#nebbie91

[cat-art-probably]

What colorations and patterns do you have in your phenotype generator?

Hello!! The generator is going to have as many as I can get in! Even phenotypes you wouldn't find due to outcrossing restrictions, or it simply not being bred together, such as a (cinnamon) amber rosetted tabby!!

Black-based: Black, chocolate, cinnamon, blue, lilac, fawn, blue caramel, lilac caramel, fawn caramel

Red-based: Red, cream, apricot

Extension: Carnelian carrier, amber, amber-russet, amber-carnelian, russet, russet-carnelian, carnelian

Albinism: Sepia point, mink point, bur-mocha point, color point, sia-mocha point, mocha point, albinism

Karpati: Homozygous karpati and heterozygous karpati

White spotting: Should be a scale, will include with white, bicolor, harlequin, and van

Agouti: Agouti, charcoal, non-agouti

Tabby: Mackerel, classic, broken mackerel, broken classic, spotted, ticked heterozygous and homozygous, braided, marbled, broken braided, broken marbled, rosetted, servaline heterozygous and homozygous

Inhibitor: Silver, smoke

Widebanding: Golden

Corin: Copper, sunshine

[amber-tortoiseshell]

*i can't pick out how many different cats are there, so they all go together

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Skunk bunch (@nebbie91)

No (@asocial-chinch-bug)

[catsanonymous]

Would it be possible to find Altai and Topaz cats in Warrior cats or in a "random" breeding population?

so the question here is basically this: can a dominant blue-eyed gene pop up in the randombred population of warrior cats? the answer is a resounding Yes, Sure, Why Not!

any and all naturally-occurring mutations are fair game, in my opinion. not only that, you can find ways to make them new and exciting. for example, dominant blue-eye genes tend to occur at the same time as unique conditions and colorations. this can be negative- for example, the now extinct Ojos Azules breed, which never made it out of its very early phases due to often-fatal mutations that were linked with the blue eye gene. on the other hand, the new Topaz breed tends not to have severe complications, and often occurs with unique and cute white markings.

if you want to introduce your own blue eye mutation into your warrior cats world, there are things you can keep in mind to make things more interesting. first of all, blue eyes are linked with white—this is why cats generally only have blue eyes if they are albino, colorpoint, or have extensive white spotting, and why uniquely mutated blue eyes often occur alongside strange white markings. additionally, blue eyes are linked with deafness. the topaz breed listed above tends to produce deafness in its homozygous form, making it undesirable to breed two blue-eyed cats together.

you could absolutely utilize these things as plot points in your story, making your blue-eyed characters even more unique. you could also disregard it completely! there’s no reason you couldn’t have a completely unique mutation that produces no side-effects whatsoever!

you can find more information on the dominant blue-eye mutations that have been found so far here!

have any questions about canon or oc character genetics? shoot me an ask!

[catcolors]

Is there any new information out there on the new Russian Altai and Topaz cat breeds?

Nothing really new no and I don’t really expect there to be much new information very soon. Heterozygous breeding is continuing at the moment as expected without any issues and more blue eyed cats are being introduced into other breeds/breeding programs like Munchkins, Maine Coons and I think Norwegian Forest Cats.

However on a sidenote an Australian cat breeder (maryvalleycattery.com) who imported one of these cats this year to introduce the blue eyed gene to his cattery by chance found another cat with very intense blue eyes and independant coat colour in Australia, which has produced blue eyed kittens as well. 

He is currently hoping to find out if it is the same gene as the Russian Altai or a new blue eyed gene altogether, which would be quite exciting. Especially since there is a possibility that homozygous kittens from this (potentially) new line won’t display health concerns like the Ojos Azules did before or the increased risk of deafness when 2 blue eyed high white Topaz cats are being mated.

For anyone who wants to look up some more about this new breed/gene you can have a look at this post I made a while back:

http://catcolours.com/post/165503505977/topaz

[sparrowminder]

I sent you a submission featuring a molly cat ant two tomcats. Did you look at it.

No, tumblr must have eaten it. You can resend if you’d like.

[yoshi-punch]

For Inktober Day 30, I drew @nebbie91 ‘s request of a DuckTales 2017 styled Gauchito!

So, I did! (Click it if you’d like! It’s a PNG file!)

[sindoodles]

How are you?

I’m doing well, thank you!

I should take this opportunity to say that my activity from here on out is going to be very minimal. Though it may seem far away, my final exam for vet school is looming in the distance and I absolutely have to pass it.

To anyone sending in genetics questions, you may have to wait a while for a response if it’s something overly complex, but I will do my best to keep on top of the simple ones that don’t require as much research.

[warriorsrewritten]

Thanks for the basic tutorial on a realistic black-based tabby with a forehead M.

