#moonlight chicken ep 4

[wanderlust-in-my-soul]

Look at me. I am soaking wet.

[amethyst-fiend]

Heart + Li Ming in Moonlight Chicken ep4

[wen-kexing-apologist]

So, I started writing a completely different post about the Heart confrontation scene and was gonna start it with "[Episode 5] was just so well done and they laid everything out on a platter for me to digest that I don't really feel the need to wax poetic about colors in this episode" but uhhhh, haha oops, I played myself. I was looking back through part 4/4 to talk about Heart's confrontation scene, and uh...

IT'S COLOR TIME.

Fuck you @respectthepetty! you created this monster.

So we already have Wen = Blue and Jim = Red but I've given the internet too many analyses about Wen and Jim and because once again the side couple strikes, all I care about is supporting this precious first love between Li Ming and Heart so that's what I'm gonna write.

Like father-figure uncle like nephew, Li Ming is red, and his love interest, Heart is blue. But because Wen and Jim are also red and blue I think there needs to be something else tying Li Ming and Heart together visually and that is stripes. (shhh, yes, I know Wen had a shirt with stripes on in it episode 4 but that served a very specific purpose of being red/blue color coded for the purposes of being caught between Alan and Jim) THIS however:

stripes.

stripes.

stripes.

stripes

stripes

stripes

STRIPESSSSSSS

Is exclusively a dedicated HeartLiMing motif.

And stripes makes sense as the connecting factor between the two of them. The plot line for Heart and Li Ming centers so much around how trapped they both feel in their respective lives. Li Ming trapped by poverty, Heart trapped at home. Li Ming trapped on the cusp of adulthood and independence, having a difficult time being understood by his uncle (despite Jim's best efforts), Heart trapped in his own body and mind, because his parents refuse to learn how to understand him. Their plot is about being teenagers, teenagers testing boundaries, breaking boundaries, rebelling against the authority they have known their whole lives in order to better understand who they are as people. In order to be able to make their own mistakes and start learning how to navigate the world without a "true adult" there to make decisions for them. It's about breaking free of the barriers your family has always placed around you to keep you safe.

Horizontal stripes of course, also make me think a bit about paper, and writing is a crucial, vital, and important part of how Heart and Li Ming started getting to know each other. If you want to get even more abstract about it, lines in relation to Heart and Li Ming make me think of hands, of fingers (the vertical lines especially) in reference to sign language and its importance in allowing these two to communicate and understand one another.

Okay I said it was color time, I lied again, sorry, it actually was stripe time.

NOW IT'S COLOR TIME.

We've seen a lot in this show, in my opinion, with blue lighting around the Red Rascals, both Jim and Li Ming. Especially Li Ming because all of his interactions with Heart until the middle of Episode 4 have been immersed completely in Heart's home.

and what I love about blue lighting is that it makes red pop so Li Ming is still the most central and eye catching presence on the screen, despite the fact that he is bathed in blue. Despite the fact that he is in Heart's room, in Heart's house, he is the center of attention for viewers in this moment, but also for Heart as a whole.

And even in Ep. 4 once they finally leave Heart's home, Li Ming is still constantly covered in blue because he is doing all of this for Heart.

And when they go to the church where Heart is introduced to other Deaf people for the first time, Li Ming is still immersed in blue because, once again, he is in Hearts's world. The world that Heart should have always had access to from the minute that he became deaf. The world he's been deprived of by his parents for three years.

Also notice, by nature of Li Ming wearing a red shirt in these scenes that the white and amber lights that act as the secondary wash in these scenes casts far more red tinted light on to Li Ming than it does to Heart. For the majority of episode 4, Heart's lighting pallet is blue or white, blue or amber. Li Ming's has a bit more red to his. AND AND AND AND it speaks to the talent of the lighting designers and directors and just general film crew in this show that they are able to use so much blue in this show and have it signify so many different things. Alan's blue lighting is colder than Wen's, Heart's blue lighting is colder at home than it is when he is outside. It's more of a blue green outside because they are mixing it with more reds/oranges and less white, you can even see it in these screen caps how much bluer and colder the first picture in Heart's room (and even when they are in his driveway) looks compared to the pictures outside where they are also lit with warm tones.

