#mcr4

[thankyouforthev3n0m]

he’s actually a professional.

[theuniversals]

incredible to think that when the previous mcr album was announced i’d only just joined tumblr. i was 14. i’m now 28. half of my life passed in between mcr4 and mcr5.

[screamingreek]

Motorhead - No Sleep 'til Hammersmith (Cassette) 1981

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[immortalsapphics]

today in kepa acts out my chem albums all night, i am listening to danger days and being a badass and carefree killjoy

[yourmomslawnflamingo]

Plot twist, I was inconsolable the second I saw the cape

A list of MCR songs not in the Big Four albums that will make me inconsolable if they play live :

Any Queen cover

Any Frank Sinatra cover

Ambulance

A Master of Puppets cover

A carry on my wayward son cover

Literally anything

[greenlikethesea]

so unfortunately ya boi has full fledged fucking brainworms about mcr, which you can tell by my, uh, everything about me --

and with all this sudden interest in goncharov (so much so that it’s getting a theatrical rerelease, which is fully fucking insane btw), i can’t help but think about that 2009 print interview with gerard that he did for this now defunct european music blog that we’ve all collectively forgotten about

he’s clearly dodging talking about mcr4, which had sort of been in development hell due to most of the guys becoming dads and the bob bryar of it all, and so he goes on this. like. really intense tear about this mafia movie phase he went through in art school. how he had mikey torrent all these fucking organized crime movies from around the world (and like, was this before or after the feds came to donna’s house, g? the people want answers.). like, non-english subtitles for the foreign titles, just fully coasting on vibes. peak mx. gerard way esq. shit.

and they kept namedropping this one martin scorcese film called goncharov with this reverence (like, showing through the text and everything, even with the writer trying to maintain journalistic integrity -- couldn’t be me) that we’ve only really heard for morrissey and, like, grant morrisson, and i’m fairly certain that gerard does not want to fuck martin scorcese. (jury’s out on the character of goncharov, but it’s young bobby d, can you blame him? i mean really.) fully going on about how he watched that one on repeat, has a poster of the movie in his home office of his then new california ranch, between his and lindsey’s desks -- she loves the movie too, referenced it on one of their first dates.

for some reason this is what made it to print? this passionate phd defense of this obscure film about russian mafia members that was set in italy for some reason. it had absolutely nothing to do with music or the rest of gerard’s vibe. anyway i just think it’s neat.

@friendship-switchblades i feel like you were talking about this the other day but i could fully be thinking about something else -- any insights?

[valleysofechoes]

So, in today's chapter of Case decides to talk about MCR history, I’m going to talk about MCR4. And then I'm going to say something that may be unpopular: we need to talk about Bob.

I keep seeing some things floating around that are making me think thoughts. So I’m going to do this in two parts: 1) Conventional Weapons->Danger Days and 2) The Break-Up vs The Cancelling. 

1) MCR4: A Saga. The thing about MCR4 is that it's an album that was dangerously close to not happening. Touring The Black Parade, the media narrative around MCR, and life in general had the members of MCR actually pretty unwell, disenchanted with the band, and not touching the thought of recording another album anytime soon. When they finally stopped touring The Black Parade (a significant amount of time after figuratively killing their Black Parade alteregos), they took the first actual break they ever took as a band. They weren't touring or writing- which, honestly, they really, really, desperately needed. The question was, was a break going to be enough? (Thankfully for us, the answer was yes- but with some caveats). 

When MCR did go back to each other (because they liked making music together, and the creations they could only make together), they talked about how they were going to proceed. And, apparently, how they were going to proceed was to go forth as a rock band, but specifically as the anti-Black Parade. They wrote themselves a set of rules, among which were: no concept, no costumes, no ‘pretentious’ song titles, no exuberant layering, no pageantry... So starts the sessions for what we'd come to know as Conventional Weapons. MCR worked on MCR4 for a long time. They wrote a lot of songs (Mikey claims up to 30). They started doing media promo for it (there was excitement- it was the most rock and punk album MCR had ever made, and it was going to blow our minds!). They started introducing songs during shows they started to play again (fans and critics liked them). They literally had an album (it was going to be called Save Yourself, I’ll Hold Them Back)... except they couldn’t figure out a tracklist, they couldn’t arrange the album, they couldn’t accept that they had an album. They had music... but it wasn’t enough.

So Gerard took a break from trying to turn ~30 non-conceptual, disconnected songs that he couldn’t imagine a single visualization for into an album, took a trip to the desert, was reminded that his connection to music has always also included an element of art, and realized that, in trying to give themselves a set of rules and not do to themselves what they’d done before, they’d stopped themselves from being MCR. Some bands can make non-conceptual, non-connected albums; MCR couldn’t. And Gerard took that revelation, an album concept, and a song back to the band.

(Imagine this: you’re in a band, you’ve made several albums together, toured together, lived,breathed,bled together, took a break from each other and come back to each other, started working together again but with rules you all contributed and agreed to, and created at least an album’s worth of songs within those rules... and now your lead singer has said you’re scrapping the album, you’re starting over but actually you’re going to do everything you all agreed you wouldn’t do...)

