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terrainofheartfelt · 3 years ago
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Musicians!Humphreys my beloved!!! So you alluded to them working with some of Lincoln Hawk’s old material, but apart from that, what genre(s?) of music do you see them working in? For Jenny I definitely picture rock, but also that’s probably because of Taylor Momsen more than anything else lol. For Dan I’m actually not sure - for someone with as many opinions on art and film and literature as he had, I can’t actually remember if he ever talked about music? I mean, with his upbringing and personality you have to imagine the guy would have some strong opinions, but I’m not entirely sure what they would be!
(Also this is an incredibly minor nitpick, but unless there was fraud, deception, or coercion involved in their marriage (or physical incapacity that was unknown at the time of marriage), Dan and Serena would be getting a divorce, not an annulment. The reason Rufus and Lily got their marriage annulled was because they were technically married under false pretenses i.e. an undissolved previous marriage. The whole short marriage = easy annulment thing is a misconception and, at least in New York, the rules are quite specific and pretty strict. Anyway I love literally everything else you wrote sjskfjfjdkd that is just one of those tropes for me lol)
Yesssss my kind of question! This is multi-pronged, so come on this journey through my thought process with me.
I’ll be honest, all these hcs are based off my own personal music tastes, but hey, my fic my blorbos my rules. Which is just to say, Momsen’s work with TPR isn’t really my cup of tea, nor is Badgley’s musical moonlighting, so that’s kind of…separate from how I’ve painted this all in my brain.
Music tastes-wise (I actually wrote meta for Ivy about this but it was sooooooo long ago, but I could probs hunt it down if you’re interested) I think both Dan and Jenny are the type whose taste is shaped SO much by their parents, and then as they became their own people, those tastes diverged and converged and evolved. One thing I think about a lot is a passing comment from Jen in s2 when she’s like…sorting the record collection? and she mentions Muddy Waters and when I first heard that my heart went !!!! bc I listened to Muddy Waters growing up too bc my dad LOVES that artist (self recognition through the other, etc.) so I think, in addition to the Lincoln Hawk 90s rock of it all, Dan and Jenny were brought up on a diet of blues, classic rock, and folk—think Laurel Canyon. (Some artists: Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, Nina Simone, Mavis Staples, Jefferson Airplane, Janis Joplin, Pat Benatar, Tom Petty, Bruce Springsteen, Joni Mitchell, Tim Buckley, Jeff Buckley—Rufus and Alison actually would have been settling into the Brooklyn artist scene in the late 80s/early 90s when he was there too, right?—Simon & Garfunkel, Rolling Stones, Beatles, Crosby Stills Nash & Young, I should probs stop now…)And another pet hc of mine is that Alison was into some country music, but like, the good kind—not this bullshit stadium country, but what my friends and I call ~Lady Country~: like Brandi Carlile and The Chicks formerly known as Dixie. Dan and Jenny both know “Cowboy Take Me Away” by heart. now I’m tempted to share my lady country playlist…
So for Dan, he grows into a pretentious music lover: we see him talk about Eliot Smith & Morrissey, and I think growing up he and Vanessa get each other more entrenched in their own pretentious tastes—he’s a classics and rock and punk and indie and folk guy. He sticks to the genres he deems as “Good” and it’s not really until Serena and Nate come into his life that he takes off his blinders. In his 20s, he doesn’t really have a set framework for what constitutes as “good music” in terms of genre, if it’s well-written, it’s well-written. He becomes a lowkey swiftie, not in a like, internet girl kinda way—he just respects her game, and he LOVES the geniuses behind boygenius, and, as we’ve established in this corner of the fandom, Hozier is His. Some other artists for him: Paramore (Jimmy Stewart was his first celeb crush but Haley Williams was his second), Frank Turner, Bleachers, Andrew McMahon and Brian Fallon (and all their associated acts), Lord Huron
Jenny has always just liked everything in the way that girls are allowed to/have to like everything. Her tastes range from the artists she learned from her parents, the poppunk overlap between her & Dan & Vanessa, her riot grrl rock, plus pop music, plus the indie finds she loves to sniff out. My Jenny playlist jumps from genre to genre like nothing else—actually, my blorbo playlists, I don’t really put something on there unless I think it is something that suita the character’s taste, so Jenny’s has Range, darling, and Dan’s keeps to his hipster-light taste, and Blair’s leans towards vintage sound, and Serena’s is poppier…anyways… Some artists that I keep in mind for Jen: Kesha, Halsey, Panic! at the Disco, Patti Smith, Stevie Nicks (and Fleetwood Mac), Amy Winehouse
