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Bi/Pan Romance Mods in Baldur's Gate 2
🔹️Eddard Silvershield ~ Review •
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The mangaka for Delicious in Dungeon, Ryoko Kui, did these beautiful redraw of all the Baldur's Gate portraits.
You can also use this mod to put them in your game.
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Lily Orchard and Imoen: Is the Mod Popular?
So unfortunately, Lily Orchard talks about the Imoen Romance mod in her 'Addressing Allegations' video (starting at 39:31, ending at 41:13) in regards to Courtney, whose made allegations against Lily you can hear for yourself here. Please heed the trigger warnings in both videos, though I won't be going in-depth here.
In this video, Lily describes that Gorion's Ward and Imoen are "the best of friends whose closeness borders on romantic at times...", (40:13) who discover being siblings in BGII. That isn't true but whatever, I'm not here to talk about the game itself. After going through her other sister OCs, she ends by going, "[I] talked about one of the most infamous and positively received mods for one of the most popular RPGs ever made," (41:05) end quote, so clearly this doesn't have anything to do with the real life allegations.
Two issues: One is that this is a deflection that does not address Courtney's allegations at all, or why she would find the fascination with those characters suspect. But the second is that this idea that the mod is popular and well-loved is just not true, and I'm going to spend time arguing against. If anything, how decidedly unpopular it is says that Lily is the one actively seeking out this content.
So why didn't Lily show proof about the mod's popularity in her debunking video? Maybe include a positive review? Well...
There was once a forum dedicated to the mod, populated only by people who'd want to play this kind of thing. So, if Lily is remembering this forum, that information is going to be skewed one way with any negative reviews chased out. It's long gone now, so I can't pull numbers. Instead, I'll be using general forum spaces that are probably the most popular with general BG fans, Beamdog and Reddit.
On the official EE mod release thread on the Beamdog forum... the total combination of posts from the author/coder and players only total 30 pages, with posts as recent as this month. 25 posts a page equals 750 posts altogether from across 10 years, though the most recent page is just 1 post, so 726. If we're SUPER charitable and say that's about 700 people playing and posting there throughout 10 years, not including mod authors, that's a minuscule audience. Especially when the original BGII game sold about 2 million copies, as well as Steam estimated selling about a million copies of the Steam release of the Enhanced Edition. Let's say the old deleted forum had about 1 thousand, maybe 2 thousand members, let's say there may be 10,000 downloads of the mod--that's still such a small percentage as to not matter. Definitely not enough to call it popular in the community.
Googling for lists of the best mods for BGII will bring up mods for the UI, general tweaks, difficulty, visuals, and portraits/voices. Especially portraits, people really like portrait mods. Sometimes the BG1 NPC Project is mentioned (which has it's own controversies, it's just probably the most talked about of any of these), but all of these will come long before a mention of NPC mods. So, NPC mods, especially romantic ones, are a niche of a niche.
On a few forums where I do see someone recommend the Imoen Romance as a "required mod"... most of the time they get a negative response.
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Just straight Googling Imoen Romance mod or mod reviews will bring up forums with pages in the single digits, with general discussion devoted to "Is this incest?" questions. It's impossible to go onto any forum post about the romance without at least one person weirded out by it's existence. So, there's at least a variety of opinions on the mod, it's not overwhelmingly positive.
But fine, that's general forums. What about BG mod reviewers? ONCE AGAIN, never ever reach out to these people.
Lily uses the Smoldering Mod Bar's review of Saerilith Romance to condemn that specific mod for its bad writing and taboo themes. It sure would be something if the mod reviewer also had a negative view on Imoen Romance...Oh wait:
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Okay, well, let's look at positive reviews instead. Lily has also quoted a Beamdog forum review to defend her views on the mod:
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Why didn't Lily link to the review in question? It would prove to everyone people love her favorite mod just as much as she does, right? Well, I can link it below:
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Oh, that's not quite as positive as she'd have you believe. Still liked it, but not quite to the level Lily does.
Here's another Beamdog mod reviewer making similar negative points, despite overall loving the mod:
(Source) Even reviewers who champion the mod as great can point out "Wow, this talks about incest quite a lot in a way it didn't even have to." And about it's other flaws too, things Lily never does.
I'm not saying NO ONE thinks the mod is good or that no one has ever mentioned it. I included positive reviews for a reason.
The issue is lying about how popular and well-liked the mod is in order to paint her sister as a crazy obsessed stalker whose just overreading into things. Especially saying this in a video about those allegations, and especially after saying the Gorion's Ward and Imoen are "romantic at times" all in the same breath. Putting ANY lie in this specific video is a serious stain on the credibility of Lily, thus it's important to call it out.