We know already that Heart cares about Li Ming, because he is his friend, because he finally has a life line, because he finally has someone to talk to, who treats him like a normal fucking human being, and trusts him, and and and...and we know that Heart is attracted to Li Ming because we got that scene where Heart pretty obviously checks out and is flustered by Li Ming without his shirt on. But I don't know if Heart fully has a crush on Li Ming at either of those points. And my argument for that is the lighting, because until Heart is standing in front of the speaker at the church with Li Ming, we don't see Heart in any objectively warm light.

I think this is the moment that is supposed to indicate that Heart is fully leaning in to having a crush on Li Ming, because this is finally the moment where his face is warm not blue, not bright, not cold, and not in white light. And I'm asking you to compare this image with the ones above it, at the street vendor, the secondary light wash on Heart is not amber, it's white. The back lighting on Heart's neck in the picture of him and Li Ming talking to the Father at church is definitely warmer, but it is not as warm as the light on Li Ming's face. But at the speaker scene, he is fully bathed in warm light. But the warm light isn't red light either, it's not objectively or definitively Li Ming's color, though it is his emotions.

You know what is objectively, definitively red light?

This is.

And like yeah, we can talk about the red bag on Heart's side, or the fact that in this lighting the blue square of the American flag on Li Ming's sweater matches close enough to the blue in Heart's shirt. We could talk about getting on each other's level by swapping colors through their clothes or their accessories. But I don't want to do that this time, because I am a slut for lighting and this lighting this definitively red lighting on Heart's face is what this episode is about for me. I think this is the point Heart realizes that he is in love with Li Ming, and Heart is fully ready to accept Li Ming as part of his world. Probably the most important part of his world.

Anyway, off to go take a million more screen shots of the confrontation scene so I can shout expletives about Heart and Li Ming's reactions to everything going on in that scene. Talk about a side track of epic proportions.

[soukana]

Jim is a divorced single dad of two, with a grandchild on the way, raising a queer teen in poverty. No wonder he doesn’t want anything complicated. No wonder he can’t focus on a new romance right now.

Wen, with his sky-high EQ, understands this. He is patient and respects Jim’s boundaries. He does his best to lighten the load without asking for anything in return.

And after some months, Jim’s attitude changes just slightly. It’s easy to miss. But instead of telling him no, he starts telling him to wait.

Just wait.

[littleforeignaffairs]

Gemini taking a page out of Fourth's book is actually the most precious thing.

You cannot convince me otherwise

[syrena-del-mar]

Alan honestly comes across as the textbook “nice guy.” (Which isn’t hard when you have First playing him, who is an actual nice guy). You know, the nice guy that acts nice until they don’t get their way and when they don’t, they take on a whole different persona that you wouldn’t expect because of how they presented themselves as the nice guy. Alan can be a “nice guy” and still raise red flags, especially how he postures himself when talking to Wen. 

It’s important to also consider the timeline in which they are living in. This is taking place during mid Covid-19. The show alludes to all the financial struggles due to the economy and Wen himself states that he’s living paycheck-to-paycheck. It makes sense that Wen is stuck living with his ex. It happens all the time to couples, sometimes no matter how much you may want to leave, there are extrinsic (in this case, financial) factors that impede your ability. 

And! In every interaction that Wen and Alan have together, Wen is more than crystal clear that there is nothing left in between them, even if they are still living together due to circumstances. 

First, the interaction they had when they were sharing a bed together. The moment that Wen feels Alan is snuggling up to him, Wen wakes up and tells Alan to move off of him. There’s a certain coldness in the way that Wen tells him to move, as if its been something already discussed. 

The next scene, Alan and Wen are having breakfast. Alan doesn’t even ask if Wen wants to go to the party of their mutual friend, he simply states, “You’re going.” He took away any choice from Wen and expected Wen to go along with the charade that they were still together. Wen put a stop to that and even states that pretending that they’re together makes him uncomfortable. ‘Pretending’ is the key word, signifying that they already discussed that their relationship has ended. 

