Mary Louise to dress in more sexual clothes will never sit right with me. Especially because it felt very centered on the male gaze.

I do like that we see them try to grow and evolve for each other. They do seem to be very different people but that is not always a bad thing. I think if we could have seen more of their history together it would have made the audience root for them more. They entered the show having issues and never really seemed to get on the same page as each other except when one of them is in danger and then they are very protective. Without seeing their history, it seemed as if the show was just forcing them to stay together despite everything pushing them apart. They had a lot of cute moments, but it felt like we were just catching a glimpse of this complex love story. Given more time, they could have found their footing and been a ship I really rooted for. Again, there's just so much work the fandom was forced to do because the writers couldn't be bothered.

And of course they fall into the "bury your gays" trope. Their death to me doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Are you telling me they couldn't perform the spell to destroy the sword without blowing themselves up in the process? If they knew a spell to destroy it, it seems like there should be other options.

I would honestly need to rewatch season 7 to see if I would change my mind because it has been a while.

Thanks for the ask!

[iknowshocker]

“Do you go to Whitmore, too?” Bonnie asks, lifting her chin. She’s handled mean girls before, more times than she can count. She can handle two more tonight.

“Oh, no, we’re new in town,” the blonde says, holding out one hand. “I’m Mary-Louise. You’ll have to ignore Nora, she loves nothing more than stirring up trouble.”

Bonnie takes her hand, unprepared for the rush of memories that flicker through her mind. She sees a dark room, so cold her breath fogs in the air. Bloodied chains are piled on the packed dirt floor at her feet, while thick hooks of iron hang from the low ceiling, most still dripping with red.

She yanks her arm back, trying to keep from gasping. “Are you-,” panic rises in her throat, her magic swelling. “Did you know Luke?”

“We’ve met him,” Nora says, “in a way.”

[countrymusiclover]

86 - Calling Us Home

Part 87

Gemini Runaway

@icefrye19 @secretdreamlandmentality

Walking through the streets of Mystic Falls it was just me and the girls with me. Damon and Stefan needed Klaus’s help with something that involved some sort of stone. Since Lily has brought her lover back from hell I'm told. Heading up to the ice cream shop I halted in my tracks seeing one of the Heretics looking at the menu board. "Uh girls, how about we go somewhere else.."

"But I want ice cream!" Hope tugged my arm when I attempted to tug them backwards.

Missy begged me. "Please mommy."

"You promised that if we were really good while you and dad went to visit Jo's husband." Alina said back, making me roll my eyes.

Taking a few more steps we were at the order menu with me standing beside the heretic girl. She turned her head, noticing us beside her. "Do you have any good recommendations on this tiny establishment?"

"It's ice cream. I don't think there are any bad options." Dropping down on a knee to be level with our daughters. "Okay so what do you all want?"

Missy raised her hand like in school. "Strawberry."

Hope went after her. "Rocky road."

Leaving Alina last. "Cookies n cream!"

"Okay. That will be all for us sir." Handing the worker the money I eyed the heretic who was just staring at me. "Sorry I don't mean to be rude. But can I help you?"

The brunette heretic nodded, ordering a chocolate ice cream cone. “So I hear you’re a witch from what Valerie has told us.”

“Actually I’m like you, Incendia.” Holding up my freehand some fire came out and died away. I smiled, licking my cookie dough cone.

The woman nodded, taking a bite out of her cone covering her mouth with her hand gasping. “Oh my, that's colder than I thought. But it’s very good.”

“If you want rather good human food I suggest the Mystic Grill. Let’s go girls.” I turned on my heels about to leave until she called out to us.

“I’m Nora. What are your and your daughter’s names?” She asked me.

Glancing over my shoulder I sent her a small smile pointing towards my girls when I introduced them. “I’m Raelyn Mikaelson. My oldest daughter here is Hope. Then this is Alina and finally Melissa but we mostly just call her Missy.”

“Well they’re adorable.” She sighed, dropping her smile at the ground. “At least you have a family to experience this world together with unlike me.”

Missy licked her cone, feeling her sadness. “Where is your family at?”

Nora sniffed away tears. “My girlfriend Mary Louise isn’t exactly open to trying out this new world together with me. I have been forced to endure it alone.”

“That’s sad.” Hope replied back.

