#me and all my homies hate eurylochus

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Y’all I have so many feelings about Epic: the musical. Hatred for multiple characters is a big one!

Obviously, like any other sane individual I despise Calypso and Antinuous. If you don’t, you’re objectively wrong, I don’t make the rules.

I do however have very complicated feelings about Eurylochus. On one hand I understand the he’s only human and I get the doubt of Odysseus, especially later on, but on the other hand- bro was so dumb and hypocritical and it genuinely makes me so angry lmao. He expects perfection from his captain but then immediately turns around and goes against the orders he’s given and makes the exact same or worse mistakes of his own. And him blaming Odysseus for polities death in luck runs out will forever ruin him for me.

And don’t forget Eurylochus was second in command! He was also responsible for the crew, and literally everything he does harms that cause! He sows doubt and blame towards the captain and openly blames him the deaths of their men, deaths that literally could not have been avoided! He blames Odysseus for not being omnipotent and knowing exactly how to do everything perfectly. He was not only hypocritical and didn’t think anything through, but he also immediately got the crew killed every time he made a decision of his own. Opening the windbag against orders? Get ready for Poseidon to kill hundreds of your comrades! Killing the cows even though Odysseus begged you not to? Zeus’ turn for some carnage! He was at least partially responsible for every problem as second in command, as he said himself “if you want all the power you must carry all the blame.” By his own logic his position would make him partially to blame. And then to expect Odysseus to take the blame?? Especially when the thing Zeus is threatening them over was directly his fault this time? Lmao absolutely not. The arrogance is astounding!

Also people who get upset at Odysseus choosing himself in thunder bringer make me laugh cause really how many of us would choose differently? His crew mutinied against him, stabbed him, knocked him out, and went directly against what he asked of them. Literally immediately once he was not longer in charge they committed a crime against the god of the sun that he begged them not to do, why would he sacrifice himself for their error when he literally warned them? Especially when they don’t seem to know at all what they’re doing and would most likely get themselves killed anyway lmao.

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...since everyone said their opinion about Eury I feel in need to do so as well cause why not 🥔

Okay so, starting from the fact that I am mostly basing myself on Eurylochus from EPIC: The Musical because I still didn't read the Odyssey (I know about it and I already knew the whole story before listening to EPIC, but I didn't read it as a whole thing, and I didn't even remember Eury's existence before EPIC so yeah-), although I plan on doing so.

So, let's take the first thing he is most hated upon, the wind bag thing.

Now, I think this manz deserves a round of applause for being the only one in 500something men to *actually question* Odysseus' actions, because usually my homie just gives out orders and the others simply follow through without saying a thing.

But Eury's biggest flaw is that he does protest and shares his own opinion, but he.. doesn't really propose another option.

Odysseus and his crew are stuck in a storm that has a high chance to murder them. So Ody, as the captain, needs to think through a plan and he needs to do it fast. He sees da giant ass island in the sky, and as his only way to get out of the situation, he comes up with using the harpoons to cling to it and climb up, thinking it's the home of the windgod itself.

And... Honestly, if I had to to describe 'Luck Runs out' in one phrase, I think it would be 'Uuuhhh dude are you sure we're not gonna fuck up with this one-'

But thing is, he is only *doubting*, without actually looking for a solution. On one hand, he is doing a good thing, making Odysseus more emphatic about his crew and being like "Fine. Do what you want. But our lives are in your hands. You think it's a good idea? Fuck it. Do it. But if we die, it's on you. Because *YOU*'re the captain."

..... Which is very badass of him (I love Eury 🥰)

But on the other hand (other than the fact that it's SO NOT A GOOD IDEA to discuss these topics in front of 500something men that have gone through hell and are literally doubting everything now and would probably be ready to kill eachother if they began doubting Ody himself) he is just putting doubts on doubts without actually thinking of another solution, honestly, if I was Odysseus I would've answered to Eurylochus with something like "Okay. Tell me another plan then. Because there aren't many other options."

....... So yeah.

.......... There is no apologise for him opening the windbag. I mean, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, I like to think that none of us really know how that specific scene went (THAT IS IF YOU ONLY LISTENED/SAW EPIC, MAYBE IN THE ODYSSEY THERE'S THE EXACT SCENE IDK 😭), and that his trust issues brought him to going again his very own "brother".

But you can feel how he slowly breaks throughout the musical, I like to think that what he did was an 'instant regret' kind of thing.

Imagine how guilty he must've felt during all that time, thinking about a way on how to tell Odysseus about it.

Again, I am *not* defending him. He should've have opened the windbag.

Just.. I guess I understand where he comes from and why he did what he did, even if he was full on wrong on some decisions he took.

.......... Okay I'm done yapping thanks for reading 😃

What do y'all think? You wanna start some big ass conference in the comment section or-

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Y’all I have so many feelings about Epic: the musical. Hatred for multiple characters is a big one!

Obviously, like any other sane individual I despise Calypso and Antinuous. If you don’t, you’re objectively wrong, I don’t make the rules.

I do however have very complicated feelings about Eurylochus. On one hand I understand the he’s only human and I get the doubt of Odysseus, especially later on, but on the other hand- bro was so dumb and hypocritical and it genuinely makes me so angry lmao. He expects perfection from his captain but then immediately turns around and goes against the orders he’s given and makes the exact same or worse mistakes of his own. And him blaming Odysseus for polities death in luck runs out will forever ruin him for me.

And don’t forget Eurylochus was second in command! He was also responsible for the crew, and literally everything he does harms that cause! He sows doubt and blame towards the captain and openly blames him the deaths of their men, deaths that literally could not have been avoided! He blames Odysseus for not being omnipotent and knowing exactly how to do everything perfectly. He was not only hypocritical and didn’t think anything through, but he also immediately got the crew killed every time he made a decision of his own. Opening the windbag against orders? Get ready for Poseidon to kill hundreds of your comrades! Killing the cows even though Odysseus begged you not to? Zeus’ turn for some carnage! He was at least partially responsible for every problem as second in command, as he said himself “if you want all the power you must carry all the blame.” By his own logic his position would make him partially to blame. And then to expect Odysseus to take the blame?? Especially when the thing Zeus is threatening them over was directly his fault this time? Lmao absolutely not. The arrogance is astounding!

Also people who get upset at Odysseus choosing himself in thunder bringer make me laugh cause really how many of us would choose differently? His crew mutinied against him, stabbed him, knocked him out, and went directly against what he asked of them. Literally immediately once he was not longer in charge they committed a crime against the god of the sun that he begged them not to do, why would he sacrifice himself for their error when he literally warned them? Especially when they don’t seem to know at all what they’re doing and would most likely get themselves killed anyway lmao.