Then, when Wen arrives the next morning, Alan reprimands Wen for not notifying him that he wouldn’t make it home that night and for not picking up his phone. There’s no relationship there! Wen already stated as such. Alan is crossing a line that has already been drawn, there was no reason to attempt to scold Wen, when Alan is nothing to him. He’s not his lover and not his parents, so if Wen doesn’t want to let him know that he’s not coming home, he doesn’t have to and that pisses Alan off. 

Wen also tells Alan that he’s moving out and that he found a condo to stay out. Wen is giving Alan a heads up so he can figure out his living situation, that wasn’t a comment for him throw it in his face whether he’s moving in with a boyfriend. Even if he was! It’s! Not! His! Business! 

The final straw is when Alan seeks out Gong, asking for information on Uncle Jim, just because Wen posts him on his IG story. A) Wen has made it clear that they’re not in a relationship anymore B) who Wen spends his time with is none of his business C) going to a mutual friend to find out is overstepping a huge line when it’s clear Wen doesn’t want Alan in his life. 

To top it off, whatever the final straw was for Wen, Alan plays it off as if Wen was being too much since he did it with good intentions. Gong even states that no matter if his actions were well-intentioned, he should have considered Wen’s opinion. I swear Alan’s posturing as if he knows what’s better for Wen kills me. 

Then he actually goes and tracks down where Wen is with Uncle Jim and asks if they’ve slept together! The way that he pushes Wen down, as well, he didn’t stop to think until he saw that Wen fell. Talk about overstepping, he really ran through the line that was drawn by tracking them down and then resorting to violence. 

It really doesn’t matter that they live together or that Alan has unresolved feelings. Wen has made it clear through his actions and verbally that there is nothing left for them. Wen even stated that what they were pretending for their mutual friend and even just pretending made him uncomfortable. I don’t know how much clearer Wen has to be. 

Alan isn’t in limbo with his relationship, Wen made his intentions clear in ending the relationship. Alan just can’t believe or come to terms that Wen doesn’t want him. Living together, sharing common spaces, doesn’t equal a welcome into his personal life just because they used to be together and Alan can’t seem to accept that. 

I get it, relationships make people do crazy things, jealousy can be a bitch, but that doesn’t give an excuse for literally stalking your ex and abusing the situation. 

TLDR; Alan is a walking red flag “nice guy” that can’t accept that just because he loves Wen that doesn’t mean that Wen has to love him. 

[doublel27]

Here’s the thing, Moonlight Chicken, I have forgiven all of First’s Gay Wrongs in Not Me and The Eclipse, bold of you to think I won’t do it again.

[aliceisathome]

Moonlight Chicken has the most insane cast chemistry. All the couples - the ex couples, the possible couples, the new couples just ooze chemistry. OOZE. But I worry.

The tensions are realistic and adult (romantic, work and domestic) and we all know that real life doesn't always give us happy endings. In an ideal world the diner (and surrounding buildings) would be saved and successful as per Gaipa's mum's suggestion; Jim and Wen become happy cat dads; Heart and Li Ming go to the US together; Alan and Gaipa heal each other's broken hearts and Leng would win the lottery and live happily ever after with Praew and their baby.

I need all of this to happen. I'm too fragile for sadness - Earth crying nearly broke me...

[bl-cupboard]

Not Heart using ‘I like your eyes’ to hide the fact that he was secretly staring and pretending to sleep. 

Can’t blame him tho, who could resist such an adorable face and bright beaming eyes. This entire scene with the 2 of them just spending time in bed together was perfection

[hughungrybear]

I swear, GMMTV is out to kill me with all the HeartLiming scenes 😭😭😭😭 I don't want to think about the fact that Liming is actively trying to leave Thailand while Heart's parents does not even give Heart permission to step out of their front gate. 😭😭😭😭

[shipperpersempre]

[Behind The Scenes] ซีนแรกก็ทำเอาเสียน้ำตา | Moonlight Chicken พระจันทร์...

