#monard/crepe tag

[oathofkaslana]

mobius's official 2024 birthday art + officially featured fan art (by 那流)

publish date: april 29, 2024

[thespianinthebackcorner]

There we go. It's been a while since you've cried in my notes, crepe. I've missed it. (For my moots who don't know, the tags belong to monard, a dear friend of mine. This is a normal interaction for us.) I won't say that I make a point of wanting you to cry, but it is funny seeing the block of tags in my notifs 😂

(also the pain in the back corner is a good idea lmao)

Okay some thoughts while seelie farming today...

Nine time outta ten, you gotta save the seelie from enemies....like either truesure hoarders who keep them looked in cages or sometimes just common enemies. Why. why are they bullying these poor things. why. leave them alone.

It's just clicked to me that the reason you need to walk a seelie back to its court is most likely because they don't remember where the courts are and walking a human reminds them of their time guiding humans ''All they will offer is small treasures'' cool. I'm crying.

How the fuck do baby Seelie work. I mean the gadgets. how. Could seelie choose to go into their true forms and the fairy form? Is it because they were children and couldn't fall in love like an adult Seelie would? did the baby seelie get to guide humans? in that regrad, the seelie you get to keep as a pet during the events, why. Why does it choose to stay with you. Why doesn't it find it's court. why does it choose to remain at our side.

Seelie can swim in Fonatine. They can also brighten themselves in the chasm. They are warm in dragonspine. Will they be cold in Natlan.

Can you guys tell I really enjoy Seelie lore. I love them. Also is it just me who thinks all Seelie are girls. I just...can't see them as anything else lmao

[oathofkaslana]

[ID: The next two photos show Klee and Mona attacking the statue. End ID.]

successors in simulanka w/ monard :3 part 4

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successors in simulanka w/ monard part 3

hexensiblings getting run over by trains.

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successors in simulanka w/ monard part 2!

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tis’ i, crepe.. with a very, very, definitely important ask.!!!!!!!!

I was thinking about your bronya & tsaritsa posts earlier today,, and I was wondering if there’s any other characters you think may end up being (or. already are) hi3 expys too? lore/arc wise, or just by design :3

ohhhhhhh you opened up a large can of worms w this one.. ii start visibly vibrating w excitement

general criteria are like. matching voice actors, very similar designs, some overlapping similarities. ie: mei and ei both having things to do with origin, time-fuckery (kinda), having similar designs, both being named raiden, being associated w lightning, sword users, etc. mostly we look at lore for talking about alts :3

lore-wise/confirmed (ordered by nation):

sustainer of heavenly principles -> kiana kaslana (herrscher of the void) of course mhy couldnt go a game without mentioning their favorite child. both share voice actors and similar designs. i also think its really interesting knowing that sirin (whos basically kiana's herrscher persona atp) was the first herrscher of the current era that actively abided by the will of the honkai (this being that exists outside of the honkai universe) and how the sustainer of heavenly principles is likely apart of the primordial one's four shades <- which again. the primordial one and the heavenly principles are pretty certainly NOT from teyvat. images below (note: the upwards pointing ahoge, the eye colors, the yellow powers, the red color schemes between kiana's herrscher of flamescion battlesuit, etc. in order: hi3 kiana HoF, genshin, hi3 kiana HoV, genshin)

venti -> wendy obvious one their names are similar (in chinese the first character of their name is the same and related to weather). they both have some control over the wind w venti being the archon of anemo and wendy being the herrscher of the wind. their designs are also similar if you look at their archon/herrscher forms. wendy's actually from ggz but i dont know enough about hr ggz counterpart to talk about her :( which sucks bc i heard shes written better and w more depth there. visual similarities below (take note: hair, wings, color scheme. in order: hi3, ggz, and genshin)

lore-wise i do think its interesting how HI3 wendy struggles with a lack of freedom while venti is the archon of freedom. (wendy: is wheel-chair bound due to a procedure/experiment gone wrong because of her being a literal child soldier. + being kidnapped by both schicksal and ae + being a narrative parallel to bronya who notoriously struggles with freedom especially in the chapter we meet wendy in)

