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[monasatlantis]

My Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Review

People I have to be honest with you. I am so tired of this game. Tired of the new Final Fantasy 7 games. Of the fandom. Of the shipping war, of the fact that the only thing that I truly care about in this game, which is the ship I like, has been ruined for me by now and all that Kingdom-Hearts-Like bullshit with Sidegames and different timelines and all that stuff. So my Review is really just a lazy "I hate this game and its fandom and its characters and now even my shippiness is ruined" - kind of review. Not in Interview Style. Just random thoughts that are all over the place, like the ending of this freaking game.

Overall, I can say Gameplay-Vise and Pacing-Vise this game was definitively better than Remake. Tho this pacing has been almost ruined by the immense amount of bullshit Minigames that weren't exactly placed in the game in a well balanced way. Storywise tho, I have to say that Remake was more intriguing and more interesting. With this game, it felt to me like the only "Plot-Relevant" reason to play it, the only thing people really cared about were Aeriths death, Zack and Shippings. Which should not be the only good or interesting reason to play a 120 hours game. But the game had not much else interesting to offer - at least not for me - while I found that Remakes story, despite the fact that I hated the game as whole, was much more interesting and motivating than this one. It was basically 12 chapters of watching Clouds sanity falling apart while NO ONE does anything against it. Boring shit, I tell you. I guess the most interesting thing was Baretts Past. Even tho that story had some holes and wasn't something I was actively waiting for. But it was the most intriguing part of the story, besides waiting for the bullshit answer of why Zack and Biggs are still freaking alive.

I did think the balance between Plot, exploring and and Dungeons was really well done tho. And I also found the way the game was made was really intended to fit for all kind of players. Completionists had LOTS of stuff to do. People who loved the possibility of exploring a relatively open world also had lots to do and lots to look at and to fight and found and find out - tho I do agree with some people that they could have made it feel more natural BUT in the end, fulfilling Chadleys "missions" still ended up having a satisfying conclusion - or so I've heard since I only rush through the main story and the most necessary Sidemissions to get through the game as fast as possible - and not just because it sucks, but also because that is just the way I like to play. (Especially when I play a game for the very first time.) Once again the Minigames and how they were placed in the game kind of ruined this Balance. Like... A LOT. My two friends who completed the game like 100% and do usually like to do Minigames said that even they found that at some point it was really too much and almost getting ridiculous. For me personally, who HATES Minigames, this was a freaking nightmare and a big reason for A LOT of Anger and frustration. So theoretically, if it weren't for the Minimissions, this was a well-balanced game with a good pacing.

The Team of characters is a wild mix which usually isn't a bad thing. But somehow I just can't see them being a good and caring Team at all. Some random people who work together for more or less a common goal. But they do not really feel like a family or anything most of the time. If Aerith felt like, she should tell a lie about how Sephiroth got the black Materia from Cloud, because otherwise they might turn their backs on him instead of realizing that he actually needs help, then that says a lot about the team. Not that I have much good to say about the team, even without the whole Clouds-Sanity-Problem. It just didn't feel like a good team to me at all. Like I didn't feel good between them, if you get my drift. For me a good team is one, were I as a Player feel good among. Its hard to describe the feeling that I am missing with that bunch but I can certainly say that this feeling IS missing. Tho I guess you have to see that they do not know each other for so long and that their reasons and motives differ. The characters in itself weren't bad. Its not like I truly dislike any of them. In fact, I care enough to be angry at them for being stupid or assholes. And I have to say, Barett, who I disliked the most in the first game, has become one of the most sympathetic characters to me in the game. That really surprised me. But I feel like its because while the first game mostly showed him as a terrorists who spits bullshit as excuse for killing people or their jobs or taking their lights or anything, this time you can see a lot more of the softer, human and caring side of this man. He is probably not my favorite but... honestly? At this point, no one is!

