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Oh ok!

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GOD DAMN WHAT AN EPISODE HUH..

100% going to assume that the war with Redd and Clown is both an in world thing and also a lifesteal reference LOL

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after watching ep 3, I am fairly confident that Whitepine is about the consequences on denial, forcefully trying to move on, being so against change because of the comfort of the same routine you've grown accustomed to. How long will you ignore the itching ache, clawing at the back of your mind until you finally admit that Mysty's dead? You can't ignore her forever you know? forever try to ignore the feeling that someone is gone forever yet their traces are still left the Hemlocke estate?

You can't ignore the body that's still warm.

Whitepine is about grief and interpersonal relationships, can anybody hear me?

also sidenote, I FUCKING KNEWWWW IT!!!! SERAPTOR HAS ISSUES I CHEERED SOO LOUD !!!

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Something I don't see commented on a lot is how the detective seems expressingly more suspicious of the maids than the butlers? When they were leaving the police station, one of the maids was saying how scary and intense the detective is (iirc) and a butler responds "Oh, he wasn't that bad to me?"

The Emberton wire also has some elements of misogyny in it, so I wouldn't be surprised if the detective was a misogynist, and just had it in his head from the jump that it *had* to be one of the maids, and Ivory happens to be the most suspicious (this is not accusing any of the actors of being misogynists, but suggesting that one of the characters is maybe that way, especially with the implied time period. Which, I could go on a ramble about how good the historical part of Whitepine is)

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Babe wake up, new Emberton Wire article just dropped

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Hey what if The House is alive. And The House is hungry

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girls... Ivory and Pyroscythe narrative foils... Girls..... Ivory and Pyroscythe Parallels. Girls....

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This is literally just a hunch I have that has no evidence for. I think that the forest is going to represent trauma, specifically Ivory’s and Pyro’s. Ivory clearly has something in her past that has deeply beat submission into her, and from Pyro’s nightmares, vomiting (which I actually think is from emotional stress rather than sickness), and his long staring into the forest, something is clearly deeply troubling him as well. The forest is menacing, large and looming at the periphery at all times. It’s almost alluring, much like how trauma can linger in the back of your mind, asking you to stare into its vastness and get lost in the memories. Idk, maybe I’m just looking into smth that is going to have a much more literal meaning as the series goes on.

There’s definitely been *something* going on in the forest. We get repeated shots of it, and it is only ever welcoming and sunny once.

And that scene is a minute or two prior to Mysti’s imminent death.

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Ive talked about this before in lore chat in ivory's discord server, but I don't think this is a murder mystery. I think either something followed ivory into the mansion, or somethingwas waiting for her.

Now to get it out of the way, I am so so on if the "lore" of dimension hopper ivory is connected. With her forgetting to eat, odd connection to the spruce forest, and popping up on the streets unclothed, I thought it was connected at first.

However, after having lore ppl on discord "spam "TRAUMA" at me enough times I'm unconfident.

I also don't think it's Ebony, seeing as she is the better half of the pair and may not even be cannon.

Anyway, me rambles :p

(Hi!! So I’m actually pretty new to Ivory’s side of the fandom, but I’m super curious about this Ebony + dimension hopper stuff if you have a proper way to explain it!!)

Ooh, I *love* the idea of her being followed..that’s so fun, that she potentially brought the danger without meaning to. Id love to hear more on thatttt!!!

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save me women who are omens and manifestations of doom (ivory being a vessel of the forest)

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Love how literally everyone agrees something's Wrong with WP!Pyro

anyways, not really a theory, I guess an anit-theory.

I'm almost 100% sure Clown did not commit the murder. Its for doyalist reasons not watsonian ones so idk if this counts as cheating. Anyways, he just got done playing a mastermind evil villain in KSMP so I don't think they'd do the same here. Plus while it is ClownPierce Mr. Deadliest Minecraft Player *vine boom sound effect* having him be the murderer would be too predictable. Heck we don't even know if WP!Clown has any combat ability. I do think they're gonna use his reputation as a misdirect though.

Don't get me wrong he probably knows more than he lets on, but I doubt it has to do with the murder.

Or maybe I'm overthinking this, anyways, have a nice day!

