#nidus and helminth

[maybebovinity]

Day 6: Sleigh

Nidus delivering a small gift to the Helmnith

I also just wanted an excuse to draw Nidus on his hands and knees. I need this man in a constant state of submissive and breedable

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[lt-sarai]

Sometimes a family is a man infected by a virus that turned his skin into metal and gave him powers, a void-touched person from an alternate universe piloting an infested meat suit, and their infested dog-thing.

[warding-halo]

my infested mamas

[unicorn-argent]

look at my warframe and say that again Helminth

[alteredsilicone]

Idk if you ever mentioned this, so imma ask: What would Viri's and Loid's dynamic be? How would they interact with one another? What are her thoughts on the Cavia? Does she have any overall opinion on the Murmur, Albrechts Labs,The Vessels, etc? Also, what's her opinion on Kalymos?

I'm pretty sure the most I've talked about the new content-adjacent things is just how Viri ended up being the Chosen Operator due to Wally targeting specifically her!

Anyways.

Viri and Loid - she didn't particularly enjoy being called a deserter, but it's not like Loid is privy to her sad and tragic backstory and how she was brainwashed into servitude. Viri has experience mediating with cranky people so she mostly let Loid lead her from task A to task B while watching out for his emotional reactions to the Indifference. Once the events of the quest pass, Loid apologizes to her for his initial hostility, but Viri assures him that they can mend that over a cup of milk coffee and a slice of cheesecake, so they keep in touch and Viri brings him snacks from the outside world and tells him of all that has happened since he went into cryostasis; including updating on what the Entratis are up to upstairs. Long story short - a bit of a rocky start but they end up becoming friends.

Cavia - broke her heart in a billion pieces! ESPECIALLY Tagfer. Viri's father, Amadeus, was a virmink breeder who was infamous for his attachment to his "specimens", he would give a name to each and every virmink he bred (even the failures that had to be put down) and was very attached to them. Tagfer's depression over losing Minn shook Viri to her core. She now sometimes wonders if the virminks she and her father looked after also shared such deep feelings within the recesses of their minds...

The murmur - since they function as Wally's minions she feels responsible for holding them back, especially due to her strong affinity for the Void. Sometimes they whisper to her and call her a traitor - the murmur sense the void angel within her, and think she is one of them but are confused as to why she attacks them or more importantly - why she can resist their master's call.

The lab and vessels - Viri has seen her fair share of weird science, her mother worked on infestation, but Viri never-ever found out what exactly she worked on since it was top secret. Albrecht is an Orokin and Orokin doing shady, dangerous shit was not something that surprised her in the least. She would just quietly catalog anything interesting, but mostly keep it to herself (usually she forwards all information to Ergo for Perrin safekeeping, but Viri promised Loid that nobody outside of a select few Tenno are allowed to know of the Sanctum's existence).

Kalymos - little known fact! Viri adopted a hyekka kavat whose name is Bacchus! She loves naked kitties! Circling back to the Cavia and her father's work, Viri is definitely an animal person; she is used to handling them and respects them almost the same way you would respect a person. The question is whether Kalymos would like Viri...

Here is a picture of Bacchus as a bonus:

[nami-ramen]

Finally finished protoframe Enty(my oc) design!

I took inspo from modus and carrion’s monster (like I did for og Enty idea), most of their body is not modified like most frames,only having metal claws to properly shape fingers from that infestation mess or smth like that (before taking helminth their probably was probably almost being taken by infestation and transformation tried to form back their limbs)

Their main idea is probably stealth type of gameplay and ability to take shape of an enemy by literally eating them alive

Also bcs I’m kind of embarrassed of what I’ve created(I think that their design still rly doesn’t fit to whole warframes idea,despite being nidus-like) and bcs I dunno what tags to use here I’ll just leave it w/o them

[cephalonprime]

How do you guys think The Hex would react to the Helminth? Since that thing probably just appeared in the backroom one day.

Imagime them seeing the Drifter either;

A: Sacrificing a Warframe to it where it literally stabs them, drops them and then absorbs them

Or

B: Having it stab our necks to get the Cysts off and or giving a frame different abilities.

And what about our Helminth Chargers? I personally have one each for all three Helminth skins, so imagine them seeing the deformed one just walking around wanting pets and wiggling the weird tail thing it has? Not to mention the Deimos pets you can get.