Grafik was amazing as usual. The 4K scenes looked like they were right out of a movie. Absolut eye-candy. And I can not help but say that it looked A LOT better than Final Fantasy 16 did. The Soundtrack, as usual, was also amazing. Songs were also all well placed and no song was overused. They outdid themselves with this amazing Title-Song too. I can not stress enough how much more impact a song has on a game and you as a player if a song is "made and sung" by a character from the game about something the the players understand. That is why "Eyes on me" and "1000 Words" were such amazing songs. Because you could feel them and you could somewhat relate to the people singing it because you knew their situation and feelings. So like 100 out of 10 points for no Promises to keep. Battlesystem was doable. Nothing to argue about there. But as long as it is doable even for someone like me, I do not put it high on my priority list. Tho I think I should mention it. I did like the new Synergy-Attacks, tho. Nice idea. )Barett and Aerith looked "like a boss", if you get me XD)

Aside from the horror amount of non-optional minigames left, right and center, there were like 2 or 3 other things that really bothered me. First it was the explanation for how Biggs and Zack survived and that was basically a "it was a miracle" - thing that Zack believes was Aeriths doing. Its basically a "A Wizard did it" - kind of explanation. Like... Aerith create a new timeline by cheating or what? Biggs just magically appeared in the Orphanage? WTF?! How is that even a way to create a new timeline? I thought changes and choices would do that? What if the guy who shot the final bullet at Zack got a weapon-malfunction and the thing exploded and knocked out some of the soldiers and then Zack managed to beat the rest and that is how he was saved? It is at least an explanation! And what if Wedge instead of going for his cats, went to save Biggs first, but then gave him to some random guy from sector 7 and only then went for his cats? SOMETHING. ANYTHING that would make freaking sense instead of being a magical deus ex machina. Not to mention that Biggs purpose is absolutely unclear to begin with. Right to the point were he just got shot to death in one of the timelines. Like... why did Aerith save him if his purpose was to never find his purpose and after he though he found it, he just got shot like some random NPC that only survived to make Zack look for his purpose, which is something that actually any random NPC could have done, in fact. The next thing that bothered me is how no one, not even Tifa and Aerith who care so much about Cloud didn't say or do anything about Cloud slowly but surely losing it. He almost killed Tifa, but just because she suddenly remembered him saving her when she was a child, he was suddenly a hero and everything was great. And then she promised him to save him only to let him go on and on and on while his sanity and self-control was obviously fading more and more. When he says he is not like Sephiroth Tifa says that "They know." and "Its okay." But NOTHING is okay and they also do not really KNOW anything, because instead of facing that Cloud has a problem that they need to find a solution for, they just let him almost kill them all and become Sephirots puppet that throws Tifa away and chases Aerith down like a maniac. And Aerith herself isn't any better than Tifa. The harder this problem became, the more she let Tifa handle it until Tifas methods didn't work anymore either. And at the end, she decided into fooling Cloud to believing she is still alive even tho in the end the realization what really happened will crush him even more on top of everything else. These are the two girls that are supposed to care about him the most and they just allow him to first go insane and then keep him in the most instable state he ever was in, instead of allowing him to finally crush so they can work on helping him to get better and get his self-control back. The third thing, is that sometimes the characters didn't feel like themselves. Like... they did things that I would have not thought they would do or say or that made their relationships with each other look bad, even tho it shouldn't be that way. Like Aerith in Kalm. When she was holding on to Cloud after saying they were "kind of" on a date and she kept doing that even tho both he and Tifa felt obviously uncomfortable about it. Yes, she is a tease, but this was going on for just too long and felt absolutely stupid AFTER she told Cloud to fix things with Tifa. Not to mention that the two girls are obviously friends who do not which to argue about Cloud. That just didn't feel like something she would do to this extent. For a few seconds as a tease? Sure! But even holding on after Cloud was trying to push her off? No! (We could also talk about how it was not right of the Devs to position Aerith and Cloud on that stupid Watertower that was supposed to be Cloud and Tifas spot. It was respectless regarding both ships, if you ask me.)

The ending was absolutely stupid! Aeriths death scene was ruined by the confusing jumping between "dead" "saved" "dead" "saved" "dead?" "saved?" "not dead?" "not saved?" - scenes. Even with Cloud crying there was no emotional impact here because as the player the confusion won over the sadness. Getting this stupid "Cloud thinks Aerith is still alive" - kind of goodbye instead of the actual water-burial scene was also so damn frustrating. Neither he nor we managed to get a satisfying kind of "closure" - moment thanks to all that timeline bullshit. I also do not like that the whole theme of that Remake-Bullshit-Idea was to "defy fate" and yet in one of the timelines, Aerith died exactly the same way she did before, despite the fact that Sephiroth might actually sabotage himself by killing her. So why exactly did we play this game? Why did we go though all the changes just to end up the same way as before + all that timeline bullshit? I am not one of those "Remake the game 1:1" - kind of people but I agree with them at this one point. At least kill the girl of a bit later and in a different way instead of repeating the one thing that REALLY would be an impactful change.