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See I don’t suspect Pyro purely because I think he had some sort of bond with Mysti. Especially with how he reacted to her death was very telling, but maybe some people see it as an exaggeration. Also yeah CLOWn of all people is not about to be a villain considering his rep lol!!

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Not really a theoooryy more a poorly constructed ramble but but but!! The piano in the house is implied to be played by the mother and music so far in this series has been non diegetic sound, meaning the piano is the first music from inside the world of the series, and after the piano is played someone is murdered,,,

So maybe the piano being played foreshadows the murders? Maybe the mother played it before whatever happened to her? Anyway I claim a 🍄 I will the shroom anon on every mcyt blog that exists because I am the shrooms.

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The foreshadowing as far as we know is already excellent in Whitepine, and this is very possible!!

Especially, since we didn’t even get to hear Ivory play. The first note was cut off, just like Mysti’s life was abruptly over. Maybe that cut off note even represented Mysti’s likely cut off screams, before her throat was sliced as shown in the cinematic scene of their body.

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I have a mini theory, i think whoever did the muder is part of the Hemlocke family, or is from the family and knows who did it (for example if the murderer is a creature from the forest) and is trying to put the blame on ivory. Becase from the recent town artircle especulating the blame is on the staff+ how much we see the diference of the family and their workers and the general class elements is easy to say it could be one of the sinplings or the dad

And in the interrogation scene where the detectives seen surprised to know that ivory had been there for less than a week, its strange to me that the Hemlockes woulnt give the basic info about the people who work there, and is clear that the police thinks ivory is suspicious. Which inst hard, i mean she dosent apear to have family, a place to go or people to defend her besides maybe seraptor and they could say she did it to have a heir position as assistant....althougth i dint came up with a reason for wanting to "protect" for a lack of a better word a supposed creature from the forest.

I have seen some people (cough 🐀 anon) accuse Pyro, but out of anyone in the family, he seems the least likely. The entire episode he was devestated by her death, and seemed to genuinely care for her.

I can see Zombie having hired someone to get rid of her though for whatever reason.

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Hi chat.

I’m normal. About everything. No idea what you mean that I’m relating to Ivory ahahahhahahahaha. (SERAPTER I LOVE YOU)

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I know I'm the "vampire theory guy" but I honestly am starting to doubt that a normal person could have pulled off the murder. its just unlikely at this point.

My reason for thinking so is simple, Mysti was in full uniform, and Pyro was fully dressed. Let me explain. According to Seraptor its' the maids' job to make sure the Hemlocks clothes are laid out and whatnot, (while ep 1 did show that Pyro is capable of doing it himself, Mysti was surprised he was up, so its not a common occurrence) and Seraptor also says that the Hemlocks usually wake up around 10:00 at the earliest. Right before Mysti is discovered, all of the others are in the kitchen, presumably preparing lunch given when the Hemlocks wake up. Therefore Mysti would have been found around 12:00pm.

That timeline does not line up for a normal person. They'd need to: Attend to whichever family member they're responsible for, Then murder Mysti, then wash or dispose of their clothes, then change, all without someone noticing they're gone.

Plus, according to the newspaper in the trailer, Mysti was stabbed so brutally certain parts of her body were severed. Where the hell is the blood? there should be a heck of a lot more if that was the case. Not to mention, who would go through the trouble of moving her body if it was in pieces.

However, the vampire theory accounts for this by limiting how much blood would spill, because the vampire would have drunk it all.

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I’d like to note - It very much seems like someone almost tried to sever Mysti’s head if you look at the back of their neck. It’s covered in blood, as if they had been sawing through before realizing they were running out of time before they got caught.

Also, from what I can tell, it seems like we know who found Mysti’s body. Bit, guessing by the way she was being interrogated by the police. I wonder if that’s why Clown told him to ride in the car, knowing they’d be grilled pretty hard.

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to my knowledge, ivory has never played a character who isn't violent and at least a bit morally fucked up (whether she's an anti-hero or a villain). i think we are going to see a darker side to wp!ivory as the series progresses.

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I 100% agree -

Whitepine in general seems like it’s going down a dark path, straight from the beginning. Seeing a mutilated body isn’t exactly ‘cheerful’ vibes for the start of a career as a maid!

I really, really hope we do see a disconnect from the reality of death, of how final it is, from Ivory though. I think it would be interesting!