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Mary and the Cross
As you know, I'm Orthodox, so I practice Marian veneration and have for a while. But today was the day it really made sense to me - when it went from "I understand why we do this" to "Of course we do this."
I was doing some volunteer work, and the thought came to me:
Mary was the beginning of Christ's redemptive work, and the cross the climax of it. Since we extensively use the cross as a symbol, speak of it reverently, reference it prolifically in our hymns and liturgies and talk about it as "the power of God", of course we should fill our churches with pictures of Mary, talk about her reverently, reference her prolifically in our hymns and liturgies and talk about her as "the power of God."
#nice post for orthodox and roman catholics#food for thought for my followers who aren't#virgin mary#theotokos#christianity#orthodox
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As a catholic who loves the eastern church, I really encourage you to look into the eastern rite Catholic Churches. We can still love Byzantine theology without breaking loyalty to the Holy Father. <3 Please sis don’t leave
Thank you for the message, I appreciate you're trying to be nice.
I have actually attended an Eastern Catholic Church here in Scotland, it was a Ukrainian one. I actually dragged an Orthodox friend along to a Mass there once lol, he was the first person to welcome me when I attended Divine Liturgy in an Orthodox Church years later. Funny world really.
But ultimately, Eastern Catholic Churches aren't 'Orthodox but submitting to the Pope'. And my interest in Orthodoxy goes beyond just the iconography of the Churches or the way they conduct their Masses (which also wouldn't be The Latin Mass but in X or Y language).
If one has contentions with this or that Catholic teaching, they would not find that the Eastern Catholic Church could offer an alternative to that teaching. And it would be unfair to both the Eastern Catholic and Orthodox Churches to really treat them as such, especially given that Eastern Catholic Churches are often othered and looked down upon to begin with by some people. For example, Eastern Catholic Churches ultimately recognise papal infallibility whereas Orthodox Churches do not. Eastern Catholics recognise the Saints of the Roman Catholic Church post-Schism and Orthodox Churches do not. Eastern Catholics ultimately believe in the teachings and Dogmas of the Catholic Church. And while there are certainly some crossover between those beliefs and the Orthodox Church, there are also a lot of differences. Certainly more differences between Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism than just the issue of papal infallibility and aesthetics.
But ultimately for me, I'm exploring Orthodoxy. And the way in which I learn best is by first going to the source - What do Orthodox Christians have to say about Orthodox Christianity? Leading onto what would Orthodox Christians say about the Roman Catholic Church? Before finally arriving at what do Catholics have to say about the Orthodox Church? And faith is ultimately something that is lived. You can't just read a book, blog post, or watch a video and expect to understand the faith. It's something you need to participate in, and immerse yourself in. Which is why I've started attending Divine Liturgy and using prayers found in Orthodox prayer books, and conversing with Orthodox Christians. Which at the very least, is an improvement from when I was unable to go to Church, or neglected my prayers, and didn't have religious people in my life to speak to.
Obviously this is a huge oversimplification, and I obviously don't expect to 'solve' the great schism. But I want to better understand where I'm feeling called to, and why. And I hope that this blog can at least serve as some help for others who might be in the same or similar position. Ultimately the end is not yet written. I'm not completely closed off to Catholicism. But if I share my thoughts along the journey, it's certainly better than trying to think about this completely on my own. And like I said, it might help others.
Prayers would obviously be appreciated though, this certainly isn't something I've taken lightly. It's heartbreaking and has made me cry multiple times. It's a lot to grapple with. I'll keep you in my prayers also.
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Hello! I noticed a lot of new followers lately. I'm currently on a hiatus here and elsewhere online. I lost my Mother last year to cancer (uterine leiomyosarcoma which metastasized to the lungs) and I've been taking time the past year to settle matters, grieve, and focus on shrine work in my daily life.
There is some resources and information on this blog but do note this blog spans back to 2015-2016, so please keep in mind some information may be out of date or need revisions.
One thing to note is that I am a Shinto priestess of the Konko faith, which is often hotly debated if it is Shinto, its own religion, a seperate denomination, etc. It even confused me how to define it in the early years - read below for some more explanation. But the short form is that it's a faith within Shinto.
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Formally speaking "Shinto" isn't a formal religious body like Roman Catholicism or Tendai Buddhism, etc. It is just the overarching name for the worship of various Kami's faiths and shrine faiths across Japan.
During the Meiji Era there was the formation of State Shinto and 14 faiths designated as Kyoha / Sect / "Faith" Shinto - where State Shinto were shrines a part of the government, and the 14 Kyoha Shinto faiths were independent and maintained more indigenous Japanese spiritual practices with government approval.
To summarize it extremely simply (it’s far far more complicated) post WWII with the seperation of religion and state and dissolving of State Shinto, one of the past Kyoha Shinto based out of Ise Jingu plus other organizations took up the mantle of the organization of the State Shinto shrines to form Shrine / Jinja Shinto which most but not all of those shrines now fall under.
Tenrikyo and Shinto Taiseikyo branched off of it's Kyoha Shinto designation, while Oomotokyo became a part of it, so in the modern day there is only 12 faiths a part of the Kyoha Shinto association, Konkokyo being one of them.
However in Japan and in a general Japanese religious viewpoint these designations and labels don't really matter, isn't really thought about, and isn't even really known. Even the word "Shinto" is hardly used. It's not like true religious denominations like Zen vs Soto Buddhism or Roman Catholic vs Greek Orthodox Christianity
In daily life, it's simply a matter of what shrine you go to pray at, or rarely, what Kamisama you have faith in. So while before I thought of faiths and these labels as stricter denominations, it's actually not strict at all and every shrine does things a little different, prays to different Kamisama, has no set theistic beliefs and so on.
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In any case thank you for your time and I hope you'll find something useful for your faith journey and/or research. I can be reached via email but I will be very slow to reply (up to a month or more) if not an emergency. Nice to meet everyone🙏🏻🙇🏻♂️
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Holidays 6.1
Holidays
Arrival of the Swiss at Port-Noir (Switzerland)
Artists of America Day
Atlantic Hurricane Season begins
Azores Day
Binky Day
Children’s Day (Germany)
Crop Over begins (Barbados) [until 1st Monday in August]
CSC Social Media Day (India)
Dare Day
Day of Protection of Children’s Rights (Armenia)
Dia da Crianca (Cape Verde)
Dia de la Marina (Mexico)
Dinosaur Day
Disneyland Day
Don't Give Up the Ship Day
Drigh R’Zimb (Elder Scrolls)
Early Bird Day
Famadihana begins (Turning the Bones; Madagascar)
Fei Fei Day (Vancouver, Canada)
Festival of Non-Linearity
First Day of Meteorological Summer (Northern)/Winter (Southern)
Flip A Coin Day
Gawai Dayak begins (Harvest Festival; Sarawak, Malaysia)
Global Day of Parents (UN)
Go Barefoot Day
Gremlins Day
Heimlich Maneuver Day
Helen Keller Day
iHeartRadio Access Day
Intergenerational Day
International Children's Day (Moldova, România)
International Day for Protection of Children
International Fraud Day
International IGBO Day
International Sheltie Day
International Table Top Day
Kaiko Kinenbi (Yokohama Port Opening Festival; Japan)
Madaraka Day (Kenya)
Mothers’ and Children’s Day (Mongolia)
National Billboard Day
National Cloud Database Day
National Day Against Homophobia (Canada)
National Day of Mourning & Lament
National Dinosaurs Day
National Love Island Day
National Maritime Day (Mexico)
National Nail Polish Day
National Pearl Day (UK)
National Pen Pal Day
National Reef Awareness Day
National Roman Day
National Skincare Education Day
National Tree Planting Day (Cambodia)
Neighbours’ Day
New Year’s Resolution Recommitment Day
Nursing Assistant Day
Oscar the Grouch Day
Pancasila Day (Indonesia)
Phi Day (UK)
Pois Day (French Republic)
President’s Day (Palau)
Say Something Nice Day
Service Design Day
Simple Speak Day
Sgt. Pepper Day
Stand For Children Day
St. Lupulin's Day (patron of American hops)
Superman Day
30 Days Wild (UK)
Victory Day (Tunisia)
Wear a Dress Day [also 12.1]
Wear It. Beat It. (f.k.a. Rock Up in Red Day; UK)
White Rabbit Day
WHORS Day (Whoremongers & Harlots Optimal Reformation Services)
World Hypoparathyroidism Awareness Day
World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day
World Outlander Day
World Reef Awareness Day
Yobuko Otsunahiki (Tug-of-War Festival; Japan)
Food & Drink Celebrations
Grog Day
Hazelnut Cake Day
Mint Julep Day (Oxford, UK)
National Olive Day
World Milk Day
1st Thursday in June
International Consultants Day [1st Thursday]
National Moonshine Day [1st Thursday]
Pea Soup Days begin (Wisconsin) [1st Thursday thru Sunday]
Independence Days
Amalgamated Territory of Friends (Declared; 2016) [unrecognized]
Kentucky Statehood Day (#15; 1792)
Malvern and Roslyn (Declared; 2018) [unrecognized]
Patetopia (Declared; 2008) [unrecognized]
People’s reformed States Republic (Declared; 2009) [unrecognized]
Samoa (from New Zealand, 1962)
Tennessee Statehood Day (#16; 1796)
Unironia (Declared; 2011) [unrecognized]
Feast Days
Annibale Maria di Francia (Christian; Saint)
Caprias (Christian; Saint)
Cardea’s Day (Goddess of Hinges and Doorways; Pagan)
Crescentinus (Christian; Saint)
Daniel Boone Day (Church of the SubGenius; Saint)
Festival for Juno Moneta (Goddess of Money; Ancient Rome)
Festival of Carna (Goddess of Health and Vitality, and Doors and Locks; Ancient Rome)
Festival of the Oak Nymph (Celtic/Pagan)
Fortunatus of Spoleto (Christian; Saint)
Frans Post (Artology)
Gawai Dayak Festival (Sarawak)
Go Barefoot Day (Pastafarian)
Herculanus of Piegaro (Christian; Saint)
Íñigo of Oña (Christian; Saint)
Justin Martyr (a.k.a. Justin the Philosopher; Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran)
Kalends of June (Ancient Rome)
Lupulin (CHurch of Beer; Saint) [American Hops]
Maarten van Heemskerck (Artology)
Oscar the Grouch (Muppetism)
Pamphilius (Christian; Saint)
Peter of Pisa (Founder of the Hermits of St. Jerome; Christian; Saint)
St. Pulcheria (Positivist; Saint)
Ronan of Locronan (Christian; Saint)
Tempestas' Day (Goddess of the Storm)
Theobold Roggeri (Christian; Saint) [Porters]
Wistan, Prince of Mercia (Christian; Saint)
Lucky & Unlucky Days
Butsumetsu (仏滅 Japan) [Unlucky all day.]
