so like, what if harrow hadn’t lied to mercy about her age?
like. i’ve assumed (and seen other people assuming) mercy was asking bc she thought harrow might be gideon (i.e. the result of dios apate major), but alecto told harrow to lie about her age, and she did, and mercy left, disgusted by the idea of a baby lyctor but believing harrow really was just harrow
…but (aside from the fact that gideon is older than harrow and so the timing shouldn’t quite work out, bc i can imagine mercy having potential explanations for that) what was mercy asking for? was it just curiosity/a hope of getting answers? or did she have an actual plan (or at least the beginning of one) for the moments when she wondered if dios apate major hadn't quite completely failed yet after all? in either case, why would alecto want mercy convinced it wasn't true?
or, on the other hand, something i honestly hadn't thought about until i started writing this post and had to stop and check myself: is that even why mercy asked? was that what she thought, or did she have some completely different reason to want to know harrow's age, with a correspondingly completely different reason alecto thought harrow needed to lie?
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i was having a chuckle to myself last night about Gristol, and how his plans are basically:
Restore Ford Cruller's memory
Find Maligula
???
Profit
but then... of course they are, right? this is Gristol we're talking about. Fatherland Follies drives home again and again that he's still operating on a child's logic, a warped and reductive version of the world that he never bothered to grow out of. both of his memory vaults center on the images of his childhood, this idealized version of the past that he clings to no matter what. and that's still how he remembers Maligula, too - as this saviour figure, who rushes in to help him when he's in trouble.
[ID: Two slides from Gristol's memory vault, Glory to Grulovia! Left: Gristol clings to Maligula's back as she summons waves to sweep away his assailants. Right: Gristol and Maligula waving from a balcony as the people cheer. Gzar Theodore brandishes a dagger in the background.]
like so much else, Maligula represents a return to this idyllic childhood - to the peace and simplicity of his youth, when he was free from worries and responsibilities. in his mind, he doesn't need to make any further plans - once Maligula's back, everything will go back to normal. Maligula will make everything better.
...is what i thought, but then i remembered this line:
[Screenshot source. ID: Gristol, in Truman's body, bows on his hands and knees in front of the newly-awaked Maligula. The caption reads: "Yes, High Priestess! I am here to correct the mistakes made by my father!"]
and that's kind of interesting, right?
to be clear: this happens directly after Maligula sees Helmut-in-Gristol's-body, and recognises him. her line before this is:
"Little Gzesaravich! Have you come to pay for your father's sins?"
my first thought was that Gristol hadn't expected to still be in Truman's body by the time he managed to find Maligula, and this was him trying to placate her and buy some time until he could explain the situation. but watching the cutscene back, that's clearly not what's happening here. Gristol is answering as himself, and his response of throwing himself to his knees before her is, as far as i can tell, genuine.
so what is going on here?
in Fatherland Follies, there's this line in the ride narration that stuck out to me:
"Why didn't the Gzar help Maligula in her time of need? No one knows, but historians agree - it is Gzar Theodore's biggest failure."
other lines mention Gzar Theodore's "mistake", and it's wording Gristol himself echoes in the screencap above. evidently, he believes that his father abandoned Maligula, leaving her to her fate at the hands of the Psychonauts, and it was that mistake that lead to them being driven out of the country - that mistake which he seeks to correct. maybe he even feels like he has a debt to repay to her for his family turning their backs on her all those years ago.
the 'High Priestess' thing, though - that's kinda weird, and threw me for a loop the first time i played the game. it took me until my second playthrough to connect the dots, and remember how the room in the Lady Luctopus - Gristol's room - was full of Delugionist scribblings and symbols.
[Screenshot source. ID: left, the walls of the hidden backroom in Gristol's hotel suite, covered in scrawlings of eyeballs and Maligula's name. Right, the pinboard from the hidden backroom. On its surface are photographs and newspaper clippings connected by pieces of string.]
i mean, look at this stuff! he had a whole conspiracy board and everything!
we learn very little about the Delugionists and their beliefs as a whole during the game, but i think drawing the connection here suggests two important things. one: that Gristol was in deep with this stuff. i don't know how he linked up with them - maybe via old family connections, or just good old-fashioned digging (we know he's skilled at worming his way into peoples' good graces, after all) - but it seems likely that he's begun to internalise their ideas, maybe even warping his own memories of events. and two: the Delugionists themselves are, if you'll pardon the pun, pretty far off the deep end.
