#mothpool is like Fine i guess
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i will be honest i dont Get mothpool i never will get mothpool and i do not understand the hype at all much less why its gained so much popularity... not an invitation to explain its just wild because EVERYWHERE i see online its all mothpool all the time and even people who dont make content for it rarely actively dislike it in my experience and im just sitting here like. what is going ON, like its Fine its not bad or âproblematicâ but i just Do Not Get what people see in it OVER the other options so much t say as it Should be canon i fail to see this imrpoves their arcs at all
#honestly i have just never seen mothewing as a romance person#like at all#its the same as shadowsight#some ships are cute and i will make content for them#like im literally IN a mothpool map.#at least its better than leafpool with crowfeathers dead girlfriend(s)#what is the logic behind that other than 'they all dated the same guy'#bc its STILL centered around Some Shitty Guy#like there are so many better wlw ships#feathertail and sasha COME ON. perfect tragedy#mothpool is like Fine i guess#same with random ass crowfeather ships#harestar??? WHY#that man does not need more romance#MAYBE leafpool in the afterlife. MAYBE if they work out the issues further#but some random cat? hello?#i still reblog cute art but i seriously dont get it above 'give crowfeather a mate'#he doesnt need one thats the POINT of his arc no hes not too awful to be loved by anyone he just doesnt need it#hes had Enough let him rest at this point LMAO
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cinderholly? >:)
LMAOOO i like cinderholly :3 i went with hollywillow in my au for the drama of it all, but there's a lot to love about cinderholly too. that little argument they have in sunrise after the gathering scene where cinderheart goes on about how hollyleaf's actions created nothing but pain... in the context of them being in a relationship...... dare i say.... very very yuri............... they had infinitely more potential than lioncinder and i'll die on that hill forever and ever.
i'm a sucker for childhood friends to lovers, especially if it's yuri, it's very very sweet to me <3
#also i had what i think now was a moral ocd moment over this ship as a teen#bc i drew fanart for it on pokemon art academy and i eagerly asked a mutual at the time what they thought about the ship#and they were like ummmmmm. they're cousins??? dont ask me that#and i didnt know that so i was like oh my god im disgusting i drew incest im a horrible person#... turns out it was connected to the dumbass ''redtail is sandstorms dad'' thing thats been debunked at this point and should never#have been entertained as canon at all and is so wrong that even the website debunked it when they wont debunk other bad retcons#so im validated now. unfortunately thats the main thing i remember the ship for im sorry jslkdjflskdjflsdf#(whats weird tho is they shipped mothpool which was under fire for the exact same bad unproved retcon.....)#(i mean like. its fine to draw the line i guess but why are we picking and choosing yknow....)#incest mention#in tags
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please give us the tea on the warrior cats ships!!!
I'll go first by saying Mothpool is overhyped and Leafpool had more chemestry with Cinderpelt. (in my opinion, ship what you like!)
:3c !!! Didn't think anybody would actually ask I am gonna gonna ramble now.. Separating this into pos and neg opinions
Positive:
I did think of leafcinder before and thought it was cute but not really something I'll get passionate about (i tend to be very picky on these kinda age gap/mentor x apprentice ships), now that I'm reminded of it I can really see it! They would have a great dynamic (taking tnp cinderpelt personality into account here. tbh her in tpb and her in tnp are almost different characters to me... where's your whimsy girl...), and honestly, there are almost endless options for Leafpool ships (she interacts with so many cats woagh that's crazy for this series she actually has friends??) that have more chemistry than crowpool. I mean it's fine I guess from a strictly plot perspective (and even that's well. bendable) but why is Leafpool, 30 cat years after their breakup, dead, in cat heaven, STILL deeply in love with cat Clay Puppington. I know they will get back together in StarClan because the authors absolutely love them and think they popped off writing their romance subplot they think they created a banger. Sorry this veered off into negative can't help being a hater.
hollyjaylion, leafsquirrel and bramblehawk are the three shipcest pairings I will never be able to be normal about. Canon to me. I say this as if I'm joking but I'm serious oughhh the goddamn dynamics. On a joking note though, graysky. there is no healthy nothing to see here just bro supporting his bro explanation for whatever the hell gray wing's problem was this entire arc
spottedtiger is cool it's interesting it's mindblowing it saves lives and it's haters are sooo silly I am sorry... "but spotted is his aunt according to the family tree!!!!" ok. and is this made relevant in the books at all? do they ever even acknowledge these two as kin. It's so pointless.. draw them making out
why's the fandom turning on darktiger suddenly now because they're still related (which is not even relevant or explicitly pointed out in the books and them being related was only decided way after both of their arcs together were done I. ughhhh.) wasn't this your favourite little henchman x fascist dictator toxic yaoi ship just a few years ago?? cowards. draw them making ou- ah wait that's just dark being obsessed with tiger, who on the other hand would RATHER NOT he wants that useless lickspittle OBLITERATED he doesn't CARE
ivyhawk good she could fix him. or he can make her worse. once again the fandom are major cowards for turning on it just like they did with darktiger, but much, much more aggresively so. like you people need to calm tf down just take deep breaths it's just a warrior cat ship...
