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Interview : Rob Heron & The Tea Pad Orchestra

The band a few minutes before going on stage, through my Olympus Trip!

As part of their European tour, Rob and his gang were passing by Zurich for a concert at the epic venue El Lokal last month. I was really looking forward to the show, especially since their new album had just come out- and the songs of Soul Of My City sounded even better live. It was really difficult not to dance!

Before the concert, I sat down with Rob at the bar and we had a little chat about the band’s life in Newcastle, being a 21st-Century musician with 20th Century influences, Soul Of My City, red wine and more.

Many thanks to El Lokal, Rob Heron and his management for their warm welcome!

Before we talk about your music, I wanted to get to know you a little bit better. What’s your life like in Newcastle?

Rob Heron: Well, I’m originally from the West Coast of North England, a place called Cumbria. I moved to Newcastle to study music, which is where I met most of the rest of the band- that was about 10 years ago, and I’ve done music ever since really! I started this band about 7 years ago.

Do you guys manage to live off your music now?

Pretty much! A couple of the boys teach music privately. Paul our drummer is a lecturer at university, and I spend my time DJing and making coffee in a café when I’m not doing this! So it’s mainly making music, but you have to make money some other ways sometimes.

I’d like to talk about your new album Soul of My City- I read in some interviews that you got inspired by the gentrification of Newcastle, is that true?

I wouldn’t say “inspired”, but it’s definitely an issue yeah! (laughs) So there’s a place where we go drinking a lot and play a lot of music and there’s a lot of buildings being pulled down- mostly old buildings, and venues closing down because of developments and expensive hotels or student housing. Which in my opinion doesn’t bring a lot of culture. It’s killing off the exciting atmosphere to an area.

It’s like in London right? London bands told me the same thing.

Yeah, everywhere. They’ve closed down music venues because of complaints from flats next door that were built after the music venue. So it’s a lyrical inspiration, but I wouldn’t say the word “inspired”! (laughs)

Shot with my good old canon.

I also wanted to know more about the first track, Let’s Go Back In Time. How did it come to life?

Hmm… I take a lot of notes on my phone when I have song ideas, and one of the notes just said “let’s go back in time, man”. I don’t know why it came into my head one day, because I can’t remember writing the note. The song originally had an extra verse that we never recorded, because the song is about how good music was in the past- for me anyway. And the last verse was summing it up for me I guess, because I don’t think politics and equality were better back then, but the music was. But I just decided not to include that verse, because it made it a little bit too complicated. I’d like to go back in time for the music, but I enjoy the 21st Century for its growing addressing of issues and equality!

That’s interesting, because a lot of reviews describe your music as if it didn’t belong in the 21st Century. I actually disagree- I think it really belongs in the present times!

This is true, people think it’s old-fashioned music. But this generation of people has the ability to listen to music from the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, 1960s… So why wouldn’t we be influenced by all of it? And lyrically…

…It’s very now.

I think it’s very now. Which is something I’m trying to do, because I’m not from 1953 Tennessee- I’m from Newcastle in the 21st Century. It’s born to keep good music from the past alive in a modern way I think.

Yeah, and I think nostalgia is more “now” than ever. For example, I see so many people coming back to vinyls, trying to live in a more authentic or sustainable way to fight climate change.

Yeah, and if ain’t broken, don’t fix it! Old clothes, old records, they’re still there so you may as well use them instead of buying loads of new plastic stuff and throwing it away next year.

Could you please tell me a bit about my favorite track, There's a Hole (Where My Pocket Used To Be)? I also really like how the music video fits with the music. How did you get the idea for the melody?

I collect a lot of records, and there’s a track by Fred Carter called What Am I Gonna Do With Anna. That is basically a minor key verse and then it goes to the major key for the chorus, which is what happens in There’s A Hole (Where My Pocket Used To Be). So I guess that was the initial inspiration. But I wanted a song like a cowboy film theme, because I love all the spaghetti western music. That’s why we use a theremin, male backing vocals… And the thing is, that’s all of the band’s favorite track on the new album! And a lot of people’s favorite track that I have spoken to. The video is of course loads of fun, and we couldn’t have made any other video apart from our own spaghetti western film! But instead of pretending to be in a desert, we thought it would be fun to do it in Newcastle.

Now I have a weird question. If you had to drink one thing for the rest of your life, what would you choose between red wine and tomato juice?

Hmm… I would choose red wine of course! I don’t drink a lot of tomato juice.

Okay! The least healthy option. (laughs)

That’s the least healthy option, but I enjoy to drink red wine! I would probably die without any water. But tomato juice gives me an awful heart burn, whereas red wine does not! (laughs)

What can we expect from Rob Heron and the Tea Pad Orchestra in the future?

It’s an interesting question. I’m hoping to record this summer. It will be along the same lines of the last album, but maybe more of the 60s rhythm and blues sound, and I might start playing electric guitar.

It’s like you’re going further and further in time! (laughs)

Yeah! We might stop at psychedelic and funk in the 70s. But yeah, I think we’ll do – maybe – an EP before the next album.

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HipHop

General:

Hip hop is a modern interpretation of poetry and displaying your emotion, experiences and energy in a form full of metaphors, analogies and various poetic devices. Through this it does not only help the artist to get his message out there and cope, but also helps others who listen and not just hear the songs.