Unfortunate Day (Pagan) [30 of 57]
Premieres
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, by Mark Twain (Novel; 1876)
Anne of Green Gables, by Lucy Maud Montgomery (Novel; 1908)
The Asphalt Jungle (Film; 1950)
Ball Four, by Jim Bouton (Sports Diary; 1970)
The Borrowers, by Mary Norton (Novel; 1952)
A Cat in Paris (Animated Film; 2012)
The Dream of the Blue Turtles, by Sting (Album; 1985)
Dubliners, by James Joyce (Novel; 1914)
Enema of the State, by Blink-182 (Album; 1999)
Evil Under the Sun, by Agatha Christie (Mystery Novel; 1941) [32]
A Face in the Crowd (Film; 1957)
Fantastic Mr. Fox, by Roald Dahl (Children’s Book; 1970)
Feat of Clay, by Terry Pratchet (Novel; 1996) [Discworld #19]
40 oz. To Freedom, by Sublime (Album; 1992)
The Girl Who Played with Fire, by Stieg Larsson (Novel; 2009) [Millennium Trilogy #2]
Give Peace a Chance, recorded by John Lemmon (Song; 1969)
Goodbye, Mr. Chips, by James Hilton (Novel; 1934)
Gryphon, by Gryphon (Album; 1973)
Halt and Catch Fire (TV Series; 2014)
Hunting High and Low, by A-ha (Album; 1985)
I Put a Spell on You, by Nina Simone (Album; 1965)
Kindred, by Octavia Butler (Novel; 1979)
Knocked Up (Film; 2007)
Mad Dogs and Englishmen, by Noel Coward (Song; 1931)
Main Course, by The Bee Gees (Album; 1975)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (Film; 1956)
Moulin Rouge (Film; 2001)
The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, by Agatha Christie (Mystery Novel; 1926) [6]
Night and Day, by Joe Jackson (Album; 1982)
The Night of the Hunter, by Davis Grubb (Novel; 1954)
Outlander, by Diana Gabaldon (Novel; 1991)
The Parsifal Mosaic, by Robert Ludlum (Novel; 1982)
Phantasm (Film; 1979)
Rainbow Connection, by Kermit the Frog, written by Paul Williams and Kenneth Ascher (Song; 1979)
The Runaways, by The Runaways (Album; 1976)
The Shipping News, by Annie Proulx (Novel; 1993)
Shōgun, by James Clavell (Novel; 1975)
Snow White and the Huntsman (Film; 2012)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (Film; 1984)
The Stranger, by Albert Camus (Novella; 1942)
Stranger in a Strange Land, by Ray Bradbury (Novel; 1961)
Streets of Fire (Film; 1984)
The Tenant of Wildfowl Hall, by Anne Brontë (Novel; 1848)
Total Recall (Film; 1990)
Valley Girl, by Frank and Moon Unit Zappa (Song; 1982)
Venni Vetti Vecci, by Ja Rule (Album; 1999)
Today’s Name Days
Justin, Konrad, Ronan, Silke, Silvana, Simeon (Austria)
Cvjetko, Gaudencije, Justin, Mladen, Slobodan (Croatia)
Laura (Czech Republic)
Nikomedes (Denmark)
Sireli, Sirelin, Sirle, Sirli (Estonia)
Nikodemus, Teemu (Finland)
Justin, Ronan (France)
Silk, Silvana, Simeon (Germany)
Evelpistos, Gerakina, Ierax, Justine, Pyrros, Thespesios (Greece)
Tünde (Hungary)
Benedetto, Giustino, Graziano, Lia (Italy)
Astrids, Biruta, Junite, Mairita (Latvia)
Galindė, Jogaila, Juvencijus, Konradas (Lithuania)
June, Juni (Norway)
Alfons, Alfonsyna, Bernard, Fortunat, Gracjana, Hortensjusz, Jakub, Konrad, Konrada, Magdalena, Nikodem, Świętopełk, Symeon (Poland)
Iustin (România)
Alexandra, Faina, Julia (Russia)
Žaneta (Slovakia)
Aníbal, Floro, Justino, Luz (Spain)
Gun, Gunnel, Nikodemus (Sweden)
Clara, Justin, Valerian (Ukraine)
Brigham, June, Junella, Mari, Marilee, Marilou, Marileena, Marilena, Marilu, Marilyn, Marylynn (USA)
Today is Also…
Day of Year: Day 152 of 2024; 213 days remaining in the year
ISO: Day 4 of week 22 of 2023
Celtic Tree Calendar: Huath (Hawthorn) [Day 18 of 28]
Chinese: Month 4 (Ding-Si), Day 14 (Geng-Yin)
Chinese Year of the: Rabbit 4721 (until February 10, 2024)
Hebrew: 12 Sivan 5783
Islamic: 12 Dhu al-Qada 1444
J Cal: 2 Sol; Twosday [2 of 30]
Julian: 19 May 2023
Moon: 92%: Waxing Gibbous
Positivist: 12 St. Paul (6th Month) [St. Pulcheria]
Runic Half Month: Odal (Home, Possession) [Day 7 of 15]
Season: Spring (Day 73 of 90)
Zodiac: Gemini (Day 11 of 32)
Calendar Changes
June (Gregorian Calendar) [Month 6 of 12]
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Holidays 6.1
Holidays
Arrival of the Swiss at Port-Noir (Switzerland)
Artists of America Day
Atlantic Hurricane Season begins
Azores Day
Binky Day
Children’s Day (Germany)
Crop Over begins (Barbados) [until 1st Monday in August]
CSC Social Media Day (India)
Dare Day
Day of Protection of Children’s Rights (Armenia)
Dia da Crianca (Cape Verde)
Dia de la Marina (Mexico)
Dinosaur Day
Disneyland Day
Don't Give Up the Ship Day
Drigh R’Zimb (Elder Scrolls)
Early Bird Day
Famadihana begins (Turning the Bones; Madagascar)
Fei Fei Day (Vancouver, Canada)
Festival of Non-Linearity
First Day of Meteorological Summer (Northern)/Winter (Southern)
Flip A Coin Day
Gawai Dayak begins (Harvest Festival; Sarawak, Malaysia)
Global Day of Parents (UN)
Go Barefoot Day
Gremlins Day
Heimlich Maneuver Day
Helen Keller Day
iHeartRadio Access Day
Intergenerational Day
International Children's Day (Moldova, România)
International Day for Protection of Children
International Fraud Day
International IGBO Day
International Sheltie Day
International Table Top Day
Kaiko Kinenbi (Yokohama Port Opening Festival; Japan)
Madaraka Day (Kenya)
Mothers’ and Children’s Day (Mongolia)
National Billboard Day
National Cloud Database Day
National Day Against Homophobia (Canada)
National Day of Mourning & Lament
National Dinosaurs Day
National Love Island Day
National Maritime Day (Mexico)
National Nail Polish Day
National Pearl Day (UK)
National Pen Pal Day
National Reef Awareness Day
National Roman Day
National Skincare Education Day
National Tree Planting Day (Cambodia)
Neighbours’ Day
New Year’s Resolution Recommitment Day
Nursing Assistant Day
Oscar the Grouch Day
Pancasila Day (Indonesia)
Phi Day (UK)
Pois Day (French Republic)
President’s Day (Palau)
Say Something Nice Day
Service Design Day
Simple Speak Day
Sgt. Pepper Day
Stand For Children Day
St. Lupulin's Day (patron of American hops)
Superman Day
30 Days Wild (UK)
Victory Day (Tunisia)
Wear a Dress Day [also 12.1]
Wear It. Beat It. (f.k.a. Rock Up in Red Day; UK)
White Rabbit Day
WHORS Day (Whoremongers & Harlots Optimal Reformation Services)
World Hypoparathyroidism Awareness Day
World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day
World Outlander Day
World Reef Awareness Day
Yobuko Otsunahiki (Tug-of-War Festival; Japan)
Food & Drink Celebrations
Grog Day
Hazelnut Cake Day
Mint Julep Day (Oxford, UK)
National Olive Day
World Milk Day