people complaining about dovetiger's age gap (which are commonplace in the wc series tiger is not alone in dating apprentices) are so boring. they actually have the most wholesome dynamic in the current era/arcs I'd argue. they're in love and I love them. as a ship and both as characters.
fallenholly had the option to be one of THE best dubiously-canon wc pairings to come out of this series had they just went the direction of making fallen actually somewhat more messed up after being trapped as a ghost in the torment tunnels for cat centuries like. I remember someone else wording this really well earlier but I'm not really gonna search so just. Yeah. fallen leaves ships.
leopardtiger is hilarious I don't care. she thinks he's sooo correct and intelligent and truly the enlightened sigma worthy of the tigerclan podcast throne while also poisoning his food because he's fucking pissing her off in their side twitter dms and plotting his demise every night while he's snork mimimi'ing next to her in their kitty political marriage cuddle pile. ben shapiro x pragerU fucking ship I hope they kill each other
mudhawk... funny... seriously WHY is the fandom picking the most interesting goddamn ships to get pissed off at and call "problematic"??????? "age gap" THEY WERE BOTH ADULTS WHEN THEY MET WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ON LET HAWK MANSPLAIN MANIPULATE MANFUCK THAT OLD MAN
I didn't read AVoS in it's entirety (and don't want to. it's... boring for the most part. I mean I love violet but is she enough to make me keep reading all that.) and don't remember if they even had any notable interactions but violetpuddle is very cute and my favourite (and, honestly, only) option for their ships. puddle's mother suckled violet but they don't consider each other "real" siblings just like how their mother doesn't consider violet as her daughter but try telling that to the fandom who can't distinguish between wet nurse arrangement, foster siblings and adopted siblings. Proud only resident of violetpuddle nation...... literally nobody else is here...
Negative: (gonna start censoring the cat/ship names now)
so correct moth.pool overhyped and their fans annoying. and also because I headcanon moth as aroace like there is not a single romantic thought in her body I cannot ever imagine her in a relationship moth don't care.
*takes a deep breath* mouse.fur is not aroace. tall.star, raven.paw and barley aren't gay. authorial statements made 10 years ago at some con ARE NOT CANON. IF IT'S NOT IN THE TEXT IT'S NOT CONFIRMED CANON. Also the latter examples also reek of biphobia lol. you can ship any of these characters with anyone forever, what is any of you people's problem.
long.fire, shadow.root, holly.cinder, bright.cloud, jay.kestrel are boring yaaawn I am falling asleep and do not see it. same with sandfire; these two did not have the groundbreaking dynamic (nor was sand that uh, well-rounded as character) you think they did you're just nostalgic. I actually prefer spottedfire and cinderfire over sandfire. anything over sandfire.
hawk.ash pisses me off because their shippers are always "hahahaha toxic yaoi sooo fucked up they make each other worse!!" but show them an actual toxic pairing and they immediately shit themselves and call you an abuse fetishizer. COWARDS you lot are COWARDS and this is why I cannot get behind hawk.ash at all like I associate them with the most annoying people so much I cannot sorry. I'm sure it's a cool ship or whatever
I actually got tired and now am too sleepy to articulate myself properly anymore but still here are the other ships that I either dislike or just plain out hate seeing: fern.ivy, alder.needle, crow.squirrel, bristle.root, bramble.squirrel (but that's a very popular one lol), lion.cinder.
thanks for the ask! :3
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đ«Darkest Hour, đTwilight, đThe Apprentices Quest
đ«darkest hour - worst and best death
ohhh i think for best i'm gonna go with a popular opinion and choose yellowfang...it's been a while since i've read it but it always made me tear up as a kid. yellowfang is one of my all time favorite characters just in general and i think her death scene was one of the best parts of the first series. runners up for best are badgerfang, rainswept flower, and tigerstar. badgerfang and rainswept flower because those also make me cry when i read them and tigerstar because Dude That's Fucking Insane. OH hawkfrost too his (first) death is pretty gnarly
for worst...hm. i think there's several categories here. most boring for the character? thistleclaw. for such an awful gut wrenching villain he literally died offscreen fighting a riverclan patrol or whatever. Okay I Guess. i'm also not a huge fan of hawkfrost's second/ghost death because i think having brambleclaw kill him a second time instead of ivypool was ???? just a really bad choice narratively speaking??? and then there's deaths like snowkit where it's like. his death makes me violently angry because the erins were too lazy to come up with a way to have a deaf character in the clans. But Whatever I Guess!
đtwilight - favourite ship and least favourite ship
ougghhh this is hard because i think in general warrior cats ships tend to be. like. eh. just because the writing is kind of eh. i do like hollowivy even though the erins retconned hollowflight to be younger than ivy despite the fact that he was originally the same age as her ??? idk their whole situation is fucked up all because the authors forgot about him LOL but i think in theory they could've been cute...mmmm bluestar and yellowfang are good. talljake good as well. mothpool good. ONEFIRE IS A GOOD ONE.
for least favorite.... feathercrow... stormsquirrel... bramblesquirrel.... generally any ship especially canon ones with Very uncomfortable age gaps that are ignored both in canon and by fans. because there's Too Many Of Them.