I need to talk about shipping here, but I really don't want to. The Clerith-Game was so darn strong in Remake, just to be ruined in Rebirth for whatever stupid reason. I mean, why did I get a date in which Aerith said she loved Cloud for Cloud and not for the parts that remind her of Zack just to end up with a date that basically mirrors her date with Zack, but went totally wrong in the end? How can we go from Cloud almost kissing Tifa in a canon scene to this heartbreaking moment of Cloud cradling Aerith in his Arms when he "thought" she was dead and then "woke her up" again? WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT? Why do we get Marlene telling Zack that Aerith has feeling for Cloud, just for Zack to go find help for Cloud with Aeriths Hairband wrapped around his hand like a lucky charm? And why does someone write the Lyrics of "No Promises to keep" in that way just to say it is not a lovesong? What is wrong with the people in this franchise? I am so sick of this.

This game is NOT a Masterpiece that deserves 10 out of 10 points. Its a walking boring disappointment, full of stupid minigames, timeline bullshit and a Dating-mechanic that doesn't even allow completionists to choose which person they want to go on a date with and on top of all that they do NOT defy fate and yet still managed to ruin THE most iconic freaking scene of any Final Fantasy game! This can only come from a company censoring Tifas big boobs in the first just to showcase them as a selling point in one of their second game. What the hell is wrong with you SE?! And how can you allow the freak that ruined Kingdom Hearts and caused you so much trouble with what should NOT have been Final Fantasy 15 take over such an important project? I can not get all those people loving this game. It sucks! In a totally different way than the first game, but it still freaking sucks!

I give it barely 7 out of 10 points. Its Sin-Counter would be like 300 or so tho, if I would have put it through Game-Sins, just saying.

URG! I really should not play the next installment. Reunion is going to make my crack my PlayStation in anger and frustration. And for what? For people to ruin me 3 shipping-scenes and more timeline bullshit?

I think I am also so disappointed because Remake was that game that had the potential but ruined it and when the second game came out and got those amazing reviews I though, I hoped and I wished for the fact that I would enjoy playing it but I did not. There were barely any moments where I even wanted to open the game for any other reason then finishing it as fast as possible to get rid of it. I just... can not bring myself to love Final Fantasy games anymore. Maybe the Trails-Series has ruined me for other games or maybe everyone else's taste in games has developed with the games over the years and I am still stuck with how thing were with Final Fantasy X. I don't know! But I can not tell you how frustrating it is to - now for the freaking second time - hate a game and do not find it that great why everyone else is all so amazed by it.

And then forcing myself through this freaking toxic fandom and its stupid shipping war.

Just for your information: THERE IS NO CANON SHIP IN THIS GAME! LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT!

And now I need to get the fuck away from the franchise.

[asoulofatlantis]

So guys... it is time. I am... not exactly in the mood for the game right now, but were doing this anyway. It is time for Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. The game I preordered on Amazon didn't arrive so I bought it digital after it was sold out in my local store. This all took a while, but now we are finally ready to play part two of the Final Fantasy 7 R Trilogie.

I've seen the leaks for shipping stuff and the ending. So I am prepared for the worst.

As a warning: I am a Clerith shipper and the canon can kick my ass! BUT I am not an Anti-Shipper for Clothi per se, so no hate has to be expected from me. HOWEVER... I will be really critical with some decisions SE made in that regard. Starting with the biggest one: You do not take your save file from the first game with you, meaning whoever you dated there, is irrelevant to Rebirth. Meaning, that Rebirth needs to make it look like you're relationship with the girls has progressed the same amount in the past game and that will cause some issues. But we talk about that when the time comes, I just wanted to warn you, that I won't play too nice here XD

Other then that, people who know me, know that I've loathed Remake, mostly for its padding and the annyoing plot(in)conviniences that were needed to even make it work. HOWEVER, as padding should not be needed anymore in this game, this is Square Enixs chance to redeem Final Fantasy 7.

Oh, one more warning: I have not seen or played Crisis Core but I do know the ghist of Clouds and Zacks situation just not all the Details. I also have yet to watch Advent Children - which obviously plays after this game, but is supposedly still canon (which is a huge Spoiler in itself, if that is true... but whatever, SE is stupid anyway XD) so I am not fully aware of were this is leading to BUT I do also know a few details from this game, so once again, I am not completly blind.