[wanderlust-in-my-soul]

A First Date.

[watchingblsnowandforever]

anyone else got sucker punched by Moonlight Chicken ep 4 ending? No? Be honest.

I swear this is how I die.

Side note: just out of curiosity I went through a list of all the upcoming 2023 BLs and there are some pretty damn good ones in the queue. I'm looking forward to this year.

[wen-kexing-apologist]

Resolution

Ok, I've been trying to work on this the last couple days but I have been so so sleepy. SO Moonlight Chicken has ended and I am very sad about it, but all good things must come to an end, and we just have to hope that when they do the ending is satisfying. And boy oh boy, if Moonlight Chicken doesn't have itself atruly satisfying ending. I talked about intention in Moonlight Chicken and how I felt that one of, if not the main theme of this show is Community, especially queer community. But now I just want to talk about the resolutions. It is the ending after all. And Moonlight Chicken delivers on presenting us satisfying endings for all our wonderful characters, and my opinions on why they are satisfying.

This is going to be a loooonnnnng post, so be warned. (I put this kind of in the order that I thought would be least complicated relationships to most but who knows? You think I plan these things out? Nope, it's just word vomit babyyyyyyyy)

Gaipa and Jim

Gaipa and Jim's central "conflict" is one sided feelings. Gaipa keeps trying to show his interest in Jim to no avail (Side Note: Poor Gaipa is out here thirsting after Jim, when Jim has owned this chicken shop for literal years and possibly knew Gaipa when he was a child/teen. He was never gonna see you as a romantic interest baby boy.) And part of that stems from, in my opinion, Gaipa refusing to really accept Jim's subtle rejections:

And partially Mrs. Hong reaffirming that her husband was the same way Jim was with her and she was just persistent. Either way, Gaipa is brave, puts his heart on the line, and straight up asks Jim if Jim could ever see him as a possible lover. And, honestly similarly to Alan which is perhaps why they work, Gaipa has a hard time separating himself from Jim after heartbreak. Still offering him the title deed and trying to affirm that he's not just doing it because he wants Jim to like him. But...because of his crush on Jim, Jim consumes a lot of Gaipa's life. Gaipa makes sure that Jim remembers his appointments, he organizes his bills and reminds Jim when his car insurance expires, he goes to the leasing office with him, etc. And if he is ever going to have a healthy relationship to Jim again, he needs to have some distance.

And at first, he is putting a lot of distance between himself and Jim, practically ignoring him when he comes by the chicken stall. And while that can be necessary for people, maintaining that level of distance is, in my opinion, unhealthy. Jim and Gaipa are not only friends, they are community members, and Jim's chicken shop relies on Gaipa's family business.

And then Gaipa swings wildly in the other direction being physically unable to get the space he needs from Jim due to the death of his mother.

He has no family left to cling to, so he clings to Jim. Jim holds him through the initial emotional reaction, Jim helps him with the funeral, Jim sits next to him during the service/ceremony and...

If Gaipa wants to have a healthy relationship to Jim after everything, then he not only needs to accept that Jim cares about him as family and will never love him romantically, but he also needs to accept Wen as Jim's love interest and he needs have firmer boundaries in his connection to Jim moving forward.

Resolution: Gaipa sees Jim refuse to exploit his feelings by taking the deed title from him, Gaipa sees Jim taking care of him in his worst moments, repaying the care that Gaipa has shown him throughout the show. Gaipa sees Wen, who is an acquaintance to him at best show up to his mother's funeral day after day, and not only show up but HELP out showing Gaipa that Wen is a good person who cares for the people around him regardless of how close they are. And then he sees the way Jim looks at Wen and Wen looks at Jim and knows that Jim has never looked at him like that.

Wen helping out and Gaipa seeing the way Wen and Jim look at each other affirms a few things. (1) Wen has become a part of the community and cares for the whole community, Gaipa included (2) Wen will not be leaving any time soon. (3) Jim is happy, Jim is in love and Jim will still be in Gaipa's life because Jim loves him too, just platonically. And that's what finally allows him to reject the invitation to the diner closing night so that Jim can spend his last evening in the shop with his family and allows him to come back at the end of the episode to Jim's new food truck so Jim can spend the last evening of the series with his community.

