#mlb ephemeral spoilers

[geekgirles]

Y'know what? I think I'd prefer it, actually.

[ladymiraclewings]

Same place, different scenario leading to the wish

[wield-the-mighty-pen]

I am very excited for the London Special, but I just have to say, based on what I've seen from the promo stuff, this special may have the power to completely nullify the plot of Ephemeral.

From what I can tell... it looks like Marinette is going to be using the rabbit miraculous to go back in time to prevent someone from taking the miraculous from her and... making a wish? (maybe? not totally sure), if that's true... then what was the point of Ephemeral?

Don't get me wrong, I love this episode, but at least half of the plot doesn't make sense within the context of them using the Rabbit in the special.

Using the Rabbit to prevent the wish being made, to prevent the identities being shared, is objectively, the better, the simpler solution.

One could argue, they only undid the reveal in Chat Blanc with the Rabbit, BECAUSE there was no wish to contend with.

It could be argued that maybe the Rabbit can't undo the wish, that though one can go through time and fix things, the wish can't do that. If the special proves this wrong... then why did they use the snake?

Why did Luka have to be there? Why did they have to have the whole plan set in place? Why couldn't they have utilized Alix to get Chat Noir's identity? And why did the snake miraculous have to be the one to fix everything?

[spotted-kittens]

I was rewatching Ephemeral and the implications of the fact that, to Marinette, the world has now nearly ended twice over revealed identities broke into my room and shot me in the face.

Because this show doesn't ever stop being horrible to Chatdrien.

I had to vent, so I wrote this in 20 minutes.

Takes place at the end of Ephemeral, in between when Marinette lands on her balcony and speaks to Su-Han.

(Read on AO3 or under the cut)

Cosmo Bug touched down more heavily than normal but hardly noticed. Her thoughts were a frantic, swirling mess. She powered down and sank down shakily to the rooftop she had landed on, trying to slow her panicked breathing. She had left Chat Noir quickly after their mission ended, and now she needed to think.

Sass had said… he said he thought… Shadowmoth…their miraculous…

They had lost.

But they had fixed it, somehow.

They had not only fixed the effects of Sass using his power, they had also prevented the wish from being made. The world was no longer ending, so they must have stopped Shadowmoth.

How?

They must have changed something. It was crucial that Ladybug understand this, so that she could prevent it from happening again.

But what did they change? What did they change that was so relevant to Shadowmoth and the miraculous?

What would they have done differently had Sass not intervened?

It hit her so suddenly she felt her head spin. She had been trying to learn Chat Noir's identity and had stopped when time had literally blown up. That's what she would have otherwise done.

It had to be it.

Something had happened because someone knew Chat Noir's identity, her or the Celestial Guardian or Viperion or…

Nobody could know.

Right now, both Alya and the Celestial Guardian knew her identity, but, as far as she knew, no one knew Chat Noir's in this timeline.

Ladybug realized she was shaking.

After Bunnyx came to fetch her to erase the timeline where Chat Blanc had happened, she had been so obsessed with the fact she had fixed it by protecting her identity that she had never stopped to consider her partner’s.

But then she had told Alya, and the world hadn't ended again. So even if the problem was her identity, the origin of the problem clearly was not Alya.

But what if the problem was not her identity but Chat's? What would this mean?

This was twice now the world had nearly ended over uncovered identities, but whose identity?

Her earrings beeped and her transformation came undone. She automatically put her hands out and let Tikki fall into them.

“Tikki…” she rasped, voice wavering. ”No one must ever find out who Chat is. I need to tell him.”

Tikki's face was a mask of concern, but her voice was a touch too hard to match. “Tell him what? You already tell him daily how important secret identities are. He already knows you shared your identity with someone, are you going to tell him he can't but you can? In so many words?”

Marinette's face crumbled further. “Then what should I do?”

Tikki looked down sadly and Marinette knew what she was going to say.

Nothing.

(Yes, I know Luka knows Chat's identity at this point, but Marinette doesn't know that.)

[uptoolateart]

Back when Ephemeral first aired, and Gabriel unified the miraculous, the kwamis said, 'It's happening again....'

That one line inspired a whole complex backstory and universe for my Breaking Free fic series...and then in Collusion we had this from Gabriel...and it just convinces me even more that maybe they've been living out this story over and over and over again and not even know it...because if you did remake reality, would anyone else be aware of it? Would YOU remember??

Please no post-Collusion spoilers in comments :)

[lightningstorm003]

I DID NOT NEED TO SEE THIS

Maybe there was another reason why she hesitated...