Which brings us back to: what kind of musicians would this make them? In the post-canon fic-let that you responded to with this ask, I have a particular album in mind: In the Game, by Mick Flannery and Susan O’Neill. It’s a collab between two very excellent artists—whose lyrics just scream dan & jenny to me. O’Neill just—she sounds like Jenny to me. She has this captivating, bluesy, raw kind of voice, she can be so tender, but wail when she has to. (and I think, if you were to strip her voice of the hard rock affectation she sings with—bc that’s her genre, no shade—Momsen would sound the same). And genre-wise, the more I think about it the more it fits. Bc this album is an interesting blend of blues & folk with a little bit of rock, and I think that suits, bc neither Dan nor Jenny would want to write music that sounds too much like Lincoln Hawk and their dad, they’d want to create their own thing, and what happens is a gelling of their tastes, starting in the overlap of their venn diagram, and stretching the other into branching out. In the way that Jenny loves listening to anything and everything, she is also down for trying any genre, but I think Dan—whose not a frontman like his sister and father are—would stick to his comfort zone, but his comfort zone is like, fantastic.
And there’s this note I made for this au—which will maybe someday become a fic?—that sort of defines how I hear them as performers. Jenny sings like she’s trying to pull the emotion out of the listener, to make them feel what she’s feeling. Dan sings like it’s the very words that are being pulled out of him. They’re both emotive, but in different ways; one is more…in your face, while the other is more turned inward. Artists that I think are like Jenny in this sense (it’s not genre-based, it’s more a vibe): tswift, Kesha, Hayley Williams, Brendan Urie, Mick Jagger, Brandi Carlile. Artists that remind me of Dan with this kind of emotive, lyrics led vibe are: Phoebe Bridgers, Hozier, Sara Bareilles, Jeff Buckley. Also important notes: Jenny can WAIL, okay? Like she has so much voice in such a little body. And Dan is really, really good at hooking into his falsetto at all the right moments that can make a person just— he’s not a belter like Jen is—her voice is undoubtedly bigger—but he has that command over his instrument. Like the way Hozier and Jeff Buckley and Brendan Urie can just — hook into their head voice and make a Moment? yeah.
I could go on about musician!Humphreys forever, so if you have more to ask, by all means 💜💜💜💜
And bestie. listen. I so appreciate everyone who has their pet centers of knowledge and information and is very into sharing them (see above) music is mine, but marriage law is not, so please, when a girl says she posted a thing after writing it in mostly one sitting and without any proofing, please give her a little bit of grace. ♥️
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somekeepsakes · 5 years ago
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Peter Doherty: On the way to peace of mind
For years, Pete Doherty appeared in the gossip columns of the tabloid media mainly due to his substance abuse and various scandals. Since his last rehab stint, the 40-year-old has been concentrating on music, tours and new friendships. With his Puta Madres he recently presented the new album in the fully sold out Wiener WUK – and told us about the changes in his life in a thoughtful and focussed manner during a pre-show interview.
He’s got his issues with age. On March 12, Peter – formerly Pete – Doherty celebrated his 40th birthday but he’s reluctant to talk about his official entry into midlife. But what does midlife mean anyway? Some years ago, one wouldn’t have thought it to be possible for the professed and long-time (ex-)junkie to even see 30. Heroin, cocaine, crack cocaine, ketamine, weed - plus tons of alcohol. Drug addiction, drug abuse, drug possession, drug trafficking. Prison sentences, rehab attempts, scandalous on-and-off relationships with Kate Moss and various other women of the artistic and cultural world. Fans worship him as the revolutionary hero of British indie music who will have his irrevocable place in all history books first with The Libertines and then with Babyshambles, while critics dislike his drug-addled fickleness, his often harsh appearances on stage and also deny him any musical talent.