In any case, the tag will be: FF7R Mona Version

I've decided to use the old tag once more, because in a sense, it IS the same game. Its just that Square Enix decided to make 3 parts out of it to milk the fabdom dry.

Anyway... lets get started!

[tevinterspirit]

tagged by @reigev thank you so much mona 💗💕💖

top three ships at the moment: wangxian have a permanent place in my brain so i'm thinking about them all the time. ahhh the melody of memory trailer has me in a kingdom hearts mood so i've been thinking about soriku a lot lately. oh and aerti.......ugh they're amazing....would love to play ff7r someday

book im currently reading: i've just been reading manga lately. I watched beastars and jibaku shounen hanako-kun recently and I decided I can't wait for the season 2 for both of them lol so those are what i'm currently going through rn

food im craving: i'm always craving pupusas but i'm also dying for the thai milk tea from my favorite boba place

tagging: @herevard | @boahancokk | @space--cowboys | @stvnningstrike if you would like to do this ofc! ❤

[monasatlantis]

Why has no one made a GiF out of this scene yet? I found it so cute how protecting her was his first instinct, even tho there wasn't much he could do.

[asoulofatlantis]

Before I go and finish Persona 5 Strikers, so that I can FINALLY go back to Cold Steel 3 and 4, I decided to get sidetracked (yet again ^^’) and buy myself another game I couldn’t afford, on my computer which won’t last much longer - to give you a picture of my current situation.

As you know, I’ve been playing TwoPoint Hospital, because it reminded me of the old game “Themen Hospital” that I played (and sucked at XD) when I was a child. Well, even using Wemod to get rid of the fact that even in games I can not seem to get a grip on my financial situation, I have a harder time getting through that game then one would think. However, I still like to play it ever now and then.

So... I couldn’t help but also want TwoPoint Campus. And even tho I wasn’t planning to get it right at its release day, the day before I want on my vacation no less, I still did it ^^’

I have to admit, I still need Wemod for financial problems XD But I really like that game a lot more then TwoPoint Hospital. I think the developers learned a lot from the previous game and made this one even better through it. So I do not regret (yet again) spending money I don’t have on a game I don’t need ^^’

Tho I have to say that I wonder... I play games like this ever since my childhood and yet, I never learned to get a grip on handling the finances in those games. Maybe I am hopeless after all, when it comes to handling money.

As with the issue of my computer getting old and... well... showing me its been overused the past almost 5 years, I am planning to get a new one in do time. Do to the horrendous requirements a gaming PC needs these days, I will have to take yet another loan to afford it tho. I use that thing almost every day for many hours. Its for writing, watching “TV”, listening to music, playing games and doing stuff for work. So it is well used and well worth the money as it replaces a TV and even some consoles. Still... I wish I could live with less ^^’ 

[asoulofatlantis]

I hope that Intermission will be the last time you will see me play this game. Like... ever.

Are these guys just walking around freely all the freaking time? Like... they are in such a bad state, how do they even get to all those places were they show up? I mean, they seem to be EVERYWHERE.

This is the third one. Why do they all show up here?

I mean... she does look rather young for such a job.

Oh you’ve got to be kidding me...

At this point I wonder if I should just go and watch whatever happens in this episode in YouTube ^^’ Because all I want to do is rush through that DLC. Instead they make me play stupid board-games and collect Flyers.

I am sorry, but no. I am not playing this. I don’t have the will nor the nerves for this. I watch it on YouTube. It just... doesn’t seem worth the trouble or the time. There is... no real benefit in playing this, really. Aside from Yuffis introduction and some extra-scenes for the Ending. And both are not worth that I am playing this myself.

I think its nice that they show us what happened while Cloud was having fun running on rooftops with Aerith and how Tifa got to Corneo and all that... but its not like it was THAT important that we absolutely needed to see it. I just mean with this, that I would like to question how useful this DLC actually is ^^’

This whole mission was another one of those “padding” - missions and that in a freaking DLC. What was SE thinking? The YouTuber himself complained how useless this mission was.

I feel you man... I feel you.