1st Thursday in June
International Consultants Day [1st Thursday]
National Moonshine Day [1st Thursday]
Pea Soup Days begin (Wisconsin) [1st Thursday thru Sunday]
Independence Days
Amalgamated Territory of Friends (Declared; 2016) [unrecognized]
Kentucky Statehood Day (#15; 1792)
Malvern and Roslyn (Declared; 2018) [unrecognized]
Patetopia (Declared; 2008) [unrecognized]
People’s reformed States Republic (Declared; 2009) [unrecognized]
Samoa (from New Zealand, 1962)
Tennessee Statehood Day (#16; 1796)
Unironia (Declared; 2011) [unrecognized]
Feast Days
Annibale Maria di Francia (Christian; Saint)
Caprias (Christian; Saint)
Cardea’s Day (Goddess of Hinges and Doorways; Pagan)
Crescentinus (Christian; Saint)
Daniel Boone Day (Church of the SubGenius; Saint)
Festival for Juno Moneta (Goddess of Money; Ancient Rome)
Festival of Carna (Goddess of Health and Vitality, and Doors and Locks; Ancient Rome)
Festival of the Oak Nymph (Celtic/Pagan)
Fortunatus of Spoleto (Christian; Saint)
Frans Post (Artology)
Gawai Dayak Festival (Sarawak)
Go Barefoot Day (Pastafarian)
Herculanus of Piegaro (Christian; Saint)
Íñigo of Oña (Christian; Saint)
Justin Martyr (a.k.a. Justin the Philosopher; Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran)
Kalends of June (Ancient Rome)
Lupulin (CHurch of Beer; Saint) [American Hops]
Maarten van Heemskerck (Artology)
Oscar the Grouch (Muppetism)
Pamphilius (Christian; Saint)
Peter of Pisa (Founder of the Hermits of St. Jerome; Christian; Saint)
St. Pulcheria (Positivist; Saint)
Ronan of Locronan (Christian; Saint)
Tempestas' Day (Goddess of the Storm)
Theobold Roggeri (Christian; Saint) [Porters]
Wistan, Prince of Mercia (Christian; Saint)
Lucky & Unlucky Days
Butsumetsu (仏滅 Japan) [Unlucky all day.]
Unfortunate Day (Pagan) [30 of 57]
Premieres
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, by Mark Twain (Novel; 1876)
Anne of Green Gables, by Lucy Maud Montgomery (Novel; 1908)
The Asphalt Jungle (Film; 1950)
Ball Four, by Jim Bouton (Sports Diary; 1970)
The Borrowers, by Mary Norton (Novel; 1952)
A Cat in Paris (Animated Film; 2012)
The Dream of the Blue Turtles, by Sting (Album; 1985)
Dubliners, by James Joyce (Novel; 1914)
Enema of the State, by Blink-182 (Album; 1999)
Evil Under the Sun, by Agatha Christie (Mystery Novel; 1941) [32]
A Face in the Crowd (Film; 1957)
Fantastic Mr. Fox, by Roald Dahl (Children’s Book; 1970)
Feat of Clay, by Terry Pratchet (Novel; 1996) [Discworld #19]
40 oz. To Freedom, by Sublime (Album; 1992)
The Girl Who Played with Fire, by Stieg Larsson (Novel; 2009) [Millennium Trilogy #2]
Give Peace a Chance, recorded by John Lemmon (Song; 1969)
Goodbye, Mr. Chips, by James Hilton (Novel; 1934)
Gryphon, by Gryphon (Album; 1973)
Halt and Catch Fire (TV Series; 2014)
Hunting High and Low, by A-ha (Album; 1985)
I Put a Spell on You, by Nina Simone (Album; 1965)
Kindred, by Octavia Butler (Novel; 1979)
Knocked Up (Film; 2007)
Mad Dogs and Englishmen, by Noel Coward (Song; 1931)
Main Course, by The Bee Gees (Album; 1975)
The Man Who Knew Too Much (Film; 1956)
Moulin Rouge (Film; 2001)
The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, by Agatha Christie (Mystery Novel; 1926) [6]
Night and Day, by Joe Jackson (Album; 1982)
The Night of the Hunter, by Davis Grubb (Novel; 1954)
Outlander, by Diana Gabaldon (Novel; 1991)
The Parsifal Mosaic, by Robert Ludlum (Novel; 1982)
Phantasm (Film; 1979)
Rainbow Connection, by Kermit the Frog, written by Paul Williams and Kenneth Ascher (Song; 1979)
The Runaways, by The Runaways (Album; 1976)
The Shipping News, by Annie Proulx (Novel; 1993)
Shōgun, by James Clavell (Novel; 1975)
Snow White and the Huntsman (Film; 2012)
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (Film; 1984)
The Stranger, by Albert Camus (Novella; 1942)
Stranger in a Strange Land, by Ray Bradbury (Novel; 1961)
Streets of Fire (Film; 1984)
The Tenant of Wildfowl Hall, by Anne Brontë (Novel; 1848)
Total Recall (Film; 1990)
Valley Girl, by Frank and Moon Unit Zappa (Song; 1982)
Venni Vetti Vecci, by Ja Rule (Album; 1999)
Today’s Name Days
Justin, Konrad, Ronan, Silke, Silvana, Simeon (Austria)
Cvjetko, Gaudencije, Justin, Mladen, Slobodan (Croatia)
Laura (Czech Republic)
Nikomedes (Denmark)
Sireli, Sirelin, Sirle, Sirli (Estonia)
Nikodemus, Teemu (Finland)
Justin, Ronan (France)
Silk, Silvana, Simeon (Germany)
Evelpistos, Gerakina, Ierax, Justine, Pyrros, Thespesios (Greece)
Tünde (Hungary)
Benedetto, Giustino, Graziano, Lia (Italy)
Astrids, Biruta, Junite, Mairita (Latvia)
Galindė, Jogaila, Juvencijus, Konradas (Lithuania)
June, Juni (Norway)
Alfons, Alfonsyna, Bernard, Fortunat, Gracjana, Hortensjusz, Jakub, Konrad, Konrada, Magdalena, Nikodem, Świętopełk, Symeon (Poland)
Iustin (România)
Alexandra, Faina, Julia (Russia)
Žaneta (Slovakia)
Aníbal, Floro, Justino, Luz (Spain)
Gun, Gunnel, Nikodemus (Sweden)
Clara, Justin, Valerian (Ukraine)
Brigham, June, Junella, Mari, Marilee, Marilou, Marileena, Marilena, Marilu, Marilyn, Marylynn (USA)
Today is Also…
Day of Year: Day 152 of 2024; 213 days remaining in the year
ISO: Day 4 of week 22 of 2023
Celtic Tree Calendar: Huath (Hawthorn) [Day 18 of 28]
Chinese: Month 4 (Ding-Si), Day 14 (Geng-Yin)
Chinese Year of the: Rabbit 4721 (until February 10, 2024)
Hebrew: 12 Sivan 5783
Islamic: 12 Dhu al-Qada 1444
J Cal: 2 Sol; Twosday [2 of 30]
Julian: 19 May 2023
Moon: 92%: Waxing Gibbous
Positivist: 12 St. Paul (6th Month) [St. Pulcheria]
Runic Half Month: Odal (Home, Possession) [Day 7 of 15]
Season: Spring (Day 73 of 90)
Zodiac: Gemini (Day 11 of 32)
Calendar Changes
June (Gregorian Calendar) [Month 6 of 12]
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Basic Guide on How Not To: Slavic Characters
Well, as most of you have probably realised by now, I’m Polish. Truthfully, I am quite upset now. I generally tend to avoid most content involving Slavic people, because well, stereotypes are plentiful and I have only one stomach - there is only so much anger I can fit inside of it. However, this time I was merrily watching an episode of a series, for goodnight sleep, and got smacked in the face with just that... So, I suppose, let’s use my anger towards something - hopefully - productive. This is a very hard post for me to write. It may be closer to my personal experience, although I did try to be more general.
