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whywoulditho · 5 months ago
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i was doing a rewatch of nickelodeon's victorious and there's about twenty thousand things wrong with that show but one thing that really struck me was the character of jade and how she's the shallowest representation of an 'alt girl'. and this is definitely an issue that mainstream media is still suffering from but it's like at that time they had absolutely no idea how to write a goth girl. i can assure you it is so much worse than you remember.
i don't think they were going for a specific subculture when they picked out her outfits, they kind of just threw a bunch of styles together to create 'some sort of an alt girl'. her outfits looked like a softer/more casual version of trad goth, i think. since she would be wearing them to school or in her daily life i think the outfits were fine. but they failed with her personality SO BAD.
because tell me why this "goth girl" was a loud transphobe and a misogynist. this girl insulted other people's looks, their weight, their outfits ALL THE TIME. she made fun of "manly looking girls" and i know robbie possibly being a trans boy was a laughing stock for the whole show but it was still so weird seeing jade, with her red doc martens and fishnet stockings and a hairdye that would send conservatives into the grave even today, make jokes about it.
i get that this show is from 2013 and on nickelodeon so they couldn't be *gasp* queer allies BUT even for that time, her being misogynistic is fucking ridiculous... she would call girls ugly back and forth, she would make everyone feel bad about everything about themselves for fun. that wasn't something tori or cat or even trina would do, only jade because she was "an angry person". not to mention they painted her to be this dangerous, violent person that would threaten to harm people if they so much as looked at her wrong.
and the thing is, gothics are angry people. but their anger is towards inequality, patriarchy, fast fashion/consumerism, corrupt governments. hollywood looks at these kind of subcultures in the most surface level way possible, they focus on the part that they're angry people, and never stop to ask what they're angry about.
and this is NOT just lazy writing. because if you want to depoliticize the youth you start by making up rumors about the politicized youth. you push this literal propaganda in mainstream media until the vast majority of your country is convinced that hippies are junkies, punks are violent, goths are scary. alt people are weird and angry and dangerous. you make jokes about it, you use their names like an insult, and if you do it well and for long enough, no one will take them seriously anymore. no one will stop to ask alt people what they believe in and what they stand against. they'll just see them as soft kids looking for attention.
so we end up with characters like jade west, who could only have two effects on society, both of them in favor of a corrupt government looking to depoliticize people. 1) she would make goth/alt people seem too angry and violent so parents would be cautious of them and never take them seriously, 2) she would take all the political and philosophical aspects out of this subculture so the next generation of girls would just buy goth clothes from hot topic and never understand what the subculture actually stands for.
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bungouchronicles · 1 year ago
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are you a minor?
who are your bsd kinnies?
when did you get into tumblr?
what's your fave bsd take?
what's one bsd thing (character/opinion/etc) that u think should be talked about more?
fave animal?
how do u make friends (i need help 😭).
do u play an instrument
share thoughts/reviews abt bsd
jus answer the ones ur comfy answering 💖
Hiii!!
Woah this is my first ask, thank you <3 Let's see!
1. I'm not comfortable with sharing my age on the internet so I won't, sorry.
2. Atsushi is my highest kin but I also kin Ranpo and Dazai (don't ask how/j)
I also happen to get Nikolai on a lot of "what character are you?" quizzes and I always relate to him on those "analysing kinnies" things but I refuse to admit that to myself yet 😋
3. I don't remember tbh, I started out on another account but I'm too lazy to look up how old that account is. I think I first joined Tumblr like 2-3 years ago?
4. Ahh I don't know! I have a lot of takes but I can't seem to remember any of them right now haha. I'll get back to this someday.
5. Okay I'll have to make a seperate post about this someday but probably how soukoku is (or at least was) what the other one wished they could be. I love their parallels about how they view humanity which I think already is pretty talked about but yk, you can always talk more about it!
I also think we as a fandom should talk more about Yosano in general, she's very dear to me <3
Oh and Bram! I wanna know more about him and his daughter. He's so silly, how could we not talk about him??
Also I adore the religious symbolism in bsd, we should all talk more about that!
I also think we should talk more about Oda outside of of the impact he had on Dazai. I adore Oda and Dazais story but Oda is really cool regardless of that. I almost never see anyone mention his own story and his motives? He's so cool!!
6. Car :3
7. I just kinda say things and hope someone likes me and that has worked out so far.
No but like, when it comes to making friends irl the best advice I can give you is to surround yourself with like-minded people (like join a group with a shared interest or something) and don't be afraid to be bold. I can assure you, most people want friends and will only be relieved if you offer them your friendship yourself. I recently made a friend when we were having a conversation and she complained about how she didn't have many friends and I just said "hey, we can be friends!" And that was that. She happily agreed and we have been friends ever since. 😊 Obviously this just works if the people you talk too are good people but you shouldn't bother trying to make friends with people that aren't. Hope this helps <3
8. I sing and play some piano, music is my everything though so I'm hoping to both get better at piano and maybe pick up guitar again
9. I'm so normal about this show. Uhm...let's see:
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Thoroughly enjoyed. Very well written and has been able to keep me invested for far too long now. The fixation never goes away. Help me, Asagiri is keeping me hostage in this fandom!
This was fun, feel free to send my any other asks in the future <3
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