Alina reached for my hand grasping it lightly when I sent the heretic a smile. “In my experience if your partner wants to be with you. Then they will do whatever they have to make you happy. But you shouldn’t have to wait alone. So if you are open to it I can be your friend.”

“What do you want out of it?” Nora asked.

Shaking my head I could feel someone watching us. “Nothing. I just know what it’s like to be scared and need a friend ... .I'd suggest showing yourself before I make you!”

“She’s a fiery little bitch isn’t she.” Whipping my head around I watched the blonde heretic walking towards us with a scowl on her face.

Nora sent her an annoyed look. “What are you doing here, Mary Lou?”

“I want you to come home. I miss you.” She told her back.

Nora rolled her eyes taking more bites out of her ice cream cone. “Well I don’t want to come home with you and stay in the house. All because you are too afraid to embrace the new world. Even if it has annoying things. It’s better than being in that prison world.”

“What are you all staring at. This is a private conversation!” Mary Louise snapped showing her fangs to me.

Throwing away the cone I pushed my daughters in the opposite direction looking back at the couple only one more time. We finally made it back to the mansion and I opened the door seeing Klaus was waiting on the couch. “Raelyn, we need to talk alone. Girls, can you go to your rooms please for a little while.”

“Okay daddy.” Alina slumped her shoulders with the other two following her footsteps.

Walking over to the couch I plopped down beside him shifting my gaze towards my husband. “So what exactly do we need to talk about, Nik?”

“We need to leave Mystic Falls.” He said taking a drink of bourbon from the glass he was holding.

“What why?” I questioned him.

He shifted so we were facing each other sitting his glass on the table. His gaze focused on mine. “Apparently the heretics that we helped release are in possession of a stone I recognized from my thousand years. It’s called a phoenix stone that brought back one of the heretic souls that were trapped inside of it.”

Putting my hands together in my lap I tilted my head to the side. “Okay so why exactly do we need to run back to New Orleans?”

“Because the stone belongs to a sword that belongs to a hunter. A hunter that wants to kill anyone who stops her from getting her marked kill.” He explained raising his hands and I could tell that he was slightly beginning to panic. “If she makes you with her sword she can find anyone of us and she won’t stop-“

Holding my hands up I cut him off not liking that he was panicking. “Nik, slow down. I get that barely anything scares you. But why exactly are you afraid of this supposed hunter? I mean clearly she’s not here.”

“One of the heretics is marked, Raelyn.” He blurted out gently, grabbing my shoulders. “His name is Julian and he was the one they just released from the hell stone. Meaning that the huntress will come here to kill him.”

Moving my hands onto his forearms I gained his attention seeing that he was letting some tears out in fear. “Klaus, stop worrying. We don’t have to run like you did from Mikael for a thousand years. We were separated for six years by Marcel but I won’t run anymore.”

“Rae.”

He simply said my name before my phone started ringing so I took it out of my pocket seeing I was my brother. “J, hey. What’s going on?”

“Raelyn, we need you and Klaus to come back here. Something is happening with Andrea.” He was frantically talking through the phone.

Shaking my head I needed him to calm down. “Woah Jacob. Slow down. Just tell me what is going on there.”

“So uh….you know that thing we called the Hollow. Well apparently Andrea has been seeing a blue light calling out to her. It gives her nightmares and I don’t know what to do. We…I need your help.” My twin’s voice broke when he finished his sentence telling me he was terrified for his daughter.

Hanging up the phone Klaus lifted his gaze upward to me since I jumped to my feet. “What’s going on, love?”

“We’re going to New Orleans. My brother called for our help.” Stomping up the stairs I didn’t know that Klaus was smirking as I walked away with headstrong determination.

He mumbled to himself proudly. “She truly is a Queen.”

Comments really appreciated ❤️

[tribridlvr]

Hiii!!! so i will be writing for these people:

TVDU:

Hope Mikaelson

Freya Mikaelson

Cami O’Connell

Nora Hildegard

Mary-Louise

Lizzie Saltzman

Keelin Malraux

criminal minds:

Emily Prentiss

Jennifer Jareau

Alex Blake

the nursery nurse:

mialotte

wintumn

RULES:

- i wont write anything romantic for males, hence why the people i write for are women

-i wont write nsfw at all, i will do hints at that that’s all, maybe down the line i will but at the moment no

-i write wlw/nblw as im a lesbian and this is all i’m comfortable writing

-i will write angst, fluff anything just not smut

[originalwitchedits]

MARY LOUISE X NORA HILDEGARD (THE VAMPIRE DIARIES)

[vampiric-whisper]

Not me searching Delena and coming across the Denzo tag.