Contents:
Where Do I Even Begin or Sad Slav Filter
Common Stereotypes - Professions & Jobs
Common Stereotypes - Characteristics
Few basic issues with languages & names
Where Do I Even Begin or Sad Slav Filter
Grey buildings, empty plazas, ominous blocks of flats with walls up to the very sky. Snow. Gloom faces. Dark nights. Red. Gold.
To start with, be aware that this sort of image is oftentimes not only written into stories or presented in picture-based media, but that I had the displeasure of seeing it being used for cover art for several books.
What I jokingly call sad Slav filter is presenting the reality of Eastern Europe* through, well, pessimistic glasses. The architecture speaks of terror, of being post-communist state, of never having recovered. The streets portrayed in such fashion are gloom, unwelcoming, threatening in a way. Winter is oftentimes the season of choice, to add an extra layer of depressive atmosphere and cold. Nobody smiles. One may say that usage of gold and red brightens the image - however, those connect directly to the communist flag, thus locking the entire space in a rather obvious context.
The reality?
Yes, old blocks of flats built in 60s or so still exist. Some are even grey and in dire need of being re-painted! However... Many are not in such a state. In Poland, the common colours for elevation of such buildings are white, pastel orange, pastel yellow and pastel green, oftentimes put together in combination of stripes or other geometric shapes. What also should be noted is that such estates were designed with plenty trees and other plants around them in mind, as to accommodate for a development of a community - especially for older blocks of flats, those are most likely situated nearby a primary school and a kindergarten, not to mention stores and other services. It is not uncommon for playgrounds to be present as well. You could also expect small flower gardens.
Parks exist here. Architecture does not begin and end at the blocks of flats, especially not in the major cities - most, if not all, have old towns or historical representative streets. Buildings dating back to medieval still do exist in plenty of places. Churches & Tserkovs - those are oftentimes tourists sites for a reason!
It may happen that the side of a building will be decorated with a mural. It is not very common, but does happen. Here are some examples (from Poland). The designs sometimes relate to other works of art, or to some forms of traditional art.
mural by NeSpoon, a street artist who incorporates motives of koronka ludowa [a type of lace] into her artwork
Overall, I come from a poorer region of Poland, from a small town to add to that. The one thing I would list about it? Flower gardens. All of my neighbours had flower gardens in front of their houses. In the recent years, I’ve seen plenty of new houses being built, plenty of renovations being made. Especially in spring and summer, it is all far from grey. Some major cities started investing in fields of wild flowers, as to aid pollinators. And winters? Well, the way it should be (as climate change shows and I have not seen a proper winter in a while), they should be snowy. Yes, it may involve a rather depressing image, at least in places where snow cannot just rest over the ground and glitter... But I do think it may be the case in plenty parts of Europe, as winter days are overall shorter as well, which hardly helps :”) Eastern Europe as a region is not locked in an eternal winter.
People may not be smiling, but they are not frowning either - it is the... Neutral resting face.
*- that being said, Eastern Europe is not inhabited only by Slavic people, even if it is often presented like so
Common Stereotypes - Professions & Jobs
List of common stereotypical jobs/professions usually performed by characters of Slavic descent:
a member of a mafia (Russian mafia)
a drug dealer
a spy
a prostitute
a maid / a cleaner
As you can see, nearly all of those involve crime, the only exception being a maid / a cleaner (which, I’d argue, speaks of a lower socio-economic status). If you do not plan to have more than one Slavic character in your work, I advise you to avoid those - especially if you wanted to make your character Russian. I do not think I have to explain why representing a group of people nearly exclusively as criminals is hurtful.
Certain stereotypes exist in media. They do influence the reality. I have seen covers of books about spy programs (non-fiction, referencing an issue from 2000s) which involved clear references to communism (+ used the most hideous Sad Slav Filter I have ever seen). The title suggested all Russians are spies. This is not okay.
If you want to have a character who is performing any of the above, and want to make them Slavic, but then never have their heritage influence anything about them - ask yourself why.
EDIT: Do allow me to also add that being a sex-worker may not be a choice for all Slavic women. Sex-trafficking of Eastern Europeans is a real issue. You should be mindful of that when writing a story - even more so as it affects some countries more than others. Research is due.
Common Stereotypes - Characteristics
Common hurtful characteristics in depicting slavic characters:
uneducated or otherwise stupid
rude, loud, uncultured, violent
an alcoholic / addicted to drugs
extremely conservative / religious
Do I have to explain it? Yes, alcoholism is a social issue, same as addiction to drugs. Yes, some people are conservative and / or religious. However! We are not a monolith! Social issues are not the general rule!
Scale of conservativeness and religiousness also differs greatly by age group and region. In Poland we have an entire category of practising atheists - non-believers, usually from smaller communities, who appear in church once or twice a year, despite not believing. Due to social pressure. What religion? This differs greatly too! Roman catholic, Greek orthodox, Muslim? Slavic people are not a monolith.
(about women specifically):
beautiful (must put plenty effort in her physical appearance)
looks for a rich (western) husband
submissive
obedient
Well. This ties into the greater issue of objectification and sexualisation of Slavic and Eastern European women. Admittedly, such portrayal [including all of those] is more so present in online spaces, if you turn a few wrong corners down the roads of the internet :) It is dehumanising.
If your Slavic character happens to be a woman and must be extremely sexy femme fatal spy - this reeks of stereotypes.
Few basic issues with languages & names
As I’ve hinted already, it appears that oftentimes Slavic = Russian. This, however, is not true, both language-wise and culture-wise. Despite sharing some common elements, Slavic cultures do differ. Polish characters, unless they are 50+ years old, won’t generally speak Russian. Czech and Ukrainian are different. Ukrainian is not just another version of Russian.
I decided to single out this paragraph for one reason: authors oftentimes do not bother to check for appropriate names and just use whatever seems right. If you want to write a Slavic character, do make some research.
The common mess-ups I’ve seen:
inappropriate form of the surname (about Russian surnames in particular; giving a woman a male version of the surname, giving a man the female version of the surname - Slavic languages are heavily gendered!)
claiming a character is of nationality B, while giving them a surname which is most definitely speaking of nationality A (e.g: Polish character with a clearly Hungarian name & surname)
wrong spelling
using very rare forms of names for all the characters written into the story (it sounds very unnatural - in one particular case it seemed to have been done on purpose, as I’ve had to google whether some names were even names. They were used as code names for few organisations during WWII. That sort of uncommon).
nicknames derived from the actual names that would not work at all (Żegota -> Zeg; It just would not work like this. It would be literally more likely for a character named Żegota to be nicknamed/renamed Staszek than for somebody to call him Zeg. It does not only not include the ż sound, but it also ends with g - which a Polish person would simplify to k when speaking. In other words Zeg -> zek. This, meanwhile, is not only not exactly pleasant to say, but it also sounds like a grammatical form of another word, albeit pronounced with a heavy lisp - “river”; It is possible to find appropriate nicknames online).
Also, unless you want for some character to be a dick, do not make them purposefully mispronounce the name of a Slavic character or have them name them after an object/thing. (Calling “Maciej” by “Magic” because they can’t be bothered to learn to pronounce the name or at least try to get it close is not nice).