God, what would they think of Nidus? Lol.

But, back to the sacrificing part. You do have a talk with Quincy about the Warframes being human once, so I feel like he'd be really disturb with witnessing A. But, the normal Warframes are duplicates of Primes lore wise and Primes were the ones who used to be humans (I think, I don't remember) so maybe that'll make it better for him? Probably not.

[valm-arcane]

...whhhy did the Helminth just spit up a Nidus?

[keoulkeech]

Entrati style goes so hard. I love you so much Xaku Prime!

Since Xaku is bringing Trumna: Lavos will bring Sepulcrum. source: trust me, Tenno

Some rambling about Xaku. I saw many posts and comments on other sites that them getting primed wouldn't "make sense" (...like anything in Warframe ever made sense!) [affectionate]

From what I gather the lore is that some warframe first models are Prime and some earn Prime after... Honestly for me the only warframe born prime was Nidus because he is symbolic and functionally the Infested frame so his prime is kinda of like the raw Helminth strain with the minimum "genetic" manipulation and stuff. All the others were Prime after, it makes more sense in my opinion.

Now with that out of my head... I can't wait the hear and see the special effects of Xaku's skills; their sounds and if there is any new detail for their "skeleton" mode... like I saw that they have a energy ponytail so the hair could untie while in skeleton mode or something of the sort. Can't wait!

[beebleworkshop]

Somehow I ended up with a helminth charger that is not only taller than my Operator, but almost taller than Nidus

[greisinger]

Knives: Obtained

In my previous post I shared my excitement about finally getting a Helminth invigoration for ability strength to unbind and apply to my Baruuk in pursuit of acquiring as many knives as humanly possible. I mentioned in the previous post that I was hoping I could reach 200 knives. However, I was joking when I said that. I didn’t think that was really attainable, and expected to see somewhere between 120-140 knives at best. It turns out I had set my sights far too low.

By the time all was said and done, my pacifist was running around the stage with 644 knives.

My brother, who had joined the squad to help with this endeavor, described it as both a “hula hoop” and the “rings of Saturn”, both of which are wholly accurate descriptions.

My Shade, on its own, had more than double the knives I originally thought it was even possible to obtain by the end of the mission.

In case anyone is interested, here is the math for it all:

Baruuk ability strength (mods + archon shards): 428% Helminth invigoration: 200% Growing power + 8 drain Coaction drift: 28% Empower: 50% Zenurik Hardened Wellspring: 20% Equinox Peaceful Provocation: 80% Similarly strength-buffed Nidus Parasitic Link: 313% Madurai chained sling: 40% Molt augmented at full buff: 60% Molt vigor: 45% Power Donation x2: 60%

Total before void corruption: 1,324% ability strength Total with void corruption: 2,648% ability strength

There are some things we could have done to squeeze out just a little more ability strength. A fourth squad member running Power Donation, a couple more tau-forged crimson archon shards to replace the basic crimson shards, and Energy Conversion on Baruuk, for example. If I ever feel possessed to do this again, I have a whole list of things to do differently. But I think I’ll be riding the high of having nearly 650 knives for a long time.

[spidersface]

okay im writing this out

i need to get this out of my brain, and this is what tumblr is for. personal theories on future protoframes/viability of frames getting protos/other nonsense relating to these ideas/headcanon shlock (used wiki/leverian/CorgTheMighty's videos on youtube)

SPOILERS TO THE CURRENT PATCH AS OF 01.03.2025

Xaku: I would be absolutely blown away if they decide to give Xaku a protoframe/1999 treatment. Excal, Volt, Mag, Trinity, Nyx, Cyte-09 (only cuz he was made for this,) Rhino, Loki, Oberon, Saryn, and Wisp are perfect for the Protoframe/1999 treatment because they're a little lore light, and purportedly originate from one individual. I think IF they wanted to do Protoframe things with Xaku they should do some knife twisting: give us doomed timeline of three friends, where only the Drifter/Operator knows who they become eventually- maybe even tease us with who the original three frames were. Getting to know what the names/designs would've been for the three would be so sick.