And we get a secondary resolution not for Gaipa's sake but for Mrs. Hong that it looks like sparks are flying between Gaipa and Alan at the end there. Because Mrs. Hong said before she died the only regret she had was that Gaipa hadn't found love. We can discuss 'pair the spare' trops all we want but giving Alan and Gaipa that connection also allows Mrs. Hong to rest with no regrets remaining.

Jam and Li Ming

I already discussed my general thoughts of the relationship between Jam and Li Ming in episode 7. Something I didn't talk about in that post though, was where Jam and Li Ming were in their last scene together at the end of episode 7.

There are approximately a million posts about food as love so I won't go in to that so much here because we all understand the significance of Jam cooking for Li Ming. What I do what to talk about is how this moment is the turning point that allows them to have a positive resolution at the end, and how it stems from Li Ming reaching out.

There are a few things that contribute, in my mind, to Li Ming re-hashing the conversation about his Mom getting re-married (1) the death of Mrs. Hong and Li Ming seeing how devastated Gaipa was at the loss of his mother (2) Jim finally seeing Li Ming as an adult and listening to him, thus relieving a lot of the frustration Li Ming had been feeling and also allowing Li Ming to understand that Jim is in his corner and Jim will make sure that Li Ming's decisions are honored. Around this dinner table Li Ming also learns that his mother and Jim ran away from home when they were around Li Ming's age, and his reaction?

This bright, beaming smile, the realization from Li Ming that Jim and Jam understand his dream to leave home. This is the first step, and if Jim hadn't finally accepted Li Ming's autonomy, if Jam had not listened to her brother, this first step might never have happened. But one meal does not repair years of damage.

If Jam and Li Ming are ever going to get to a loving relationship, if Li Ming wants to love his mother, then Jam needs to show up for Li Ming, listen to Li Ming, and Li Ming needs to be honest and to take the time to understand his mother not as a parent who failed him, but as a imperfect, complicated adult.

Resolution: The relationship repair that begins at the end of episode 7 carries through in to episode 8 (with a little bit of tomfoolery from Jim). Jam and Li Ming go shopping, talk more, and Li Ming is invited to visit Tong and Jam with his boyfriend. And honest conversations between the two of them happen all along the way. At the end of Moonlight Chicken Jam and Li Ming understand each other much better.

But why does this work?

First, Jam tries to connect to Li Ming, suggesting shoes that she thinks he might like. But because she doesn't know her son, it's not a pair he's interested in. There is a moment where she looks upset, like maybe she's losing him again, but its gone soon after. But what does Jam do in response? She takes Jim's advice and she lets Li Ming guide her. This time, more casually where she just watches Li Ming, sees him pick up the shoes, take a picture of them, and walk away. So she buys them for him, because she doesn't often get the chance to give Li Ming what he wants. What is important and poignant about it is not the purchase itself, it's that she is showing Li Ming that she sees him.

And furthering the olive branch Li Ming gives Jam a piece of himself. A piece of the chicken shop. A piece of his home. He gives her bubble tea too because as we know...food is love.

And because food is love, and Jam and Li Ming have re-centered themselves here in the mall, Jam and Li Ming are able to become the family they were supposed to be. They are able to share a table together

Jam is allowed to know about and meet Heart, Jim feels free enough to commit to Wen as a boyfriend, Li Ming feels comfortable talking to his mother about his plans to go to America while Heart studies there. She is allowed to be involved and because she is finally stepping up to become more involved Jam finally sees Li Ming for the first time.

Sees the way he looks at Heart, sees that he is responsible and ready and willing to work towards his goals, to pay back the money it requires to send him to America. She understands her son is becoming an adult, that queer love is just as strong and just as real. Sees why Li Ming fits better in Pattaya with Jim than he would with her.