#lorei spoke#honestly i had to take a couple breaks while writing this#because some of those affected my family living abroad directly and </3#i was completely not in a mood for any stereotypes today </3
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OB Rewatch: One Fettered Slave
I wonder if Helena’s boys will ever play with Barbies.
You can read my first watch review here: https://lobsters-on-their-heads.tumblr.com/post/163868739386/one-fettered-slave .
I loved (not very much, actually)
Badass Art. Thankfully, I was wrong during my first watch when I thought that Art wouldn’t survive the series.
I liked (a few things)
You know Art makes a killer turkey chili. I hope he brings it to Clone Club get-togethers forevermore.
Scott coming to babysit Rachel, especially with his little “Hello Rachel.”
“We’re back in the frigid blue arms of the police.”
Felix prancing in on the Al Khatib / Frontenac meeting with a cheery “Hello!” He’s lucky he wasn’t killed, though.
Rachel correcting Al Khatib when he refers to Helena as “the science.”
Sarah’s low-makeup look
I didn’t like (quite a lot of things)
Not gonna lie, I skipped the nun masturbation scene. The realism (of the act itself, not of a nun masturbating and a child catching her) stretched things. Realistically, she should have been quieter, even not knowing someone was in the room. She’d only just started, after all, and she was used to doing it on the DL. Plus, I really hate linking female sexuality and sexual pleasure with Bad Women.
Habree Larratt did a killer job as young Helena. It’s just really unfortunately they did get Cynthia Galant for it. And if any of TPTB claim, “oh, Cynthia just couldn’t handle the scenes,” they could have worked around that.
Mark, again. Here’s what I hate about Mark - His only motivation is Gracie, but we saw almost nothing of him and Gracie as a happy, healthy couple that would make us root for either of them or them as a couple. Delphine’s main motivation is Cosima, but we saw them together quite a bit before Delphine started her “anything for Cosima” phase, and Delphine has other motivations. Also, Cophine had, like, chemistry. That helped.
Westmoreland pulling off his wig to reveal the liver spotted bald head of a BadGuy(TM). Come on, TPTB, you can do better than this.
Westboreland’s whole “the Future is Female!” shouting in the weird round room (that we’d never seen before and never saw again) while Mark paced overhead. It reeks of “this will make a great clip for the preview!”
Again, I hate characters telling each other “how insane this plan is.” Show us that it’s insane, and you won’t need to tell us.
Helena’s flashbacks weren’t melded well with the present day scenes. Not all of Cosima’s were, either, but hey, I didn’t mind because Cophine. We didn’t learn much that enriched Helena’s character, either.
The Sarah-as-Rachel / Westmoreland confrontation. Too squicky for me.
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“Felix says she hasn’t even cried yet.” That’s actually not super unusual, for people like Sarah and people not like Sarah. Grief is weird like that. Plus, it’s only been, like, two days, max.
Quite possibly the first time Felix has spoken to a nun.
One of the things that makes Tomas so creepy is that we don’t know everything he did to Helena. The imagination can fill in the gaps. It’s better that way.
There was quite a long time gap between Sister Irena showing Sarah the book and her telling Adele that there was blood in Helena’s room. Considering that Enger shot Gracie in the head, I expect there quite a lot of blood in that room, so she would have “said” so sooner.
I know a lot of medical gloves are blue, but every time I see them on BadGuys(TM), I think of River Tam -- “Two by two, hands of blue.”
I have mixed feelings about Art killing Frontenac. It carries a lot of weight as Art’s first on-screen kill, and possibly his first ever. Then there was his softly said “damnit” after confirming that it was indeed a kill. It also says a lot about their relationship that he called Sarah first. Echoes of Beth calling him first.
I envy Mark his death -- not the actual death, but the means. It’d be good to go without knowing it was happening. Just fall asleep thinking about something nice...
Interesting indeed that Helena recognized her own face in the clone she killed in the church. I didn’t get the impression that Tomas provided her with a ton of mirror access, after all. She was probably lucky to have a functional sink. It was pretty obvious, though, that Tomas was totally caught off guard by her recognition and reaction, and thought fast to call her the original.
Helena closed the dead clone’s eyes and rested her hand on her for a sec.
Really interesting that Helena starts cutting (her back, at least) after killing for the first time and “learning” that she’s “the original.”
Kira definitely heard Art saying “Third option, I pull the trigger for the second time today.”
Echo of Season 1 with Helena using what’s on hand to bring something closer.
Ho boy does Dyad have shitty security. I know for most places the security is more theater than function, but for fuck’s sake, Hell Wizard’s id sleeve is literally empty.
That was a damn sturdy tray table Helena banged Coady’s face into, to do so much damage to the head without knocking over the tray first.
I have questions
Siobhan’s letter was moving and beautiful, but strange. Why did she write it when she did? If she suspected Ferdinand was going to kill her, well, hasn’t she suspected similar things before? Did she write letters like that to her children often?
Helena is in Ukraine, but everything about the nuns screams Western Catholicism. According to Wikipedia, less than 1% of Ukrainians are Roman Catholics, while the majority are Eastern or Ukrainian Orthodox. Ukrainian Orthodox nuns look something like this:
The line, “Delphine gets back tomorrow from France” is spoken the day of Siobhan’s funeral. I doubt very much that Siobhan’s funeral took place several days after her death, and the shortest Toronto-to-Paris flight I found is 7 hours, meaning a half-day of travel alone, so... when the fuck did Delphine leave for France, and what has she done there?
Why? Why the dark dungeon basement for Helena’s delivery / surgery? They had surgery rooms in the hospital wing of Dyad already, so why not go there?
Why is Tomas so insistent that Helena speak English?
Is that Brightborn stuff on Cosima’s desk?
Was suicide Helena’s actual plan, or a plan she was okay with? Because really, Coady could have gotten the babies just fine if Helena died. Maybe Helena didn’t know that? Also, Delphine could have told her that puncturing one wrist wouldn’t be enough to kill herself super quickly, and I suspect Helena knew that, too. I feel like blowing air into her IV would’ve been a surer bet.
Does Dyad even have a pediatric cardio-translant unit?
Is it actually that, uh, splashy when a woman’s water breaks?
I would have liked to have seen:
Delphine at Siobhan’s funeral. Delphine present, at all, even off screen.
Helena’s interactions with other children at the orphanage.
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Why does Judaism not have a central authority - like Catholics have the Papacy etc? Is there any concept of "sacramental" leadership, like how we understand the Pope as Christ's representative/vicar, within Judaism? Or is there a theology that is more collective and egalitarian, communal in action and hermeneutics and understanding what is True. (Obvi Catholics have a very top-down system concerning revelation of Truth from the Magisterium) - sorry if I'm bugging you here! It's all so intriguing
this post is gonna be so very long that it’s just going to go under a big cut and has the like…clarification that i may have made mistakes and i am greatly simplifying some things.
i’ll preface with a nice story:
Hillel, when asked by a prospective convert to Judaism to teach him the whole Torah while he stood on one leg, replied: “That which is hateful unto you do not do to your neighbor. This is the whole of the Torah, The rest is commentary. Now go and study.”
i feel like an answer of all of these questions could maybe take thousands of words and several pages but like the short answer is “no” and “we don’t anymore there’s no temple, but even so the High Priest was not the same or similar to the pope.”
a slightly longer answer, point by point:
Why does Judaism not have a central authority?
There used to be a High Priest, who was the primary authority of the Jewish Temple. However, there is no longer a Temple on the Temple mount, and therefore we do not have a High Priest. Realistically speaking the dome of the rock and the al-aqsa mosque now sit on top of the temple mount and the remains of the temple, and aren’t like….going anywhere. So we won’t see a third temple being built anytime soon, and therefore have no reason to have a high priest.
that’s the most practical answer i can give you. we like, don’t have one because the romans destroyed the temple (and therefore much of the job of the high priest) and tried to end Judaism. we have a holiday about it, where you sit on the floor, fast the whole day, and are sad (this is a very quick description, to give you the idea.)
historically speaking, this move of destroying the temple did not work for the romans. the Jewish people still exist, and the Roman Empire…well…does not. (am israel chai. the people of israel live.)
we have had other things/positions of power and leadership but like…nothing like the pope. Especially because one of the pope’s major jobs has never been like, “prevent my people from all being slaughtered by the local community.” today there are often chief rabbis of various jewish communities in the diaspora, and two representative chief rabbis of the “orthodox” world in Israel who make up the chief rabbinate, and they’re elected for ten years as head of the rabbinate council. i don’t know much about it because it’s A.) in Israel only and B.) i’m not orthodox and C.) also there aren’t really chief rabbis in north america outside of Montreal and also D.) the concept of a chief rabbi is not really mandated in Judaism, since in theory all rabbis have the same amount of authority.