Eccentric and self-destructive Like every great rock star, Doherty polarises society. He takes the liberty to cancel gigs on short notice due to excessive drug abuse, to behave like a teenager on stage and to interrupt good gigs for a seemingly infinite period of time out of pure provocation. But Doherty is a brilliant spirit with a lot of sensitivity and a pure heart, too. Like the crumbling dandy he never wanted to be, with a rustic image that stretches like a veil over his whole life. He dropped out of his English Literature degree in London in his first year because he got to know Carl Barât through his sister, with whom he not only shared the love for music, verse, and poetry but also for eccentric self-destruction. These two creative talents shone beyond all borders, and – all in the tradition of great British writers and poets – consciously fled into scandals and excesses in order to fight their inner demons.
"I've always wanted to write novels. Don't get me wrong, I draw a lot of joy from music," he explains to the "Krone" in an interview, "but in my heart of hearts I dream myself into a world of poetry and literature. Songwriting sometimes seems simply too easy to me". If the income from music is sufficient, Doherty sees himself creating fiction without much pressure in a deserted area in Spain, preferably Barcelona,. The European globetrotter has already spent weeks and months in Krefeld, Hamburg, Barcelona and London, but also many nights and days in the Viennese Flex as well as in his beloved city of Graz. As global and all-encompassing as his unsteady life goes, his new band, the Puta Madres, was recruited in the same manner a few years ago. Musicians from Spain, England, Ireland, Wales and France are part of it. A pan-European overall concept that doesn’t only stand for common creativity, but also for mutual support, love and help.
Cooperation and communication He met drummer Rafa while camping in Barcelona whereas bassist Miggles was homeless in France for a while. "We are self-imposed outcasts so to speak", he thoughtfully explains the band, "it's easy to find a place in this ordinary world, but if I stay too long in it, something inside me dies. It's always about the killer instinct or the survival of the fittest, but that's not the nature of man. What people need to survive, and have needed for hundreds of thousands of years, are cooperation and communication. All that brings us forward in society is solidarity." Doherty finds this kind of solidarity in his new, multinational conglomerate. A group of passionate artists and musicians who are not averse to exuberant excess, but far removed from Doherty's past self-destructive side. He’s been clean for almost four years, but it will never be possible to get him out of the downward spiral of various addictive substances.
Their exciting and varied debut album was wrongly treated with contempt in German-speaking countries. Even if the rock'n'roll attitude of The Libertines or Babyshambles may be missing, Doherty is at his most honest and self-reflective alongside his gang of rascals. In "Someone Else To Be" he even talks about the ever-growing desire to be someone else and consciously quotes his idols Velvet Underground and Oasis. "Things outside my bands have always been negatively connoted with me, it had hardly anything to do with the music itself. I'm particularly proud of this album because it's probably my first album ever that I can listen to without feeling confused." More than ever his love for folk, country blues, Leonard Cohen and Gram Parsons stands out in songs like "All At Sea", "Travelling Tinker" or "Shoreleave". "I used to turn off the mic when recording and played on. This time, we also recorded this fun."
Peace in life After so many turbulent years, Doherty has found peace and seclusion in the placid coastal town of Margate with its 50,000 inhabitants. There’s enough space for the dogs to run, the fresh and cool sea breeze is just as good for the salvation of the soul as the self-chosen form of loneliness, which not only inspires creativity, but also health and feeling. "I like many places, I feel very much at ease in your region or Bavaria. But I would prefer to live somewhere isolated in an ancient house on a hill with a forest and connected to the sea. But Margate is a wonderful place for me. I'm just at home watching movies with Humphrey Bogart and Edward G. Robinson. That's heaven for me." Age may cause a lack of ease for Doherty, slowly but surely, however, he also seems to find peace in his life.
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aion-rsa · 4 years ago
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Coming 2 America: How Wesley Snipes Got Into Rhythm with Eddie Murphy
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Eddie Murphy’s Prince Akeem left his prospective queen to go to America in Coming to America. And he didn’t even have the good grace to leave her at the altar either. Rather she was dismissed while still barking like a dog (under the prince’s orders). The princess and her brother, General Izzi (Wesley Snipes) never forgot. And in Coming 2 America, he’s prepared to go to war over it.
Snipes may be most beloved to certain audiences as the half-vampire martial arts master in the Blade superhero movies. But his comic chops are supernatural. From 1989’s Major League through White Men Can’t Jump, and To Wong Foo, and Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar, his choices are fearless and his timing is fierce.