raiden ei and raiden makoto -> raiden mei also obvious. i dont know where to even begin here. their surnames being the same; both being associated to lightning and thunder; mei and ei being sword-users; even lil things about ei like the fact that she cant cook whlie mei can because mei has a kiana to cook for and ei doesnt!; mei being the herrscher of origin and raiden shogun's auto attacks being named origin; mei having a line about reforging kiana's swords when it breaks as a symbol of strength and raiden shogun's passive being related to leveling swords and polearms. even like story-wise, while i think they did a shitty job w ei, i can see the bits of mei they were going for! the divided identities w mei (the real gentle and compassionate her being represented w makoto, a cold and cruel facade of hers being the raiden shogun, and the in-between version of her that just tries so hard to maintain eternity and change fate as a means of grief being represented with ei). and see. did not include GGZ mei heree bc i dont know enough about her. visuals below (take note the eye color, hair, the red accents in ei's clothing. in order: HI3 mei HoT, HI3 APHO mei, genshin makoto, and genshin ei.)

yae miko -> yae sakura also obvious w their names and designs asjdbjb. also both being mikos, narukami shrine being heavily associated w sakura blossoms, the fox and kitsune inspirations. and!! the medicine-food kiss in one of miko's books literally being something sakura did to kallen. they dont act similarly at all but i think thats part of what makes miko a successful expy. ei acts more like sakura than miko does! and the fact that their stories with losing their sisters and that spurring such intense grief within them is soooooo oughh.... i love eimiko from a multiverse perspective bc i think with it, it allows miko and sakura to be so so linked while also not being very similar, meaning we get more from miko's character if we know sakura but we dont need to know sakura to know about miko!!!! i also of course have to mention the grand narukami sakura tree and yae sakura's connection w sakura trees and grief.. the way the grand narukami's tree is a symbol of ei's grief for makoto AND the site where miko sends off the spirits of the youkai to rest :]. iirc, sakura's GGZ and HI3 lore are similar enough. images below (note: their hair, color palette, ears. in order: HI3, GGZ, genshin)

nahida -> theresa the whitewashing w this one is so ugly it makes me so mad bc story-wise i actually think nahida is a successful theresa alt. i just hate that they used it as an excuse to whitewash her. like. theresa being a clone of kallen whos physical body can only age to 13 and nahida being a small splintered part of rukkhadevata..... nahida being locked up by the sages because they didnt respect her and otto keeping theresa cooped up both because he cared about her and didnt wnat her to get in his way......... nahida being the archon of wisdom and theresa being the principal of st freya......... EVEN LIKE. THE TIME BETWEEN RUKKHADEVATA & NAHIDA BEUNG THE SAME AS KALLEN & THERESA (500 YEARS).. and, of course, nahida's attempts at addressing the discrimination/inequality between the two sumeru regions being akin to theresa's attempts to right otto's wrongs after she becomes schicksal's overseer. also the religious imagery w theresa and kallen veing christian and nahida and rukkhadevata and both being underestimated for their young appearances. not including ggz theresa here. (below is theresa's verdant sky skin, the first battlesuit of hers we see, and nahida. after is kallen and then rukkhadevata. take note the color schemes, braids vs ponytails, height)

al haitham -> su same as nahida it pisses me off so so much they whitewashed al haitham for this. but looking aside from the obvious visual similarities for a sec ok listen hear me out. su's buddhism and association w honkai's realm sumeru AND al haitham, of course, being from sumeru which is a nation heavily inspired by buddhism.... al haitham having connections to mirrors and light.. su literally keeping his eyes closed for the majority of the time......... both being rather quiet...... they do not act similarly though which i think serves them both well :] something abt su having such strong morals and convictions and literally being a fucking hero and carrying a lot of guilt in part because hes a healer who's lost so many while al haitham has a seemingly "uncaring" demeanor (not actually uncaring btw) which is something imparted onto him by his grandma.. visuals below (in order: HI3 su, genshin haitham)

design-wise:

heres a few people have suggested but i just dont agree or theyre only linked through design.

lisa -> rita (fallen rosemary battlesuit especially)

jean -> durandal/bianka

kazuha -> jingwei fu hua

young shenhe, xianyun -> azure empyrea fu hua i do not. get this one tbhes.

theres also welt yang/joachim and zhongli but while i think theyre very fun to think about in tandem from a lore perspective, i really dont think zhonglis inspired by joachim. FUCK I CANT ADD ANY MORE PHOTOS.