At least she got rid of the coat. She looked awful in this thing and... are her trousers open? O.O

I recently was in a train that looked and felt like this... so I can relate to feeling sick in the midsts of all those people stuffed together... some of them smelling and with the air in the train overused. Urg. Tho I didn’t have a protective man shielding me ^^’

Shinras arrogance is really on another level. They have terrorists and people from the enemy in their base and instead if killing them, they just use them for tests, even tho that could mean they survive and can fulfill their plans.

[asoulofatlantis]

Okay... that was fun at some point.

Uh... uhm... this is really getting ridicoulus ^^’ Then again I get to play all the cool/hot guys who can have ALL the girls... it is kind of cool in a way XD

Nope! Not my type, sorry ^^’

Shorty after that you get a moment with Tifa. I wonder how it would feel like if you would have agreed on a date with Jessie...

This boy is haunted somehow ^^’

How many girls can say they got carried bridal style by Cloud - at least as long as they are alive? XD

[asoulofatlantis]

Hui... Aerith und Tifa sind echt ein gutes Team.

Nehmt dieses Bild wörtlich, den wen Cloud zuerst wach rüttelt hat Einfluss auf die geheimen “Affection-Points” der Mädels.

Ich hab heute fünf Stunden FF7R gespielt und bin nur zwei Kapitel weiter gekommen. Ich kann nicht mehr.

Aber wenigstens war Kapitel 9 Mal interessant. Auch wenn ich hätte auf die Minigames verzichten können...

[asoulofatlantis]

No idea if this isn’t the biggest waste of time in this game or actually the most informative part of the game. I certanly think this is not exactly necessary and wandering through it, once again - in true JRPG-style, and yes, I am aware that many other JRPGs do the same - we look like we have all the time in the world and are absolutely not in a rush, even tho at this very moment very cruel experiments could be done with Aerith.

FF7R never misses a chance to show you how good this game looks and for once, I am not complaining XD

No idea what was going on in this scene. But basically, it looks like one of Clouds visions - tho we have yet to discover why he has them.

Oh... so this time it was not just one of Clouds visions? WTF was that then? I doubt that it was part of the actual movie they were supposed to watch. Was it Sephirots doing?

Can I kill this creepy man? Please? I might get nightmares from him otherwise.

And now the second time I have to google where I can find that accomplice guy, the mayor told me about.

With this guy, I always wonder... should I kill him right away or ask him first what he wanted to say? XD

Its really his own fault, he wanted to tell Cloud that he isn’t a SOLDER before it was his time to find out. Tho I find it quite amusing, that even in this predicament he is like: “What is this fascination phenomenon?”, like a true scientist XD

In any case, we are back to “things you would never understand if you haven’t played the original FF7 compilation OR watched a video were these kind of things get explained. Its a bit annoying really, that I had to watch a 3 hour video to get almost half of the stuff happening in this game.

And even after that damn video I still am not always sure if I get what exactly triggered Cloud most of the time. Tho I guess Sephirot is in charge here...

The Wispers showed up when Aerith tried to explain something to Barrett, after he decided that Cloud should take Aerith out of there while he goes and rips off some Shinra heads. Makes you wonder what exactly she wanted to tell him...

And we are falling again... anyone still surprised at this point? I guess so close to the end, after all the padding we have been through, no one will be surprised that we are falling directly into one of those overlong, unnecessary padding-dungeons, either. And yes, once again - no surprise here either if course - even tho we all stand realtivly at the same place when we fall, we all end up somewhere else again, far away from each other. *yawn* Boring.

Translation: Square Enix didn’t feel the need to bother making him playable so shortly before the game ends, so they just made him a Guest-Character. Which is lame, if you think that this is a main-character we are speaking of.

This is as far as I can take it for today. But as I have reached chapter 17, I am close enough to the end to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Next time on “Mona is roasting everyones favorite Remake”: Make sure not to miss out on SE forcing the companionship between Tifa and Aerith to get bigger, for the sake of the shipping-war not destroying the popularity of one of Falcoms favorite girls...

In any case... I have enough.

[asoulofatlantis]

I can absolutely not bring myself to play either FF7R or The Sky-Saga right now. So instead of wasting more of my time with playing nothing because I feel bad about the fact that I haven’t finish Trails in the Sky 1 and Final Fantasy 7 Remake (yet, again) I just have to move on until I feel like playing and hopefully finishing either of the just mentioned games.