[speedyowl152]

Mlb series 5 finale spoilers //

Feel like the whole time through miraculous the message was don't make the wish actually because the price won't be worth it and then they turn around and do that???? And Nathalie's still alive??? And everyone remembers monarch despite that talk about the universe being unwritten in ephemeral and also why is no one questioning why Emilie is here suddenly. I'm so. Gah. Whats the moral of the story, its okay to go mad in search of power so long as you make sure you're the only one to suffer for it. I thought this was gonna be one of the first animated kids shows to cover such serious topics of life threatening illness and making one of the main characters an orphan during the peak of the show rather than being one since the beginning and they fucking? Just made it all better? I know it can't be too dark because it's a kids show but what happened to consequences for your actions? What happened to balance??? Whos taken nathalies place of eternal sleep. Is no one ever gonna give adrien a heads up about the significance of those rings.

Lila is the only bitch I respect I can't believe they made adrien spend the whole episode rocking back and forth in his sensory deprivation chamber from trauma and Felix! Bruh! Was he spending the episode asking mummy to make him hot chocolate while he tried to track the location of the deprivation chamber. What the heck is in this for tomoe??

[dragonslayer-secretagent-a]

One of the funniest thing of the episode was when Chat Noir told her he's Adrien Agreste and Ladybug outright laughed at him..like ladybug same..😂But when she saw him,she totally forgot about the plan.

But it was cute when they were together..be it for the short time..Look at how happy and in love Adrien was...

[klatchshy]

So at literally any time Gabriel could create a supervillain whose power is to speed up time and use it to make ladybug and chat noir detransform super fast but he just doesn’t?? Ok I guess.

[thepigeonsopinion]

The 100th episode came out...

So, the episode "Ephemeral" came out (and when I just thought this would be a normal, relaxing weekend). Now, before I really dive into this whole chaos that is the episode, I want to clear up some stuff for some people that saw my latest post **cough cough**mainly the one that commented on me not understanding the episode**cough cough**. The latest post that I did about the second trailer of "Ephemeral" was solely based on my thoughts on the trailer, and I repeat the TRAILER of the episode, not the episode itself. Now, THIS post is about the episode and my opinions on the EPISODE not the trailers or anything, if anything I will infer some stuff that I said in my others post to show that some of my theories were wrong or that some stuff that wasn't shown in the trailers has been cleared up in the episode. NOW, that has been cleared up, let's actually dive into the episode, shall we? :).

Okay, so I was contemplating on whether or not I should do the usual "unnecessarily detailed summary or synopsis of the episode" that I usually do, but I decided to just skip it today because one: I’m really sleep deprived, and two: I can probably guess that most of the fandom has already seen the episode.

So! (after a 2 hour nap...)Let's just dive in! (because I can't express how much this episode pissed me off.)

Warning: Spoiler to the episode "Ephemeral"

(Also, as always I am re watching the episode as I type this so I might have some unnecessary details. Anyway! Let's get into it!)

First things, first, how many scenes or reminders have we gotten since this whole thing started? I mean, even in the first season we got a frickin picture of Emilie, which was already hint that whatever Gabriel is doing it's for her, or, as he says, his "family". At this point of the show, I believe this is just to give him a sense of calm mind or at the least a reminder of why he is even doing this in the first place (because I believe he's starting to go a 'little' insane using those two miraculous over and over again.)

Okay, so is Bob Roth broke now? I mean, we knew he had obsession with money, but shouldn't he have at least 'enough' money to keep him satisfied and not crying about the coin that just fell into the sewers? (Btw I know this just a scene to fill in the empty void of this episode, but I just wanted to point it out :p).

Ummm, does anyone see that 'subtle' hit that Gabriel is controlling Adrien with his ring? Legit, when Adrien is starting to disagree with him because he wants to leave and have Adrien take over instead he touches his ring, as if he's a sentimonster that he can control to do as he says. We'll just have to wait until it's actually established, I guess.