Is there any concept of “sacramental” leadership, like how we understand the Pope as Christ’s representative/vicar, within Judaism?
we don’t like…we don’t…
okay let’s just throw out all the christian terminology here because i can’t make those comparisons, i will just answer the question i think you are asking:
Q 1.) what do jewish people like, do, anyways?
A 1.) we fulfill mitzvot (aka ‘commandments’). there are 613 of them. some of them depend on the existence of the temple, which doesn’t exist, so obviously we can’t do those. we also have roles which can only be fulfilled by the priests or high priest. the position of high priest does not exist currently (see: romans, temple). technically of the 12 tribes of israel, 2 still exist as distinct tribes: the kohanim, the levites, and both are the priestly tribes. everyone else is now called yisraelim (mostly from the tribe of Judah or Benjamin). those who are kohen or levite are expected to perform certain things and still technically have like, certain roles or honors but the role of priests in average jewish life is again not the same as it was when there was a temple.
Q 2.) okay who like DOES this commandment stuff? who fulfills mitzvot?
A 2.) jewish people are obligated in fulfilling mitzvot to the extent that fulfilling them is currently possible. there’s like some things that may or may not apply to specific individuals and that is complicated but generally speaking if you are jewish, you do the things.
Q 3.) so like, uh….if you want to lead a service, who does the Things?
A 3.) literally any jewish person can, in theory, Do The Things. some movements prefer that men and women are obligated to do certain specific things but in a progressive environment anyone can do the Thing. my rabbi (liberal reform movement) said he is a “professional jew” but not like…inherently better or anything, it’s just his job to be really jewish and know how to be really jewish (oversimplification, but the point is, other people can do a lot of the things he does). oftentimes during the summer, the rabbis at my synagogue are off doing things or studying or who knows what else, and sometimes the services will be run by other people. technically speaking, i could, in theory, lead a whole service. in reality i do not feel prepared enough to do so, but i am capable and should i be asked to do so, it would be my duty to the community. we even let thirteen year olds do this.
generally speaking if you have ten jews in a room you can do almost all of the Things, although some of those jews might know what they are doing better than others. if someone goes around asking “are you jewish? we need a tenth person,” and you are jewish, you have to say yes because they need a tenth jewish person to do a Thing. (some prayers are only recited in the presence of a minyan, which is ten jewish adults.)
i think technically(?) i could even be like “as a jewish person i want to officiate a jewish wedding ceremony” but my rabbi said the state really prefers that someone with the title of rabbi does that because like, it’s just easier to regulate and keep track of and less confusing/less paperwork. like religiously speaking all jews can do the Jewish Things, which are fulfilling mitzvot (commandments), inclusive of rituals/holidays/life cycle events (like marriage or circumcision). but some jews are professionals at doing these things (like rabbis or cantors or a moyel), or are from the priestly tribe and therefore obligated to do more things, or we can’t do the things because no temple.
this is a big big big simplification.
….so i think the answer is “no.”
Or is there a theology that is more collective and egalitarian
yes.
hermeneutics and understanding what is True
i dont have an answer per se but: “israel” means “wrestles with g-d” so like…fight g-d, wrestle for the truth, argue with g-d or anyone else.
the graphic novel The Rabbi’s Cat also discusses the difference between Judaism and other forms of like…western thought
“Western thought works by thesis, antithesis, synthesis, while Judaism goes thesis, antithesis, antithesis, antithesis….”
everyone is always studying, we are always reading torah, we read it in cycles every year, all the time, over and over and we argue about it.
all jewish people were given the torah, and therefore we are all equally able to have…it…? does this make sense?
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on catholic churches, and other things that don't exactly exist
I've been mulling this over for a while now, and I'm not even going to pretend that it has any claim to theological validity--it's just my own reflection on how I see things.
We affirm quite often--weekly, if not daily--a belief in one holy, catholic, apostolic church. And when I say "we," I mean pretty much anyone who consciously follows the Nicene Creed. Now, there are Protestant ways of dealing with this language, which don't really interest me right now, but as I understand it there's a reasonable consensus between Catholics and Orthodox. The simplistic version is that there is One Church, which is both an institutional and a spiritual reality, which is the thing that we think of when we say "the Catholic Church" or "the Orthodox Church"; and everything outside that Church, whatever it might call itself, is something else.
But then we get into questions like, are there real sacraments outside of this One Church, which again, we can simplistically say "no" and thus invalidate whatever those people over there are doing. Or if there are real sacraments elsewhere, they must somehow belong to the One Church and only appear to be performed by those other things, whatever they are.
Or we might ask what it means to move from one Christian tradition to another. Is it conversion, in the sense of moving from one faith or religion to another, or is it something else? And is there really a there there, which is to say, how do you even move from one thing to another if one is not real, and the other is all there is?
And all of this is further complicated by the fact that we're trying to play nice, and so we call things churches when maybe we don't really believe what we're saying, or at least we don't think they're the One Church like this other church over here. And maybe the real problem is that Church (in the theological, spiritual sense) isn't even a thing that can be thought of as plural at all.
So where I think we often end up is affirming with our words the universality of the One Church and assuming that One Church is our church, but then acting like it's really a denomination among many. We settle for the claim that this church is The True Church, and all those other things aren't. And thus we welcome converts as if they're really coming from outside the Church into it, and we say that our sacraments are valid and theirs are not, and we reduce our lofty theological claims to jurisdictional chauvinism.
Here's my point: if the Church is One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic, then we can't think of it like a one-party state where everyone votes to keep up the façade of democracy but already knows the outcome; we have to treat it as the universal, all-encompassing body that we imagine it to be. And that means that it is the One Church for those people out there as much as for those of us in here. This One Church does not exclude; on the contrary, it includes everyone, whether they want it or not. That may not sound especially appealing to those who want nothing to do with the Church, but I'm not arguing here to convince them that they belong; I'm talking to those of us who think we already do.
Let me try a specific example. It is common practice in both the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church to receive already-baptized (typically Protestant) "converts" through the sacrament of confirmation/chrismation (two different names for essentially the same thing). Now I'm not sure how this is handled among all the various Orthodox churches; but in the Catholic understanding, Orthodox chrismation is treated as a valid sacrament, and thus an Orthodox Christian who wants to become Catholic is received through a simple profession of faith--no sacrament required. This includes a case where someone was baptized Protestant, chrismated Orthodox, and then becomes Catholic. I believe the Catholic Church would also say that their Protestant baptism was truly valid, which is not always how Orthodox interpret it, even if they don't require baptism upon "conversion."
So is this rite of chrismation or confirmation really about bringing them into the Church, in the sense that they were formerly somewhere else and now we're letting them through the door, or is it about completing what was lacking in their formation so that they can participate fully in the sacramental life of the Church? Yes, it could be both; but my point is that we probably misunderstand what's really happening if we think of it as bringing them from one spiritual territory to another. To come at the question a bit differently, a Roman Catholic child who goes through the usual progression is baptized, then receives first communion, then goes through confirmation some years later. (Eastern practice usually combines all three, so for this example the Latin way is more useful.) Prior to confirmation, are they really thought of as outside the Church, such that they have to be brought in through a special sacrament? What if their family drifts away and stops attending before they reach confirmation? If they complete the process much later as an adult, are they considered a "convert"? There's probably a canonical answer here, but I wouldn't think that's the right understanding. It's just a matter of completing the process that was begun.
So if we think of a Protestant the same way--they were baptized in accordance with their Trinitarian faith, and no one ever bothered to take it further. But whether they knew it or not, the grace given through the Church was at work. If someday they receive chrismation in the Orthodox or Catholic Church, they will do so not as a stamp of approval that they are now part of the True Church (whichever one that is), but because the Church offers her children the sacraments for their spiritual life, and this is the next step along the path to full communion. Yes, it can function practically as a formal step of transition, but it does not bring them inside the Church, because they were never outside in the first place. They were children lacking in certain stages of development that are now being filled up.
Now the paradox is that this works both ways. A baptized Protestant can be chrismated Orthodox and later welcomed into the Catholic Church without any sacrament of entrance, or they can be confirmed Catholic and later welcomed into the Orthodox Church (presumably, at least in certain cases) without a further sacrament. So in a sense, Catholic confirmation can bring someone into the Orthodox Church, or Orthodox chrismation can bring someone into the Catholic Church. Of course, we can't erase the distinctions between the two, but somehow the sacraments are permitted to operate the same regardless.