So instead, we go back to the games I bought in my madness when the “Winter-Sale” was still going on on Steam and start Persona 5 Strikers.

Usually I would argue that they, like with the dancing games just want to grab money from Personan-Titles that were really successful. And they really took the take, thinking that I payed the full price for both Persona 5 and Persona 5 Royal... but lets face it: At the end of the day, despite my “milking the fandom” - complains I DID buy the games anyway and I have to admit I actually enjoyed P5R a lot. So... why not give Strikers a chance?

That said... lets get the party started!

(Tag will be “ P5S Mona Version “)

[asoulofatlantis]

I feel really restless and unfulfilled lately and honestly I think that is because of the lag of a new Trails game for me to play (since ever since that faithful day when I started playing Cold Steel 1 the Trails-Saga is the only thing I can think of and its hard to play anything else then a new Trails-Game with all my heart ever since then) and maybe because technically speaking there IS another Trails game for me... I just can not play it until the spreadsheet is done... which makes it really frustrating. Anyway... no game is giving me much fun or fulfillment lately so I have decided to do what I did when I played FF7R for the first time (which was not a really fulfilling experience) and play other games too. So that I have a variety of games I can chose from instead of being stuck with FF7R. (Or being forced to go back to Trails in the Sky, which also isn’t so fulfilling the second time around.) I will very likely go all out this time and also start playing other games (P5S is on my list as well as another round of FE3H. So don’t be surprised if you see me play yet another game and then another one in the next days XD

Anyway, we start with a Falcom-Game - as this might be THE solution to my Trails-Addiction-Problem - but we start like... in the middle of the Ys - Series and if I do like it, we see with which game of the Series we will move forward with after that. Tag will be “ Ys8 Mona Version “ So... lets get the party started.

This is a lie by the way... I started this game yesterday on the Switch and decided that its good enough to buy it again so I can play it on a platform I am more comfortable with XD (Yes, I am a PC-Player.)

[asoulofatlantis]

So 7 out of 10 points for the Final Fanatasy 7 Remake.

Its only because “okayisch” games don’t deserve to go under 5 and there are plus points for prettyness, good music and a few good moments, fights and because (Mini-Game aside) the last chapters have kept me on my toes in a good way.

[asoulofatlantis]

Ich weiß das die Idee des Original Games Aerith mit Red zu paaren äußerst fragwürdig und... uh... ja... eben mehr als fragwürdig war... aber warum denn als alternative ausgerechnet ein SOLDAT? O.o

Alle die in Cloud verliebt sind schreien bitte seinen Namen wenn er zusammenbricht! Sehr gut, Mädels! Richtig schön im Chor XD

Oh guck, Cloud fällt Mal wieder. Das ist so sein Steckenpferd. Fallen kann er gut XD

Das ist etwas worüber sich viele Spieler beschwert haben und ich gebe ihnen recht. Red war in OG ein festes Gruppenmitglied. Ich verstehe das es ungünstig für die Entwickler des Spieles gewesen wäre, jetzt noch all zu viel für ihn zu machen, so zwei Kapitel vor dem Ende, aber in Ordnung ist es trotzdem nicht.

Und schon wieder sind wir alle fast an derselben Stelle gewesen als wir gestürzt sind, aber sind wiedermal Meilenweit von einander entfernt gelandet. Ist das überhaupt logisch?

Inmitten von so einem live-action-kampf ist es schwer Red von den Feinden zu unterscheiden ^^’

Ehrlich gesagt verstehe ich nicht... warum Barett gerettet wurde. Ich verstehe so einiges in diesem Spiel nicht, wenn ich ganz ehrlich bin...

Ist Wedge jetzt doch gestorben? Haben ihn diese Schicksalsmonster gekillt? Aber warum gerade jetzt? Ich verstehe absolut garnichts mehr...

ARG! Aber ich hab doch erst gekämpft und ich konnte garnicht speichern! Hilfe!

Ich hab dieses dämliche Minigame schon im Original-Spiel gehasst wie die Pest. Dort bin ich so oft gestorben das es das Game für mich leichter gemacht hat, damit ich rigendwann Mal davon weg komme - und wieder gab es vorher keinen Speicherpunkt, weil wir natürlich mitten im Finale sind... *sfz* Dabei hab ich doch hunger V.V

ICH HAB KEINEN BOCK MEHR! Welcher Idiot fand es lustig dieses scheiß Minigame so in die länge zu ziehen und das auch noch ohne die Gelegenheit zu speichern?