Let's talk about Bob Roth's akuma form! Is his whole body the safe or is the safe just the outer shell and he's the coins? Whatever it is, this akuma form is still very confusing, and what is the akumatized object in the first place anyway? (I have so many questions already :0)

Okay, let's talk about the fight scene. First of all, why the heck does ladybug need every temporary hero to help her defeat this one akuma. I mean, I get the need of Viperion, Pegasus, maybe Vespera, maybe Polymouse, and maybe Carapace. But the others I don't really see a need for them in this specific battle. Maybe they had a bigger role in the battle before the exact scene we see, but I don't really know. I'm also bring up a fact that some other people have also brought up. The fact that they don't need Chat Noir's cataclysm. If they played their cards right they would have been able to defeat the akuma a much more easier and much more faster than they actually did. Because as we see, Purple Tigress is present during the battle so with her power of Collision and Pegasus power of Voyage they could easily defeat the akuma. (though I'm not going to complain with the use of Viperion tbh (¬3¬)). But all in all, I do think that they totally could've use the temporary heroes differently in this one. (Also, not to mention the amount of combination that Viperion had to do though. :0)

Wait a second his akumatized object was a giant ass coin. Convenient, I guess. Also, I'm just going to infer that his body is the coins now.

We love that we get to see Luka play a much bigger role in this episode then any other episode in the series already, just by seeing him witness the amount of stress and pressure that is put on Ladybug/Marinette (since he knows now).

Okay, I know Su-han is putting a lot of stress on Ladybug right now, but he do got a point though. Ladybug used 9 miraculous to defeat one akuma, NINE miraculous. And I know a lot of people would say, "Adrien had no choice he was just trying to obey his father!", and "He wouldn't be able to escape that big audience anyway!", but look at it this way through Su-han's eyes it looks as if that Chat Noir is neglecting his duties and Ladybug has to deal with the consequences of his mistake. And I also can already see that a lot of people saying, "Yeah, but this wouldn't have happened if they knew each other's identities," but, again here's the thing them knowing each other's identities can lead to life threatening situations, as seen later on in the episode so you can also understand where Ladybug is coming from. Anyway, all I'm saying that is no one, in my opinion, is in the wrong here in this situation and as I have said earlier Ladybug could have done this battle differently without using the nine miraculous that she did.

AnYwAy! Back to the episode! I love how Luka is also so done with this conversation or more so lecture between Su-han and Ladybug. Like, you can see it in his face, he's so done with it already XD. Also, the way that Su-han skips/hops out of the scene is so freaking hilarious! Is it just me, or are the creators just getting lazy at doing the transformations at this point?

MY LUKANETTE HEAAAAARTTT!! I know that this whole scene is supposed to be professional and all, but like you can't tell me that this scene doesn't perfectly demonstrate how good they understand and work with each other. I mean, COME ON IT'S TOO CUTE! (Also is sass eating tofu?) Not to mention, HOW CUTE LUKA IS THIS ENTIRE EPISODEEEEEEEE!!!!!

To be honest, I legit almost forgot that Luka already knows Chat Noir identity because of "Wishmaker". This just tells us how good Luka is at keeping a secret (¬‿¬). Not to mention, how in sync they are though and how easy they understand each other unlike some people, I'm saying names...

Anywho! Continuing on, looking at Viperion's face listening to this conversation shows how very worried he says, and I love that small detail about him. Also the fact that Ladybug can't take seriously the fact that Chat Noir is Adrien and when she does see for herself that he is Adrien she can't comprehend the fact, that she frozen is shock and forgets the mission is just a "wow, didn't see that coming" moment for me tbh. Not to mention, that Adrien is rubbing in the fact that he has been waiting for this moment his whole time he has had the miraculous and has met her, he's kinda going overboard in my opinion.

Look at that! Marinette is asking the same question I had! On whether or Chat Noir is the real Adrien or is Adrien someone different entierly? (also, Tikki not helping by rubbing in the fact that she has a crush on AdRiEn and now that we know that he's Chat Noir, we know that he's in love with Ladybug, and that kinda means that Adrien is in love with Marinette, who is Ladybug) ((damn this just keeps getting more complicated by the day)) Yes, Marinette has learned her lesson from telling Alya she is Ladybug.

Noting the fact, that when Marinette finds out Adrien is Chat Noir she can't stop seeing him AS Chat Noir, also that kinda nerves me, just a bit. Not to mention, the fact that Luka was the only one to notice that Marinette is bothered by something is another quality that I love about him :). Also, we just caught confirmation that Luka is indeed still inlove with Marinette and that he loves even more now, but he is still actively trying to help her find herself, whether or not it's about her love life. (sad fan moments ｡ﾟ(ﾟ´Д`ﾟ)ﾟ｡). Also, this the one time that I really hate Luka giving advice to Marinette, wait scratch that maybe the second moment (I just remembered the time he told her to go after Adrien in "Frozer"). It's the fact that upon hearing Luka's advice does she start to see him differently, that makes me unbelievably sad because my ship...｡ﾟ(ﾟ´Д`ﾟ)ﾟ｡(If it wasn't obvious I'm a lukanette stan)

Now, I just want to mention this once, because I know that if I say this the Adrinette shippers will track me down and probably murder me on the spot, but here goes nothing. Let's just notice the fact that Adrien says that he can't believe the fact that one of his bestfriend's is his "one true love"....BESTFRIEND. Here it is, the confirmation Adrien did NOT see Marinette as anything BUT a FRIEND! Even it took Marinette a couple of days to get her feelings sorted out, but NoOoOo Adrien already knows that his bestfriend being his love interest is valid enough to establish your in love with said person. (hehehe this pisses me off a little if you can't tell) Now, I'm gonna end that there before anyone comes to murder me.