[oathofkaslana]

hiii!! I really love how you think about the lore; so i wanted to know how you think the inevitable Rhine & Albedo reunion will go.? What it'll be like, the actual situation it'll happen in,, all of that!!

Since we just saw Skirk and Childe meet again and it was, interesting, to the say the least; how do you think Albedo's gonna react to seeing rhine after all this time? and vice versa!! 💜

OK HI MONARD!!!!!! <33333 OUGHHHH IM SO SO EXCITED. AND I HAVE HIGH HOPES..

albedo and rhine are so deeply interesting rn. she symbolizes both his life and death all the same so i feel like its only fitting if we see her during albedo's corruption. perhaps she returned because of the corruption? perhaps to get albedo's answer before he dies (assuming he would be fated to)? either way mixed emotions all around! i have a hard time parsing rhine which yk. makes sense seeing as we know so little of her. but i do think she cares for her creations, just maybe not in the best way possible. i think she's looking forward to albedo's answer. and i think albedo's answer would have to be best communicated through action (re: his wondering if the traveler could stop him from destroying mond). bc that martyrdom born from a love and compassion of others (something so tenderly fostered by alice and klee) would be his answer to the truth and meaning of the world. n i think that would tie in so so well w the traveler seeing as how their entire mission is made of grief and love AND its a direct change from what we would expect rhine to want (albedo going from someone purely focused on a logical and scientific answer only to find the answer is something as fluid and enigmatic as emotion..) AND it fits in w your rhine posting :3

[oathofkaslana]

I saww someone ranting about it earlier today; and since you’re the #1 collie fan I know, how do you feel about her treatment from the comics to her appearances in game??💜

GOD. DEAR GOD. ok this will take a moment. be patient w me

short answer: 2 me. in game collei is a poorly done adaptation of webtoon collei (which. i feel the need to note. was not perfect at all i just think her story was done better there). in game collei is wasted potential and mischaracterizes her for the sake of profit over artistic direction which honestly. leads to a bit of ableism and misogyny.

long answer: DEAR GOD. COLLEI. ok. the comics are in no way perfect. they're incredibly racist (particularly with barnabas's design), and they're not at all the perfect portrayal ever of a kid with cptsd. but with webtoon collei we got this story of a little kid who was so angry at everyone because she'd been hurt time and time again to the point where she genuinely believed that other people would always hurt her and she was just inherently a bad person. she believed her chronic illness was a sign of the archons hating her. she believed that the archons didn't care about her. she believed that she was inherently worth less than other people, ESPECIALLY those with visions. so we start off w that lil kid who's so rightfully angry and had to fend for herself using powers she was forced to have (the archon residue that actively feeds and stokes her negativity)! she literally kills people without remorse the first three pages we see her!!!!!! and it only turns around when amber (a vision user!!) is unrelentingly kind to her and keeps reinforcing this idea that collei is a human that is deserving of good and is capable of good. amber makes collei believe that she isn't doomed for some awful destructive fate. amber is the first person that shows collei that she believes her life matters. amber is the first person collei has met that unrelentingly believes in her humanity and goodness and makes an active effort to reinforce it. that kindness! and the want to believe she can do that! (the want to believe in amber) is ultimately the thing that spurs collei to action!!!!! her arc os essentially about kindness, finding humanity in yourself, and finding and believing in agency for yourself. and obv cyno plays a big part here and its the start of her rebirth symbolism ofc. etc etc etc.

then the game. i do think the game got some things correct! like i do generally like the change in character and i think that's expected for someone like collei who idolizes amber so much to the point of wanting to be her. i also really enjoy her character stories and a lot fo ehr voice lines. and i really really like how she's still obviously dealing with her cptsd. i like that it didn't go away! she still has triggers! she mentions anxiety! our first introduction to her was her having a nightmare!!