I cannot imagine how that initial conversation went. I do imagine it was more than one conversation. I am in awe that apparently Ray, Frank, and Mikey managed to handle it with eventual grace and then actual enthusiasm. I am thrilled it gave us Danger Days. I am absolutely unsurprised Bob likely had a meltdown over it.

Conventional Weapons into Danger Days was messy. It wasn’t a smooth ‘scrap everything and start over.’ Songs that made it over from the Conventional Weapons sessions: Bulletproof Heart, The Only Hope for Me, Party Poison, and Save Yourself, I’ll Hold Them Back. Elements of the Conventional Weapons songs popped up in entirely new songs, as in Make Room!!!!’s “everybody wants to change the world...” popping up in Na Na Na. More Conventional Weapons content would appear on The Mad Gear and Missile Kid EP. Some of it actually did disappear forever. Much of the music they had wasn’t bad though... again, it just wasn’t enough. Conventional Weapons wasn’t thematically tight enough, and they were trying so hard not to have a concept that everything about it stayed too vague. But parts of it were worth working on. And the concept of the Killjoys made it worth working on for most of them.

2) What About Bob?

I see a lot of confusion about what in the world happened with Bob. Was he kicked out of the band because he was a shitty person? Was it because he was mean to Mikey? Honestly: no. The only answer MCR has ever given is ‘creative differences.’ Realistically, Bob did not take the scrapping of Conventional Weapons well, and he didn’t last for the transition into Danger Days. It really can be that simple.

The rest of that things that people cite as the reason Bob left MCR: not actually the reason why MCR/Bob broke up. They’re the reason MCR fandom/Bob broke up (The Cancelling). Way Back in Ancient Times (ie- 2010), when Frank announced that Bob had left MCR, MCR fandom was actually really upset about it. They were really attached to Bob. He didn’t write until The Black Parade, but he was the visible drummer when MCR toured, promo’d, made videos during Revenge. Some fans didn’t know Otter existed. What fans thought they knew about Bob was that MCR/Bob loved each other, Bob had set himself on fire to record a video for them, and Bob was physically having trouble drumming due to wrist issues, but had had surgery to correct it while MCR took that nice, long (for fans: horrible, agonizing) break. When the announcement happened, fans were dismayed- some thought the reason Bob left was because he physically couldn’t drum anymore. There was drama about it.

So what’s the rest of that about? Why do we hate him now? ~3 years after Bob’s break-up with MCR, something was happening. MCR was releasing a compilation album: 10 songs over 5 months (Oct 2012-Feb 2013), from the Conventional Weapons sessions. And then, Jan 2013, a scandal! Mikeyway drama was happening on the internet. Pictures of Mikeyway with a girlfriend (not his wife), a family breakfast with the girlfriend, etc. MCR fandom was livid with Mikey. Bob posts a tweet (two symbols: a family, an egg in a frying pan). MCR fandom was entertained. Bob didn’t stop. It got less funny, but no one was actually mad about it until he replied with “family breakfast” to a tweet Mikey made about sobriety. The not stopping and directing got weird. Then, Mar 2013: the actual MCR break-up. Bob was overjoyed. MCR fandom was heartbroken, and no longer generally inclined to let Bob’s shitty twitter and instagram behavior slide. Bob was cancelled by the fandom, but it happened years after he left the band, ironically just around the time the band actually ended, and he spent years digging himself a deeper and deeper hole with inexcusable posts on his public twitter and instagram. But the timeline of that?: way less simple than Bob getting kicked out of the band for the same reasons we hate him now. He took the good-will we had left for him and wasted it.

[3fates]

did we ever find out what happened to bob? 👀

as far as i’m aware bob wanted to play conventional weapons songs for mcr4 but the rest of the band wanted to do danger days so it was literally just creative differences that got, well, nasty.... and then bob turned out to be a big racist turd (his pfp was him in blackface for ages, idk if he’s changed it now) who shouldn’t be allowed on twitter (family breakfast fiasco) so there was no love lost

[thankyouforthev3n0m]

AYYYY MY DANGER DAYS CD JUST CAME IN THE MAIL!!!!

[kymhapp]

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[screamingreek]

Motorhead - Another Perfect Day (Cassette) 1983

FOR SALE! FIND THIS ITEM & MORE AT screaming-greek.com or check out the link in my bio. Motorhead - Another Perfect Day - Tested - Pre-Owned Cassette - Black Paper Labels - Bronze Records / Mercury – MCR4-1-4077 - 1983 Read the full article

[immortalsapphics]

okay but danger days SLAPS

listening to it for the first time in a few months and WOW

[valleysofechoes]

my hot take on mcr4: if i was in a band and we’d recorded an entire album, but then my lead singer took a trip into the desert and came back with an entirely new vision, i don’t think i’d’ve been cool about it actually. if i got told, yeah, we're losing Boy Division and Kiss the Ring and Burn Bright and then they came at me with SING, maybe i too would've had a creative differences meltdown 🙃

[panicatthediscord]

(MCR-related) Question:

anyone else wonder what bob would say in the beginning of 'Vampire Money' if at that time he was still in the band... ?