What, then, does it really mean--in a spiritual or theological sense--for there to be these two things that call themselves (One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic) Church? They can't be two Churches (not really), but neither are they branches of the One Church. It seems to me too simplistic and crude to just claim that one is real and the other is not. And what does it mean that the sacraments can be of the One Church but not limited to what happens within one organization? I think the answer is probably somewhere in this idea of catholicity--of universality--where whatever the Church is, it is that without limit or boundary. This doesn't mean that all things called churches are one or the same or parts of a whole. I think it's probably closer to the idea that the Church exists and operates everywhere, with regard to everyone, whether they know it or not. But that still leaves unanswered questions: How do you have separate communions (I've been talking here about two, but there are others that could be considered in the mix) but only One Church? And how exactly does the institutional Church correspond with the spiritual? I don't have any clear answers, and this post is already long enough. But I do have a few more thoughts for another day.
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Zagreb is the capital and largest city of Croatia.
It is a city not be missed on your way to or from the Dalmatian coast.
It so happened to be the starting point of my Croatia trip and a connection to all other cities I visited in Croatia.
ARRIVAL
I arrived at Zagreb by bus from Budapest using the bus company Flixbus.com (link here)
The bus ticket cost 9300 Hungarian Forints which was approximately 30 euros
It was a 4 hours 55 minutes journey
I arrived just in time to visit the major tourist attraction in Zagreb as they were all around the main square.
MOVING AROUND ZAGREB
It was easy to move around Zagreb with the use of their trams. The tram tickets cost 4 Croatian Kuna which was approximately 55 cents(Euros) and can be used for 30 minutes.
Tickets can be gotten from mini shops(TISAK) located all around the city.
Don’t shy away from asking questions as a majority of the locals speak English and they are always willing to assist.
PLACES TO VISIT IN ZAGREB
St Mark’s Church:
The medieval-style orthodox church with its Gothic and Romanesque architecture is an iconic spot in Zagreb. Its colorful tiled roof has the Croatian coat of arms, Dalmatian and Slavonia on the left side as well as the emblem of Zagreb on the right.
It is beautiful both on the inside and the outside.
Entrance Fee: Free
Museum of Broken Relationships:
This museum is a place with its main purpose of exhibiting personal objects of individuals from failed relationships. The museum explores mementos leftovers of after a relationship ends.
It had a good balance of humor and emotion making it be worth checking out if you’re into something a bit different. I personally enjoyed seeing the mix of cultures on display.
It is located a few steps from St Mark’s church so it’s possible to see them both without having to move long distance.
Entrance Fee:
40 Croatian kunas approximately 6 euros (Adult)
30 Croatian kunas approximately 5 euros (With a Valid Student Card)
Museum of Illusions:
This is an interesting and interactive museum experience that leaves you fascinated. Here you can observe optical illusions and other images that your brain has a hard time processing but would probably eventually will. There are also some puzzles which are really tough to complete.
All in all, it was a fun experience.
Entrance Fee:
40 Croatian kunas approximately 6 euros (Adult)
30 Croatian kunas approximately 5 euros (With a Valid Student Card)
Stone Gate(Kamenita Vrata):
The medieval stone gate that leads to Gradec town is a significant landmark and oath site in Zagreb. The silent but beautiful passage is where some of the locals come to light candles and pray.
It also houses the famous painting showing Virgin Mary and baby Jesus that remained intact during a fire in 1731.
Entrance: Free
Tunnel Gric:
The notable and historic pedestrian tunnel which was once used as a bomb shelter and promenade in 1943 during the world war II. It offers a central hall and 6 exits
It is also a great and cool shortcut if you are on the other side of the hill and you are trying to get to the other side of the city.
Entrance: Free
Zagreb Cathedral:
The Roman Catholic Institution is the tallest building in Croatia and also amongst the top ten finest organs in the world. It is the most monumental sacral building great architectural value in its Neo-natal Gothic style southeast of the Alps.
It was formerly known as the St Stephens Cathedral. It was damaged during the tartar attack and great fire in the 13th century and was then severely damaged during the earthquake in 1880.
It was then restored by Herman Bolle in the Neo-Gothic style.
It is extremely beautiful both on the inside and the outside.
Entrance: Free (be sure to turn off your mobile phones)
Dolac Market:
The market consists of vast varieties of traditional-style vendors selling in an outdoor area. Here you can buy from fruits and vegetables to legumes, bread, cheese, different types of meats and so much more.
Unfortunately, I did not get to experience it properly as they were all packed up when I got there.
WHERE/WHAT TO EAT
Click on the names below to find the links to my two favorite place to eat at. The meals were relatively cheap, delicious and very filling.
Curry Bowl
Wok and Walk
Freshly baked bread, sausage rolls, croissants and so much from bakeries located around. They are all so heavenly.
WHERE TO STAY
It all depends on your preference if you want to be in the city center or inside the town
As usual, Airbnb.com(link to where I stayed) is my holy grail for finding nice, homey and reasonably priced apartments.
Booking.com also has really nice apartments, hostels, and hotels for you to choose from.
I hope I’ve been able to give you a little feel about Zagreb.
Croatia is pleasantly affordable. It is especially compared to most popular tourist destinations in Europe but prices are lower all around from hotels, restaurants, activities, and ticket prices.
You can do more and see more in Croatia for the same price or less than in other more well-known countries.
For more on my trip to Croatia stay tuned for further posts.
Thank you for reading.
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Marian Doctrines and Romans 3:23
Both Roman Catholics and Orthodox believe that the Blessed Virgin Mary was without sin; however, Protestants often point to Romans 3:23 - "for all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God." This troubled me for a long time; however, it "clicked" today.
The verse isn't directed at individuals - it's directed at Jews and Gentiles as groups (and I think this is true of Romans as a whole). It's saying that Jews are no better at Torah-keeping than Gentiles (the OT makes this pretty clear). This is the topic that the passage starts on:
Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God. What if some were unfaithful? Does their faithlessness nullify the faithfulness of God? (v.1-3)
And ends on:
Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since God is one—who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith. Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law. (v.29-31)
Indeed, the passage uses the "all have sinned" formulation in an explicitly Jew-Gentile context earlier, with verse 9: "What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin..."
So, getting back to the original topic - the verse is not talking about individuals and, hence, isn't a challenge to Marian doctrine
#this kind of reading of romans-galatians is called “the new perspective on paul”#another “nice post for roman catholics and orthodox”#and “food for thought for followers who aren't”#virgin mary#orthodox#dm or put in an ask if you want more information on the new perspective
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Catholic Physics - Reflections of a Catholic Scientist - Part 85
The Right to Life: Fuel for My March to Catholic Faith
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The 2009 Right-to-Life March, Washington, D.C. - From Wikimedia Commons (Caption for linked image)
INTRODUCTION
The photo above, taken at the head of the 2009 Right-to-Life March, is that of the last March in which I participated. At the age of 79, it was pretty much all I could do to keep up, even at the sauntering pace of our group, and so I've decided since then to march in spirit and to pray through the day for this nation to come to its senses. I thought it appropriate to go back in time, to recollect how my pro-life sensibilities led me (and others) to the Church, and to recall some snapshots in my memory from the Marches in which I participated. This journey into the past will be essentially a stream of consciousness (I've been reading Finnegan's Wake lately).
PRO-LIFE TO CATHOLIC FAITH
A brief account of my journey to faith is given in another post, "Top Down to Jesus." Although it wasn't mentioned in that article, some fuel for that trip was my belief that all human life is sacred. Now in the early part of the trip my belief in God was vague and uncertain, so "sacred" meant something different than it does now. Perhaps the closest equivalence is "inviolable." As a physicist who knew something of biology (many of my nmr research projects involved collaboration with biologists), it made no sense to me to draw a timeline separating the living from the non-living embryo, or to neglect the potentiality of the full human in the zygote.
My wife is Catholic and strongly pro-life. Indirectly from her (she wasn't proselytizing), when she answered questions about Church doctrine, I learned that the Church held life to be sacred from the moment of conception to that of natural death. This made sense to me, in terms of the continuity of biological development. It also made sense that the Church approved only of natural death, not euthanasia or enforced journey into that "good night". I had seen the movie "Logan's Run" and read the book, and being older than 30, the year in which life was snuffed out in this dystopia to make room for younger folk, I was not willing to go gently and unselfishly.