lsBUT the game also does a lot wrong imo. i think the game has a tendency to reduce collei a lot. while i do think the initial direction w her sweet nice girl facade was intended to show her admiration towards amber and lack of real identity/faith in identity for herself, i think it's been too. vague. and led to this becoming her Actual personality instead of a facade she's attempting to become. like while i don't think its inherently insidious i do think it's kinda suspect that they allow characters like scara (who's very similar to collei) to keep the asshole parts of their identity with their healing arcs but never let collei express that part of herself when it was such a huge part of her original character. (her cynicism being fostered by her environment and a protective thing for her and made her a nice character foil to amber). also the magicuring. i fucking hate how they handled eleazar in the game. like even if it weren't incredibly ableist for them to be treat chronic illness as a narrative device that's always meant to be cured, it was actively corrosive to collei's character bc so much of her arc is realizing her own worth and healing mentally even while her eleazar was getting worse. it means so so much for collei to be at a better state and actually have some sense of compassion for herself when she's experiencing flare ups from her chronic illness that everyone told her was the reason why she was worthless in the first place! and taking that away from her! taking that away from disabled players in general! sucked a lot!!!! i also think the game just does not want to acknowledge what collei's arc actually was and how much anger and exploitation it involved. especially in the 3.5(?) windblume event where she was compared to sucrose because of anxiety when their anxieties are so different (both being incredibly valid ofc but sucrose's social anxiety and fear of abandonment can not aptly be compared to collei's anxiety thats a byproduct of her cptsd from yk. experiencing discrimination and almost dying multiple times and human experimentation etc etc..) it often feels like they're rebranding her entire character to be more focused on this particular anxious nice girl image for the sake of consumerability (its how the fandom sees her and its easy for her to fit into tropes like that), this easy to sell found family w her tighnari and cyno (like i love their unit but dear god. i hate the way they've been written sometimes bc it feels like she's an accessory to those two who are also being flanderized), misogyny (again. collei is so much more similar to scara than she is sucrose and the difference between how they’re treated makes me so sad). AND because she's a four star she's so often side-lined! it's really disappointing to see how little of a role she played in sumeru when. honestly i think adding her to a larger part of sumeru could've benefited the story esp bc she's literally the first sumeru character we've seen and has been teased in the game since 1.0.

basically. collei is colleinations collective oc now :3

[oathofkaslana]

hi!!!! lee!!!! do you have any specific, favorites tropes (romantic, just plot-wise, or platonic!!) from hi3? :”3 💜

WOOO!!! :333 HAI <333

every single hi3 relationship to me is just what if home was a person and every time i think about it i start gagging and throwing up and vomiting and killing and <- kiana and mei being the ones to end each others loneliness, bronya and seele returns to each other marking points of domestic stability, sakura and kallen finding a new life within each other, siegfried and cecilia going to places they wouldnt go because of each other and holding that so dear that ceci craves freedom from schicksal after and siegfried goes back to schicksal for her.

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what are!!!! your favorite motifs!!! from the elysian realm, and main story, respectively !!! (and any of the other storyline mode thingies… that I cannot remember the name of … like the open world one with yae sakura!!! i think!!!)

YAYAYYAYAYYYY TY CREPE <33333

7. Are there any fun motifs?

oughhh one that i fucking looove are wings (herrscher wings in particular) and the way it ties back to kevin's ongoing philosophical debate on why birds fly (and that being a metaphor for humanity and its continued desire to fight for their survival against the honkai). it makes me weep so hard. i'm not sure if that was intentional but it still makes me sick in the head.

its been foreverrr since ive done the elysian realm jkbhsd. maybe its bc of the hexenzirkel event but whats particularly striking to me is the use of stories (ex: the realm having a type writer that types out summaries of things occuring in the realm, mei and kiana promising to exchange stories of the FC/kiana's poems, i believe elysia's backstory was narrated like a fairytale as well. its esp nice considering the elysian realm was their happy ending yk. confirmation that humanity had hope via its visitors (mei in particular) and the only time they all really fought together. this + the parts in chapter 32 (i think) where prometheus uses stories as a metaphor for humanity (and as a result, the herrscher of reason).. whatevr WHO CARESSSS <- guy who cares a lot