(rest of my musings under the cut)

Nidus: I think if and or when we would ever see anything for Nidus in this regard, it would be a rewrite/update for his lore and showing us what the process of being infected by the Helminth strain is like/the unique circumstance how it fucked up during the creation of Nidus. Again I think we've seen/know what happens with being infected by the Helminth strain, but idk. I think DE would seize an opportunity like that to really stretch their ick ability. I imagine Nidus pre-helminth/during experimentation is already sickly or had a job/exposure to large amounts of what eventually would've become Helminth before it was called that. Maybe even helped originate Helminth, was then drafted by the Orokin to fight.

Hydroid/Yareli: [[this is some heacanon stuff,]] the Aquaframes are weird in my brain. Their aesthetic/vibe seems so different from the rest of the frames, and in my mind also would lend themselves to having unique Protoframe treatments. I kind of almost want like a completely random side quest where we get to see their originator/proto forms at sea? Something, something fused with ocean beasts during Helminth infection, something, something, Sevagoth was the reason Hydroid was infected, betraying their light banter they had before/leading to their rivalry as frames.

Mirage: Considering the little we know about her process/what happened as she was being transformed into Mirage, i'd be interested to see her in a 'second batch/team' from 1999. The Harley Quinn/Therese Voerman of originators would be an interesting angle for her I feel, clown woman that was a scientist in sedation, twisted by Entrati.

Rhino: I just want a big hunky muscle man, and him to be part of Mirage's '1999 mk2' team. Maybe a fat guy would be cool too. Idk, when I see rhino my serious thinking brain turns off. Considering he's a protector, maybe he was part of a mission elsewhere in the universe of Hollvania where Entrati enacts some other secret third thing that causes a Hex pt.2 (Dream 'Hex Team Two' would be: Mirage, Rhino, Saryn, Loki, Equinox (counting them as two sep people before framification,) and Chroma or Caliban (since both have weirdly similar elements lore wise.))

Qorvex/Xaku: Considering these two are some of the explicitly "non-Ballas/Orokin" devised Warframes to have been created, I'd be interested in just more insight as to how they came to be. My personal headcanon is still that these two represent Albrecht and Loid somehow, or are derived from them in some fashion. Especially considering how we are introduced to Loid/how Loid exists in current lore. Is it too out there to say that Xaku is alternate alternate timeline Loid, stuffed into a frame with other important members of Entrati's lab/team in desperation to create a frame? I feel like Dante + Lavos would fit into this group as well...

Citrine: I just find her interesting because outside of her ALREADY existing by the time she's assigned to protect Belric + Rania, what do you mean she can turn living organic tissue into crystal??? or encase said tissue in crystal? what during proto/origination caused her to be able to do that, or conversely what happened during her infection with the hstrain?

[infestedslime]

"#taking this to mean all the other frames are made from guys the orokin pulled off the street" Can confirm, my Volt Prime was a rebel leader so his approach to guns is probably 50% improv, and my Nidus Prime was an infested scientist who prefers to just throw shit at people as a means of combat. Between the Orokin method of "you were too cool to be friends with us so we're giving you infested juice" and a bunch of teenagers with magic powers, gun safety is probably an ancient, half-forgotten myth

Oh man, sorry I never noticed this. I guess I should check my inbox a bit more often lol. But yeah I love thinking about who frames might’ve been before being infected with the helminth. I also appreciate that some of the prime trailers give little hints about their personalities/backstories but never say anything definitive so you have room for interpretation.

[gaogaigar-the-king]

15. How do you come up with titles for your fics/chapters?

19. Give us a small teaser from one of your WIPs.

15. How do you come up with titles for your fics/chapters?

Staring at the fic/chapter ready to publish it, desperately hoping some idea of what to name it will come to me. The only exception to this is Among Us Gone Wrong where I named the chapters in advance because I'd pre-planned where I wanted the base story to go.

19. Give us a small teaser from one of your WIPs.

"Wake Nidus up." They instructed. There was another moment of unresponsiveness, but then the Helminth gurgled something. The thin tendrils receded, disappearing from sight.

Nidus twitched. Slowly, his senses woke one by one. Likely touch first, feeding him information about the cool metal under his left arm and hands, contrasted with the patch of Helminth's Infested growth he was lying in and the warm air in the Infirmary. After that would be sound, the sound of the Helminth gurgling, their soft breathing and other things only his senses could pick up. Smell would probably come next, his perception battered by the unfamiliar scents of the Orbiter.