#it's out of my jurisdiction to make a comment on anything else. but putting weird imoen shit in the allegation video is not what i expected.#lily orchard#incest tw#sorry this one is super long to prove two points. it's hard to prove something like this#evidence
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Big RPG bundle including the EE versions of Baludur's Gate, both Pathfinder RPGs and Rogue Trader.
Pathfinder: Kingmaker has some pan romances and two poly options (one is dlc).
Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous has some pan romance (including an evil spider lady), one gay male option, but no poly option.
The EE version of Baldur's Gate add some pan romances (the original trilogy only has M/F and F/M romances, there are also bucket loads of romance NPC mods for the entire trilogy though).
Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear adds one gay male romance, however he will not appear in Baldur's Gate 2 (unless there's a mod that adds him).
Baldur's Gate 2 EE adds an evil lesbian romance.
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Tips for BG3 fans considering giving BG2 a try!
Disclaimers: I never played the enhanced or extended or whatever it's called - the Beamdog edition, that one - so I can't say what, if any, of this it might have changed. Also, while it continues to be my favourite game of all time, it's been like 5 years since my last BG2 playthrough, and I always ran it with a whole bunch of mods; I might get a few things mixed up, but I'll edit in corrections if I find that I have!
Much of this will apply to BG1 as well, of course, but not all. I am not really addressing BG1 because I've played through the whole thing maybe twice to my couple dozen BG2 games, and also because people who started a series at #3 don't get to be too picky about doing the first two out of order either :P
Right, so! I'm going to try not to spoil much here; these are just things to make your life easier and less annoying before you are blindsided by them and have to back up three hours to avoid the issue.
1) You might find yourself having to back up three hours to avoid some issue. BG3 has hopefully already thoroughly taught you this practice, but save early, save often, and keep your old saves until you're entirely done. This is a twenty year old game, I promise you have enough storage space.
2) We are playing under something like 2e (second edition) D&D rules here, not 5e. Armour class is good when it's low, not high. You don't get a set number of ability points at character creation, you roll dice and then you keep rolling for the next ten minutes until you get a nice, high points total to distribute as you prefer. Thac0 means "to hit armour class 0". Multi classing and dual classing are not at all the same thing, and will result in very different builds (also which one a character can do is determined by their race).
3) Games came with giant manuals back then; you are gonna need to either be doing some research, or just accepting that everything is going to be very confusing for awhile.
4) Go right ahead and crank that difficulty setting down a notch or two before you get started; after the first hour or two getting to grips with it, BG3 combat was basically just a nice, gentle romp through the park for me. I'm not saying this to brag (I don't ever play above core difficulty in BG2, myself), I'm saying this because you are going to find yourself getting very, very frustrated very fast if you don't understand that games back then had much different expectations when it came to how they handled some of the things that contributed to difficulty. Don't be meaner to yourself than you have to be! Challenge is fun; beating your head against a brick wall over and over is not.
5) The game is not going to do anything to stop you from going places you are not equipped or leveled to handle yet. If you are not making progress with some new area after a few tries and different approaches, consider going away and coming back later. It is also perfectly happy to spring surprise dragons on you. Or surprise "oh hey I just opened this door in the middle of the city with a certain common item in my inventory and now I appear to be in the second hardest fight of the entire game" encounters.
6) XP is distributed to all your party if it is main quest xp, and split among your party otherwise. If a character is not in your party at the time this happens, they don't get the xp, as a general rule. One or two specific exceptions aside, the game does not play catch-up for the characters you had leave your party temporarily; I would advise deciding who you want to have in your party fairly early on, then sticking to that so you're not wasting good xp on characters you're not keeping around.
7) Unfortunately, the previous is somewhat complicated by the fact that some companions have their own personal quests they want you to do for them. Quests with hidden timers that start running when you pick them up. Quests over which they will leave your party permanently, if you don't get around to them soon enough/don't listen when they give you a "do this basically now, or else" ultimatum. Quests you are going to be in no way capable of doing at the start of the game.**
8) Not all companions get along with one another; some of them cannot be in a party together without eventually fighting to the death as you're walking down the street one day. Pay attention to their alignment and don't go mixing good and evil characters in the same run. Neutral ones are significantly more chill.
9) There's a reputation mechanic which is kind of a morality tracker; good companions can also leave you if you get too low rep, and evil if you get too high.
10) When you first get out into the city proper, go check out the shops in this starting area; you can get a gem bag and a scroll case which will make inventory management much more pleasant. There are also bags of holding in the game - you know, those things our BG3 player characters kept taunting us about not having?
11) Companions can permanently die in a way that leaves them unable to be resurrected again due to the condition of the body. Be careful! Or just reload one of your twelve billion saves you've been carefully making, that works too.
