#neck whump

[linecrosser]

Whumpril 2025 - Day 4 - Threat

Both think the other is a potential threat. Mobei Jun is just the one that threatens back.

[vfib785]

DjÄ - visible neck pulse during surgery

[gashofleastresistance]

*!feral!

THE LITTLE MERMAID (2023) dir. Rob Marshall

[max-nicoxfandom]

One thing that I'm sad that a lot of fics get wrong about touch aversion/touch starvation (as someone who is both) is the fact that every single touch hurts. Maybe not hurts, but feels bad. Like having characters figure out that they like something, needs to jump through like 20 hoops of "this feels terrible. Please leave me alone but don't stop touching me ever, but also I think I'm gonna throw up, this is the worst. I love you. I'm dying."

Plus the only way to cure it is to feel like shit while doing it until you don't feel like shit anymore. Whether that means light pressure for long periods of time (I hate that but not everyone is me), heavy pressure for short periods of time (my beloved), or any other combination, you just have to suck it up and it's TERRIBLE !! TERRIBLE !!!

[justkidneying]

When to Punch Someone in the Throat (probably never)

I see throat punches in media sometimes, and I wanted to explain why this is such a devastating (and illegal) move. Throat punches are no joke. I've always been taught that in the same way you would never point a gun at something you don't want to kill, you would never punch someone in the throat that you didn't want to kill.

Structure of the throat: the anterior part of the throat is very tender and unprotected. Out front you have the trachea, and behind that you have the esophagus. The thyroid cartilage (this is your Adam's apple) sits at the level of your voice box (larynx). About an inch above that, usually hiding up in your jawline, is the hyoid bone.

The Hyoid Bone: this is a horseshoe-shaped bone that freely sits in the anterior part of the neck (it's not connected to any other bone). It protects the airway, helps maintain neck posture, and assists with chewing, tongue movement, swallowing, and speaking. It's really bad to fracture this bone.

Throat Trauma: with any anterior neck trauma, there is going to be a lot of bruising (ecchymosis) and swelling (edema) in the laryngeal tissue. This swelling can compromise the airway, and the person can literally just die from that. If the force is in the right place and great enough, the hyoid bone will fracture. The bone will usually be fractured in several places. This is likely to also cause asphyxiation. You may also see hemoptysis (coughing up blood).

*I want to note that in strangulation injuries, the hyoid bone is commonly fractured. However, it's only found in 1/3 of homicides from strangulation. *

Timeline: okay, so obviously, the person may just grab their throat, choke, and die. But do you wanna know the part that freaks me out? The fact that patients can be asymptomatic for up to 72 hours (THREE FUCKING DAYS!!!). That's scary because the patient can be fine, they think they just have some bruising and a little swelling, then their throat starts spasming and they die of asphyxiation (crazy, right??).

Fighting: okay, back to fighting. Throat punches are not allowed in any combat sport, not even in no-holds barred (unless it's some weird kumite where you can kill your opponent). But, in normal combat sport this doesn't usually even happen on accident, because most people 1) tuck their chin and 2) know not to EVER punch someone in the neck. If it does happen, people will probably talk about it (like when a rabbit punch is thrown).

The only time I have seen a throat punch is with a kids' class (like 4-8 year olds) and that habit was quickly corrected. I think the only time it is ever appropriate would be in a life-or-death situation, but depending on the laws in your area I have no idea if it would be legal then (because you're probably going to kill that person).

Anyways, main point: don't punch people in the throat, like, ever. They may die, even if it is three days later.

[uuuhshiny]

Vladimir Verevochkin in The Golden Hord

HolopAU

[sirsparklepants]

Logan whump concept: someone manages to get a knife aimed right and cuts through all the connective tissue in the knee to literally cut his patella out. Not PARTICULARLY easy to walk around like that. His body will regrow it even probably in the same fight but without the adamantium obviously so now everyone is trying to literally take him out at the knees. Might be an additional insurance thing done if he's drugged and captured - if he manages to bust the restraints and shake off the drug long enough to go somewhere, he still can't literally grow adamantium, so he can be slowed down enough to be say, in a room long enough to properly get gassed with a higher drug dosage again. Or even, someone comes in every hour to carefully cut out his kneecap again. When he's rescued or breaks out, someone will have to find that bone so it can be reinserted if he wants to keep the adamantium there.

Or his other joints! They're vulnerable! Probably not in a FIGHT per se bc you would have to be pretty precise to be able to get in between the actual bone without running into the adamantium and fucking your instrument up instantly, but again, in the capture scenario, if you can sever all the joints especially if they're dislocated first (probably EASIER because of the weight) you can essentially impale all of them with some sort of very strong material, and his healing factor will try to push it OUT, but if it's large and solid it's going to take some serious time, especially if it's many many joints. So again, someone coming in every hour or so to push it all back in.

Hell, the c1 to skull and atlantoaxial (first two vertebrae) joints are NOTORIOUS for being unstable for anyone with overall weakened joints. Like, sometimes fatally unstable. Dislocate THAT sucker (they're all kind of connected), you can shove something into his brain via the foramen magnum. He's MORE vulnerable to brain damage than other kinds, we've been shown. You've got easy access to the brain stem and the cerebellum right there - keep something in there his body had to constantly try and force out and it would be basically constantly killing him. Medulla oblongata is responsible for breathing and regulating heartbeat! His body would be more focused on constantly reviving, probably, to work too hard on pushing that out.