Why did I never notice before? Now that I've seen posts about Denzo, I'm obsessed.

Ugh! Now I wish it did happen in TVD. Damon and Enzo getting together.

I think Delena blinded me to the obvious tension between Damon and Enzo.

The Vampire Diaries was seriously lacking in same sex couples.

The only one we saw interacting together on screen was Nora and Mary-Louise. Which what happened with them was heartbreaking.

[laufire]

it’s so blatantly obvious they didn’t gaf about Nora and Mary Louise and just wanted to get rid of them and any vestige of the heretics plot as soon as possible... and I’m not even protesting TOO much because it was pretty much a failure and I only really cared for Lily but. damn. having them just captured by the armory and go out in a discount thelma & louise car ride ending made with zero effort... it’s pretty callous as BYG goes 😬

[multi-royalty-arc]

“What kind of something Nora?” Mary-louise wasn’t always one to be stowed away in the wrong direction. She needed a sense of security that what ever she was doing wouldn’t end up with her back in the prison world…and required a lot of reassurance from Lilly... Though Nora was different, she was the one to settle her fears and encourage what Mary-louise saw as risky behaviour. “You know I’d do anything for your happiness”. Right now she could sense her girlfriend’s sorrow, something wasn’t right and she intended to fix whatever that what.

“did something happen to you? something you haven’t told me?” (Mary-louise to Nora)

SHE SIGHED AND SHOOK HER HEAD, because nothing had happened she just … thought maybe there was something more that they could … have then whatever this life was now. what if they actually did what they wanted for once? wouldn’t it …. couldn’t it be wonderful? “i just think we should do something for us, for once, mary louise.” would that be so terrible and awful? she did not think so, but if mary-louise did than maybe things wouldn’t work out. nora was tired of whatever their life was at this moment, she liked it here and after speaking with bonnie, change seemed needed.

[so-long-soldier28]

Idk if anyone's ever asked u this but what would ur life in tvd be like?! Including ur family ,career, friends, species etc lmao

oh ho ho, so this is certainly a thing i've considered

as someone who maladaptive daydreams all day long (whenever i'm not writing basically), trust me when i say i have an entire life planned out

in fact, the things i write frequently represent these daydreams, except i have an OC for them, whereas for writing, i am committed to the 'x reader' way

✨ including my readers in my world of delusion & fantasy ✨

but onwards and upwards…

species

first, I feel like being a heretic would be so fucking cool

like… vampire with witch powers, c'mon now… being the underdog your whole life and then rising to be the most powerful, it's gotta be redeeming

plus seems so fun

but personally, I think I'd stick to being just a witch, and I have a solid reason for this

now, being a vampire would be cool, too (and honestly I need to write more vampire reader fics), because I absolutely love the bloodthirsty, badassery of vampires

so if not a witch (bc I love the thought of being able to do magic), I would go with vamp second

I still hate the TVDU wolves. literally all of them. as someone who watches Teen Wolf now, I would LOVE to be one of those wolves, but as for TVDU, I still HATE those guys

being a hybrid doesn't sound too bad, although then both Klaus and Tyler would be all up in my business all the time, and that sounds awful

so no wolfishness for me

for species, I'd be a witch, but then I get turned into a vampire in my mid-20s

career

I need to eat, so I need to work

idk how anybody except Matt got by without a job

and like Matt, I work at the Mystic Grill, but I'm a little older than them, so I can bartend (even tho underage Matt does too)

I was going to Whitmore College, but dropped out (like I did lmao)

friends

Mystic Falls gang but in varying degrees of friendliness

most with Caroline, loving her bubbly personality; drift away from Elena when she gets tied up with the Salvatores; drift from Bonnie when she starts dating Jeremy, then drift further after the Kai debacle

also, the Originals

Kol has the title of the best friend; Bex is close, too

sometimes I'm so much of a Kolvina shipper that I can't split Kol & Davina apart, even tho I'm in love with Kol, too

Klaus is a frenemy; I like him when he's not murderous. he can be loyal when he wants to be, same with Elijah.