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hi lee !!!! i hope you've had a super great day so far !!! 💜💜💜;; do you have any thoughts on all the hexenlore we got in the new event? or even just the way they paralleled durin & klee at the end because. hello !!!!!!!!!

every time i want to respond to this ask i open it and then proceed to bang my head on a wall for a few hours but also

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you know it would be soooo awesome if you explained Cyno lore/your analysis of him (I’m so incredibly lost; my brain is too full of insane scientists for comprehension of him by himself.)

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!!!!! MY LIL GUYYYYYY!!

:3 see the frustrating thing abt cyno is that his character stories barely tell about his lore in the way you’d want it to. his affiliation is stated as with the temple of silence and there’s next to nothing else about them in the entire fucking game. BUT THAT ASIDE!!

from what we know of cyno’s ethnically from the desert but he wasn’t raised there. (his job as the general mahamatra allows him to take visit the desert a lot though. a lot of his work is there.) he made a pact with the god inside of him (hermanubis) and because of this, the akademiya wanted to run experiments on him. he was protected from these experiments by professor cyrus who took him in! he’s cyno’s adoptive father :)

now with the pact he quite literally describes himself as a vessel for hermanubis and he calls upon his powers during his burst! hermanubis initially caused cyno a lot of pain but their relationship somehow got better to the current point of their relationship where they work in tandem as vessel and god.

he and lisa were kinda classmates (they were both spantamad) but lisa is his senior. their relationship is very familial-like :3 (there’s a part in 3.5 windblume where they explain that the darshans can be akin to an academic-based family :’] and she teases him by referring to him with the little brother honorific (弟弟/ didi)

lisa sent a letter to cyrus asking for help in collei’s sake and cyrus sent cyno :3 hence why he came to mond, sealed collei’s archon residue, and eventually led collei back to gandharva ville to live under the tutelage of his best friend, tighnari.

ALSO. he and candace are literally complements to each other :’) (cyno being the sun and candace being the moon, one having the eye of ra and the other having the eye of horus, both sharing a signature polearm, both having connections to either al ahmar or kasala, al ahmar’s faithful priest)

AND NOW PERSONAL HEADCANONS/INTERPRETATIONS BC HE MAKES ME SICK DEAR GOD.

OK SO. this is all in my head btw.

- in my head the experiments cyno was almost subjected to were apart of dottore’s extended attempts to elevate humanity to the gods. (other actual parts of his motive are his experiments on collei and scara).

- cyno recognized collei as someone inflicted with archon residue after reading his letter. i don’t think he realizes both the experiments she was apart of and he could’ve been apart of are linked, but i do think he feels incredibly guilty for not being able to prevent it (even if he quite literally couldn’t have known/done anything)

- in fact! i think part of the reason why he became the general mahamatra is because he believed the experiments he could’ve been subjected to was a show of the akademiya’s corruption. i think he trusted the akademiya very much because cyrus was apart of the akademiya and because he loves cyrus and cyrus loves him so so much :’) i think he wanted to prevent that from ever happening again.

- in my head this is also why he’s so so adamant on keeping to the six cardinal sins.

- i think this is also why he felt so so strongly about figuring out the sage’s corruption and betrayal in the sumeru archon quest. so mcuh so that he quit without mention and went on to do his own investigation and prevention. to me this also explains why he was so distrustful of al haitham to the point of literally attacking him the way he did kfbdjdhdjd.

- also related to the human experimentation but i think it could be compelling commentary for medical exploitation of marginalized communities and cyno being from the desert and that happening to him is sooo.. it’s something. (it’s not perfect of course i’d still rather him yk. not be a fucking cop but.)