Hi Nebbie91,

No problem!! I’m glad its (maybe) been helpful!

-- Laika

[shadowchublog-blog]

@nebbie91 

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[cat-art-probably]

I attempted a russet-carnelian cat.

Adorable! Look at that little pink nose and those ears! Approved friend. Keep up the good work!

[amber-tortoiseshell]

*i can't pick out how many different cats are there, so they all go together

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skunk bunch (@nebbie91)

[genericspecies]

What are the many factors that come into play that make an animal character based on a real world species look more or less like the species it is supposed to be? For example, Bugs Bunny has a few traits inaccurate to real world rabbits (like having footpads, not having claws show, forward eyes, and a cat nose) but we know he is a rabbit by his long ears, large feet, two buck teeth, and short, teardrop-shaped tail.

Stylization is one.  Stylization can mean that a character might be very abstract and unrecognizable.  You can also get a heavily stylized character that, within its own context looks very much like its species, though it isn’t at all realistic.  Take Elahrairah from the Watership Down opening scene:

He largely keeps the basic shapes and features of a rabbit, but they’re simplified and exaggerated.

Conversely it’s also possible to have a very naturalistic and realistic style while missing a species’ features.  You see this in furry art and to a degree in Disney art, especially in dvd cover art.

Another factor is intent- whether or not the artists were trying to make a real animal or a real-looking animal.  Were they drawing a bear, or were they drawing a teddy bear, or simply the idea of a bear?  For example Rabbit from Winnie the Pooh is a plush doll and Roger Rabbit from Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a toon creature.

They're not very species-accurate, but they’re not supposed to be.

Characters that are supposed to look like a specific animal but don’t often happen because the artist is following common design stereotypes rather than a real reference.  These characters unintentionally become based upon the ‘idea’ of the animal rather than the actual animal.

Utility is another thing that can affect how an animal is drawn.  Things like silhouette and clarity absolutely influence design, it’s why rabbits often get paw pads.  If a character’s motion is unclear, it’s not going to be very interesting.

There’s also anthropomorphism.  This can change things like eye size/alignment/position, head shape, and body shape.  This also ties into utility since often the reason for it is making characters more relatable and their features more readable, but changing facial structure and features to make them more ‘human’ can make them unrecognizable as their species when taken to the extreme.

Context helps as well.  A character that would otherwise not look like its species (like say its face is too round) can look accurate next to other characters (whose faces are even rounder).

[catcolors]

I’ve heard of some cream tabbies, red tabbies, brown tabbies, cinnamon tabbies, fawn selfs, and fawn tabbies be referred to as blonde cats or blonde tabbies. Have you noticed that at all? Is the blonde self and blonde tabby and their dilute and dilute modifier versions a legitimate thing? Can you post about it if you do find an actual blonde gene in cats?

Hmm, not to my knowledge no, sorry! It might be used colloquially, but I’ve never come across blonde as an official colour.

[characterdesigninspiration]

Can you do an analysis on the cat coloration (white, orange, grey, black, black and white, brown tabby, grey tabby, grey and white, lilac, cream), pattern (tabby, tuxedo, bicolor, Van pattern, tortie, calico, point pattern), and breed (Persian, Himalayan, Sphynx, Scottish Fold, Russian Blue, and Siamese) stereotypes? Like how in fictional works, there are orange male cat/white female cat couples, mean Siamese, evil and unlucky black cats, and snooty Persians.

Unfortunately I know basically nothing about cat stereotypes in fiction (beyond the superstition that black cats are unlucky) so I’m not sure where I’d even start with that D:

If there’s anyone out there who does know a thing or two about this topic, feel free to reply/reblog with resources to help this person out!

[sparrowminder]

Assuming that they are cats, what would the Warner Sibs, Yakko, Wakko and Dot from Animaniacs look like if they were genetically accurate? Also, what would a genetically accurate Rita the cat (also from Animaniacs) look like?

Bud, I really appreciate the questions, but what is it you’re really asking me for here? Is it art? Because we’ve just established I can’t do that. I know you know black cats with white spotting exist. I know you know gray cats with white spotting exist. I’m happy to cover more questionable patterns because it’s fun for me, but there’s no work to do here. You don’t have to defer to me for everything. Trust your own knowledge, do it yourself and show it off to me!

[learn2drawtlk]

I believe disney has the answer to your question nebbie. Zira was very expressive with human like motion during her song sequence "My Lullaby". Though they exaggerated her proportions they still retained her animal behavior. To draw these, all you have to do is apply the same body construction only vertical as opposed to horizontal. When drawing "hands" Please note that their 'fingers' are thick and short. As you can see with Scar, they exaggerated his paws to where he could pull off that particular pose. It would be difficult if they kept his digits short in accordance to his quad form.