12) Sometimes certain spells can have effects that might not occur to you in advance. Like, oh, say, disintegrating a dragon and only realising thirty hours later that you also disintegrated the crafting component required for making a really powerful weapon which it had in its inventory at the time.
13) You've noticed by now in BG3 that there are enemies who are resistant or vulnerable to certain types of damage, yeah? Bludgeoning, specific elements, etc. That is also going to be a thing here, but it's not always as immediately obvious what the problem is when you're failing to damage something. But in general, magical vs non-magical damage is a much bigger concern in BG2. There are many enemies that only take damage if your weapon is an enchanted one, and they might also require a certain minimum level of enchantment; +3 weapons or better, that sort of thing. Spells can affect this, too. Certain types of damage can cut through certain spell protections. Etc.
14) Hint: Melf's Minute Meteors count as +5 weapons, if you should ever find yourself unexpectedly in need of such a thing for some unknown reason I'm sure will never come up!
15) You can turn on a great many auto-pause options in the menu to get something significantly closer to the turn based combat you're used to. I use most of them; pausing whenever one of your characters finishes casting a spell (different spells take different amounts of time to finish casting and you can be interrupted before you manage doing so) is very useful so that you can immediately start them on their next spell without wasting time in combat.
16) If there's anything you really don't like, such as constantly being told to gather your party before venturing forth, there's almost certainly a mod for that.
That should do for now, have fun, enjoy the absolutely terrifying versions of vampires and illithid which will stalk your nightmares afterwards!
**It's Keldorn, I'm talking about Keldorn. I know he's amazing, but just leave his ass right the fuck where you found it unless you are feeling about ready to fight some of the toughest enemies in the game. Or you've bought that one specific item and don't mind a little cheese, because god knows I always use it if I'm planning on recruiting him.
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the beamdog switch releases are notoriously unstable 😔 i own them for every platform but switch bg pretty frequently crashes to home if you look at it funny. definitely runs better on pc 😭
Damn I ran into bugs with planescape torment on the switch but I was hoping bg would be okay :’( I just want to be comfy in bed while playing. Oh well, at least on pc I can use my custom sound sets and mods and stuff. Thanks for letting me know!!
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If anyone is going to play BG1EE then I highly recommend the mod, BGEE Classic Movies. They just are way more atmospheric than the moving drawings that Beamdog used to replace then, in my opinion.
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While Beamdog never released an Icewind Dale II Enhanced Edition due to not having the source code, there's a fanmade Enhanced Edition mod. Would save files from IWDEE be able to be imported to the IWDIIEE mod?
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#vg: baldur's gate 2#series: baldur's gate#developer: bioware#type: mods#mods: baldur's gate 2#mods: bioware
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maybe im just woke gay zoomerbrained etc whatever but i kinda like a couple of the companions beamdog added to the enhanced edition of bg1 and i dont get why people complained about them so much beyond like theyre a new thing and new thing bad like to the point that people mod them out like sure even as a first-time player i can tell they stand out a bit but theyre completely optional....... just keep walking luv x
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Sapphic Romance Mods in Baldur's Gate 2
🔸️Juniper ~ Review
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⭐ ⏩⏩⏩️ DOWNLOAD MOD - LINK 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Get even more from Planescape: Torment with this great P:T mods guide by Johnny Walker aka ThunderPeel #2 darkpadawan · The Inner World - Duke Nukem Manhattan Project - Red Faction · Amnesia: Justine - Darkness Within 1 y 2 - The Seven Sisters -. › pregunta › como-puedo-instalar-mods-en-la-versio. Así, GOG ha ido a los problemas de la liberación de Planescape: Tormento para OS X gracias a las maravillas de VINO. gaming planescape-torment. Beamdog, you guys should really listen and just make your own official version of Unfinished Business and make it OPTIONAL so people can choose which. What you need: Original Game - If you don`t have it, you can grab it for $ from This one comes perfectly prepared for modding. Por cierto, que hay un mod para este juego (bueno y para el Badur y todos los del motor Infinity) que te deja jugarlo en alta resolución y en pantalla ancha. Y agradecer a todos los mienbros de OBLISAN TEAM al cual pertenezco por invertir tanto de su tiempo en realizar esos increibles mods que son ya parte de nuestra. Planescape: Torment · Mods · Guía para novatos. Lo tienes disponible en GOG. Mods recomendables solo uno, el de cambiar la resolucion, y si no quieres jugarlo en ingles, la traduccion. Análisis de Planescape Torment Actualmente, Planescape Torment necesita de mods para ser jugado con comodidad. GOG lanza una oferta de D&D loquísima.