đthe apprentices quest - do we need starclan?
nope! not even in the slightest! i think that starclan is like fine as an afterlife for cats to go to but beyond that they have far outworn their welcome in the series. they're corrupt, liars, manipulative, and the clans depend on them to a fault. i think this constant dependence on starclan to solve the clans' problems has led to so much repetition in the series like. every arc is just "oh no there's a problem! starclan is being unclear about how to solve it so we can't do anything ourselves!!!" and idk. i wish that the clans would turn away from starclan as their guide and focus on solving their own problems. i mean, look at all the bullshit starclan has put the living clans through! they told squilf she was infertile so she'd take leafpool's kits! even though she straight up wasn't! in oots they were fearmongering in all of the clans to not work together against the most dangerous threat any of them had faced in their lives!
i haven't engaged with the upcoming asc series whatsoever so i don't have a clue what the plots about, but i hope it involves some overthrow of starclan as their guiding force. i want a series where the clans Acknowledge the harm starclan has done to the clans as a whole and a refusal to listen to them any further. because the fact that every time a cat goes "hey, these starclan guys seem kind of scummy and also they literally have no power over you" (ie sol) they're regarded as blasphemous villains like. sucks. a lot.
#if starclan has 1000 haters i am one of them. if starclan has 1 hater i am the only one left. if starclan has 0 haters im dead#fuck starclan all my homies hate starclan#THANK YOU for sending one i love rambling about this series#asks
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donât be sorry about your Redtail not being trans!! as long as youâre not being transphobic, having different trans headcanons it totally fine! do you have any warrior cats that you headcanon as LGBT?! :)
Thank you so much!! 8âD I just wanna please everybody tbh ncoshfodbf ;; BUT OH YES!! 8D This will probably rambley sorry in advance lol.DISCLAIMER: guys im really sorry but Iâm gonna be totally honest here I donât understand labels at all so this is gonna be less âthis character is thisâ and more âthey are into this person in specificâ or âthis person might be this but who knows reallyâ because I think I must be asexual or gosh is it demisexual?? Heck if i know basically I donât understand knowing what you want in advance because I believe everyone should be whoever or with whoever is just most healthy for them regardless of sexuality/gender/race/whathaveyou!! ;u; also Im tired its late and I shouldnt be replying to asks OH WELL OKAY MOVING ON.ONE: Redtail x Whitestorm: this is gonna come up a lot I ship these boys so bad and i love them both to death. I LIVE for relationships where people can just be chill with each other and give each other crap but also will have each othersâ backs through anything. I ship them even more because VERY PAINFULLY their relationship just isnât a focus in Redtailâs Choice. There will be a lot of hints, but because I swore to myself the comic will be about Redtail and his relationship with his daughter, any and all romance is secondary and wonât be embelished. Also, I suck at writing romance, so thereâs also that. XDTWO: I do like the idea of MothPool??? But I really havenât read the second series onward and am basing this on just what Iâve seen around the web. ;u;THREE: I like the idea of Runningwind and Mousefur both not following typical gender âguidelinesâ?? I would personally like just calling them both they/them (I imagine âgenderâ as a sort of âscaleâ and people can be anywhere along that big scale?? But this likely has A LOT to do with how much I just enjoy writing genderless characters.) Maybe they both respond to any pronouns and donât bother correcting anybody but are generally like âyeah I guess I count as a tom/she-cat but who cares reallyâ. I see Mousefur as being more genderless or even physically ambigious regarding their real sex, and that could be why them and Longtail never actually had kits as well as ofc they just not wanting to potentially ruin what relationship they had by trying for them. But that Longtail knew Mousefur was more genderless and loved them a lot anyway as both bff and maybe lover. (Iâm scared they were actually related but. IDK SORRY.)FOUR: I recently heard the idea about I think Rowenclaw?? Being trans??? And I totally love it, and I for some reason imagine a lot of ShadowClan is genderfluid?? âŠ.or idk I just like genderfluid characters whoops.FIVE: i just like imagining civilizations who dont give a flying crap what you are. gay, straight, trans, genderless, WHO CARES? its whether or not you are willing to PULL YOUR WEIGHT WITHIN THE CLANS THAT MATTERS. And sure, there are gonna be the dumb bullies, but if you have earned respect, you get it. I love how the first series is about just that. The cats were racist against kittypets and this dork ginger kitter proved that he will do what he gonna do regardless. And I think thatâs what really brought me back to the series. 8âD I have a lot of other ships but theyâre pretty common, I think (Darkstripe being gay, Greystripe being pan, ect.)?? And I should probably stop rambling I am so sorry nfksbfosbg. I AM SURE I AM FORGETTING TO LIST/MENTION A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD FEELS AND LGBT GOOD SHIPS AND THINGS but i. need to stop typing before i say something wrong and make everything think im a weirdo whoops too late.
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