Timeline:

Late 1970’s :

The influences of Hip Hop from the States, are reaching the bijlmer. The youth form the Bijlmer is getting inspired by rappers, b-boy and graffiti artist from the States. These three points make Hip Hop, and another subculture was born.

Hip Hop & Nederhop

Hip Hop is a movement it is the definition for a lifestyle. “you are Hip Hop”.

Rap : Is an art inside of Hip Hop.

Nederhop

But in the 1980’s the dutch made their own definition called “ nederhop”.

Nederhop was rapping like they did in the States, but in dutch.

The Bijlmer was one of the places where nederhop started. The raps that you made where mostly about sorrows. And the things that you saw in your neighborhood. Because the government didn’t care for the Bijlmer at the time. The Bijlmer became a place of crime and drug use.

Nederhop was away off telling your story and telling others about your life.

Expressing your self in the art form of spoken word this was away of letting emotions out.

The expression

A neighborhood that is left for death by his government is called a ghetto. It is a hood that has been polluted not by his people but by his government.

Hip Hop and many other subcultures raised from these so-called ghettos.

In the ghettos where a large group of the black community lived, was still suppressed by the white government. In the 90’s it was in the form of Hip Hop that Black community could speak up for them self’s. By rap and Hip Hop the black youth community could express them self’s, by letting out there sorrows about white suppression.

Expression of the Bijlmer

Not only in the states white suppression is a common thing, also in the slums of the Netherlands. A large group of Surinam and Antilean people lived in the slums and was being suppressed by a white government. So it’s not weird that the Bijlmer took Hip Hop in his arms because the youth field the same way they did in the States.

2001 : Gangster rap in the Bijlmer

Gangster rap has been on the rise in the States, rappers like : snoop dog, NWA, notorious B.I.G and Tupac had there prime time in the 90’s. They rapped about selling drugs and crime. It took some time before the Bijlmer picked this up. At this point the youth from the Bijlmer had to deal with the same issues as the rappers from the states. So they started to rap about the same stuff as gangster rappers from the states to express their struggles.

2008 : Bijlmerstyle clothing

Robert ( founder of the clothing company )

My inspiration source was Eazy-E with his Compton caps. I love the pride they had in their neighborhood. I felt that shit. Also knew that it is something from there and you can not copy it here. You should not want to. But my own neighborhood, create my own shit. It's that fraternity, that common thing you have, to promote that communal.

2009 : Dret en Krullen

In 2009 Dret en Krullen won the Groteprijs. A award they won for best Hip Hop album of the year.

the duo stands for the contrast between gangster rap en good energy rap.

They mainly focus on teaching the youth about drugs and violence of the Bijlemer.  They also rap about how the government is letting people down in the Bijlmer, en how the community should rise from this despair.

2009 : Doofpot Gikkels

In the song “Doofpot” opens Gikkels up about the suppression that he feels. He speaks up about how the government and the media ruined the Bijlmer.

He raps about how the government calls the people in the Bijlmer caveman, and that it is the fouled of the people that there is a drug problem. But it’s because the government that does not care for the Bijlmer. He points out that racism still is a big thing in the government of the Nederland’s.

Graffiti Bijlmer

because of the lack of care for the Bijlmer, lots of buildings are taking down bij the government. A empty building is the a canvas for graffiti artist that’s why a large group of talented graffiti artists comes from the Bijlmer.

definition: Hip-hop, cultural movement that attained widespread popularity in the 1980s and ’90s; also, the backing music for rap, the musical style incorporating rhythmic and/or rhyming speech that became the movement’s most lasting and influential art form.

deejaying/ turn tabling

rapping/ rhyming

graffiti

‚B-boying‘  (hip hop dance style)

   (+ only valid for ‚socially conscious hip-hop‘ -> knowledge of self/ consciousness)

Origins and the Old School:

economically depressed

The New School

gave rise to gangsta rap together with Snoop Dogg, Schoolly D …

culminated in murders

combination of street credibility, neo-islamc mysticism & kung fu lore

- hip-hop generated huge sales of products in the fashion, liquor, electronics, and automobile industries that were popularized by hip-hop artists on TV stations such as MTV or magazines

Hip-Hop in the 21st century

in the early 2000s, hip-hop’s creative centre moved to the American South

Dr.Dre remained a crucial figure but went in the producer direction whereas Eminem became the ‚biggest pop star‘ after 8 Mile (2002)

stars continued to emerge like e.g. Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, Kanye West, M.I.A. (she personifies hip-hop in the 21st century probably the best though her politically radical lyrics)

dates back to the 1920s

influenced by Jamaican dancehall

leads back to poets like Muhammed Ali and Gil Scott-Heron -> presented poems over beats

1950, the sound clash contest b/w Coxsone Dodd’s ‚Downbeat‘ and Duke Reid’s ‚Trojan‘ gives birth to the concept of DJ battling

Clive Campbell is known as the ‚father of hip hop‘ (born in Jamaica, 1956 & moved to NYC later) -> introduced the huge sound systems of Jamaica to inner-city parties

around 1970’s DJs begin to refer to the music culture ‚hip hop‘

after years of being neglected by the mainstream it gets its own show on MTV (1988) thanks to Run-D.M.C

N.W.A pioneers gangsta rap movement with their album ‚Straight outta Compton‘ (1988)

1996 Fugees’ album ‚The Score‘ introduces ‚socially aware hip hop‘ (conscious lyrics)