This coalesced in his impatiently poignant turn as D’Urville Martin, who directed Murphy’s Rudy Ray Moore in the film within the film Dolemite is My Name. The pair are at odds again in Coming 2 America. Wesley Snipes talked with Den of Geek about revisiting an iconic classic comedy, and the art of cinematic challenges, from the superhero variety to his all-time classic work in gangster cinema like New Jack City.
Den of Geek: I have been a fan since your character Willie Mays Hayes in Major League, and you stole that movie like it was second base.
Wesley Snipes: How did it go, “Play like Mays, but run like Hayes?”
And you were definitely MVP on Dolemite. Is it easier to capture that “cinemagical” reality when you’re working back-to-back on two films with the same actor, like you’ve now done with Eddie Murphy?
Yeah. It makes it a lot easier. It makes it a lot easier. You begin to harmonize with the rhythms and the style, and you get a little more comfortable after the first one. So you get to create more and expand on that creativity, have a lot of fun with it and then also push the envelope of your skills and see where you’re at.
Does the give-and-take become like a sport?
An art is the expression of the art. I would say that the competition is with yourself, the mastery of the skills, like as a martial artist or as an archer. It transcends just the other person. It’s about your relationship with the art form itself and what you find in that mirror, right? And it just so happens, when it works well, you’re in the company of others who are also doing the same thing.
So how did you first meet Eddie and how did you get involved in Coming 2 America? Were you a fan of the original film?
Yeah, I had this girlfriend and everything was going well. And then, Eddie Murphy did a movie. I was in a restaurant one day and I went to the bathroom, came back and my girl was sitting there at Eddie Murphy’s table. Yeah, that was pretty much how we met. The whole internet was like, “Eddie Murphy stole Wesley Snipes’ girlfriend!” It’s not true. It’s a joke. It is a joke, it’s not true.
No actually, we know each other from New York. And during those days also Def Jam was big, big. A lot of musicians had restaurants and little spots and cafes, lounges. I think we met first in one of the lounges. I actually think I met Charlie first before I met Eddie. Yeah, in a club in New York.
What was the key to General Izzi? And where did you get your royal gait for that film?
I think the key to General Izzi is his rhythm, his sense of rhythm. He, like the animals, moves with rhythm and tries to blend in with the rhythms of energy, rhythms of life. And then that embodies that shapes how he talks and how he sees himself. It was grand and beautiful, like a peacock with rhythm, a dancing peacock.
Were you tempted to ask about playing any of the extreme makeup characters that Eddie and Arsenio do?
Wow. I would love to do something like this… Oh man, yeah, throw me in. I’d be another guy. Somebody else in a barber shop and [I’d] do two of them. Definitely. I’d love to do it with an accent too. Like, I do something in French, but everything I’m saying is complete gibberish. [Does a faux French run]. Stuff like that, and he was like, “He didn’t say shit!”
I also cover What We Do in the Shadows. When you appeared, you did it via video chat. Were you warning us about social distancing?
I was, I was. As frustrated as he was, yes. You caught that. Very good. It worked. I told you, I tell you there’s a virus out there. I told you!
You said in the past that you’re flattered Mahershala Ali is carrying on the role of Blade. Have you talked to him at all about taking on the role?
No, he hasn’t called me. We haven’t talked about characterizations or how he should play it or anything like that. I can’t imagine that call ever coming in. That would be really strange. But we did communicate about how much we appreciate each other’s work, and how I’m comfortable with saying, ‘Hey man, go rock it, baby. If you got it, do it.’ It ain’t gonna be easy. There’s a whole lot of it that you don’t know [with] them action movies. Everybody ain’t cut like that. They ain’t made for it. But if you got it, let’s go. I got your back 1,000 percent. Let’s go.”
You had a vision for a Black Panther movie back in the way, which at some point included Mario Van Peebles and John Singleton. 
As writers, yeah. They were considered the two of the directors that were considered. Yeah.
Did you find a similar feel in Ryan Coogler’s film to what you saw in your head?
My initial idea was closer to Ryan Coogler’s expression. Yes. That was the idea because that’s what’s closest to the comic book and the idea of using vibranium for extra non-invasive operations, surgeries. This was all written in the original comics, a society that was cloaked and was a high society, highly technical. It had a nice balance between technology and nature. Oh, man, that was the vision, but we had no Pixar. We had no Pentiums. We had none of that in those days.