Alan, Wen, and Jim

Now, one thing about me is that I love a good confrontation, so we know Moonlight Chicken fed me well with Alan. Alan is angry, and Alan is angry because he is unable to understand how and why a relationship that he had been in for six years suddenly fizzled out and died. Alan is desperate to find something, someone to blame, because the complicated factor in his relationship with Wen is that...there wasn't a good reason. Wen just...stopped being in love with Alan. And Alan can't get distance from that, from the grief of losing that relationship because he's still living with Wen, because he's still sharing a bed with Wen, because they've slept together at least once since they broke up, because Alan hasn't changed ("I've always been like this, you just stopped liking it") and he can't understand that Wen has.

And when Alan first meets Jim and connects the dots, he has all day to let his assumptions take root. He has all day to think the worst, and to let his anger take root in the face of another man. Alan loves Wen, so Alan cannot blame Wen. Alan loves Wen, so it must be someone else's fault. It must be Jim's fault. Jim wooed Wen, if Jim hadn't been around maybe Alan and Wen could still be together.

If Alan wants to move on from Wen, Alan needs to be able to accept that their relationship is over. And if Alan wants to remain friends with Wen, then he needs to be able to accept Jim. But Alan has strong feelings, and navigating those changes takes far more than an episode. And Alan not only feels his emotions very strongly, but he is also convinced that everything is Jim's fault, so the question throughout the show with Alan is will he be able to accept these things?

So we inch the needle forward, Wen sits Alan down, tells him his feelings, that there was a part of him that originally hoped they could make it work. But eventually he realized it couldn't. Wen no longer loves Alan, the fire between them has died.

This conversation gets us to the first step towards satisfying resolution when Wen ends up at Jim's doorstep. Finally allowing Alan to have some physical distance from Wen in order to process his emotions and start getting over Wen. But we know Alan takes it hard, spending New Year's Eve drinking, and gets into the accident. Wen drops everything to take care of Alan and Alan is able to see that even though Wen no longer loves Alan, romantically. He will never not care for him. But Alan is finally realizing that they need some separation:

Though Alan has a perfect opportunity here to try to Wen's heart back, with Wen being ready to take care of him, to help him with physical therapy and everything. Alan takes as many opportunities as he possibly can to take the responsibility of physically caring for Alan away from Wen. This is good. This is healthy.

But as much as Alan is finally starting to accept Wen and him are over as a couple, he is still convinced that Jim is the reason why they broke up. But Jim is nice, Jim understands where Alan's anger is coming from, and Jim helps Alan. Alan, who is surprised when Jim rushes over to pick up the crutch he dropped and offer to call him a ride.

Alan who keeps seeing these instances where Jim tries to stop a fight, where Jim just lets himself take the hit. Where he apologizes for "taking [Alan's] pen", where he doesn't try to put blame on Alan for not being able to separate personal feelings from professional work.

"Are you two now together?" "We still aren't," "If it hadn't been for you, we would not have broken up like this," "But I wasn't there back then, I have only known Wen for less than 6 months."

And it's the last thing Alan needs to hear, right from Jim's mouth, in order for him to finally let go of the hatred he's been harboring for this man. To finally embrace the reality that Wen simply fell out of love. And could this have come faster if Jim and Wen had just told Alan earlier that the timeline didn't work? Possibly, but I don't think Alan would have believed it before this point, because he had too much anger. Now that he has started to put some distance between him and Wen, now that he's starting to accept it, he is more willing to believe the truth.

Resolution: Alan accepts. He accepts his romantic relationship with Wen is over, leading to one of my favorite lines in the show.

He accepts that Wen is still his friend, and that if he wants to keep Wen in his life then that means being around Jim. But he has been nothing but antagonistic to Jim with every interaction of theirs.

So when Alan shows up at the food truck for his date uh, I mean totally platonic business meeting, calling Wen his friend, there is still a possibility that Jim will take issue with Alan hanging around. Lucky for him, Jim understands in part the anger Alan felt, he knows Wen cares for Alan, and Jim cares for Wen (and honestly also because Alan is another member of the queer community who more than likely lost his connection to the queer community when he broke up with Wen) Jim invites Alan to join everyone for dinner.