like... i understand why PN2 didn't go heavy on the "mass-murderer cult worship" aspect of things, in the end, but man this is such a tantalising glimpse into the wider mythos around Maligula. Gristol is proud and haughty and thinks himself above everyone else; the fact that his first reaction seeing Maligula is to throw himself to the ground at her feet says so much about the way he's come to see her. he's not just trying to bring back Maligula, his childhood bodyguard. he's trying to bring back Maligula, the High Priestess of the deluge, the semi-mythical figure whose supporters believe even death couldn't stop. he doesn't even flinch at the way she confronts him, and maybe it's because he's bought in so completely to this deified figurehead, this idea of Maligula; more a living force of nature than a person. and it all comes back to the same place: an abdication of responsibility, not just to the person who protected him when he was little but to this avatar of floods and destruction. Maligula will make everything better.
i'd write more about my thoughts on the Delugionists but that'd be taking a hard turn into speculation, and this is already kind of long and rambling so i'd better end it here. but what an unexpected and evocative line, right? it's some of the only stuff we have to go off of regarding the Delugionists as a whole, but i think it does such a good job of hinting at the wider story - at teasing another layer to the mythos surrounding Maligula, one whose ripples we see throughout the game but which never quite breaches the surface.
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Me, trying to articulate my thoughts and failing miserably: The Headcanon Post. wtf does that mean? idfk my brain farted. In all honesty, after rereading this post myself, it actually have no clear direction at all, so...
Planes #1 must take place in 2013.
This global map for the Wings Around The Globe Rally straight up says the race Dusty participates in is held in 2013. We can argue that since this is only shown in The Art of Planes (I don't remember if it is shown in the film, correct me if it is), it's a concept art and not the final product, so it may or may not be true.
If Planes took place in 2013, Planes: Fire & Rescue should take place within 2014 - 2017, for one reason and one reason only; CHoPs... and Nick, but yes CHoPs.
Meet The Planes : Fire & Rescue specifically mentioned CHoPs, the World of Cars-ified TV show CHiPs, was created in 1977, just like the irl show. Additionally, it was also mentioned that Nick became "America's favorite helicopter cop" by 1978.
CHoPs ran for 139 episodes, as offhandedly mentioned by Dipper, just like CHiPs. And since it have the same amount of episodes, we can assume CHoPs also ended in 1983, like CHiPs.
So, CHoPs ends in 1983, after Nick had his fatal stunt accident.
Nick was 36 when he died. We can argue that because the other pictures on the Wall of Heroes was replaced or edited in the final cut of the film, (I've made a post about this), it would mean this is just the concept art. So we can't really rely heavily on this. But the film doesn't give us any clear shot of this specific newspaper clipping, so I'm more inclined to believe this is still true in-universe. (If anyone want to try reading that news clip, be my guest. I don't have the brain power enough to try reading all that blurs.)
There's other post discussing about this; in the film proper, there's six tally marks beside Nick's picture, and I'm also convinced that the tally was made in increment of five. So, every five years a new tally was added beside Nick's.
So, six tally marks = 30 years, and 30 - 34 years after 1983 would be 2013 - 2017. (If it's 2018, there would be seven tally marks, since 35 years would've already passed.)
Which means, doesn't matter what specific year it is, if Nick was still alive he'd be at least 67 (if F&R is 2014) and at most 70 (if F&R is 2017).
Blade should be younger than Nick. Just because Blade is bigger doesn't mean he's the older one.
The closest helicopter model to Nick that I could find is the MD 500 series (specifically MD 500E), and the development of that model series can be traced back to early 1960s. (We can argue that MD 500E specifically was released in 1982 if I have my facts right, but Nick grew his popularity in 1978, with his CHoPs breakthrough role. So, how old the basis model is doesn't always dictates how old the character is, which would make this entire thing moot so why am I still yapping.)
The helicopter models listed as inspirations for Blade's fictional model, as listed on the P:F&R Wikipedia page, are the Agustawestland AW109, Agustawestland AW139, and Bell 429 GlobalRanger (I will make a post on why I think so too). And the oldest model of the three is the AW109, which starts development during the late 1960s.
All of this just to say that Blade is somewhere in his early to mid 60s by the time of Fire & Rescue. Which means...
huh. Well... this has been a waste of my time. This is what happened when a mf doesn't check the facts first! I'm hitting post anyway. Is this is sunk cost fallacy? YES.
I still think Blade is the younger one of the two tho. I don't know. I just think he is, and therefore, he just is. Did I make any sense? I don't think I made any sense, and I'm the one who wrote this entire damn thing!
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