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I want to ask a question for myself. New Jack City is in my top 10 movies of all time.
Straight gangster, straight gangster.
Nino Brown to me is very much like Humphrey Bogart’s Baby Face Martin in Dead End. What do you pick up from the old classic actors that you still use in your on screen performances?
Oh yeah, man. It’s the body language. It’s the relationship with the camera. Their understanding of how to turn, how to position themselves. How to stand a certain way and deliver the line in a way that wasn’t awkward because the posture is cinematic, it’s photographic, cinemalogical, as they would say.
But it was straight gangster, straight gangster, and also how they would act and do action in character. They would play the characters and play the action like the character, not as an actor doing an action scene now. Yeah.
Are there any more superhero movies or franchises in your future that you’re looking at?
We hope so. Of course we’ve developed some wonderful things internally with Mondi House. I think you recall my book Talon of God is kind of cinematic, set as a cinematic horror film, action film. And that’s something that we’re looking to put into production as well. So whether we work with Marvel or we want to work with the Marvelettes, we’ll be ready in a way.
I see you as an actor who has special relationships with directors. You’ve done multiple films with Spike Lee from the earliest films to Chi-Raq. What directors challenge you in the best ways?
The ones who have a real appreciation for the craft and a good sense of story. Appreciation for the craft [means] preparation, sensitivity around what it takes to craft a great character, and to pull off a great performance that’s like The Godfather [movies] of the world. Not all of the directors have this, not all of them even care.
And then those who have a good sense of story and narrative that can help find authenticity or keep continuity with the rules that have been set, even if it’s action. Once you set the rules and you tell the audience, “These are the rules,” then you stick to them. And the best of the ones I’ve worked with know how to do that very well.
Coming 2 America will hit Amazon Prime Video on March 5.
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terrainofheartfelt · 3 years ago
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5, 19, 21, 25? -nads 💕
5. most popular fic this year
according to the ao3 stats it is gladly beyond any experience, but somewhere you feel free is coming up on a pretty close second in terms of comments/bookmarks/etc.
19. any new fics to start next year
I've been kinda feeling burnt out this past week (but that's mostly bc work, these things do have an ebb and flow for me), but I don't know if I'll put out anything I haven't mentioned before, pre-existing story premises only for now... the p & p au will get written eventually...and the more I think about it, the more I want to try a Jenate & Dair post-series fic (with a dash of musicians!Humphreys my beloved)
21. most memorable comment/review
anytime anyone gives a comment in which they quote something I want to kiss them. I actually reread comments a LOT both before & after replying especially when I'm feeling stuck like I have this week (and shoutout to @nevertothethird for all the splendiferous essay comments on "somewhere you feel free")...that being said, I got a comment on Outtake: kill the lights and kiss my eyes (the pegging fic) in which a kind person called me "the smut queen" and I think about that two times a week
25. a fic you read this year you would recommend everyone read
okay, well, everything you write, for starters Nads 💕💕💕
and I'm going to rec Ivy's it's not the end (it's an uncomfortable pause). It's heavy, but so artfully done, and thoughtfully constructed, and I can feel the care for the characters in it. And I fancy myself a bit of an Alison apologist, so reading an Alison POV is always fascinating to me. but for real, it's so heavy and hard but there's also these moments of sparkle that just balance it out perfectly.
fanfic end of the year asks!
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terrainofheartfelt · 3 years ago
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here’s a though i’ve been pondering over - if the main characters from gg were musicians, what type of musicians do you think they would be? like in terms of what genres they would play in, artists that you think they’d be like, etc.
Wow anon this is exactly my brand i love you for asking this. Buckle up this post shalt be long >:)
(I know many of the cast have had music careers but I’m not really that up on them, this is more my impressions of their characters than them.)
I’ll start with the Humphreys bc they are the ones I’ve thought about the Most.