in fact, I liked Elijah in s2-era, but was also a little afraid. my crush fizzled out the moment I saw Kol, but then she & him became good friends instead (with both)

hooked up with Kol once or twice when he still lived in MF

friendly with Jo, but she's not really having it once I get with Kai

same with Luke and Liv... friendly, but Liv hates me after the merge

circa-season 7, I want to be friends with Nora & Mary Louise, but the MF gang works hard at keeping me away from them

amidst the chaos, I manage to get my way and befriend them anyway, earning their trust by being so close to Kai

when I die, I'm given blood by Nora, like in the fic I wrote recently, or Damon, who likes me enough to keep me alive and knows Kai would slaughter him if he ever came back and found out

seasons 7-8, I'm very much teaming on both sides, friends with MF gang and heretics, which is frustrating to MF gang (minus Caroline, who has become somewhat reliant on heretics for help with her pregnancy. + she always understands me anyway.)

frenemies

Tyler and Matt get their own category, bc I don't hate them, but they certainly piss me off

Tyler's just annoying in general, and I hate how he treats Caroline while he's away hybrid-ing

he gets better in s6 when he's trying to impress Liv & Caroline is over him. still not a friend, but less of an enemy

Matt, on the other hand, is complicated

he was my way into the supernatural bc we worked together

he had trouble keeping it from me bc vampires would always show up at the grill, and one time, he forgot I wasn't in the circle and ranted about vamps and wolves before he remembered

he and the gang still try to keep me out of it, despite my knowledge

but that all fails when Kol is undaggered, finds me alone, and we become friends

the fact that he actively hates vampires while hooking up with Rebekah bothers me, which causes tension between us

but he's stronger than he looks and loyal if he trusts you, so I try to keep him on my good side

family

my TVDU OC is the same OC I've had since I was 13 that I've slightly adapted for different fandoms

in TVDU, my parents are divorced; mom moved away, and toxic dad lives about 2 hours away while I'm in college

I hide whenever he comes to MF to visit

occasionally, my parents are dead like everyone else's

sometimes, though, I'm the older sister of other characters, but that varies per daydream

sometimes, I'm Tyler's older sister who is actually a wolf

triggered my curse young in life by accident, but didn't tell Tyler until he had triggered his own

sometimes, I'm even Matt's older sister, and he still spends every waking minute trying to keep me out of the supernatural

I've also used the Salvatore sister storyline with Kol, and Gilbert cousin one for both Kol and Kai

dating life

Kai, ofc

MF gang tried sooo hard to us apart, especially bc I'm a witch, but they lost that battle quickly

couldn't keep me from work, so whenever he'd come in for a drink and I was bartending, we'd talk

gained his trust through listening & he gained mine when I let him siphon

Matt and Damon first to realize we're friends, and know there's nothing they can do

fall into a relationship quickly

either beg Damon to spare him at the end of s6, or beg for his life in s8

had a crush on s2-era Elijah, but did a 180* and fell for Kol instead when he was undaggered

used as Kol bait when Caroline was Klaus bait, but despite a few hook-ups, never actually dated

became close friends & adore his relationship with Davina in NOLA

visit him there or wherever he is every so often

[I honestly never built a solid storyline around being with Kol or Elijah. (Elijah was my first favorite ever, and Kol's my second fave now next to Kai.) I entertain a world of delulu with Kol sometimes, but it lacks foundation.]

basically, he never died (obvs) and I move to NOLA with him (and he never dies there, too)

but I love both witch & vamp Kols, and both their actors, and I really should dedicate more time to delulu daydreams with them 😅

so, now that I've rambled...

species: witch, until Kai's death, then i become a vampire. however, if Kai doesn't die after s6, neither of us turn. (sometimes I'm feelin' heretic-y, sometimes not, what can I say?)

career: working at Mystic Grill; at Whitmore College for two years, but dropped out

friends: Caroline, Bonnie, & Elena first. Stefan & Damon post season 1 when Damon mellows out and I learn to trust Stefan. Kol & Rebekah, and I'm okay with the rest eventually (minus Finn).

family: divorced parents; mom moved and I stay away from my dad

frenemies: Matt & Tyler. s2 Klaus & Elijah. Finn, because I know he was mistreated by Klaus, much like Kol, and I want to be friends, but then he tries to kill his whole family, so I don't feel bad anymore. Then when Finn killed Kol in NOLA, he became a straight-up enemy. Also, I tolerate Alaric, but he annoys me daily in s6-8-era.