Let's skip some 15 years and see how a little learning (not a dangerous thing!) has informed my pro-life stance. In the adult catechesis classes in which I have participated as a student and as a teacher, a most important teaching was that the soul is conveyed to the human embryo at the moment of conception, even if it be only a blob of tissue, as pro-abortionists might argue.
Pro-abortion fans argue that since the embryo or the foetus is not conscious, self-aware, it is not a human being. This argument is, I contend, unsound. If it is required that self-awareness be required for human status, then we could revert to the practices of the early Greeks and Romans and "expose" (a nice euphemism for "kill") unwanted babies. Studies have shown that self-awareness in the infant develops in five stages, and is not fully present at birth. So the pro-abortion fans should be logically consistent, and advocate the right to kill infants up to the age of five, and they might along the way include those they classify as mentally unsound or unfit. Now where have I seen that argument before?
Let's turn to the end of life issues, to euthanasia. In a post "The Fifth Commandment -- The Slippery Slope of Euthanasia", I've discussed how "mercy killing" has transmogrified to killing the old for convenience in the Netherlands and Belgium, so I'll not repeat these arguments here However, with the passage of laws allowing euthanasia in several states in the U.S., I begin to feel the chill of the ice-man's axe (or is it needle?) approaching this old guy, and, accordingly, I am ever so grateful for the Church's firm stance for natural death and against euthanasia.
RECOLLECTIONS FROM MARCHES PAST.
This will be a change of pace, a recollection of events from Marches in the past.
We live in north-central Pennsylvania, about a six hour drive to Washington. The practice has been for the parish (or several parishes) to hire a bus for the trip down, beginning at about 5:30 am (for the early morning Mass) and returning about 10 pm. In Washington the buses would park at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, and we would take the subway down to to a point close to the Mall, where the March was to begin. We would meet at Union Station after proceeding to the Capitol, go back to the Shrine and thence home, stopping for a gourmand's buffet dinner -- the preference of our parish priest -- at a tourist stop near Thurmond, Md. There were young people, old people and those in between. Some of the older people would stay at the Shrine and pray instead of marching (as I did in my last March, several years ago).
In the 80's (before my conversion) my wife and youngest son went down and encountered one of the rare, but disabling snowstorms that occur in D.C. They got there too late to march, and returned home around midnight, tired but still invigorated by having made the journey. I had thought to myself waiting for their return, what the H --are they doing this for. I found out later.
Here are some memories that stand out. On my first trip, walking from the subway to the Mall where the March was to begin, I saw walking about 50 feet in front of me a middle-aged man with sidelocks, a kippah (the skull-cap worn by Orthodox Jews), with two young boys. They were dressed formally, and I thought to myself -- isn't that great; you don't have to be Catholic to be pro-life. And this was reinforced later, seeing people from other denominations in the March.
In 2005, the first year of George W. Bush's second term, there was a congratulatory message delivered from the White House to those assembled on the Mall. How different from 2009, the first year of Obama's term -- no message -- although the lack of message did itself show how Obama regarded those of us demonstrating for life . I recall the old people, older than I, the young people waving banners from all over the country, the priests in clerical garb, the monks and nuns in habits and more modern dress, the one very old monk in a wheel-chair being pushed by a younger. I recall the songs, the hymns. I recall the people standing at the side, cheering us on (with some exceptions). I recall looking back at the huge mass of people and thinking if so many people are marching for what is right, we must prevail. And so we shall.
From a series of articles written by: Bob Kurland - a Catholic Scientist
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“The Power, not the Symbol, of the Cross”: Megan Montgomery
Megan was born and raised in Canton, OH into a Christian family. She is currently a junior majoring in Linguistics and Middle Eastern & Islamic Studies. She studies Arabic and is particularly interested in studying the similarities between the Abrahamic faiths and their histories.
Let’s hear what Megan has to say
Holy Week is the most important week in Christianity. It is not only the death of Jesus of Nazareth but the events leading to His resurrection. The week includes
Palm Sunday – The day of Jesus Christ’s triumphant entry into Jerusalem.
Holy Monday & Holy Tuesday – nothing is really recognized on these days of which I know.
Holy Wednesday – often recognized as the day that Judas Iscariot, one of the Twelve Disciples of Jesus Christ, was prompted by Satan to betray Jesus.
Maundy Thursday – The day of Christ’s Last Supper. This is the day Christ gave His last teachings to His disciples and made prophecies of what was to come. Later this night, Judas betrays Jesus, Jesus is arrested and tried as a blasphemer, and Peter denies Jesus.
Good Friday – The day of Christ’s appearance before Pontius Pilate, His flagellation, and crucifixion.
Holy Saturday – The day Christ’s body laid in the tomb.
Easter Sunday then follows Holy Week and is the day Christians celebrate Christ’s resurrection. The actual week we remember would have taken place during the Jewish Passover, but due to different calendars in modern times, the Roman Catholic (and thus Protestant) Easter is hardly ever at the proper time in the Jewish calendar (the Orthodox Easter, though, is). However, this year Orthodox Easter and Roman Catholic/Protestant Easter were on the same day.
The Christian faith would be nothing without Easter and is, therefore, our most important celebration. Without Christ’s death on the cross, Christianity means nothing: Holy Week and Easter are celebrations of the true power of God. Humans all think of power in different ways – it can be a good thing, a bad thing, corrupted, pure, etc. However, God tells us in this week what power should be.
Upon entering Jerusalem (Palm Sunday), Jesus was welcomed as a King because people thought that He would meet their expectation of a King, of a Savior – they thought He would establish His kingdom on earth in earthly ways, like David. By Friday, the crowd is demanding that He be crucified. His power, Christians believe, was exercised in becoming human, in humbling Himself to a human state and dying upon a cross as the ultimate sacrifice to cleanse humanity of their sin, the “sacrificial lamb.”
On Easter, I saw an article from the Washington Post titled “Five Myths about Easter,” a nice, provocative title by Fr. James Martin – who has been a favorite on social media lately for his condemnation of government policies. Initially, the title frustrated me, then I read the article and was happy with the fact that on Easter I didn’t have to defend my faith, that this could wait until Easter Monday. However, soon I was angry because on Easter, the holiest day of the year, that was what Fr. James decided to write about.
I was angry because the same man who realized a video condemning the Muslim ban was writing an article for Easter not on the importance of Easter, but how symbolism isn’t always accurate.
I was angry because on Palm Sunday 17 Copts were killed in Egypt.
I was angry because Evangelical news sources were questioning whether or not Copts are actually Christian in response to the massacre.
I was angry because on Holy Monday my friend’s brother was shot and killed in my hometown in Ohio for no apparent reason.
I was angry because on Easter Sunday a man in Cleveland decided to kill Robert Godwin and live stream it on Facebook because he was mad at his girlfriend.
I was angry because on Easter Sunday, instead of addressing what true power is, this priest used his platform in the Washington Post to talk about the fact that the cross Christ was crucified on probably looked more like a capital “T” than the traditionally used ✝.
Easter is the most important story in all of Christianity: Easter is the redemption story. I was taught that when God cursed man and the serpent after the original sin when He said to the serpent in Genesis 3:15 (NKJV)
And I will put enmity
Between you and the woman,
And between your seed and her Seed;
He shall bruise your head,
And you shall bruise His heel
That this is telling the story of Jesus, of what was to come – that Jesus, the offspring of Eve, will bruise (some translations use crush or strike for this “bruise”) the head of the serpent, seen as the devil, and that the worst the devil will be able to do Him bruise His heel. Jesus, in dying on the cross, took on all the sins that humans committed and will commit, was punished for them, and was raised from the dead. In doing so, if we confess our sins, we can never be tried for them – think double jeopardy, the legal term, not from Jeopardy – because Christ was already punished for them. This is man’s ultimate redemption as we are no longer separated from God as we were after the fall of man, but can now be in full communion with Him.
If we are truly in communion with Him, Christians believe that one of the things that happens is that we will start to live our life in a way which resembles Christ’s life on earth. We will not use power to elevate ourselves, but to humble ourselves. We will not work towards selfish goals, but for others. We will become each other’s, servants. Just as Christ, fully God, humbled himself to the human state and served us, loves us, died for us.
Where, then, is this teaching in the world? There is a time and a place for apologetics. There is also a time and place for the teachings of Jesus to be explained and to tell the Christian community to remember them. It is not the symbol of the cross that is important to Christians, but what that cross represents to Christians: the death, the resurrection, the redemption, and the love.
May the Peace of the Lord be with you and may the joy of Easter be yours.
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