Ich hab es endlich geschafft und kann speichern! Hooray!

Aber jetzt kann ich den Mist auch genauso gut zuende bringen... 

Honestly, if some of the Fan-Theories are true, that Tifa would die this time, then Cloud has a serious problem. Who would keep him from constantly falling down something, if not her? Aerith can’t do it, because she has a serious problem when it comes to reaching for Clouds hands ^^’

Ich finde im Verlauf des Spieles hat Aeris so ein bisschen ihren Damsel in Distress Titel verloren und anTifa abgegeben. Der arme Cloud muss ihr erschreckend häufig das Leben retten, dafür das sie eigentlich so Badass ist.

Pfffff. Im Vergleich zu den anderen Bossgegnern oder den Mini-Games war Sephiroth einfach XD

Und weil es so schön war, rufen unsere Mädels nochmal “Cloud!” im Chor ^^’ (Ein Glück das die das nicht in gewissen anderen Games auch machen, ich glaube ich könnte Reans namen nicht mehr hören XD)

Ich hoffe alle waren nach dem Ende so verwirrt wie ich XD

FF7R beendet nach 2 Wochen. ^.^v

[asoulofatlantis]

Anstatt nach Pferden suche ich hier natürlich nach Chokobos... *sfz*

Also so als Hintergrundmusik ist die melodie von Hollow schon nicht schlecht.

Ich wollte doch aber nicht zurück in die verdammte Kanalisation! *heul*

Kapitel 16 ist nach etwas über 20 Stunden Spielzeit erreicht. Das Finale nähert sich. Aber ich brauche erstmal ne Pause.

[asoulofatlantis]

So I’ve been in the Clerith-tag a lot lately and found a lot of downplaying the optional Tifa-scene, especially in comparison to Aeriths scene. However, no matter what I ship, I want to see those scenes with an open mind myself. So I watched both scenes (in english and german) and want to write down my own thought about those two scenes...

First of all: Tifas scene is not a friendzone scene. The romantic subtext is rather subtle, especially in comparison to Aeriths scene, but it is obviously there. Of course this scene can be seen as a friend comforting a friend. But it doesn’t give you the “friendzone” - vibe at all. BUT, some things went terrible wrong when they made this scene. Which is why to some people, it may look rather... bad in comparison to Aeriths scene.

Let me get into Aeriths scene first and then into Tifas, to see the problems in that scene in comparison to Aeriths better.

So something that immediately shocked me in the scene with Aerith was that he was almost immediately admitting that he was worried about her. Even in a scene you get for showing the game that Aerith is more important to you, you still expect Cloud to try to cover up the fact that he is worried. (I mean, we know he is, even without this scene, so it would not have been necessary for the player that he actually admits it.) I though he was looking away being all like “Uh... of course not. But for all the stuff I’ve done as your bodyguard, you owe me some money...” or something like that. I would have NEVER expected him to outright and without much hesitation say that he in fact does worry about her. I think it took even Aerith by surprise and shows how important it is that he admitted it. It shows how much she means to him AND that he is not hiding his feelings from her. And while Aeriths states that even if Cloud did fall in love with her, it isn’t real (I totally get why some people think that this hints at him just taking over Zacks feelings...) she gently touches his cheeks while doing so, which is kind of opposing to her words. If she doesn’t want Cloud to fall for her, touching his cheek gently is not the way to prevent this. Cloud trying to get a hold of her hand and stating he is coming for her and her sad but also kind of happy smile after hearing that finish that scene quite nicely and it fits very well when Cloud later says that he thinks Aerith is calling for him. (Tho it kind of is confusing in the german version, when he says that, because there Aerith actually tells him it would be better if he wouldn’t come for her....)