- he and collei are very obvious narrative parallels in a way that makes me so so sick especially bc in collei’s vl about him we learn that thinking about the sealing ritual can bring her very painful flashbacks to it. even now she slips up and forgets to refer to him informally. he kinda understands how she feels (though he’ll never get it). he just wants her to be safe. and collei doesn’t know! when she leaves with cyno we know nothing about hermanubis! all we knew is that cyno clearly took inspiration from anubis! AND THAT MAKES ME SO SICK (it’s also a big part of my webtoon spin off au which is a character study following collei and cyno’s way to sumeru and collei’s first few weeks or so in gandharva ville. the entire this is heavily collei-centric of course but the first part is a big character study on cyno and collei and their tumultuous relationship w both each other and themselves.)

GODD HE MAKES ME SO SO SICK I LOVE HIM SO MUCH CYNOOOOOO CYNOOOOOO CYNOOOOOOOO!!!

[oathofkaslana]

hhihi lee!!! hope you’re having/had a great day 💜 ;; i can remember which exact post it was you nade,, but I think at some point I remember you said you wouldn’t really like for elysia (or. the flamechasers as a whole. can’t fully remember) to have expys in Genshin, and I was very very curious why :’)

HAI :3

the elysia one is self explanatory w how elysia's existence is literally a phenomenon that breaks the laws of physics as they know it shes literally a miracle child that exists outside of finality's herrscher cycle despite being a herrscher. but w the flamechasers its moreso their. team?

i think such a fun thing abt the flamechasers is that they never really got to be a team altogether which is why seeing them fight the herrscher of corruption was so so fun especially since it was their sim versions of themselves and not their actual selves. the flamechasers are tragic! and i really really like that bc their entire story is about hope!!!! they also only really worked because of elysia.

[oathofkaslana]

bronseele vs kiamei vs elydenponia ultimate ranking

OUGHHH.

kiamei i love the way the late game treats them and i love how their relationship always emphasizes them as equals <3 their genuine devotion to each other and the way they both represent goodness/community to each other makes me weep since both of them struggle with viewing themself as good or human or worthy of company.. also banger lines what the fuck "lofty aspirations such as saving the world, i too understand this. but how can i endure when i know deep down in my heart that compared to the world, you are more important." "and in my heart, you're the most special part of all the beautiful things in the world." HELLO????????????????????????????????????????????????

bronseele FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im such a bronseele warrior but i do think the fact that it relies so heavily on azure waters brings it down esp since i genuinely think they couldve focused on the themes within them even more and made it hit so much harder. but also i will take absolutely no slander on them they make me weep theyre literally just kids who saw the truth in each other in an orphanage that was their first real point of reference for a stable domestic life. they made each other feel normal which is important bc their lives suck ass!!!!!!! the fact that they keep saving each other in part because theyre really the only ones they feel like they can rely on makes me sick

elydenponia i love them i really really really do but they are definitely my fourth favorite hi3 pairing because the flame chasers arc didnt have enough of them to outweigh the insane horses that are kiamei, sakukallen, and bronseele to me. they deserve so much more recognition though of course elysia and edens appreciation of humanities, eden and aponia's grief over elysia, elysia and eden being able to lift aponia out of the darkness, eden and aponia both choosing to stay in the previous era (eden especially because she "belongs in the previous era"), ely's goodbye love song, aponia merging w the elysian realm to honor elysia's memory, eden's sim shattering so that mei could revive elysia's sim and saying that "to be apart of her forever is the most romantic nding" or sm like that, aponia and eden being made to work together and always being paired together in art, apoeden "im the bearer and youre the giver"..., THEYRE SO GOOD.

[oathofkaslana]

hi lee!!! i forgot to ask. before. when the trailer was released. but since i know sethos and cyno are connected;; what are your opinions on sethos (so far) :''

hai crepe!! i have not watched the trailer so i know absolutely nothing abt sethos pther than briefly looking at his design. he's definitely interesting though.. i noticed some of his detailing matches cynos so now im Hm..... but no thoughts until it comes out o7

[oathofkaslana]

hi lee!!!

I have this horrible horrible habit of referring to peoples users as their last names. and ever since you got your new user you have actually just been Lee Kasalana in my head and it’s. really funny

JKDBHSNDKJS HELP. thats so funny truly a bearer of the curse moment for me.