A confused, disorientated whine came from under Nidus' armour as he moved, weakly pushing himself up onto his hands and knees. They could tell the moment that he saw them. He froze on the spot, his fear clear in his body language before he pushed himself off the floor, stumbling backwards and plastering his body against the wall.

They raised their right arm, holding it outstretched in front of them, palm facing upwards. After that they didn't move, just waited.

[alteredsilicone]

Thinking of Warframes who retain their humanity/personality but they're still not the person they used to be, the Orokin made sure to brainwash and break the person to make them succumb to the Helminth. Even if you retain your sense of "self" you will be a subjective interpretation of yourself. Some cases are exceptions, like Umbra, Ballas made sure he is powered by one intense memory (the death of his son). Jade can be a similar example - she was powered by her desire to see her son be born, which is why she forgot what her real name was but clung to her child as an anchor to her old self. Annd I can use this to rotate sentient-frame OCs in my mind.. how did the person who got Warframe'd morph into a different persona. Voland the Nidus is an Umbra case, where he overcame the infestation and retained his memories and original sense of self. He was initially vengeful but learned to channel his powers in a less destructive way by co-existing with the Myconians. Eir as Dante retained his desire for writing… but he forgot that he used to be a composer, so he instead he became a Scribe, but his artistic and melodic way of writing was preserved through the transformation.

[riftwalker-limbro]

I'm popping this in here instead of discord bc it's more Hey How Does This Mechanic Work so it might as well get rambled onto here if you so choose: nidus mutation stacks. Or the change in appearance they bring anyway. What is the change tied to for Pule?

i love the idea behind this. redirecting the lore rambles back to the original channels jdfhbgjhbg

ok i've actually been thinking about this a Decent Bit. passively rotating pule. so HERE

the first vibes i ever got about the Meat appearing were 1. vampirism and 2. meat as Energy Storage. needless to say i don't think pule's abilities work the same as canon nidus'. i think pule's abilities would require a mix of (not necessarily the same quantity of) regular warframe energy & mutation energy, if not outright just the mutation energy. love the funky warframes in canon that already say energy Whomst. the stomp still works the same, for the tentacle thing on his 2 he has to throw one of the seed pods from his friendolier, and just throw Way More for his 4. mutation stacks + energy in general are needed for regrowing Friend Seeds.

helminth strain & the infestation in general does some Fucky Wucky things with life & meat and tbh i don't feel like figuring out that exact link right now so i'm just gonna. leave that There. but i do have notes on other things

the Extra Meat does decay over time bc of Entropy - it just dissipates over time bc Shrug. it's a bit volatile, not very stable.

he Gets the energy still by killing enemies i think, or otherwise forcing a link to drain the life out of them - haven't played him recently but i think that's pretty directly how one of his abilities works? the conversion rate from A Whole Being's Life Force to Meat Stacks is pretty shit which is why he needs to eat many before he can do much with the energy he's gained. could he use this to be a giant dick in non-combat settings? perhaps but i don't think he would just bc of his Personality, not even if it was... worst-case scenario, some grineer leader in negotiations?

one additional funny thing is. you can't just energy-vampirism your way through a battlefield and grow a whole layer of meat on you without Mental Consequences. and i'm talking the helminth infestation on him gaining sentience the higher his mutation stacks get, or perhaps voices of the souls he sucked up whole. maybe both. the higher his mutation stacks get, the harder it is to remain in control. it does have an advantage - the helminth has some Good Instincts about combat and is generally ruthless & very scary & does recognise warframes as allies (humans, though?). and the specific effect this has on pule is not just "pule vs the helminth in his head" but more along the lines of "pule IS the helminth and he just gets a little feral on the battlefield, might want to stay a bit out of his way". you try & talk to him but he's dazed, distracted, wanting to just keep going and kill more shit. at a high enough point he will holster his guns and just go with the claws (it is a crying shame that almost no warframes get to just rip shit apart with their bare hands)

due to the entropic nature of these energy-meats he does calm down pretty quickly once extracted from combat. the physical battle does tire him out as normal but if he got particularly high stacks he might also be mentally tired/get a headache afterwards.

he doesn't like getting Fully out of control but a little bit is Definitely Fun & Certainly Useful.

funny contrast now that i'm writing this out is also. where vince is a liability in direct combat bc he's just Bad at it, pule is a liability in combat because he gets Too Good at it.