Anyway. We really should be focusing more on Logan's joints if we want to really hurt him. They're much more vulnerable than any other part of his skeletal structure.

[whumppromptoftheday]

I'm new to whump and still just a lurker so I hope it's okay to use your blog to share an idea I had maybe?

tiny whumpee pinned down with a retractable pen, at any moment whumper could click it and the tip would stab them.

oh! i like this one!

[justkidneying]

Breaking Necks

Snappin necks is a really cool thing to do in an action movie, so I'm gonna break down how strong you need to be to do it.

"Breaking a neck" aka cervical dislocation, happens when the vertebra are rotated far enough that the vertebral canal is disrupted and the spinal cord is fucked. To do this, you gotta overpower some ligaments (which keep bones together), muscles, and tendons (holds muscles to bones). To keep it simple, we're gonna say the guy is on his knees in front of you, and has brain damage or something, so he's not really fighting back. You're gonna put one hand on his chin, and the other on the back of his neck. This will allow you to create torque, which will lead to cervical torsion, which will lead to cervical dislocation, and you know where we're going with this.

Okay, so what is torque? Torque is a specific type of force in which the force is applied to the end of an object, causing that object to rotate. An example of this is when someone uses a wrench. When force is applied to the end of the wrench, it causes the end around a nut to rotate. Most people can understand the concept that as your hands move further from the end of a wrench that is around a bolt, the easier it is to turn. This is because the force applied is multiplied by the length of the lever arm. The lever arm is the distance between the point of rotation and the force being applied. In this case, the lever arm is the distance between the chin and the spine. In most people, this distance is 15 cm.

How much force can the vertebra withstand? The minimum torque the vertebra can be subject to before dislocation is 14-17 Nm (Newton meters are the units of torque, because it is a force [Newton] applied from a distance [meters]). We can plug 17 Nm into our torque equation with the lever arm length, and we get ~120 N. Your bicep needs to produce 120 N of force when you curl a 26 lb weight. That's not very much, is it?

So back to the muscles. The main muscle that will resist your motion is the sternocleidomastoid muscle. This originates from the sternum and collar bone, and inserts onto the skull below the ear. Now, this muscle is not really that strong (who does neck exercises??). Working with any other neck muscles to resist the rotation, this probably puts opposite torque in at around 1.35 Nm. Plug everything back in (with our added torques), and we still only get the force (128 N) needed to curl a 29lb dumbbell. Huh, so your neck muscles really don't help you, do they?

"What about the mandible??" you say...well it's pretty strong actually. It requires about 125 lbs of force to dislocated it when acting in the direction we are, so the neck will dislocate first.

Even if you don't totally destroy the spinal cord, there's some really important crap in the cervical region (like the vertebral arteries and spinal nerves) that will totally kill you if they get messed up. There's the vertebral arteries, for one. You can break those and die of internal bleeding even if your spinal cord is fine.

Another note about where this will happen: you have seven cervical vertebra (C1-C7). C1 and C2 are pretty weird and close nit, so they're probably not going to give first. The greatest amount of flexion is between C4,C5,&C6. Also, because C7 is pretty sturdy in its attachment to the thoracic vertebra, C6 can also dislocate off of it easier. So I bet this dislocation will happen in the lower half of the neck.

Bottom line: if you can curl a 30lb dumbbell, you can probably generate the necessary force to break a grown man's neck.

Anyways, I could go on and on about this (I have a thirty-five page literature review I wrote over this topic), but I think my point has been made. Just one final thing: you probably can't do this irl, bc you need the perfect circumstances and the right technique. Oh well, stuff like this is probably best left to Chuck Norris and Arnold.

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Kam Pood Tee Hai Pai - Ep. 1

Requested by @applesakura

[justkidneying]

Whiplash

Whiplash is a type of neck injury that is caused by an abrupt movement of the neck. Most commonly, it is the result of motor vehicle accidents, but it can also be seen from sport and fall injuries. It is usually not severe, but can take several weeks to recover from.

What is injured? The muscles of the neck are being abruptly stretched, so they're going to be sore. This includes the sternocleidomastoid muscle, the scalene muscles, and longissimus coli muscles. The internal structures can also be damaged. The pharynx and esophagus are both pretty vulnerable (soft and weak). The spinal nerves, intervertebral discs, and facet joints of the spine can be damaged (called facet joints). Also, all the ligaments (which hold the vertebra together) can be injured as well.

What are the risk factors? Whiplash is more common in younger females, and people with a prior history of neck pain. In regards to motor vehicle accidents, whiplash is more likely in those who suffered a rear collision in a stationary vehicle and were not at fault (also people who got a payout are more likely to have it - but like also a lot of people lie about symptoms for money, lol).

How is it diagnosed? You mainly have to look at the mechanism of injury, as there is not really anything to see on imaging. As long as the person doesn't appear to have a more serious injury, you can probably say it's whiplash.

How is it treated? The patient should ice their neck on and off for the first 18 hours after the injury to reduce pain and swelling. They should also rest as much as possible for the first day or so after the injury. After that, they can apply moist heat to their neck if there is further pain. Cervical collars can be used, but it's honestly a bit much, and you wouldn't want someone to wear one for more than a day if they don't need it. Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (like ibuprofen) can be used for pain management as well.

Overall, whiplash isn't that big of a deal. It happens a lot and usually doesn't have many complications. The worst thing is if symptoms don't go away after a few weeks, and it's a problem if they persist to a year. Then there might need to be some different treatments initiated.