Now... lets look at Tifas scene. There is no doubt Cloud has been worried about her, seeing what she is been through in such a short span of time and I think you can totally feel that in the way he interacts with her. However, in a scene that you get for giving Tifa more attention then Aerith the last thing they should start a conversation about is Aerith. Even tho there is a sense of jealousy and disappointment in Tifas words when talking about the flower, which only show her feelings for Cloud, it still is bad because of Clouds reaction. There is a scene in chapter 8 were Aeriths asks him who he gave her flower too and he states he forgot, because he didn’t want to tell her he gave it to another girl, which indicates romantic interest in Aerith very early on - that was a scene, were I think it should clearly have been a players-choice moment, so that depending on if you love Tifa or not, you could alternatively simply chose to tell Aerith that you gave the flower to a close friend of yours that really like it, of something, instead of hiding it. However, they didn’t do that for a simple reason that is that Cloud has to have some romantic feelings for Aerith, so the impact of her death in one of the later games will be as big as should be. If Aeriths would be completely in the friendzone, Clouds devastation over her death wouldn’t have as much of an impact as it should. Now, you ask what this has to do with that scene? Well... A LOT. When Tifa talked about Cloud having the Flower from Aerith and all that, Cloud should have made clear, that even tho he got it from Aerith, he was thinking of her immediately when he got it and the fact that he gave that flower - whichs meaning Aerith explained to him - to her shows that she is more important then the person who gave him this flower. Or at least something like that. What he does instead, is looking away with guilt written all over his face. And why is that? Well, because they could not afford to hint in any way that Cloud doesn’t have romantic feelings for her, because of the reasons mentioned above. And that gives the start of that TIFA-scene and awul “Aerith” - vibe, if you get what I mean. (I do not agree with anyone stating that there is a hidden meaning behind Tifa stating that the flower is gone now... it simple means she lost that flower that Cloud gave to her, on top of everything else dear to her.) When Tifa seeks comfort in Clouds arms, he is taking FOREVER to hug her back. I absolutely get that it is in-character for Cloud to hesitate a moment and not hug her back and pull her closer immediately but the waiting was immense. After half a minute or so (it felt longer...) even I was like: “For gods sake, just hug the poor girl back already!”, because I couldn’t take it anymore. No compare that to Cloud immediately admitting he is worried about Aerith and you get while his long hesitation was a bad thing. To top this, the scene ends shortly after Tifa stated Cloud hurt her. I get the message behind it, and the message behind it is something good. But the way it played out felt weird. The choice of words made it sound bad, instead of something good - it is of course not good if he almost crushed her, but its good that despite hesitating for ages, he still did hold her tight as long as it was necessary. Her reaction just should have been a bit different.

As you can see, right now SE cockblocks Clerti in certain scenes for the sake of the plot. Which makes this scene look worse then it is and then it should be.

[asoulofatlantis]

Ich zweifle daran das Barrett wirklich so einfach eine Leiter hoch kommen würde, mit dem Waffen-Arm...

Die drei standen relativ nah bei einander... es ist total unrealistisch das sie so entfernt voneinander gefallen sein sollen...

Ich hätte ehrlich nicht gedacht das Wege das überlebt hat. Scheint fast unrealistisch unter den Umständen... aber Pluspunkte dafür das seine Katze überlebt hat XD

Trotzdem war dieses unterirdische Shinra-Labori total deplaziert. wie viele andere Stellen im Spiel, deren Informationsgehalt zwar essentielle sind, deren umsetzung und platzierung aber irgendwie den Spielflow behindern.

Wohoo! Die Kapitel 14 sequenz ist da!

Ich muss jetzt aber Mal sagen... es ist nicht in Ordnung das du eine der drei Szenen sehen kannst und das sie abhänging sind vom “Lovemeter” des Spiels. Alle drei sind irgendwie wichtig. Und es tut mir Leid für Barett und Tifa das sie sich nicht durch das Gespräch mit Cloud etwas beruhigen konnten, weil ich mich für Aeriths-Szene entschieden habe. Die definitiv eine gute und theoretisch auch plotrelevante Szene ist. ABER das macht es nur noch schlimmer. Keine dieser 3 Szenen hätte optional sein dürfen. Man hätte sie auf das Spiel verteilen müssen.

Tifa ihre zuerst, vielleicht wenn wir zum ersten Mal beim Haus sind. Bevor wir schlafen gehen die von Barett und dann beim Schlafen die von Aeriths. Waifu-Wars schön und gut, aber sie können den Inhalt der optionalen-Szenen nicht immer zu Dingen machen die JEDER Spieler hätte sehen sollen, unabhängig davon mit wem er Cloud shippt.

Ich hab da noch zwei oder drei Sachen zu der Szene zu sagen aber... HOLY SHIT! Die Übersetzung der Szene im Deutschen unterscheidet sich ja extrem von der im Englischen. Krass.