Jim and Li Ming

We know one of the bigger conflicts in this show is between Jim and Li Ming. Between Jim's need to protect his nephew from harm while struggling to see his nephew as a young adult instead of a child. The entire show is full of in-fighting between Jim and Li Ming, and it stems from a place of insecurity and fear for Jim, and a place of frustration from Li Ming about not being trusted to make decisions for himself, to understand potential consequences, to learn from mistakes, you name it.

And we see the struggles they go through…together, learning from one another. We see it time and time again. Li Ming and Jim spend half their scenes together arguing.

The conflict between Jim and Li Ming has always been about protection, about Jim understanding power and how it can be wielded against him. About Jim's fears for Li Ming, the way the world might hurt him, the way his confidence in himself may one day be taken from him.

And we understand the importance of that not from an uncle and nephew perspective but from the perspective of a queer elder acting as a role model for a queer youth.

Jim and Li Ming's relationship is fracturing, but it's not broken yet. Because there is so much love between them. Li Ming may be becoming an adult, but he is still young, he still looks up to his seniors, he still seeks them out for advice. He may want to move to America, but he doesn't want to lose his connection to his community. He still relies on them, he is still more than willing to give his honest thoughts and feelings, when he trusts that he will be respected.

Li Ming is still young, Li Ming will forgive easily, Li Ming just needs to be shown that he is being listened to, and he will go right back to having a positive relationship. Which means it is up to Jim to battle against his own paradigms, his own fears, his own trauma in order to ensure the fracture between him and Li Ming can heal.

And the beauty of Li Ming is that he feels safe and comfortable with Jim, which means, compared to his first interaction with his mother in episode 7, he has no problem voicing his opinion, loudly, and pushing back against Jim's propensity to cower. And every time Li Ming pushes it hits Jim somewhere personal:

"Can you just tell me honestly? Are you truly happy? Is running a Chicken Rice diner really your dream?"

"There must be boundaries" "If I'd become like Heart, you would do the same as Mrs. Jintana does, right?" "It's not the same," "If you have a friend who hasn't left the house in three years, and you were the only one who would take him out, would you do the same as I do?"

"Li Ming, I'm your Uncle," "So what? Adults can do no wrong? Adults can kiss, but kids cannot? Is it the wrong thing to do? Is the world coming to an end?" "Isn't it difficult enough to be born poor? And now you're gay?""So what? What's the big deal?"

If Jim wants to ensure that he and Li Ming maintain their strong relationship as Li Ming approaches adulthood, then Jim needs to answer these questions for himself and needs to see Li Ming as an adult.

Resolution:

In terms of seeing Li Ming as an adult, we get more of that resolution in episode 7. I think the lack of shame about his sexuality is what finally makes Jim see Li Ming as an adult. That he can accept this part of himself so easily, when Jim cannot. That Li Ming is aware that adults also make mistakes and Li Ming making his own mistakes does not inherently exclude him from being an adult. And my evidence for that is how quickly Jim switches sides. Li Ming leaves the house and then Jim and Jam are having a conversation where Jim says "You should ask [Li Ming] yourself". I'm going to skip over any deeper conversation re: episode 7 here because I already wrote about Jim and Li Ming in this episode. But I will say that at the end of episode 7 we have generally resolved the biggest issue: Jim now sees Li Ming as an adult.

In Episode 8, we as an audience get a second confirmation that Jim's mindset has shifted when he once again tells Jam "Li Ming should be able to decide what to do with his life." It tells us he meant it, it tells us he wasn't just saying that because he felt guilty for outing Li Ming, etc. But, because Jim has spent so much of his time trying to prevent Li Ming from making mistakes he needs to get on board with helping Li Ming through his mistakes instead. First step is accepting his role as a Queer Elder, which he does when he talks to Jam at the beginning of Episode 8:

"Whatever mistake [Li Ming] is making, he has me to give advice."