Not them acting lovey dovey after one day of knowing each other's identities (or at least for Adrien it's one day). Also, what the heck did he put in that frickin note? I'm curious now.

So, it only takes one word, ONE WORD for him to figure out that Adrien is Chat Noir. I SWEAR TO GOSH THIS SHOW JUST LOVES TO PISS ME OFF BY NOT MAKING SENSE! Not to mention, Gabriel has no remorse in what he is doing to his son to just get his miraculous. And I thought he was trying to be a good father. PFFT who am I kidding, this dude was barely even trying.

This is the fourth time that the number 100 has come up, the FOURTH time. I think they're shoving the fact that it's the 100th episode a little to much.

AND AGAIN, we see Gabriel using the ring that he is wearing, which is supposedly a family heirloom to control Adrien into subduing into his commands. I mean, at this point what else are we supposed to believe, it's right there, Gabriel is clearly controlling Adrien, and with that we can easily infer that he is a sentimonster. All we need is canon confirmation, but are we going to get that? Probably not.

Not Luka being the one that Marinette contacts instead of Alya (¬‿¬). Also the fact that he immediately jumps into action and legit runs and bikes all the way to her home. I'm just like AWWWHHHHH. LUKA IS THE REAL MVP OF THE SHOW!! (Meanwhile, Shadowmoth throwing a legit child like, four feet away, after getting the miraculous) The way that Sass says "My master!" with his arms out, just shows how proud he is and that just melts my heart.（〜^∇^ )〜 Not to mention, the fact that all the kwamis are already comfortable with him, then again they're in a dire sitiuation, but still T3T. Though, we also got a glimpse of what the other Ladybug holders look liked before so that was a cool treat, I guess.

You know, I just got the irony that this episode came out during day light savings and they to bring everything back to normal they have to reset the time, clever, I guess. The transformation sequence was cool, but it was pretty short, to be honest, so I wasn't really impressed by it.

After they fix the time and everything goes back to normal and Marinette has a final talk with Su-han the episode ends. But wait a second, did Ladybug retrieve Luka's miraculous? Looks like we'll never know....*ominous ghost music*

AnYwAy! All in all, this episode was interesting and very amusing to watch if I'm going to be honest. BUT I was very pissed off during the episode because of some of the scene. Though, Luka being the MVP really balanced everything out. Now, don't get me wrong this is not going to be one of my favorite episodes, but it's also not going to go into my least favorite episodes (mainly because of the involvement of Luka). So this episode probably will land in the middle of my list.

Anyway! that is the end of this rant, I hope everyone has a great rest of their day or morning(?) and always remeber...

But that's just my opinion (・ε・)

(Btw I'll be doing my rant on the latest trailer that came out for the "Gabriel Agreste" episode later tonight ((or morining really)) Man, it seems like the creators are releasing these trailers and episodes like hotcakes.)

[a-girl-of-few-words]

So, if the kwamis knew what was going on... Does that mean the world has already been rewritten and the only ones that know about it are them?

[thegreatestidk]

Peacock miraculous is controlling Adrien?

MAJOR EPHEMERAL TRAILER SPOILERS

Okay so I saw a post around here somewhere that basically pointed out that the shape of Adrien’s akumatization shape didn’t really match the usual hawkmoth butterfly shape. HOWEVER I think it does seem to kinda match the akumatization shape of the the peacock miraculous, which we saw was used on hawkmoth during the season 2 finale. I’m pretty sure the shadowmoth akumitzation shape is kind of just a more complicated butterfly, so...??? 

[wield-the-mighty-pen]

How we all thought that Adrinette was going to be the couple that is on the phone for hours just to decide who should hang up

I guess we were wrong...

[cesairebug]

new on miraculous ladybug: chat noir tells ladybug that he’s adrien agreste (real)

[uptoolateart]

Crucially, Transmission was the first time Gabriel tried to akumatise Adrien without even knowing he's Cat Noir.