Like, I see Dan as the folk-punk type, a poet-with-a-guitar type. Frank Turner and Brian Fallon are two of my favorite songwriters, and their writing has a very Dan Humphrey Professional Yearner kind of vibe (And when I’m writing Dan-centric fic which is all my fic tbh I listen to them A Lot). Hozier and Phoebe Bridgers also carry a similar energy, though Hozier is more on the blues/folk side & Bridgers is more indie pop meets country. He’s mostly a guitar guy, but has the skill to branch out into other similar instruments, (he gets a banjo and mandolin just for the challenge). Ivy and I have talked a lot about the idea of pianist!Dan, which I also find v appealing, but I haven’t thought much beyond: Dan playing this Chopin...
Jenny, my best girl, I’ve thought about it and exchanged many a message with @bisexualdanhumphrey about Jen. She has this fascinating, bluesy & raw kind of voice. She’s a vocalist primarily, but can play her way through most chord progressions on a keyboard, she has a ukulele that she loves. Really, she can pick up an instrument for an afternoon and do pretty well, which annoys her brother to no end (“I’ve been playing for 12 years and she figures it out in a day?!”). As for musical acts I think are similar I always come back to Stevie Nicks and Halsey, for the vocals and the vibes. There’s actually an artist I’ve been really into lately called Susan O’Neill (she goes by SON some places) and when I listen to her I think “That’s Jenny’s voice”
Throwing Eric in bc I don’t have much to say about him, but I made him Beth in my Little Women au and I loooooooooved writing baby virtuoso Eric. Eric & Liszt. That is all.
Vanessa is a drummer in my brain. Like a pop-punk drummer. Ivy actually has this fic in which she plays piano in a band which is an idea I also love - like a Carole King/Sara Bareilles kind of vibe. Maybe she joins her sister’s band? Vanessa and Dan on tour with Ruby, picture it…
Blair as a musician I imagine a couple of ways. If we’re going the classical route, I can see her being really into something that requires a lot of technical skill, like the harp. (Slightly related: listen to this performance, the harp is so gorgeous I love it.) Ooh OOH, and from being a harpist she goes to become a conductor. I can SO see Blair Waldorf as an orchestra conductor. If we’re going a more pop route, I think Blair’d be like one of her beloved chanteuses, singing jazz standards and French classics a la Edith Piaf, or like Robyn Adele Anderson, or like Zoey Deschanel in She & Him (an au of Dair as She & Him…?)
Serena is another enigma. The easy answer would be to go with S the pop diva. I’ve said before that Kesha’s whole journey as an artist really resonates with Serena’s character, so I could see that—the character of the “party girl” that evolves into this lovely, zany blend of pop & country & rock & whatever the hell she wants. (Cowboy Blues is literally a SVDW character study. All of High Road is honestly) The other idea I had when I got this ask is Serena the Band Kid. But I see her going for the low brass section, bc the chillest, most easily charismatic people I know have been low brass players. Just, Serena playing trombone and euphonium makes me very happy.
Nate...idk, friend. He doesn’t particularly strike me as the artsy type, like he would play an instrument because his parents made him (reccing yet another Ivy fic because they Get It). I could see him doing something low key, like playing bass maybe in the band I made Dan, Vanessa, and Jenny form above. Bass is also like, the steady supportive thing in an ensemble, which I think suits our Natie. Or, if Nate were a band kid with Serena, I could see him doing something himbo-ish like drumline.
I am first and foremost an opera person, and a fun habit me and my friends have is thinking about “if this were an opera, what voice types would the characters be?” (my college roommate and I spent a whole evening brainstorming Mean Girls the opera once--before the musical was even a thing, so fight me Tina Fey), so I have thought a bit about that too…
Like Nate is def a lyric baritone, because they are the himbos of opera: comedic, handsome, drink the respect women juice-- a la Figaro in Barber or Escamillo in Carmen. Dan is a Puccini spinto tenor (more on the Rondine & Boheme side of the spectrum). Because of the Pining. Blair is a soprano, like a Musetta or Donna Anna or Marschallin or Magda in Rondine: romantic, but can cut a bitch. Serena is a Rossini mezzo, like Rosina or Cenerentola: bubbly, charismatic, kind, loves to pull one over on men. Jenny is a mezzo of the kind I’d like to call Gay, like Komponist or Octavian in Rosenkav - a bit more dramatic and nothing heterosexual about em. Vanessa is also a mezzo (I am one too, okay #lowvoicesupremacy) like, Susan Graham.
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