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If anyone outside of this site read a single one of these sentences, I would be committed. I love fandoms / fanfiction, because all this stuff is perfectly normal to us. I love us as a community. Anyway, this was super fun to answer! 🥰 I'm sorry it took me so long!

[joanna-lannister]

b + i + m + q + t

i'm here to disctract you!! 🤍

AAAH THANK YOU SO MUCH JENNA ❤️🥰✨ You're truly the best!

B: A pairing you initially didn’t consider but someone changed your mind.

Hmm, Robb and Margaery was kinda a ship I didn't consider before seeing edits on Tumblr, but the one I really like is Robb and Dany 👀 I remember reading this ship a long time ago in Jonsa fic (can't remember the name of this fic tho lmao rip), and I was like "Oh yeah, that's a good one".

I: Has tumblr caused you to stop liking any fandoms, if so, which and why?

Not really? I kinda dislike most of the Game of Thrones fandom (I hate how they treat Cersei, to no one surprise, among other few things) but it doesn't stop me from being active in the fandom 😭 But no, I can't think of any fandom I stopped liking because of Tumblr.

M: A person who got you into a fandom and what fandom they pulled you in to.

Ooof I can't tell a person in particular, but I def got pulled in by Tumblr in the Yellowjackets fandom. And the gifsets in this fandom are always so pretty!

Q: A ship you’ve abandoned and why.

Lowkey abandoned Rhaenicent 😬 I used to like it, but their last scenes felt a bit forced, and I don't like the fact Alicent feels like a doormat for Rhaenyra. I think that, like Sansa and Margaery, I will more enjoy it in fanfics/edits than in canon.

T: What are your favorite male/male ships or female/female ships?

I don't really have mlm ships to be honest, except Klefan (Klaus x Stefan from The Vampire Diaries). I kinda ship Merthur and Destiel tho, but like by proxy with Tumblr. Oh, and those two firefighters from 911! I'm rooting for them. As for wlw ships, I have a few ones. Coming at the top of my mind, Dany x Yara (Game of Thrones, they had very few scenes together and I usually need content for my ship to root for it, but omg the chemistry was delicious). I have also Beronica and Choni (Riverdale). And I have Mary-Louise and Nora from The Vampire Diaries! They were only there for one season, but they were so cute, and like they died together 😭 I had also Villaneve (Killing Eve), but I kinda dropped the show 😬

[lesbiansaltzman]

TVDU (The Vampire Diaries Universe) SHIP BRACKET

ROUND 2, BATTLE 28: Jayley (Jackson Kenner x Hayley Marshall, TO) VS Noralise (Nora Hildegard x Mary Louise, TVD)

[mdq-cool]

Para el futuro:

Klaus x Cami

Enzo x Bonnie

Mary Louise x Nora

Angie quiere ser más Kai, Elijah y Lucien

Katherine x Elijah

Algo de HP

Aurora x Klaus AU Romántico FB

[tvdversegifs]

THE VAMPIRE DIARIES (2009-2017) S07E04―I Carry Your Heart with Me

[bakerolivias-archived]

mary louise/nora and stefan/caroline pairing up and dressing as an angel and devil for a costume party....... and also klamille having the angel/devil or dark/light costumes at the masquerade party in the originals..........

#this is how you OTP

[couragehopelovefaith]

I still have really mixed feelings about the season 7 of TVD, but now that I’m rewatching it, it isn’t nearly as bad as I remember. Steroline as a romantic couple is still very, very far from my piece of cake and I still deeply prefer their friendship. On the other hand, I’m really not a fan of the whole Alaric/Caroline-situation, either (I know Candice was pregnant at that time and the show would’ve felt hollow without Caroline, but I still hoped they had solved the situation in some other way). If Stefan had to end up with someone other than Elena, I would’ve loved it to be Valerie. I loved her character and she is my favorite heretic. But I love how they focus on Stefan and Damon’s brotherhood and the development of Bonenzo. Mary-Louise and Nora deserved so much better, as well as Bonnie.  The increasing screentime and her romantic relationship doesn’t wipe away the fact that she has to sacrifice everything for everyone else and suffer time and time again.  I’m as anti-Damon as it gets, but I like the developing friendship between Bonnie and Damon.

Gosh, I’m so conflicted.