#moldave castle

[emmcarstairs]

“Well, dear Father,” she said, “as you insist upon it, I beg that you will bring me a rose. I have not seen one since we came here, and I love them so much.”

— Beauty and the Beast

One of the things that struck me as interesting when I first watched Fallout, was the name choice for Lucy's mother — Rose. I believe it's a very symbolic and deliberate choice, adding to the show's Beauty and the Beast motif.

In the classic fairy tale Beauty and the Beast, Beauty's father angers the Beast by taking a rose from his garden. In exchange for his life, the Beast requests one of his daughters; the one who is courageous enough and loves her father enough to come willingly to his castle. Thus, the rose is the incident that moves the plot forward and the reason why Beauty meets the Beast in the first place.

Well, this is very similar to what happens in Fallout, albeit in a more intricate way.

We are first introduced to Lucy's mother in the very first episode when Lucy tells her father that she wishes her mother was at her wedding. During the show, we see glimpses of her mother and she's always surrounded by vegetation and sunlight.

The inciting incident that triggers the plot in Fallout is Moldaver's attack in Vault 33. Eventually, we learn how the Raiders gained access to the neighboring Vault 32 from the surface. It was thanks to Rose's Pip-Boy. (Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this is the first time her name is ever shown which puts an even greater emphasis on it.) The question of how they obtained it, is left for the last episode.

Finally, the fate of Shady Sands is revealed. It was none other than Lucy's father who found Rose, took the children back home, and destroyed the once lush and populous city. He literally plucked the rose from the garden. His action led to Moldaver raiding the Vault, using Rose's Pip-Boy, and consequently, Lucy bravely leaving the Vault to look for her father, meeting the Ghoul in the process.

Coincidence? I think not.

[livesunique]

Château of the Counts of Marchin, 

Modave, Liège Province, Wallonia, Belgium

[bartholomaus]

ok so maybe "MAYBE" you were there for about 2000 years since the dacian times. my only question is, if you were there for so damn long, in such a good strategic point in europe, filled with such wealth such as gold and iron deposits in the mountains, good trade routes towards the byzantine and adriatic sea trough the pannonian basin,  how the fuck couldnt you develop or build ANYTHING ? transylvania should technically be one of the most strategic points in europe which means a kingdom, a civilization should be able to form pretty easily there unless the people inhabiting the area are extremely uncivilised, not to mention what innovations the romans brought there. so you have no excuse. and honestly i dont know any romanian orthodox church in transylvania before 1400 AD, most castles, churches, in transylvania were built by hungarians, or saxons, for example bran castle, black churcjh, saint michael church, corvin castle, etc the list is long. plus whats with this long pause between dacians and the first wallachian kingdom, dacia ends 100 AD and the first romanian kingdom appears in 1300 AD, there is literally a 1200 year old silence from you guys over there if you were actually the dacians XD . and honestly i have studied history alot cause i find it very interesting and i have never heard of a civilization disappearing and then reapearing 1200 years later, so if you really are the dacians congratulations you are unique in history :). Look i would like to believe you were the dacians, but i only believe a historical idea as a "fact"  as long as i see proof or evidence. first of all if you were actuall the dacians where is the proof ?? the fact that dacian ruins lie in romania doesnt mean you are the direct descendants sure maybe you have some common blood but its not a continual blood line like the greeks have with ancient greeks or armenians with ancient armenians. france also has celtic ruins and they still dont claim to be celts, england also has pre proto indo european ruins and they still dont claim to be them. is there any literary or written evidence ? as far as i know the dacians had some form of proto writing, and romanians up to 1300 AD were illiterate as no form of romanian writing can be found before that.is there any evidence of other nations mentioning "romanians" in that area before 800 AD ? and yeah there are mentions of people living in there, vishigots, gepids, avars, etc but no other neighoubring kingdom or empire mentions them as wlachs, moldavs, dacians, romanians or anything like that, the first ever mention of vlachs is in 1000 AD :). look i would love to believe that you were the dacians, but there is just a huge lack of evidence and as a theory its interesting but you guys are accepting it as a fact which kinda shows how biased history you have, however, while romanians were never mentioned around the area of modern day romania, there were so called "latin speaking nations" being mentioned near the adriatic sea by some kingdoms before the arrivals of the slavs in the adriatic in 600 AD. some of these adriatic romanian people still survive and today their language its  called the armoanian language : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZg5vnJBBB8&t=71s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHcgb_oWmuo&t=67s they are small ethnic groups in serbia, greece and bulgaria. plus take a look at this  digital roman map: http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-roman-empire-on-google-maps.html as you can see romans barely founded a few cities in transylvania and romania while they founded hundreds in gallia, iberia, and the adriatic, which means the idea of "romanization"  is even more retarded and a fairytale :), there were simply not enough romans in dacia to "romanize them" unlike in gaul, or iberia. i mean hell even the province of Britania had more roman cities than dacia and the celts living there before the arrival of anglo saxons were still not romanized.  so to me more logically, your language developed from vulgar latin towns and villages near the adriatic sea that werent invaded yet by the germanic tribes after the fall of rome ( https://brewminate.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/120118-70-Ancient-History-Rome-Roman-German.gif ) so your language was presserved and slowly trough either migration or settlement spreading you got to modern day romania around 1000 ad  and later in the 1300 ad the first kingdoms were formed wallachia, moldavia.  and if you know anything about the hungarian kingdom you should know that hungarians invited many people from neighbooring nations in the kingdom such as italians, germans, saxons, teutons and wlach, thats how you  got to transylvania :)