#nbine presenting

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nonbine/enbine/nbine presenting | androgynous presenting genderless presenting | maverine/mav presenting

(nonbine/enbine/nbine is nonbinary gender quality. Can also be called nonbinarine. maverine/mav is maverique gender quality.)

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I saw these masc, fem, neu, & xen presenting flags by neopronouns, and wanted to make nbine, androgynous, genderless, and maverine versions :)

Since these are nonbinary related presentations, there's no set definition for what counts as nbine/androgynous/genderless/maverine presenting (at least not in the same was as masc and fem, though they vary a lot too). So anyone can use these terms/flags if they feel it fits them, however they define these presentations for themselves.

These flags, like the originals, can be used by people who either present this way or want to present this way, and of any gender.

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The format comes from the aforementioned flags by neopronouns, I kept the same center stripe, and changed the outer 2 stripes (as they stand for the respective presentation quality).

I chose yellow and purple for nbine presenting (like on the nonbinary flag), purples (2 different hues) for androgynous presenting, green and dark grey (from the agender flag, the dark grey is a combo of the grey and black stripes on the agender flag, to keep the same 3 stripe presentation flag format) for genderless presenting, plus orange and yellow (like on the maverique flag, though I flipped the colours because I thought it looked too similar to the maverique flag otherwise, basically just a grey version) for maverine presenting.

Also note: I don't really know / have any ideas for how to shorten these terms (like how masc, fem, and neu are short versions of masculine, feminine, and neutral), except maverine, which I think can be shortened to mav. So I just listed the long forms, unlike what neopronouns did. If anyone has any ideas / knows any short terms, feel free to use these flags for those as well. (and also any alt names for these gender qualities I didn't list, as long as they still have the same definition.)

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Alt nbine presenting flag below the cut,

I realise just using the yellow and purple colours leaves out the grey/black from the nonbinary flag (white I think is similar enough to the light grey, that I count them as a combined stripe/colour), so I also made a alt version for those who want/prefer it.

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Nonbinarine Pride Flag

Non-binarine, enbinine, enbanly, nonbinine, enbale, or nonbinarish (non-binarish): relating to qualities or attributes regarded as characteristic of nonbinariness/being non-binary; or nonbinary-presenting.

Term inspired from abinarine and midbinarine. Colors (except grey and nongreyed white) from @isobug's nonbinary flag redesign. See also: extrine.

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min- | fin- | nbin- lin- | glin- | agin- nin- | mvin- | xin-

min- / minsexual / minromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves masculine.

fin- / finsexual / finromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves feminine.

nbin- / enbin- / nonbin- / nbinsexual / enbinsexual / nonbinsexual / nbinromantic / enbinromantic / nonbinromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves nbine/enbine/nonbine/nonbinarine (nonbinary gender quality).

lin- / linsexual / linromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves androgynous.

glin- / glinsexual / glinromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves genderless.

agin- / aginsexual / aginromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves agenrine (agender gender quality).

nin- / ninsexual / ninromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves neutral. (the original definition also includes nonbinary and null, though people mainly just use nin- to mean neutral now.)

mvin- / mvinsexual / mvinromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves maverine (maverique gender quality).

xin- / xinsexual / xinromantic / etc. : attraction to people who consider themselves xenine (xenogender gender quality).

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The terms are prefixes basically, so they can be attached to any attraction ending (such as -rose/-romanticsexual, -tertiary, -platonic, -alterous, -sensual, -aesthetic, -physical, -emotional, and more). I only listed the -sexual and -romantic variations to keep it readable.

For the definition of these terms, I reworded them a bit from common wiki definitions, but it follows the general idea I've seen in other posts discussing these terms.

Basically, when it comes to gender qualities, what counts as what can vary greatly between people. What one person considers masculine, feminine, androgynous, etc. can be really different from what another person considers it to be. Especially when you factor in things like different cultures, people with complex identities, or really queer people in general (as they can challenge such definitions).

Who's to determine what counts as what? Or say one definition matters more than another? I think it should be determined by the person in question. I can imagine a few issues otherwise. Wouldn't it be weird to put other people in boxes they don't identify with?

Also, these orientations aren't just being attracted to men, women, enben, etc., they're attractions to gender qualities (in either presentation or gender identity). So, for some examples, someone could consider themselves masculine while not being a man, and so be included under min-. It's the same for the others, someone could consider themselves maverine without being maverique. Or present femininely while being nonbinary. The combinations/examples are practically endless.

So the point of these labels is to be broad, and include those who want to be included, and exclude those who wouldn't want to consider themselves under that label.

Now that that wall of text is out of the way haha,

-in orientation flags :D [part 1 of 2] second post

It started with me wanting to make a couple of flags that I felt should exist, finding the 7 stripe -in orientation flag format and really liking it, wanting colourful matching versions, and so, an entire set (along with really thinking about the definitions). (like usual hah) There's so many flags I split it into 2 posts, and the second one will have 9 flags too.

For the flags, I based them off of the 7 stripe -in orientation format, where it gradients to darker stripes on the outside, with a dark stripe in the center (minsexual, finsexual, ninsexual examples). I chose them because I thought the format looked really nice, and also because I don't know how to make symbols for these flags (if anyone wants to make symbol versions, feel free to do so). Unlike the original format though, the stripes on both sides don't mirror each other. I did this just because I wanted (more) colourful versions.

As for the colours, they're inspired (not exactly colour picked) by the corresponding gender quality flags. So masculine for min-, feminine for fin-, nonbine for nonbin-, androgynous for lin-, genderless for glin-, agenrine for agin-, neutral for nin-, maverine for mvin-, and xenine for xin-.

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For me, nonbinary presenting is different from nbine presenting. It's like maverine presenting vs maverique presenting. Or male presenting vs masculine presenting.

I get it. I really want to make flags for these (like a set), but I have no idea how to make the format (I didn't find any pre-existing gender presentation flags either).

Do you have any ideas for the flags? Or anyone else?