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I have seen so many awful Baldur's Gate romances that I have come around on Anomen being a prat (better with mods!) as being preferable to modding in dude romance options, like holy god. The familiar evil has become preferable. There's just always something weird in there. Valygar goes "the writer's fetish" insane in the Underdark, Haer'Dalis is a designated side-piece. Kelsey's whiny but forgettable. Solaufein's OP as hell and won't shut the fuck up about random IRL poetry. Keldorn freaks out when your sister hits on him because of the age difference and you have to get rid of his wife for it, so I'm GONNA SAY I don't think his mod will be any better. There's also a Yoshimo romance where he dies if you want even more trauma for the protagonist. There's one for Edwin, and like... why. Every time I consider a mod, I have flashbacks to another one and go "maybe not." I'm considering Mazzy, but her mod does a lot of stuff with morals and I'd like to be able to romance someone who isn't going to try to kill me if I do thief things.
As far as Beamdog goes, all their characters get abruptly worse in BG2 to the point where I generally loathe them. Rasaad in particular breaks up with you because he inexplicably thinks you did the crime you're framed for. Dorn decides he's a cartoon. And Neera is just physically painful.
If you're wondering why there's no women on this list other than Neera and Mazzy, then I want to introduce you to Chloe and Imoen and Saerileth and the wide wide world of "The male options may be shit, but the female options tend to scar your fucking soul."
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If you’ve followed this blog for any length of time you probably know how much I love Baldur’s Gate by now.
Fanatical has the entire EE bundle for 80% off (it’s steam keys).
Baldur’s Gate Enhanced Edition (includes Tales of the Sword Coast)
Baldur’s Gate 2: Enhanced Edition (includes Throne of Bhaal)
Baldur’s Gate: Siege of Dragonspear
Baldur’s Gate EE Soundtrack
Baldur’s Gate 2 EE Soundtrack
Baldur’s Gate: Siege of Dragonspear Soundtrack
Faces of Good and Evil DLC (custom portraits)
Fanatical is a fully licensed site, not a “grey market” reseller (Beamdog even retweeted this sale on their official twitter).
The EE versions of the games add several new party members and romance options (IIRC including gay, lesbian, and bisexual love interests) and the newer versions of the Big World Setup tool are 100% compatible with the entire series, so there are many more options that can be modded in.
Current Big World Setup Build (I don’t recommend trying to mod the game unless you’ve played it several times first though.)
#Baldur's Gate#Bioware#Beamdog#Black Isle#Dungeons and Dragons#ask me about Baldur's Gate mods sometime#I could gush about how important Solafein Mod is
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yeah love the flowers/background art in bg1 especially. Re: the Enhanced Edition. Part of me thinks you can just watch other people's lets plays on youtube for the parts you missed. part of me WANTS you to buy those games, for a number of reasons, not least of which is that the Enhanced Editions have a whole separate expansion that explains what happens between BG1 and 2. Otherwise the transition is kinda....abrupt.
The art aged extremely well. I especially like the natural landscapes, as well. And some of the interiors look particularly cosy.
I admit I’ve been thinking about it here and there. The Enhanced Edition, I mean. I guess I’m just not sure what to think of Beamdog because they mostly seem to make remasters of old games that they didn’t make... and then suddenly Siege of Dragonspear? I don’t know exactly why but it makes me feel kind of weird about them. But in the end I suppose the most important thing is whether the expansion is good and the “enhancements” make the game better. The thing is that I’m happy with the graphics as they are and I’m not entirely sure that I like what they did with it. I don’t have enough knowledge to say how it changed other elements of the game. Which is probably why I can’t decide. Although the dialogues seem to be easier to read and it’s true that I had to increase the game’s window size with a mod because playing in a tiny box was effectively driving me crazy.
I’d be happy to hear some opinions, though.
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On a related note to my last rant: I just remembered the time I was looking for a mod for mount and blade warband that made the auto-resolve battle button actually function instead of very consistently costing you 20 to 30 times as many casualties as the actual battle would have.
I found a thread of someone else asking the same question, and being met with fuckwits saying “just play every battle noob”, as though m&b doesn't have like 1000 near identical and extremely tedious battles you have to play to finish a campaign. Someone even said “Just start the battle and tell your men to charge, then wait like 3 minutes. I do.”
Imagine thinking that not only should you be forced to wait 3 minutes for every single battle when the game GIVES you an auto resolve button that just doesn't work, but that everyone else should have to as well.
Seriously, you don't get to decide how other people enjoy video games, nobody does, and that includes the developers. Anyway I just modded the game myself because fuck that.
Every singleplayer game should have extensive and powerful cheat codes, and the only argument against this hinges on people viewing personal experiences as some bizarre contest they have to “win”.
And this doesn't even touch on cheats or “story” difficulty modes as an accessibility feature, which is a damn fine concept. The Baldur's Gate enhanced editions did this and it was fucking excellent. Big respect for Beamdog on that front.
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