But that isn't the end of Jim and Li Ming's resolution because Jim and Li Ming both still have some course correction to do to fully repair their relationship after so many fights. And that is achieved merely by...talking over bubble tea, getting to know each other better, getting to redo their fights in the way they originally should have been handled. Through conversation:

___

"Are you tired Uncle Jim?" "I am, but I'm used to it,"

"I'm glad that you know what you like, and please know that you do nothing wrong,"

"But if you'd chosen to stay with some other relatives, your life might have been better," "No. Staying with you is the best,"

"Thank you, Uncle Jim, for everything," "Thank you too." "For what?" "For teaching me how to be more mature, even though you're still a kid."

___

This time, instead of asking if he's happy, Li Ming asks if Jim is tired. Li Ming is finally able to see how exhausting Jim's life is, having to constantly take care of everybody and everything around him. Jim is finally able to admit that he is tired, he can confide more in his nephew.

Jim is able to ask Li Ming when he knew he was gay, Li Ming is able to affirm just like Wen did, that Jim is not the reason he is gay, and Jim is able to share his happiness for Li Ming in knowing himself but also is able to reverse the "Isn't it difficult enough to be poor? Now you're gay?" comment by affirming to Li Ming that he is doing nothing wrong.

Jim is allowed to express his concerns about Li Ming having been raised in poverty, because he was raised by Jim and how some of the pressure and stress that Li Ming is under may have been avoided if he had simply chosen to live with other family. And Li Ming is able to affirm to Jim that he is the best, that living with him has been the best. That despite all their fighting, all the strain that they've had, he has never regretted his choice. And this admission hits particularly hard when considering the queer elder/queer youth relationship they also hold. Of course Li Ming might not have lived in as much poverty as he did with Jim. But also, he almost certainly would not have known himself, or have been as comfortable or as confident in himself if he had not been raised by a queer man.

And then the thank yous. Now, children are generally expected to be grateful, and to thank adults, so while it is still nice that Li Ming thanks Jim, the important part of this conversation is the fact that Jim thanks Li Ming in return. Letting Li Ming know that he is aware that he has not always been acting the most mature, and that Li Ming has helped him grow as a person too. Li Ming does not need to feel guilty ever about fighting with Jim. He does not need to feel guilty ever about standing up for himself, speaking his mind, or calling out injustice. In fact, that has helped Jim break free of the walls he has built around himself.

Knowing that Li Ming is still planning on going to America, and could potentially be there for years without going back home, it is absolutely vital that they have this conversation. It's a Going Away conversation. And it's very on the nose that almost immediately after Jim thanks him, Li Ming goes to leave. But he comes back, and he hugs Jim, and he says "I love you, Uncle". And to be that is P'Aof's way of saying, Li Ming may leave his family for the states, but he will return to his family. Whether that is permanently or just to visit, it doesn't matter. What matters is that Jim and Li Ming have weathered the storm, and Li Ming loves him at the end of all things.

Jim and Wen

Honestly, I thought about leaving Wen and Jim's couple resolution out of this post because there was never really any tension between them. What needed to be resolved here was Jim finally allowing himself to move forward, to heal from Beam, and he has been doing that for the entire show. Wen has just been waiting patiently nearby while Jim carves a hole through his walls with a kitchen knife. But there have been so many other stressors in Jim's life that have truly prevented him from going all in. He was too concerned about Li Ming, about the diner, about securing a loan, about Jam, about what he would do after this, about the death of Mrs. Hong. But throughout it, Wen has been there. He has seen Wen be stable, always show up, be patient, be empathetic, push where needed, listen where needed. Jim has seen Li Ming take to Wen, has seen Wen fold himself in to the community here. I honestly think it is the resolution Jim has with Li Ming that finally gives Jim the final push he needs to risk a new love with Wen. Because it is not until after everything else in Jim's life has been resolved: Gaipa knows what he is doing in the future and is no longer heartbroken over him, Jam has told him that she doesn't mind that Li Ming is gay and also she back down from making Li Ming move, Jim strengthens his relationship to Li Ming, Jim sells the diner, Jim buys the food truck. Then and only then, when Jim is sitting around the dinner table with his family is he able to say what we have all been waiting for:

"This is Wen, my boyfriend,"

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